RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Free Agent (2 Viewers)

[Biabreakable]

If the light turns on and Patterson starts running good routes he could be awesome in the Welker/Edelman slot receiver role.

Not holding my breath, but Patterson is exceptionally good at everything else. He has good hands. Just not the brightest bulb on the tree. Has struggled with his route running, being in the right place at the right time like he is supposed to be. The nuances of getting open and not wasting motion while running his routes is what has always been missing with him.

I don't expect it to happen, but if he did get 100 or so targets from Brady because he is running his routes well enough to get those opportunities the numbers would be great I think.

Should be interesting while Edelman is out to see if Patterson can actually get some love or not.

 

[Milkman]

If the light turns on and Patterson starts running good routes he could be awesome in the Welker/Edelman slot receiver role.

Not holding my breath, but Patterson is exceptionally good at everything else. He has good hands. Just not the brightest bulb on the tree. Has struggled with his route running, being in the right place at the right time like he is supposed to be. The nuances of getting open and not wasting motion while running his routes is what has always been missing with him.

I don't expect it to happen, but if he did get 100 or so targets from Brady because he is running his routes well enough to get those opportunities the numbers would be great I think.

Should be interesting while Edelman is out to see if Patterson can actually get some love or not.

I agree and think he's a great end of the bench stash.......

 

[Chaka]

Didn't the Pats did release Mitchell too?

Hmmmmm...

 

[RushHour]

So you're saying there's a chance?!

(after I finally let him go last year in dynasty)

 

[cockroach]

Minn to Oak to NE... where have I heard that before?

 

[BoltBacker]

Just not the brightest bulb on the tree. Has struggled with his route running, being in the right place at the right time like he is supposed to be. The nuances of getting open and not wasting motion while running his routes is what has always been missing with him.

If he was in a different offense with a different QB/coach I think he might have a chance to surprise, but I don't see it happening in his current circumstance. There are some QB's that love to chuck the ball down field and some coaches that will just call downfield plays to keep the defense honest(Cam/Norv comes to mind) but I don't think this is that situation. I'm not a Torrey Smith hater like most, but I would have loved to have seen Patterson land in that CAR situation. I think Brady/BB value a precise route runner that can be counted upon to consistently read the defense correctly more than just about anything else.

 

[L5UT1ger]

If he was in a different offense with a different QB/coach I think he might have a chance to surprise, but I don't see it happening in his current circumstance. There are some QB's that love to chuck the ball down field and some coaches that will just call downfield plays to keep the defense honest(Cam/Norv comes to mind) but I don't think this is that situation. I'm not a Torrey Smith hater like most, but I would have loved to have seen Patterson land in that CAR situation. I think Brady/BB value a precise route runner that can be counted upon to consistently read the defense correctly more than just about anything else.

And having good hands. I can imagine a situation where brady hits his hands and it gets picked due to his deflecting it. Thats like a fumble and unlikely to be tolerated. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Ilov80s]

Most likely just a return guy and occasional gadget play.

 

[Biabreakable]

If he was in a different offense with a different QB/coach I think he might have a chance to surprise, but I don't see it happening in his current circumstance. There are some QB's that love to chuck the ball down field and some coaches that will just call downfield plays to keep the defense honest(Cam/Norv comes to mind) but I don't think this is that situation. I'm not a Torrey Smith hater like most, but I would have loved to have seen Patterson land in that CAR situation. I think Brady/BB value a precise route runner that can be counted upon to consistently read the defense correctly more than just about anything else.

Yeah he has dione some dumb things. Let the kicker force a fumble on a kick off return for example.

The guy is electric with the ball in his hands though.

 

[Biabreakable]

And having good hands. I can imagine a situation where brady hits his hands and it gets picked due to his deflecting it. Thats like a fumble and unlikely to be tolerated. Just my 2 cents.

He can catch. Thats not really the problem.

 

[JFS171]

Yeah he has dione some dumb things. Let the kicker force a fumble on a kick off return for example.

The guy is electric with the ball in his hands though.

This is what keeps suckering me in here, and there's few better than BB and McDaniels at finding ways to put guys in position to succeed.

