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RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Free Agent (3 Viewers)

Patterson: "Hey guys, I'm really, really good at doing X."

Zimmer/Norv: "That's cool, but in our system we need all the receivers to do Y."

Patterson: "Yeah but I'm really good at X and currently suck at Y. Like I can literally and singlehandedly win us games if I'm allowed to do X."

Zimmer/Norv: "Cool story bro. Learn to do Y. Here's a guy to help you learn Y."

Patterson: "FFFFuuuuuuuu"

 
Patterson was drafted to fill Percy Harvin's role. They tried to use Patterson in a similar role. Problem is, Patterson is just not nearly as good.

 
Patterson was drafted to fill Percy Harvin's role. They tried to use Patterson in a similar role. Problem is, Patterson is just not nearly as good.
Agree with first part, not the last. At similar points in their career I think he was every bit as good as Percy but I do think Harvin has improved over the years in that category and is a better route runner now then when he was a Viking.

It's why I was high on Patterson coming in despite knowing how raw he was because he was being drafted by a team that had a blueprint how to use him and as we saw on his rookie season that bluerpint was starting to work.

Patterson did not become a worse player from year one going forward, the blueprint just left the building. I think it's a major mistake by the Vikings coaching staff that they don't care to try and manufacture touches for Patterson, like the old staff did for him and Harvin, especially when the passing game has been stagnant this year and the running game last year. Norv has his approach and manufacturing touches for an inconsistent route runner is not somethign he cares to do. Norv knows more than me but I think it's a failure on his part not involving him a little more. At least as much as the Rams involve Tavon which may not be enough to be a useful fantasy player but would in my opinion be of use to the Vikings offense.

I picked him up all over the place yesterday for mainly cheap bids. I've never thought Charles Johnson was very good, Wallace is a one trick poney and the passing game is struggling. Patterson is still going to make mistakes but if he can limit those errors and add some juice to the offense/passing game I think he's got a legit shot to win back a starting job or at least usable fantasy role. I would not say I'm counting on it but I'd put it in the he's got a chance category. He's got a tough matchup this weekend but really looking forward to seeing him get another shot.

 
...and here I was, thinking: "Maybe they will play him more."

How naive. He still is useless in this system. Why would anything change with injuries?

 
...and here I was, thinking: "Maybe they will play him more."

How naive. He still is useless in this system. Why would anything change with injuries?
Same here and we now know that nothing will change and he is useless in that system. So I sure hope the rumors the Vikings are shopping him and have interest has some legs to it.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?

It seems like when people own a player such as Patterson that they are willing to place blame on anything and everything besides the player himself.

If Teddy Bridgewater believed in Patterson being in the right place at the right time and doing his job, he would look for Patterson when he is on the field. He doesn't. That is not the fault of the team, the coaching staff or the QB. It is on Patterson and no one else.

Until that changes Patterson will be nothing but unrealized potential. A change of teams isn't going to be a solution.

 
He is buried on the depth chart. He has a rookie 5th rounder and undrafted 3rd year player ahead of him. It's not the system. He just doesn't look good at WR. He's a skilled runner. Get him 5 or so carries a game and I think he could do some damage. Other than that I just don't see it.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?

It seems like when people own a player such as Patterson that they are willing to place blame on anything and everything besides the player himself.

If Teddy Bridgewater believed in Patterson being in the right place at the right time and doing his job, he would look for Patterson when he is on the field. He doesn't. That is not the fault of the team, the coaching staff or the QB. It is on Patterson and no one else.

Until that changes Patterson will be nothing but unrealized potential. A change of teams isn't going to be a solution.
You're missing the whole point how Patterson should be used.

He's the definition of an offensive weapon. He's averaging 12 yards per rushing attempt on both the pro and college level and is averaging 1 TD for every 4 rushing attempts in the pros. So far he gives you a 25% chance to score when you just hand the ball off to him!

It really shouldn't be that hard to incorporate Patterson in the offense on some level. Every once in a while you could have him run an end around or fake and hand it off to AD up the gut or going the opposite way when the defense shifts and has to respect Patterson as a threat. You could have him run drag routes/bubble screens/go routes. Hell you could just line him up in the backfield when AD needs a breather like what the Rams have done with Tavon a few times this year.

