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RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

All physical no mental. His head is all over the place and his play reflects it, IMO.
I own him in two leagues. The above is absolutely accurate. Great example that all the physical prowess in the world won't compensate for lack of brain power at the WR position.
I'm not sure I agree with this. I think it is a physical problem in that he isn't getting the same separation in camp as the guys in front of him. That seems to be the consensus from the people following Vikings camp. And this is just my personal opinion, but I thought he looked very awkward catching that TD the other night. The route itself was beautiful, but the way he came down with the ball just didn't look like a smooth or natural motion. I'm holding him through the preseason to see if maybe he catches lightning in a bottle

 
Huge red flag that he didn't take his coach up on the extra help this summer. So dumb and speaks volumes. That tells me in Patterson's mind he doesn't need fixing.

 
Never, ever been so wrong about a player's potential.

I'm sorry... maybe some of you wont agree... This guy is 10x the bum Trich is/was.

 
They did a fake jet sweep to Patterson while Peterson was in the game. Maybe they will actually give it to him next time.

They also set up a quick screen for Patterson but the blocking never really got out there and he was tackled right away.

 
Soulfly3 said:
Never, ever been so wrong about a player's potential.

I'm sorry... maybe some of you wont agree... This guy is 10x the bum Trich is/was.
He's a bum. I never thought he would amount to anything, ever. Made an entire post about him and Harvin last season before Harvin got traded. They are track stars that put a few pounds on and look good in cleats. He is a less talented Ted Ginn. At least T-Rich had an okay rookie year, Patterson hasn't had anything.

 
He has the same problem that a few other former-college-star WRs have: in order to stay focused and motivated, he needs to get fed the ball and be involved on most plays. This is why he sometimes runs great routes and flashes amazing potential, only to lose focus after he had been on the bench or asked to block for 10 minutes. The brain power and discipline is just not there for a more mature, professional behavior. The same de-motivation probably also translates into the poor practice habits we hear about ("Why do I bother, they don't give me the ball enough anyway") and all the other things we don't see as clearly ("I got myself a route-running coach over the summer, but then decided not to bother")

I don't think most of this is fixable, although, in theory, some clever coach + the inevitable advent of age might turn him around. His fifth-year option got picked up, but he is nowhere near worth the money, so he would most likely get cut. Someone will take a flier (Cleveland? Kansas? Oakland? Dallas?) with the intention of using him in a much more dynamic, Percy-esque role that doesn't require precise route-running. From that perspective, Zimmer's Vikings are a terrible fit and you know Zimmer won't change his views of how a WR should play, but another coach might be more flexible.

That still doesn't solve the above problem, but if your bench is deep enough, he could be solid value in 2016. It's not like he is worth much today; I have him in one league that rewards rushing yards a bit more and I keep getting offers for a 3rd rounder + rejections for a 2nd rounder.

 
Anything new to report here?
Vikings' Zimmer pins Hill interception on Cordarrelle Patterson

Zimmer asked if Patterson ran the wrong route on Shaun Hill's INT "Probably, if you were a betting man." #Vikings
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This is hilarious!! Zimmer clearly couldn't care less for the guy - I wonder if they are not looking to trade him for a conditional late pick to some WR-needy team.

But - again - Zimmer should know better than to rely on Patterson to run a precise route tree.....what are the chances of that happening? That's the same type of irrational stubbornness that lends itself to the conclusion that RG3 would become a pocket passer overnight.

 
You guys are not being fair to the coaching staff.

When Rick Spielman traded up to draft Patterson this was following the trade of Percy Harvin. He was looking for a dynamic kick return player to replace Harvin and hopeful that Patterson could develop as a receiver as well.

At the time the Vikings had Christian Ponder and Bill Musgrave who had adapted Darrel Bevels run heavy west coast offense.

The Vikings signed Greg Jennings after they were not able to sign Mike Wallace. Jennings fits the WCO and played the Z WR for the Vikings, which is the same position that Harvin played. Jarius Wright also plays the Z WR. The only X WR the Vikings had at this time was Jerome Simpson. So they had Patterson try to learn the X WR position, even though his skill set is in my opinion a better fit for the Z. It makes sense that the Vikings had so many Z type WR because of the WCO offense they were running.

All of this happened prior to Mike Zimmer and Norv Turner being hired. Norv Turner has a completely different offensive system derived from Don Coryell. Even Greg Jennings did not fit well in Norvs offense. They also tried to develop Patterson as an X WR. That did not work out so eventually Charles Johnson took over that position.

I think it is a good sign that the Vikings have been using Patterson more as a Z WR which is a better fit for his skill set. However he has Mike Wallace and Jarius Wright ahead of him on the depth chart at that position. Wright recently signed a new 4 year deal with the Vikings, so he is not likely going anywhere. Mike Wallace's future with the team remains to be seen. Depends on how well he performs this season.

