What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

RB Zack Moss, CIN (1 Viewer)

zamboni said:
It takes a lot of strain dodging pillows.
Click to expand...


Joseph Fauria (TE who got some FF love in 2013 for his 7 TDs and made late night tv for his TD dances) once said he turned his ankle chasing his not yet potty trained puppy. Nobody believed it but he was afraid of getting cutting or losing his weekly stipend for a non-football injury.

4-5 years later he admitted he did it playing volleyball.

 
First i will admit i know nothing.  My guess is worth as much or as little as any other guess

I drafted moss and have him as a keeper.  I had high hopes for him last year and watched every bills game.  I came away really disappointed with what I saw.  Some guys just don't get the nfl game and I think he is going to be one of them.  More often than not he looked out of his league to me.  Even a guy like singletary while isn't consistent looks like a solid nfl rb on say every 4th run.  With Moss I felt like it was maybe every 15th run.  

Here is hoping i'm wrong for the sake of my team but last year left me feeling less than inspired.

 
killface said:
  More often than not he looked out of his league to me.  Even a guy like singletary while isn't consistent looks like a solid nfl rb on say every 4th run
Click to expand...
Hmm, interesting. I actually saw the opposite. To me, Moss looked superior to Singletary in essentially every way towards the latter part of the year prior to his injury. However, his injury history is a concern, and it’s looking like a real one unfortunately. Can’t be very effective when you can’t stay on the field. 

 
JoeSteeler said:
@PresMoss2

They tryna do me dirty but it's okay I'll prevail

8:35 PM · Sep 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

hmm…
Click to expand...
posted two days ago though. Breida looked good in the third preseason game with the 1s. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
tricky92 said:
Ha!

If you don't have Cook maybe try to move Mattison to the Cook owner. Otherwise, I would rather have Moss. I think he has more standalone value.
Click to expand...


Yea i would try and move mattison if you are being forced into this decision

There is no way the cooks owner wouldn't be interested

 
Alex P Keaton said:
Did Bloom have an explanation?   Seriously, for him to be droppable there has to be a back story.
Click to expand...


I'm not sure you need to overthink this.   We'll see if something more concrete emerges, but Cecil and Bloom pretty clearly aren't fans of both Moss and Singletary, as judged by their pre-season watch list of the Bills.   If anything, they're on Team Breida.  Not surprised at all that they're advocating dropping after the scratch.

Even at the time I was thinking, I get it, you're not fans of the RB talent here.   But we're probably talking about a backfield of two, unless you're very bullish on Breida playing well and staying healthy, and this is a great offense.  Even if it's heavy pass-oriented, it's unlikely the Bills get the same favorable throwing conditions they enjoyed for much of last season.   In other words, there has to be half-way decent RB3 here if you pick the right back, and I don't think both being low-end RB3s that you can spot start is out of the question.   Since Singletary fumbled twice, I wouldn't write Moss off yet.    Could be a case of trying to light a fire under him.   We'll see, but dropping seems silly in most formats at this point.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
GoBirds said:
Sirius radio just said drop too. 
 

any news snippets with any promise out there? What did coach say? 
Click to expand...
He said the decision was "based on numbers."   Obviously it depends on the league specifics, but I wouldn't drop him.   I actually picked him up after he was dropped in a league.  

 
ANybody can just say "drop him" but when he is on your team and the pickings are slim to replace him it becomes a different story.

Nobody has given any reasoning as to why he should be dropped after 1 week.  I will stand by my original statement that it would be insane to simply cut bait at this point. 

 
pantherclub said:
ANybody can just say "drop him" but when he is on your team and the pickings are slim to replace him it becomes a different story.

Nobody has given any reasoning as to why he should be dropped after 1 week.  I will stand by my original statement that it would be insane to simply cut bait at this point. 
Click to expand...
I think it goes without saying that the "droppable" comment implies choices.  No one is going to say to drop him and leave the spot open.  Him being droppable assumes a viable wire alternative - Hamler, Murray, someone else that's got upside.  "droppable" doesn't mean auto-drop, it means one is "able" if appropriate.

 
Hankmoody said:
I think it goes without saying that the "droppable" comment implies choices.  No one is going to say to drop him and leave the spot open.  Him being droppable assumes a viable wire alternative - Hamler, Murray, someone else that's got upside.  "droppable" doesn't mean auto-drop, it means one is "able" if appropriate.
Click to expand...


Everything implies choices. Unless we're at the point where words fail to have any meaning, "droppable" implies to me this player will not help your team and you're better off looking elsewhere. If he said this in the middle of a conversation about 10 team leagues, fair enough but absent that context it's a pretty poor outlook for Moss.

 
There seems to be a subtext that people suspect, without evidence, an off-field issue.

I guess he could be dropped for Mitchell, but I would keep him over a leveon bell or other deep roster players for now….