I can understand that he shouldn't be the team's WR1 but to not use him at all in the game plan shows incompetence and a lack of creativity in the coaching staff.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?
I don't think you are looking at his situation correctly.

He's never going to be a good route runner. He's always going to be a bit of a gadget player. Gadget players are different breeds. They need to be treated as versatile weapons and failure to do that instead of trying to pigeonhole them into the classic receiver role is a recipe for failure for both player and team.

Let me ask you a series of questions.

Do you think Patterson regressed from his rookie season? Do you think Percy Harvin regressed from his days as a Viking? Do you think Tavon Austin suddenly figured it out?

My answer to all 3 questions is a resounding no. Patterson and Harvin both had success with Musgrave who had a plan of how to use them. Tavon is enjoying success now because he has a coordinator who has a plan on how to use him.

I believe Patterson absolutely can return to fantasy relevance but also absolutely must be treated more like the versatile weapon that he is and used in creative ways. For players like him, it's all about the coaching.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?

It seems like when people own a player such as Patterson that they are willing to place blame on anything and everything besides the player himself.

If Teddy Bridgewater believed in Patterson being in the right place at the right time and doing his job, he would look for Patterson when he is on the field. He doesn't. That is not the fault of the team, the coaching staff or the QB. It is on Patterson and no one else.

Until that changes Patterson will be nothing but unrealized potential. A change of teams isn't going to be a solution.
You're missing the whole point how Patterson should be used.

He's the definition of an offensive weapon. He's averaging 12 yards per rushing attempt on both the pro and college level and is averaging 1 TD for every 4 rushing attempts in the pros. So far he gives you a 25% chance to score when you just hand the ball off to him!

It really shouldn't be that hard to incorporate Patterson in the offense on some level. Every once in a while you could have him run an end around or fake and hand it off to AD up the gut or going the opposite way when the defense shifts and has to respect Patterson as a threat. You could have him run drag routes/bubble screens/go routes. Hell you could just line him up in the backfield when AD needs a breather like what the Rams have done with Tavon a few times this year.

I can understand that he shouldn't be the team's WR1 but to not use him at all in the game plan shows incompetence and a lack of creativity in the coaching staff.
Man we made really similar posts at about the same time.

Regarding that last line you wrote, that's dead on. Even if it was not enough to make Patterson a fantasy relevant players it's incompetent of Norv not to figure out who to make better use of him.

Take the Rams as example. They did a really creative job this past week of using Tavon to draw the defensive attention to one side and free up Gurley. It's exactly the kind of thing the Vikings should have been doing with Patterson.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?

It seems like when people own a player such as Patterson that they are willing to place blame on anything and everything besides the player himself.

If Teddy Bridgewater believed in Patterson being in the right place at the right time and doing his job, he would look for Patterson when he is on the field. He doesn't. That is not the fault of the team, the coaching staff or the QB. It is on Patterson and no one else.

Until that changes Patterson will be nothing but unrealized potential. A change of teams isn't going to be a solution.
You're missing the whole point how Patterson should be used.

He's the definition of an offensive weapon. He's averaging 12 yards per rushing attempt on both the pro and college level and is averaging 1 TD for every 4 rushing attempts in the pros. So far he gives you a 25% chance to score when you just hand the ball off to him!

It really shouldn't be that hard to incorporate Patterson in the offense on some level. Every once in a while you could have him run an end around or fake and hand it off to AD up the gut or going the opposite way when the defense shifts and has to respect Patterson as a threat. You could have him run drag routes/bubble screens/go routes. Hell you could just line him up in the backfield when AD needs a breather like what the Rams have done with Tavon a few times this year.

I can understand that he shouldn't be the team's WR1 but to not use him at all in the game plan shows incompetence and a lack of creativity in the coaching staff.
I am not missing the point of how Patterson should be used.

I recommend reading Chris Browns article on constraint plays for additional context of what we are talking about in regards to how Patterson could or should be used.