Somewhere in this thread I've argued that 5-7 touches per game could be really productive for fantasy and very dangerous in the NFL.  We saw the Vikings force him the ball in glimpses, and he produced.  This wouldn't be the first time at all that the Pats unearthed a gem that the rest of the league discarded.

 

[ChainsawU]

Bill Belichick to Cordarrelle Patterson: We're going to make you the player you should be April 11, 2018

@PhilAPerry That story about Belichick telling Patterson the Patriots would turn him into the player he “should be”...? Made up. 30 July 2018

In April, Patterson made a few headlines following an appearance on NFL Network's Good Morning Football. As a guest on the show, he relayed a story of a conversation he said he had with Bill Belichick soon after being acquired by the Patriots.

"We're gonna make you," Belichick said, according to Patterson, "the player that you should be."

On Sunday, when I asked Patterson about the number of different duties he's performed during the early portion of camp, and that "player that you should be" comment from Belichick in particular - Patterson stopped me. "Listen, I'm a funny guy. I like to have fun," Patterson said. "You know, when they asked me that, Bill didn't say that. I just said that, just to get people fired up. I said it jokingly."

<_<

 

[JuniorGong]

Love him as a late round pick

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That's who he is...not serious enough to be a pro football player.

 

[Milkman]

I see a scenario where C-Patt is used more the first 4 games of the season. He could carve out a role. Probably not but he's amazing with the ball in his hand.

 

[Faust]

Cordarrelle Patterson - WR -  Patriots

Cordarrelle Patterson caught 5-of-9 targets for 37 yards in the Patriots' third preseason game.

Patterson returned kickoffs and punts and operated as New England’s No. 4 receiver behind Chris Hogan, Julian Edelman, and Phillip Dorsett. C-Patt made his mark by turning a first-half quick crosser into a first down after beating two tackles. Patterson’s ceiling is a gadget player and his offensive playing time is unclear, but he’s long been a dynamic playmaker with the ball in his hands. Particularly during Edelman’s four-game suspension, Patterson could flirt with fantasy value in return-yardage leagues.

Aug 24 - 10:40 PM

 

[LawFitz]

So at what point do we start paying attention to Mr. Flashy in New England? Have you seen their WR depth chart to start the season? There is literally no one left to keep this guy off the field with Tom Brady (for the first four games). The Pats don't do anything by accident. They ran 12 and 21 personell 41% of the time last year. Bump that up to 50% and you still have Mr. Flashy in for half of New England's offensive plays.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I see a scenario where C-Patt is used more the first 4 games of the season. He could carve out a role. Probably not but he's amazing with the ball in his hand.

 A guy in my league has been trying to convince me that he’s going to go 70/800/5 this year. 

 I am not feeling that. I believe white will take over the Dion Lewis role,  and the wide receiver corps outside of Hogan will be a mix and match. I could definitely see a scenario where one of several Wide receivers has a good game and gets hot for a few weeks with Edelman out, however; I cannot envision any scenario (outside of injury) Where Patterson usurps either Hogan or Edelman in the lineup.

 So unless Patterson is going 70/800/5 inside of four games, I am skeptical of that premonition.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So at what point do we start paying attention to Mr. Flashy in New England? Have you seen their WR depth chart to start the season? There is literally no one left to keep this guy off the field with Tom Brady (for the first four games). The Pats don't do anything by accident. They ran 12 and 21 personell 41% of the time last year. Bump that up to 50% and you still have Mr. Flashy in for half of New England's offensive plays.

 But how many targets will that result in? 

 I remember a ton of hype and chatter about Brandon cooks in New England last year… Some mentioned the Randy moss 20 touchdown season in the same breath as Brandon cooks. That did not work out so well for people who spend a high draft pick on cooks. 

 So yes, Mr. flashy might well be on the field, but that does not mean he’ll be heavily targeted. I see the pecking order as Hogan/Gronkowski, white, someone none of us have ever heard of, and then the collection of WR threes.

 Like I said… It’s possible… But I certainly would not spend a high pick betting on it. The one scenario where I could see Patterson coming in handy would be if you drafted Mark Ingram as a flex player, and paired him up with Patterson to play at flex for four weeks out of sheer desperation in a 14 to 16 team league. 

