KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Whic of these 3 QBs would u choose in redraft
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Redraft Showdown: Hass vs Palmer vs McNabb (1 Viewer)
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mcnabbmcnow
Footballguy
Fo me, it is
1. Mcnabb
2. Palmer
3. Hasselbeck
However, if I had Mcnabb I would get Cutler or Schaub or someone half decent as my backup. Palmer might be safer. I don't like Hasselbeck this year at all..no WR's.
1. Mcnabb
2. Palmer
3. Hasselbeck
However, if I had Mcnabb I would get Cutler or Schaub or someone half decent as my backup. Palmer might be safer. I don't like Hasselbeck this year at all..no WR's.
Hasselbeck never has WRs and he always puts up numbers. He made Engram and Burleson fantasy starters last year. And look at what heppened to Darrel Jackson after he left Seattle.
BigRed
Footballguy
Yeah but anyone who knows anything about Engram knows he is a "legit" WR and Jackson is actually pretty good "when healthy." My point being his true, his WR corps has been underwhelming but not so horrible (even given the over-analyzed drops). Now? He has Burleson as his BEST WR. Now maybe he's coming into his own (still young) - but basically - yecch. This is ugly.
PS I drafted Hass - and kicking myself. As backup great - as a starter? Good luck w/that. He had his career year last year. Figure 25/15ish - if you're lucky.
PS I drafted Hass - and kicking myself. As backup great - as a starter? Good luck w/that. He had his career year last year. Figure 25/15ish - if you're lucky.
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All Hass had last year was Engram and Burleson. Hackett was injured all year, and Jackson was in SF last year. Only difference this year is that Engram is injured 3 games. I don't see that making a huge difference.Thats all I'm expecting 25/15.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I would say my ranking is similar... all 3 are very close. I too would say McNabb is the highest in redraft.
BigRed
Footballguy
I'd take it. :( Maybe you're right, just not feeling optimistic.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Palmer>Hasselbeck>>>>>>>>>>>>McNabb
Bamboo Bill
Footballguy
1a - Palmer
1b - McNabb
3 - Hasselback.
1b - McNabb
3 - Hasselback.
I've had a very hard time trying to figure out why so many people are so down on McNabb. He was #1 in ppg before his knee injury, and is only now 100%. He's also lit up the pre-season.
I can (almost) understand people hesitating for injury risk, wanting an above average backup...but McNabb will almost certainly be a top five QB again from a ppg perspective and has been one of my favorite targets all summer long.
I can (almost) understand people hesitating for injury risk, wanting an above average backup...but McNabb will almost certainly be a top five QB again from a ppg perspective and has been one of my favorite targets all summer long.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Because he hasn't completed a full season in about 4 years.And I watched 2 of his games and he looked slow and inaccurate. If it weren't for the short passes to Westbrook he would be a 3rd or 4th tier QB.
Sweeper
Footballguy
All three QB's are suffering from or re-cooperating from injuries. They are all starting to get older to the point where age is becoming a legitimate concern. Age is a more serious concern because of their injury status and something to be wary of leading into the season. I wouldn't plan on #1 QB production from either of these QB's. I would hope for a fantasy QBBC at best if you're choosing from these guys.
Palmer is my # 1.
- I think McNabb is the best QB in the group, but his lack of a quality receiver is intimidating, to say the least so cross him off.
- Palmer who has a nice set of WR's. It's the Bengals organizational problems that leaves me worried. At the NFL level, problems in the locker room are always going to effect performance. Because this is hard to quantify, I;m going to have to ignore it for the sake of this post, but let me just mark this with an * that I think management/coaching/front office problems are going to become an issue for Cincy.
McNabb - # 2 But the loss his # 1 WR didn't help what already looked to be a troubled starting lineup. All I can imagine is the same thing that happened last year where he came out of the gate with garbage for the first 6 games. Nothing has changed from the beginning of last year. He is # 2 over Hass because he can protect the ball better than Hass. He will make fewer mistakes than Hass. Otherwise, I think they both have equally unimpressive seasons. McNabb just has fewer mistakes.