From the article:

In a given game your offense might look like it is all “constraint” plays: all gimmicks, screens, traps, draws, fakes and the like. Maybe so, if that’s what the defense deserves. But you can’t lose sight of the structure of your offense. Just because the bubbles, the flares, the fakes, and other gimmicks are your best offense for a couple of weeks doesn’t mean that it will be there. Indeed, the best defense against that kind of stuff is simply a sound one. Thus great offenses must be structure around sound, time tested core ideas, but have the flexibility to go to the “constraint plays” whenever the opportunity exists. Too often, the constraint plays are alternatively given too much and not enough weight.
Patterson is not sound enough in the normal parts of the offense for the Vikings or Bridgewater to have faith in him consistently being able to win with normal play calls because he has shown them in games as well as in practice that he is too inconsistent. He does not get to the right spot at the right time. Too often he cannot beat the jam or the way he runs his route causes him to not get open early on in the play. So the Vikings cannot expect him to be a primary weapon in the core base plays of their offense.

Surprise is an important element of a successful constraint play. If Patterson is not executing normal core plays of the Vikings offense, then the defense has less concern about defending him on those plays. They will be focusing on what Patterson can do and be more alert that the Vikings may be running a trick play with Patterson. Because of this foreknowledge it makes it less likely that the defense will be caught off guard by the trick play to Patterson which will make such a play less likely to be effective.

Jarius Wright was able to gain 17 yards on a nice reverse early on this season. He also won a game for the Vikings last season on a screen pass he took over 50 yards for a score. It is not like the Vikings do not use constraint plays. Quite the opposite. The Vikings and Bridgewater have been criticized for not being more effective with play action and how Bridgewater is not throwing as well after a play action as he does without one.

I think this is due in part because the Vikings needed to put some big runs on film again with Peterson and prove that this is a threat the defense has to respect, which in turn will make the fakes off of similar looking plays more effective for Bridgewater.

An offensive weapon as you characterize Patterson as being also means he doesn't have a defined position or role in an offense. He is a player who can catch the ball and run. He has remarkable ability to make defenders miss tackles but he is deficient in ways that makes it difficult to get him the ball in situations that set him up for success.

As for your citation of his statistics. You do realize that he has had some very big runs. Including week 1 of 2014 with Norv Turner where Patterson has over 100 yards rushing on only 3 carries. By no coincidence Adrian Peterson also played in this game which had the Rams focused on stopping the base running plays of the offense. No one had seen the play where Patterson motions into the backfield for a toss play with Asiata becoming the FB. The Vikings did give this look six to ten more times over the course of the 2014 season, but defenses were aware of it from game one and it was not nearly so effective again.

So are you saying that Norv Turner should be fitting a square peg in a round hole and keep trying to force these plays to Patterson as being the best way for the Vikings to win?

Obviously doing so would be appreciated by Patterson owners in fantasy football. However I have Norv Turner on record as saying he is trying to get the players and the team to play good football not fantasy football.

As far as it not being hard to force these plays to Patterson? Sure they could try to do this every game regardless of how effective it is. Just to get Patterson involved with the offense. However the Vikings are trying to win games and play players who can build consistency and chemistry with Teddy Bridgewater as an overall team and development goal that takes precedence over finding ways to make Patterson more helpful to the offense.

I think your criticisms of Norv Turners lack of creativity or innovation in play design of the offense are not fair when actually looking at the evidence or the big picture of what the Vikings offense is trying to accomplish. Which is to win games.

 
If Patterson is useless in the Vikings offensive system. What makes you think he will be useful in another offensive system?
I don't think you are looking at his situation correctly.

He's never going to be a good route runner. He's always going to be a bit of a gadget player. Gadget players are different breeds. They need to be treated as versatile weapons and failure to do that instead of trying to pigeonhole them into the classic receiver role is a recipe for failure for both player and team.

Let me ask you a series of questions.

Do you think Patterson regressed from his rookie season? Do you think Percy Harvin regressed from his days as a Viking? Do you think Tavon Austin suddenly figured it out?

My answer to all 3 questions is a resounding no. Patterson and Harvin both had success with Musgrave who had a plan of how to use them. Tavon is enjoying success now because he has a coordinator who has a plan on how to use him.

I believe Patterson absolutely can return to fantasy relevance but also absolutely must be treated more like the versatile weapon that he is and used in creative ways. For players like him, it's all about the coaching.
I already addressed this in my previous post. If Patterson is not a consistent weapon in the base offense then opposing defenses will never see tape of Patterson making regular plays on offense. Such as running a good slant route, or an out route, or other staples of the Vikings passing offense. Because the defense never sees Patterson executing those plays, they will focus on what the Vikings are doing with him. If that is a bunch of tricks plays, they will be more alert to those plays when Patterson is on the field and therefore those plays are less likely to have the element of surprise to make them successful.