 

[LawFitz]

Who said anything about making a high pick? You can get Mr. Flashy for free. Okay not entirely free. He'll cost you your last roster spot.

As far as targets go, I have no idea. But I do know that this dude makes more out of targets than all but a small handful of players in the league. And suddenly, the targets he receives could be very high quality.

 

[Interseptopus]

Who said anything about making a high pick? You can get Mr. Flashy for free. Okay not entirely free. He'll cost you your last roster spot.

Grabbed him in 2 dynasty leagues for free since I have no chance otherwise and could use him if there is a sudden resurgence of his career. Seen weirder things from the Hoodie. Even flex-worthy value is considered a home run here. There is nowhere to go but up for Patterson at his current value. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Who said anything about making a high pick? You can get Mr. Flashy for free. Okay not entirely free. He'll cost you your last roster spot.

As far as targets go, I have no idea. But I do know that this dude makes more out of targets than all but a small handful of players in the league. And suddenly, the targets he receives could be very high quality.

He went in the 18th of 27 in my IDP league on Sunday. But that’s because he also gets a punt return and kick return garbage and scores. That said, I don’t know if that’s how the Pats are using himHe went in the 18th of 27 in my IDP league on Sunday. But that’s because he also gets a punt return and kick return garbage and scores. That said, I don’t know if that’s how the Pats are using him

 He went in the 15th of 18 in my standard redraft league PPR 

That said, I agree he’s a lottery ticket. It could pan out. But after a week for I’m having a hard time seeing where his targets are coming from.

 

[Milkman]

 A guy in my league has been trying to convince me that he’s going to go 70/800/5 this year. 

 I am not feeling that. I believe white will take over the Dion Lewis role,  and the wide receiver corps outside of Hogan will be a mix and match. I could definitely see a scenario where one of several Wide receivers has a good game and gets hot for a few weeks with Edelman out, however; I cannot envision any scenario (outside of injury) Where Patterson usurps either Hogan or Edelman in the lineup.

 So unless Patterson is going 70/800/5 inside of four games, I am skeptical of that premonition.  

And i don't blame you for your skepticism......I did say I think it's a long shot. C-Patt's rookie year he looked like a special player and it seems everytime he gets the ball he is so close to breaking it for a TD. I still think he's special and maybe BB can put him in good spots. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And i don't blame you for your skepticism......I did say I think it's a long shot. C-Patt's rookie year he looked like a special player and it seems everytime he gets the ball he is so close to breaking it for a TD. I still think he's special and maybe BB can put him in good spots. 

I don’t disagree with this. I loved him as a prospect in Minnesota… And it sure seemed like they tried to make him into a star and for whatever reason, it just never clicked.

 There is potential there for sure. I’m just not sure if the player is going to live up to the potential. It is certainly possible that his new scene will help in that. I was a little bit surprised to learn that the Raiders did not keep him since he does seem to ooze talent 

 

[LawFitz]

Who were his QB and coach in Minny? Last year was an utter disaster on the coaching side in Oakland. Gruden wanted the cheaper Dwayne Harris for similar returns and to move on offensively. Belichick saw something different, at least if the fact that CP will start as their WR3 for the first four games is any indication.

 

[habsfan]

As "last roster spot" guys go, he's as good a candidate as any I guess but I'm having trouble buying into the narrative of the transformational effect the Pats are going to have on his game. There have been countless "they just don't know how to use him" or "wait until it clicks" type players but how many times does a dramatic improvement really occur?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

As "last roster spot" guys go, he's as good a candidate as any I guess but I'm having trouble buying into the narrative of the transformational effect the Pats are going to have on his game. There have been countless "they just don't know how to use him" or "wait until it clicks" type players but how many times does a dramatic improvement really occur?

 I took John Brown in Baltimore at the same price. At least he has 1000 yard season under his belt. So long as brown stays healthy, I would take him 100 out of 100 times over Cordell Patterson. 

 That said, I don’t begrudge  anyone the lottery ticket. Maybe it will hit. 