I consider it a step forward that Patterson is playing the Z more now than he was previously.

 
Never, ever been so wrong about a player's potential.

I'm sorry... maybe some of you wont agree... This guy is 10x the bum Trich is/was.
Huge bust but not even on the same planet as far as being as much of a bum as Richardson was.

Patterson was bad for 10 games and they called it a day.

Richardson was all-time historically bad with opportunity after opportunity for nearly 50 games. Richardson has the second worst YPC in NFL history. Even worse, he did that with the majority of those games coming on a team that was top 5 in the NFL in YPC when RBs other than Richardson got the ball, and THOSE guys were so good that the following years one ended up as a 3rd stringer and the other an un-signed free agent.

No one is the bum that Trich was. No one.

 
Very good post.

Still, right now his dynasty value is almost 100% tied to the expectation that his fifth-year option gets canceled and he switches to a more friendly system in the offseason. If he stays with Norv and the Vikings, I can't imagine a best case better than being a spot start on a few random weeks.

 
2 offensive snaps, 1 catch, 1 yard, 1 KR for 21 yards.

$7.221M with 5.831 guaranteed. His base next year is $1,009,689 with an additional $380K for roster and workout bonuses. He's probably hoping he never sees that, would be best for everyone to just move on.

 
2 offensive snaps, 1 catch, 1 yard, 1 KR for 21 yards.

$7.221M with 5.831 guaranteed. His base next year is $1,009,689 with an additional $380K for roster and workout bonuses. He's probably hoping he never sees that, would be best for everyone to just move on.
Not for him. He's getting paid first round dollars to return a couple kicks per week. Sweet gig.

 
Patterson had 14 offensive snaps in week 3 against the Chargers.

He played in 3TE or 2TE 1FB sets that only have one WR on the field.

This used to be an assignment that Charles Johnson was playing in exclusively, but this week Patterson got that job. He must be blocking well or they would not have him in there. Patterson is also a threat to run the ball out of this formation. He had one carry for nine yards in the game but no targets.

 
Yeah the Vikes offense isn't exactly lighting the league on fire. They could start kicking the tires on Patterson so to speak in the coming weeks. He's still a playmaker and the Vikes don't have many of those.

 
I am an owner in a couple leagues....it's sad that I am happy with 14 snaps as a massive improvement. This may be the right direction, but I am not holding out hope. His value is only for 2016 and beyond, depending on new team.

 
I miss this thread. Hopefully he lands on a team with a solid qb and offense next season. Not until he fails somewhere else will I completely give up on ol' CP.

 
I finally dropped him. It says something in a Keeper League that no one's picked him up after one week (we have mid-sized benches). The killer for me was when the coaching staff offered him extra help in the offseason and he turned it down.

I really like his attitude on the field and sidelines, and I hope he can turn it around. He's dynamic with the ball in his hands. I'm still keeping an eye on him.

 
After what Stefon Diggs showed in the preseason as both a returner and receiver, if Patterson doesn't break some kick returns soon, I would think he will be deactivated and Diggs activated on game days...

 
Yeah he's one step away from being out of the league. Nice job turning down the extra help this offseason Cordarrelle! Worthless I tell ya!

 
Charles Johsnon with bruised ribs may be the reason Patterson got increased snaps against the Chargers.

The Vikings did sign a WR they had during camp to the practice squad. This may mean Diggs will be active against the Broncos. Both Diggs and Patterson might be used more if Johnson and/or Wright can't play.

 
From Zimmers press conference earlier today:

Q: Do you think Cordarrelle Patterson is ready to step up if given the opportunity this Sunday?

A: I think he has an opportunity, yes.

Q: What have you seen from him? This is a new experience for him having to wait his turn to play.

A: I think he’s been doing a good job all along. He just has to go out there and do it. There may be some opportunities for him this week, we’ll see.
 
3rd passing option on an offense built around Peterson. Meh His floor is zero. He is always a threat to score a TD though. Still can't start him.

Hope he gets out of Minny. He needs a fresh start.

 
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Vikings: Injuries may clear path for Cordarrelle Patterson

With Johnson and Wright hurting last Sunday, Adam Thielen played twice as many snaps, 28-14, as Patterson.
Many of Pattersons snaps came in 2TE 1FB or 3TE sets, with Patterson being the only WR on the field. A role I had previously seen Charles Johnson playing pretty much exclusively. In 2WR sets Thielen or Wright were on the field over Patterson.