I don't think Patterson has regressed from his first season. I think he has gotten slightly better in some areas. The Vikings did start him for about half of last season before deciding to have Charles Johnson play ahead of him instead. It is not like they did not try to make him a starter. He just didn't perform. He didn't get open. The Vikings had injuries to their offensive line last season as well and protection suffered because of that. Patterson does not get open early enough in his routes to be used as a consistent weapon and the Vikings do not have time to wait for him to maybe get open and be in the right place some times. So they give that playing time to players who can.

As far as your claim that Patterson, like Harvin can be game planned enough to become fantasy relevant players, I certainly think it is possible.

You match Patterson with a terrible QB like Ponder and no other receiving threats, maybe you get the 5 bubble screen passes to Patterson a game like Harvin was getting for a short period of time. I don't think this can be the complete basis of your offense. Defenses will adjust if this is all your offense does. Just as they did adjust to this being about the only thing the Vikings were doing besides running with Peterson. Having a HOF RB certainly helped the uniqueness of the situation as well.

I don't think this is something a team should build their offense around. Those would be the base plays. So a lack of other options becomes a requirement for there to also be volume in utilization, or the team will use the other options, that are more consistent instead.

 
In every one of his TD runs there were 7-9 guys stacked in the box and he was breaking 2-4 tackles.

Pretty sure defenses were aware of him by the end of his rookie year and he was still averaging 20+ yards per rush.

On the rams play there was 8-9 stacked in the box so yeah they were pretty aware.

Not really sure why you keep bringing up fantasy football vs. real football. Long TD runs are just as important in real football and I don't think Patterson is being rostered in any redraft leagues.

The University of Tennessee and the coaching staff before Norv/Zimmer arrived didn't seem to have problems in figuring out to use him.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how to defend a play where CP is running full speed one way and Bridgewater can either hand the ball off to him or hand the ball off to their HOF running back.

 
That is the thing is that Patterson has become less effective the longer defenses have had to study him.

Here are his game stats

Patterson was extremely effective as a kick returner in his rookie season. He also had a couple of big games. One against Green Bay and another against the Ravens. He made some amazing big plays in these games, which is what started the excitement and expectations for him. However the plays were also somewhat flukey and not something you could expect to be repeatable enough that you could count on that consistently enough to build your offense around.

Not having Peterson after the first game of 2014 did have an effect on Patterson because he became the main offensive threat. As we saw it was pretty easy for defenses to account for him and take him away.

I don't want to criticize Pattersons hands because he has pretty good catching ability. That said he only has 54.8% career catch rate even though the majority of those targets are pretty high percentage plays such as the bubble screen.

College football is not the same as pro football. There are a lot of things that can work at the college level that will not work consistently at the pro level. Miami for example took advantage of the wildcat formation and had some success with this for a period of time. Other NFL teams even copied the formation and used it with varying success. However after that first season of it being somewhat of a surprise or something new, teams adjusted to it and you do not see as many teams using it as they did in that second year after Miami had some success with it.

If you want to understand fantasy football I suggest learning more about real football.

The Vikings did utilize a lot of zone read option with Bridgewater last season. I have not noticed it much this season however. A end around to Patterson certainly is in the near future however as long as Patterson continues getting the snaps when the Vikings go to big formations with only one WR on the field. If Charles Johnson gets that assignment back once he is healthy then those opportunities will go away. I do think Patterson has improved as a blocker and I would like to see him get opportunities out of this formation.

 
Would love for him to come to Car. Car needs offensive playmakers, in any form.
That would be interesting because of Cam as a running threat that Bridgewater isn't. Not that Bridgewater isn't pretty good at scrambling.. he is, but he isn't looking to run the way that Cam does. I don't think the Panthers need him as much as a kick returner because they have Ted Ginn.

The Ravens look like they could use a WR.

 
Copy and pasting his stats isn't really proof that he's all of a sudden become ineffective. Playing time and the lack of creativity/play design from coaching staff have just as much to do with that.

The plays seem fluky but when it keeps happening over and over it becomes less fluky and more reality.