 
While I'm never really on board with dropping a potential starting RB on a potent offense, I can actually see the reasoning behind dropping him (FWIW, he was dropped in one of my leagues prior to games starting on Sunday):

  • The RB1 on the team appears to be Josh Allen; especially in the RZ
  • in redraft, specifically shorter-bench leagues, I'd personally rather take a shot at the likes of Mitchell, Gainwell, White, Murray (if not already rostered)
  • it seems the best case scenario is a RB split between Moss & Singletary with limited RZ opps
As an example; in one of my leagues, we only have 5 bench spots. I currently have: Moss, Dillon, & Sermon as my bench RB's. Of those, I plan to drop Moss to try and snag Mitchell. Could that be a mistake? sure

 
pantherclub said:
ANybody can just say "drop him" but when he is on your team and the pickings are slim to replace him it becomes a different story.

Nobody has given any reasoning as to why he should be dropped after 1 week.  I will stand by my original statement that it would be insane to simply cut bait at this point. 
Click to expand...
I’m not necessarily advocating that people drop him, but as a Bills fan, here would be the reasoning:

-There is every indication that the Bills intend to be a very heavily leaning passing team. From last year’s numbers, to the off-season and comments made, and what we saw in Week 1. That lowers the value of all Buffalo RBs

-More talk in the off-season seemed to center around Singletary and his improved burst than anything about Moss

-Beane/McDermott said that Moss being inactive was a “numbers thing”. Moss not playing any special teams makes him a bigger risk to be inactive if he is that borderline

-At the same time, TE Sweeney was active, does not play any special teams, and played a grand total of 3 snaps. So that’s rather concerning.

-Buffalo has a really really bad O-line. That’s bad news for all RBs, especially since it makes it even more likely that the Bills won’t hand it off near the goaline because they may not trust their O-line to win those trench battles.

 
Sam Quentin said:
There seems to be a subtext that people suspect, without evidence, an off-field issue.

I guess he could be dropped for Mitchell, but I would keep him over a leveon bell or other deep roster players for now….
Click to expand...
If you have a chance to get mitchell and if Moss is on your roster I would find someone else to release than moss. 

 
GroveDiesel said:
I’m not necessarily advocating that people drop him, but as a Bills fan, here would be the reasoning:

-There is every indication that the Bills intend to be a very heavily leaning passing team. From last year’s numbers, to the off-season and comments made, and what we saw in Week 1. That lowers the value of all Buffalo RBs

-More talk in the off-season seemed to center around Singletary and his improved burst than anything about Moss

-Beane/McDermott said that Moss being inactive was a “numbers thing”. Moss not playing any special teams makes him a bigger risk to be inactive if he is that borderline

-At the same time, TE Sweeney was active, does not play any special teams, and played a grand total of 3 snaps. So that’s rather concerning.

-Buffalo has a really really bad O-line. That’s bad news for all RBs, especially since it makes it even more likely that the Bills won’t hand it off near the goaline because they may not trust their O-line to win those trench battles.
Click to expand...
I get all that.  I really do, I am just saying its insanity and a stupid strategy to simply move on from him after one week and replace him on your team with another total unknown.    At some point they are going to give him a chance, that is just how this works, now he may totally be a bust but in the oft chance he produces I want him on my roster since this offense looks to be super charged going forward. 

In my league the only guy I would gamble on is mitchell, the others are guys like Ingram, Hyde, Hasty and white.  No thanks I will take my chances with Moss

 
just dropped him in a 12 teamer redraft PPR for Gainwell.  Moss & Singletary split time last year thus making both average.  Now Moss is apparently in the dog house for who knows what.  right now Gainwells floor is 8 or so.  Moss is 0.  whatever, felt okay to hit the drop button & no feeling of impending doom came over me.

 
I'm sort of wondering if the "numbers" comment from McDermott might be a bit of concern for the extra game this year and what it might mean for general wear.  In essence, this is about controlling the overall "number" of touches each back receives across the year.

I follow the Seahawks and it's worth noting they kept 5 RBs on the roster this year and had Alex Collins inactive, a player that several Seahawks fans assumed had won the #2 spot here.  I'm fairly confident this is what Pete Carroll has in mind with all of those backs.

Or, I could yet again be overthinking it in all cases.

 
McD has been known to be pretty honest about his decisions. 

This could actually just be a numbers game, nothing more nothing less. They signed Breida in the offseason to a 1 year deal, maybe they just wanted to see what Breida/Singletary could do instead of Moss/Singletary. Maybe give Breida a little playing time so he's a little more ready when/if his # is called. I wouldn't look to much into it.

 
So do we think he’s even active this week, maybe even getting carries?

I drafted him after last years hype of it only being a matter of time until he took the lead role.  :X

 
It’s a long season and what’s good now will be bad and what’s bad now will be good.  Let’s be realistic here…if they played Moss next game and Singletary fumbles/get hurt and Moss breaks a couple big runs do you think anyone will care about the one game inactive?  Who knows if he’s loafing around practice, thinking he’s the guy and they want to take him down a peg….not saying that’s the case but Moss didn’t suddenly turn bad.

I don’t even own him, I actually drafted Singletary in all my leagues but I’m not sold on him and I doubt the team is either.  Buff loses another game or gets off to a slow start they will try anything…It’s a long season

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Faust
College WR Jalen Royals, Utah State
Replies
9
Views
301
Faust
Faust
Faust
College RB Nicholas Singleton, Penn State
Replies
17
Views
828
crushedspirit
C
Faust
TE Colston Loveland, CHI
2
Replies
82
Views
2K
C & C
C

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top