Hass - # 3 A solid QB that keeps losing his staring WR's. Anytime he develops a little chemistry with a WR, they seem to disappear with an injury. He has talent, but not enough of a supporting cast to live up to expectations. Add to that a suspect running game and I think this translates to a 3:2 TD to int ratio on the field. I don't like it at all.
Palmer is the only one worth taking a shot on. He is a solid QB with solid WR's on an offensive minded team. Palmer exposes you to less risk than McNabb or Hasselbeck.
Palmer is my # 1.
- I think McNabb is the best QB in the group, but his lack of a quality receiver is intimidating, to say the least so cross him off.
- Palmer who has a nice set of WR's. It's the Bengals organizational problems that leaves me worried. At the NFL level, problems in the locker room are always going to effect performance. Because this is hard to quantify, I;m going to have to ignore it for the sake of this post, but let me just mark this with an * that I think management/coaching/front office problems are going to become an issue for Cincy.
McNabb - # 2 But the loss his # 1 WR didn't help what already looked to be a troubled starting lineup. All I can imagine is the same thing that happened last year where he came out of the gate with garbage for the first 6 games. Nothing has changed from the beginning of last year. He is # 2 over Hass because he can protect the ball better than Hass. He will make fewer mistakes than Hass. Otherwise, I think they both have equally unimpressive seasons. McNabb just has fewer mistakes.
Hass - # 3 A solid QB that keeps losing his staring WR's. Anytime he develops a little chemistry with a WR, they seem to disappear with an injury. He has talent, but not enough of a supporting cast to live up to expectations. Add to that a suspect running game and I think this translates to a 3:2 TD to int ratio on the field. I don't like it at all.
Palmer is the only one worth taking a shot on. He is a solid QB with solid WR's on an offensive minded team. Palmer exposes you to less risk than McNabb or Hasselbeck.
So....in McNabb's nine seasons, how many times has he had a pro-bowl caliber WR to throw to? While Philly's WR corps is far less then stellar...this group is better then what he worked with before, and right after TO.Nothing has changed from the begining of last year for him? Umm....yes it has...a ton. He missed basicly his entire off-season regiman last year, and was clearly not yet 100% on his feet to start the season. He is this year.But it's all good. If we all agreed on every player, what fun would FF be? Besides...I'd rather keep picking him up in the fifth and sixth rounds as the 9th QB off the boards!
PS: If I grab a typical QB15 as backup, and McNabb simply plays 12 games at his traditional (healthy) ppg....I still have top 5 production on the season....meaning he's well worth the risk at hs current ADP.
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I'd go:
McNabb
Hasselbeck
Palmer
I think Cincy is going to implode this year and Palmer is likely going to be at his wits end by week 4 or so. I could easily envision a scenario where Palmer isn't a top-10 QB.
McNabb has the most talent/upside his only question is health(both to him and his WR's) He could be top-5 pretty easily if things break right.
Hasselbeck is basically McNabb without rushing numbers and a little worse WR's. I think Seattle is going to pass less this year and are on a slight decline as a team so maybe he'll be closer to previous years than last years numbers.
McNabb
Hasselbeck
Palmer
I think Cincy is going to implode this year and Palmer is likely going to be at his wits end by week 4 or so. I could easily envision a scenario where Palmer isn't a top-10 QB.
McNabb has the most talent/upside his only question is health(both to him and his WR's) He could be top-5 pretty easily if things break right.
Hasselbeck is basically McNabb without rushing numbers and a little worse WR's. I think Seattle is going to pass less this year and are on a slight decline as a team so maybe he'll be closer to previous years than last years numbers.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I'd Take McNabb over the other 2.. u just need to back himmillertyme1
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McNoodle
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Zoo York
McNabb
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
I'd probably have to draft Palmer ahead of him because they will throw 50 times a game, but I love McNabb this year. CPOY.
both McNabb and Palmer have more "name recognition" and that alone makes owners draft them earlier than the boring Hasselbeck.I like Hasselbeck for 2 reasons:1. you get him a bit later than the other 22. schedule: the NFC west with MIA thrown in there as a bonus are all tasty matchups.