My argument is that he's an effective playmaker but the coaching staff doesn't know how to use him. Your argument is that he's currently ineffective as a playmaker because he's not well rounded enough as a receiver. Our flags are planted but there's really no way to know who's right until he goes to a different coaching staff who actively tries to use him. Until then arguing about this is just a waste of time.

 
If Patterson was making big plays over and over again as you say then the Coaches certainly would not have benched him for Charles Johnson.

Your arguments are not well developed or informed in my opinion. I hope you or someone else can benefit from the discussion and I do not consider that to be a waste of time.

 
I see valid points along both sides of this discussion and honestly that is what the shark pool is supposed to be about...

I fall more on the side of them not using him properly but I get the correlation to him not being effective enough on base plays to "fool" the defense with the occasional constraint play...

I will point out, however, that there are quite a few examples of players doing well in certain systems as opposed to other systems. One should need to look no further than CJ Anderson this yr vs last yr or heck how about Mark Clayton being a bust in Baltimore but fitting beautifully in St. Louis system a few yrs back... He was a top 10 wr in St Louis for a stretch before he blew his knee (pretty sure it was his knee). I find it interesting that Chris Givens was just traded to Baltimore from St. Louis as well... I think in a vertical offense with Flaccos arm he could flash a bit... Never a fit for short passing offense in St Louis

You see it quite often on the defensive side of the ball as well. Take Lavar Arrington for example... When forced to play sound disciplined structured football he really struggled to make an impact... When he was allowed or afforded some leniency to "go round around" he was quite effective... Troy Polamalu was another prime example... You can't let a playmaker like that die in a system where he can't let his instincts drive him to the ball... Perhaps that means players like that aren't as well rounded or overall as talented as they are "limited" to what they do best or perhaps they just benefited from being coached by people who could think outside the box.

There is another underlying factor with patterson though and it is disturbing to me as a fan of his playmaker ability... It seems he isn't committed to putting forth the work behind the scenes to improve his situation. Feels like he thinks it's always out of his control (and maybe some truth to that) but it feels like an excuse to me. I got the same feeling from what I've read about quite a few other WRs who have unbelievable talent but a 2 cent head... Funny that most of them played at Tennessee... Justin Hunter, DaRick Rogers, Denarius Moore... I'd put Josh 'smoke a bowl' Gordon in there too... I wish a lot of these super talented guys would learn to work as hard as Danario Alexander or Julian Edelman... Imagine what a never injured Danario Alexander could have done in this league!!

Anyways to sum up, I'd love to see CP get a chance elsewhere but I'm not at all convinced that he would make the most of that opportunity...

 
Yeah I would not say it could never change for Patterson. I have a very small hope that at some point the light turns on for him and he starts making plays consistently. If he does that it will lead to more opportunities. I do think it is good that Patterson has a role right now when the Vikings go with their big packages. I would expect that formation to be used quite a bit over the course of the season. I should break down how often they used that personnel group over the four games so far. I am guessing it is has been close to 20% maybe it has been less than that.. in any case being the only WR in those personnel groupings would provide Patterson with a role, a niche in the offense that he could try to build on.

As things stand right now the Vikings are not likely to want to pick up Pattersons 5th year option. A decision that will need to be made by the start of next season. So if they are not going to do that, then getting some return on investment from trading Patterson makes sense. I do not know what the demand for Patterson might be or what the price will be. Anything less than a 3rd round pick is accepting a pretty big loss on the 1st round pick they invested in him. But the market for Patterson I would guess is worse than that price. Maybe a lot worse. I think Patterson offers some value to teams in need of a kick return specialist. However even in that area Patterson hasn't been nearly as productive as he was as a returner as a rookie. Part of this is teams kicking away from him, or at least they were doing that in late 2013 and into 2014. In 2015 teams have been pretty good at kicking it out of the end zone.

If Patterson was as good as Percy Harvin there is no way he would have been benched for Charles Johnson last season. Having is a much better football player than Patterson is.

That is part of the misconception that Patterson = Harvin when Harvin is a much better football player with a solid college track record unlike Patterson who played JUCO before getting a chance to play for Tennesse for one season in 2012 before going pro. It was known at the time that he was drafted what a raw prospect he was. It is not like he was extremely productive as a receiver in 2012 with 46 catches 778 yards and 5TD.

That said Patterson is only 24 years old and if the light does come on he could be a very good player.