 

[abbottjamesr]

So the final roster is released for NE and they only have 3 WR's for the the first 4 games, Hogan, Dorset, and Patterson.  This along with Belicheck saying he is going to "make Patterson the player he was destined to be" makes me think he is worth rostering at least for the first week.  If he is not a thing I can always drop him for some other flyer.

Waldman was on the Audible this week saying that he though Patterson could fit the Aaron Hernandez role of RB and WR hybrid and general freakish natural talent.  

 

[Interseptopus]

So the final roster is released for NE and they only have 3 WR's for the the first 4 games, Hogan, Dorset, and Patterson.  This along with Belicheck saying he is going to "make Patterson the player he was destined to be" makes me think he is worth rostering at least for the first week.  If he is not a thing I can always drop him for some other flyer.

Waldman was on the Audible this week saying that he though Patterson could fit the Aaron Hernandez role of RB and WR hybrid and general freakish natural talent.  

That quote was from Patterson himself on what Belichick said to him, not a direct quote from Belichick himself. 

There is a different player you should have your eyes on... 

However hes worth a flier, yes. 

 

[cockroach]

That quote was from Patterson himself on what Belichick said to him, not a direct quote from Belichick himself. 

There is a different player you should have your eyes on... 

However hes worth a flier, yes. 

Assuming you mean Hollister.  

 

[Hilts]

Well, he did something last game. Maybe he gets more work with only 2 rbs.

 

[foxco]

Well, he did something last game. Maybe he gets more work with only 2 rbs.

Doubt it with Edelman coming back. He could have a couple of more good games for sure but I'd be shocked if there was any real consistency. 

 

[Faust]

Cordarrelle Patterson rushed 11 times for 61 yards and a touchdown and caught one pass for seven yards in the Patriots' Week 9 win over the Packers.

Patterson had a five carry, 50-yard drive after James White left with a leg injury. He didn't start but had just one fewer carry than White. Patterson has looked good at running back with Sony Michel out the last two weeks. He could have a Ty Montgomery role even when Michel returns.

Nov 4 - 11:50 PM

 

[Bri]

I was impressed. On that one drive, I couldn't understand why the Pack weren't respecting him after getting burned once, then twice... The rest of the time, he ran hard. He didn't get much but he was way tougher than I would have expected a WR to run. I thought he would run upright, but he got his shoulders parallel to the ground. I was impressed. 

 

[rockaction]

That's who he is...not serious enough to be a pro football player.

Belichick will make you a football player even if you don't play to type yet have talent, if you know what I mean. 

Master of it. He'll be mega-useful for them going forward. 

The Patriots just see everything better than anyone else.  

 

[ffmail4me]

He really is impressive. Cheering for him and Gordon, even though I'm not really a Patriots fan. 

 

[rockaction]

He really is impressive. Cheering for him and Gordon, even though I'm not really a Patriots fan. 

The Pats became downright lovable this year with their true embrace of Raider-esque tendencies instead of their clandestine way around it. They basically said, "Give me your poor, your hungry, your tired, your weak..." and rolled with it, finally, instead of obscuring things with The Partriot Way.  It's been cool to watch.  

 

[TartanLion]

RB perhaps suits him more as it’s more instinctive than WR where he always seemed to struggle digesting and running routes properly. 

He’s always been mega fun to watch, simply handing him the ball and letting his athletic traits do what they can seems more of a recipe for success 

 

[Yenrub]

He won a dynasty game for me last night, he scored 14 points. I won by 11.

I was holding out hope that Michel would play last night.

Patterson is fun to watch 

 

[4th&inches]

After losing AJ Green for who knows how long, this guy is really tempting to grab and slot in as my WR2/ flex if he can keep getting all these touches each week. 

 

[Biabreakable]

Belichick will make you a football player even if you don't play to type yet have talent, if you know what I mean. 

Master of it. He'll be mega-useful for them going forward. 

The Patriots just see everything better than anyone else.  

I disagree with your last statement although there is some truth to that I suppose.

The difference being the Patriots have Tom Brady which makes a lot of things work that wouldn't otherwise.