In both 2013 and 2014 Patterson struggled to get off the jam often, allowing the timing of his route to be disrupted and consequently for the QB to stop looking for him because he was not getting open early enough in his routes.

Hoping that Patterson can rise to the occasion. The Vikings need some big plays to win this game.

"It's always tough for a player sitting on the side when you're wanting to be out there playing and helping the team," he said. "But you've just got to sit back and wait, and when your time is called, you've just got to be ready."

When asked about having to prove himself, Patterson said, "I don't know how much more I need to prove."
 
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They have to give him the ball if they want him to make big plays. I don't trust Mike Zimmer. He hates Patterson. Zimmer's already gone after this year so he's just going to down with the ship.

 
Hell I hate Patterson. This offseason probably went like this.

Zimmer - Hey Cordarrelle we have some really good route runners that would love to work with you this offseason. When can we set that up?

CP- C-Patt doesn't need help with that.

Zimmer- OMG

CP- I'm going to run some stairs and get in shape. You guys just need to fix the offense.

First day of training camp CP runs wrong route.

Zimmer- OMG JFC

 
Wake me up when Patterson lands on a team with coaches who can design plays to get the ball in his hands in space instead of coaches who throw him under the bus to the media when he doesn't have the route running skills of a prototypical receiver to fit their rigid playbook.

 
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Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.

 
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Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.

Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.

Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.
Players get drafted based on NFL potential and what teams think they can become. Not everyone lives up to that for various reasons. Patterson's problem is that he continually tries to get by on athletism. He has the potential to be a WR1 if he would ever work on his craft. He struggles getting off the line, never seems to put himself the right spot and just isn't developing.

I'm sure Minn drafted him hoping these things would change, but they haven't. Could they use him more creatively? Of course. In the grand scheme of things though, teams aren't going to go out of their way to support gadget players.

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.
Players get drafted based on NFL potential and what teams think they can become. Not everyone lives up to that for various reasons. Patterson's problem is that he continually tries to get by on athletism. He has the potential to be a WR1 if he would ever work on his craft. He struggles getting off the line, never seems to put himself the right spot and just isn't developing.

I'm sure Minn drafted him hoping these things would change, but they haven't. Could they use him more creatively? Of course. In the grand scheme of things though, teams aren't going to go out of their way to support gadget players.
But exactly about Patterson gave the Vikings any indication that he did anything but get by on his athleticism? If he never worked on route running in college what led them to believe they could change him into a player that would work on those things?

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.
Players get drafted based on NFL potential and what teams think they can become. Not everyone lives up to that for various reasons. Patterson's problem is that he continually tries to get by on athletism. He has the potential to be a WR1 if he would ever work on his craft. He struggles getting off the line, never seems to put himself the right spot and just isn't developing.

I'm sure Minn drafted him hoping these things would change, but they haven't. Could they use him more creatively? Of course. In the grand scheme of things though, teams aren't going to go out of their way to support gadget players.
I agree but this offense is bad bro. They could be panicking at this point and as a, kind of swing for the fences, they may start force feeding Patterson.

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.
Players get drafted based on NFL potential and what teams think they can become. Not everyone lives up to that for various reasons. Patterson's problem is that he continually tries to get by on athletism. He has the potential to be a WR1 if he would ever work on his craft. He struggles getting off the line, never seems to put himself the right spot and just isn't developing.

I'm sure Minn drafted him hoping these things would change, but they haven't. Could they use him more creatively? Of course. In the grand scheme of things though, teams aren't going to go out of their way to support gadget players.
But exactly about Patterson gave the Vikings any indication that he did anything but get by on his athleticism? If he never worked on route running in college what led them to believe they could change him into a player that would work on those things?
I agree Patterson was raw coming into the NFL but players get older and mature. To this point Patterson has shown very little maturity and no signs of him starting to either.

 
Why do teams draft players with skill sets that do not fit their schemes?

Look at the wasted St Louis pick on Tavon Austin for example. Really, you waste a first rounder on a gadget player?

So you draft Patterson knowing full well what his skill set is and then you get pissed when he doesn't demonstrates skills in facets of the game that he never demonstrated skill in to begin with.
Patterson was drafted by the coaching staff who was there before Zimmer and Norv got there. That's why he got most of his usage in his rookie year and hasn't got of anything since.Tavon isn't in the same zip code as Patterson in terms of how electric they are with ball in their hands.
Not really the point. You addressed it with Patterson but players like Austin or Patterson are drafted because of skill whether that skill can even be used in a scheme seems forgotten on draft day.

Kind of like buying a Porsche and then you get home and you realize the family doesn't fit in it.
Ah gotcha. Yeah you're right. I think maybe with Tavon specifically he's just not as good as the coaching staff thought he would be for what he was brought in to do.

 

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