 
Yeah I would not say it could never change for Patterson. I have a very small hope that at some point the light turns on for him and he starts making plays consistently. If he does that it will lead to more opportunities. I do think it is good that Patterson has a role right now when the Vikings go with their big packages. I would expect that formation to be used quite a bit over the course of the season. I should break down how often they used that personnel group over the four games so far. I am guessing it is has been close to 20% maybe it has been less than that.. in any case being the only WR in those personnel groupings would provide Patterson with a role, a niche in the offense that he could try to build on.

As things stand right now the Vikings are not likely to want to pick up Pattersons 5th year option. A decision that will need to be made by the start of next season. So if they are not going to do that, then getting some return on investment from trading Patterson makes sense. I do not know what the demand for Patterson might be or what the price will be. Anything less than a 3rd round pick is accepting a pretty big loss on the 1st round pick they invested in him. But the market for Patterson I would guess is worse than that price. Maybe a lot worse. I think Patterson offers some value to teams in need of a kick return specialist. However even in that area Patterson hasn't been nearly as productive as he was as a returner as a rookie. Part of this is teams kicking away from him, or at least they were doing that in late 2013 and into 2014. In 2015 teams have been pretty good at kicking it out of the end zone.

If Patterson was as good as Percy Harvin there is no way he would have been benched for Charles Johnson last season. Having is a much better football player than Patterson is.

That is part of the misconception that Patterson = Harvin when Harvin is a much better football player with a solid college track record unlike Patterson who played JUCO before getting a chance to play for Tennesse for one season in 2012 before going pro. It was known at the time that he was drafted what a raw prospect he was. It is not like he was extremely productive as a receiver in 2012 with 46 catches 778 yards and 5TD.

That said Patterson is only 24 years old and if the light does come on he could be a very good player.
Great post! I hope he gets moved. Maybe a change of scenery will prompt him to work harder or at least fit better in some other teams system?

 
massraider said:
FunkyPlutos said:
He has to be on the trade block with Diggs blowing up. I would think he will be moved soon...
Aww yeah, did someone say "Conditional 7th rounder?"

:pickle:
The Vikings are not likely to have 6 WR active every game for the rest of the season. They did so this week because Sharrif Floyd is injured and Shamar Stephen is on IR which led to the Vikings only having 3 DT active against the Lions. Floyd may be out another week, perhaps longer depending on his injury. The Vikings want to have 4 DT active however and had a WR inactive the previous 5 weeks.

Adam Theilen does some good things on special teams as well as a receiver so I don't see him being deactivated. The Vikings do have other players who can return kicks which Patterson has not been that impressive on so far. Diggs and Wallace will be active as long as they are healthy so that leaves Charles Johnson Jarius Wright and Cordarralle Patterson as players who could be deactivated. Wright may have gotten a concussion so he might be the WR inactive against the Bears, but given his new contract and Wright being the starting slot WR I don't think he will be inactive when healthy.

So a trade might make sense for the Vikings if they could get something for Patterson or Johnson. I am not sure which might be worth more to other teams at this point.

 
massraider said:
FunkyPlutos said:
He has to be on the trade block with Diggs blowing up. I would think he will be moved soon...
Aww yeah, did someone say "Conditional 7th rounder?"

:pickle:
The Vikings are not likely to have 6 WR active every game for the rest of the season. They did so this week because Sharrif Floyd is injured and Shamar Stephen is on IR which led to the Vikings only having 3 DT active against the Lions. Floyd may be out another week, perhaps longer depending on his injury. The Vikings want to have 4 DT active however and had a WR inactive the previous 5 weeks.

Adam Theilen does some good things on special teams as well as a receiver so I don't see him being deactivated. The Vikings do have other players who can return kicks which Patterson has not been that impressive on so far. Diggs and Wallace will be active as long as they are healthy so that leaves Charles Johnson Jarius Wright and Cordarralle Patterson as players who could be deactivated. Wright may have gotten a concussion so he might be the WR inactive against the Bears, but given his new contract and Wright being the starting slot WR I don't think he will be inactive when healthy.

So a trade might make sense for the Vikings if they could get something for Patterson or Johnson. I am not sure which might be worth more to other teams at this point.
I could see Buffalo as a landing spot. Watkins is gimpy and Percy is likely going to retire.

 
massraider said:
FunkyPlutos said:
He has to be on the trade block with Diggs blowing up. I would think he will be moved soon...
Aww yeah, did someone say "Conditional 7th rounder?"