The Patriots did trade Rick Spielman the pick that he used on Patterson. Not sure if the Patriots were considering selecting Patterson there or not, but I did get the feeling they may have had some interest in Patterson even then.

He is a good player. Might be better suited for RB. He is more of an offensive weapon, because he isn't reliable enough to be a WR. His hands are fine, he just can't read defenses or run routes precisely enough.

 

[mt99808]

Does his position stay as WR in yahoo rest of season?

 

[UncleZen]

Does his position stay as WR in yahoo rest of season?

Yahoo never changes a players position once the season starts. They may add the RB designation as well, but they won't change it.

 

[rockaction]

I disagree with your last statement although there is some truth to that I suppose.

The difference being the Patriots have Tom Brady which makes a lot of things work that wouldn't otherwise.

Very true. That makes a huge difference. I was just crowing after last night, even though I roster Patterson nowhere. Just always thought he was a player, that's all. Your disagreement is fine by me, that's why we're here. Judging from your past work, it's probably correct, Minnesota. (Yeah, I read the team threads.) 

 

[Biabreakable]

Very true. That makes a huge difference. I was just crowing after last night, even though I roster Patterson nowhere. Just always thought he was a player, that's all. Your disagreement is fine by me, that's why we're here. Judging from your past work, it's probably correct, Minnesota. (Yeah, I read the team threads.) 

My only disagreement that no one else could see what he is good at.

Lots of speculation about turning him into a RB for awhile now.

 

[rockaction]

My only disagreement that no one else could see what he is good at.

Lots of speculation about turning him into a RB for awhile now.

Yeah, I read the link, my man. Minnesota sure did see what he was good at. That's why I made the joke. 

Didn't know about the speculation. Thanks for the input. He looked good last night. Somehow, you've got to find a way to get that talent to flash, though they never could with Devin Hester, who remained a return specialist all his days, IIRC.  

 

[JFS171]

The problem here is knowing where this ride goes. Patterson is a ridiculous athlete, and I think he could be pretty useful as either a RB or WR if he’s getting 10+ touches per week - 10 opportunities to let his athletic gifts make a big play. 

Does that continue?  That’s at least in part related to Michel’s status and when he returns. I guess there’s some part wondering whether James White’s foot tweak causes issues for him moving forward. 

If both are healthy, it’s hard to see Patterson continuing to get that level of opportunity, and on 4-6 touches per game, he’s not nearly as interesting. 

 

[rockaction]

The problem here is knowing where this ride goes. Patterson is a ridiculous athlete, and I think he could be pretty useful as either a RB or WR if he’s getting 10+ touches per week - 10 opportunities to let his athletic gifts make a big play. 

Does that continue?  That’s at least in part related to Michel’s status and when he returns. I guess there’s some part wondering whether James White’s foot tweak causes issues for him moving forward. 

If both are healthy, it’s hard to see Patterson continuing to get that level of opportunity, and on 4-6 touches per game, he’s not nearly as interesting. 

This is true. He's not a fantasy guy. I'm just talking pure football right now.  

 

[Biabreakable]

Yeah, I read the link, my man. Minnesota sure did see what he was good at. That's why I made the joke. 

Didn't know about the speculation. Thanks for the input. He looked good last night. Somehow, you've got to find a way to get that talent to flash, though they never could with Devin Hester, who remained a return specialist all his days, IIRC.  

Norv Turner didn't really see it and Teddy would never look his way thus why they didn't sign Flashy to a second contract.

Hidden yards missing here because of Patterson return skills.

Adam Thielen and Diggs other reasons why.

 

[rockaction]

Norv Turner didn't really see it and Teddy would never look his way thus why they didn't sign Flashy to a second contract.

Hidden yards missing here because of Patterson return skills.

Adam Thielen and Diggs other reasons why.

Yeah, you can only have so many guys at WR, really, though it would be nice to have him returning kicks. Just -- punt returning is different than kick returning and so many go for touchbacks these days that it's a roster move. 

Patterson had to find his way on the field somehow, I think, though you may know better. 

Thielen and Diggs are awesome, by the way. Good luck this year. Kind of cheering for you guys, which might be the kiss of death.