:pickle:
The Vikings are not likely to have 6 WR active every game for the rest of the season. They did so this week because Sharrif Floyd is injured and Shamar Stephen is on IR which led to the Vikings only having 3 DT active against the Lions. Floyd may be out another week, perhaps longer depending on his injury. The Vikings want to have 4 DT active however and had a WR inactive the previous 5 weeks.

Adam Theilen does some good things on special teams as well as a receiver so I don't see him being deactivated. The Vikings do have other players who can return kicks which Patterson has not been that impressive on so far. Diggs and Wallace will be active as long as they are healthy so that leaves Charles Johnson Jarius Wright and Cordarralle Patterson as players who could be deactivated. Wright may have gotten a concussion so he might be the WR inactive against the Bears, but given his new contract and Wright being the starting slot WR I don't think he will be inactive when healthy.

So a trade might make sense for the Vikings if they could get something for Patterson or Johnson. I am not sure which might be worth more to other teams at this point.
I could see Buffalo as a landing spot. Watkins is gimpy and Percy is likely going to retire.
Ugh where WRs go to die...

 
Patterson lost his role in the big sets where the Vikings only have one WR on the field to Charles Johnson.

Patterson had one snap out 72 plays in the most recent game against the Rams. He was in the slot and went in motion before the snap threatening a jet sweep but did not touch the ball.

Patterson did have one good return that put the Vikings on their 47 yard line.

 
Send him to Green Bay or Pittsburgh. Those places are like WR academies. I think he needs to be seeing carries, personally. Dumbfounded they don't simply get the ball in his hands

 
Why? He still has to be humble enough to admit his game needs work. Is he going to work on his game this offseason or is he going to chill?

 
Patterson would like to be used as a RB more

In the interview Patterson is asked if he would like to play RB more. He says "of course.. always. I always want to play a position where I can get the ball more."

Not a big deal. He is laughing at the question. I was thinking about this awhile ago, that maybe Patterson would make a better RB than a WR.
It's obvious to anyone that he needs to be used creatively like Tavon Austin. Will never be a traditional WR.

 
What was Irvin gonna do? Baby sit him and help him learn the offense? I don't think it would have got him on the field. Didn't he pass to workout with some ninja in sand?
Irvin isn't exactly the WR who comes to mind in being able to teach a young WR the fundamentals of running routes and what it takes to be a WR in the NFL. He does have familiarity with Turners system so perhaps it could have helped from that stand point, but Patterson already had Greg Jennings he could have learned from and I think Jennings was more of a technician than Irvin was. So I think it is somewhat doubtful it would have helped. It certainly would not have hurt, just don't think it would have mattered much. If Irvin was such a good teacher he would likely be a coach.

It sort of reminds me of someone who offers advice and then when the advice isn't followed says I told you so. It is still on Patterson to dedicate himself to learning his craft. He seems more interested in fashion than football.

 
(Rotoworld)Cordarrelle Patterson has spent the last three days working with quarterbacks and wide receivers coach Steve Calhoun in Orange County.

Analysis: Patterson is hoping to improve his route-running after catching just two passes in 2015. He'll also work with Teddy Bridgewater in South Florida later this offseason. Patterson seems committed but it's anyone's guess if he'll ever develop into a true wide receiver. The 24-year-old remains one of the league's better return specialists

 
Patterson did end up leading the league in yards per kick return with a 31.9 average. One of his bigger returns he fumbled on when he very likely should have scored.

The defense was giving Robert Blanton a hard time for being tackled before scoring. I can only imagine that Patterson giving up a fumble to a kicker is about as low as that sort of thing goes.

 
Considering he's still in the league, it isn't too late. 
Yeah it is to late. He was offered this help last year and turned down because he didn't feel he needed to work on his game. He can't be fixed because his ego won'won't let him work on the basics. 

 
He's got some obviously ridiculous physical skills but in the passing game you want consistency and technique.

He has the skillset of a great kick returner, which he is.  He can make things happen on a screen pass or a designed run but that makes your offense one dimensional.

If an opposing defense sees him on the field, you almost don't have to worry about him.  He's not going to catch a contested pass and coverage in the NFL is air tight.

Could only see him excel off play action.

 

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