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New England faces their first physical challenge of the year this week. That challenge should have come from the Chargers, but they were not up to the task in week 2. This game, however may be different.

Brady has had all the time he has needed for the last seven weeks. I have never seen anyone get in his face. Randy Moss and the other Wrs have run down the field cleanly; I have not seen them jammed at the line of scrimmage. All that should change on Sunday. The Washington Redskins have one of the most ferocious defenses in football. Will Moss hang on to the ball when Sean Taylor slams into him at full speed? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out.

I can't pick the Redskins, because they just don't put up enough points to be able to hang in there. But they have a shot. The best shot so far.

 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??

 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
NE was awesome in the first half against Miami. In fact, it was the most dominant NFL performance I have ever witnessed. The Pats have yet to have a slow week in scoring. History suggests that they will. No team has ever kept up this pace, and while people may have an argument that NE is the greatest team ever, I don't think they are unique in this respect. Also, why do you think the Skins only put up 6? They're certainly more capable of that. It's going to be a close physical game. I'd guess the Pats win, 20-14. But they'll have bruises to show for it, afterwards.
 
This is just the type of game that ends undefeated seasons. I've had a feeling about this all week. NE is obviously a LOT better...

but the Skins are the type of just good enough to pull some magic but not good enough to get NE's attention enabling them to sneak under the radar, get a couple big breaks, play physical and run the ball. Because running the ball, controlling the clock (not easy with the skin's shambled line, but that nis their best and only bet) then get pressure on Brady and get a couple breaks...

it could happen.

 
The Redskins have a potent rushing offense and a pretty darn good secondary. I'm not certain they're the ones who will figure it out, but they could have a chance at it.

 
The redskins are going to be the first team to be able to keep the score within 17 points of the Pats.

 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
NE was awesome in the first half against Miami. In fact, it was the most dominant NFL performance I have ever witnessed. The Pats have yet to have a slow week in scoring. History suggests that they will. No team has ever kept up this pace, and while people may have an argument that NE is the greatest team ever, I don't think they are unique in this respect. Also, why do you think the Skins only put up 6? They're certainly more capable of that. It's going to be a close physical game. I'd guess the Pats win, 20-14. But they'll have bruises to show for it, afterwards.
I cant give the 'Skins more than 6 because theyre going to be without THREE starting Olinemen for starters (C, RG, RT). NE's already got the best 3-4 line in the league. Matched up against backups really isnt fair. Santana Moss is hurt. Brandon Lloyd stinks. Cooley's good, but Thomas or Colvin can cover him. He's not used to being covered by LBs that actually match up. But Cooley will have to stay in and block more than normal once NE starts blowing up that Oline. Randel-El is nice. He could have a game, but no Washington WR has caught a TD pass yet this year. What's that all about? The 'Skins are averaging 92 yds a game rushing over the past 4 weeks since their starting linemen have fallen. Therye gonna probably play without a starting outside LB, Marcus Washington, and Id guess theyll throw a rookie in his place. Two of their top 3 corners are hurt, Smoot and Rogers, and their lead CB, Springs cant cover Moss anyway. Theyve got two nice starting safeties. Taylor and Landry are a nice tandem. But Landry is a rookie. He has no idea. NE's O line will be blowing that Dline off the ball all day. This game is going to be a as one-sided as the established spread suggests. I can definitely see a score of something like either 27-3, if NE's willing to call of the dogs, or 41-10, if theyre in a bad mood because they gave up a TD and feel 4TDs isnt enough of a cushion, or someone makes an idiot 'cheaters' remark at some point during the week.
 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
Gotta love the transitive property of NFL football. Someone always pulls it out.How they played Miami is not *necessarily* relevant to how they will play the Patriots. All the dude said is that they have a chance -and you jump on him.Homer much?
 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
NE was awesome in the first half against Miami. In fact, it was the most dominant NFL performance I have ever witnessed. The Pats have yet to have a slow week in scoring. History suggests that they will. No team has ever kept up this pace, and while people may have an argument that NE is the greatest team ever, I don't think they are unique in this respect. Also, why do you think the Skins only put up 6? They're certainly more capable of that. It's going to be a close physical game. I'd guess the Pats win, 20-14. But they'll have bruises to show for it, afterwards.
I cant give the 'Skins more than 6 because theyre going to be without THREE starting Olinemen for starters (C, RG, RT). NE's already got the best 3-4 line in the league. Matched up against backups really isnt fair. Santana Moss is hurt. Brandon Lloyd stinks. Cooley's good, but Thomas or Colvin can cover him. He's not used to being covered by LBs that actually match up. But Cooley will have to stay in and block more than normal once NE starts blowing up that Oline. Randel-El is nice. He could have a game, but no Washington WR has caught a TD pass yet this year. What's that all about? The 'Skins are averaging 92 yds a game rushing over the past 4 weeks since their starting linemen have fallen. Therye gonna probably play without a starting outside LB, Marcus Washington, and Id guess theyll throw a rookie in his place. Two of their top 3 corners are hurt, Smoot and Rogers, and their lead CB, Springs cant cover Moss anyway. Theyve got two nice starting safeties. Taylor and Landry are a nice tandem. But Landry is a rookie. He has no idea. NE's O line will be blowing that Dline off the ball all day. This game is going to be a as one-sided as the established spread suggests. I can definitely see a score of something like either 27-3, if NE's willing to call of the dogs, or 41-10, if theyre in a bad mood because they gave up a TD and feel 4TDs isnt enough of a cushion, or someone makes an idiot 'cheaters' remark at some point during the week.
41 -10? 27-3? So your basic argument is that the Pats will pretty much decide how many points they want to score, on this team like every other team in this league? (BTW, are you related to EOM?)
 
Nothing I have seen from the Skins this year would indicate they are capable of beating the Pats at home. Their Oline is decimated and they can't create a pass rush with only 4. Sure, they have a good secondary. Problem is, NE has unreal WRs and the best QB in the NFL. The WRs will have plenty of time to get open and Brady just doesn't make enough (if any) mistakes. Wash has struggled to create big plays in the passing game all year and if they get behind (which is likely) I can't see them climbing back into this game.

 
New England faces their first physical challenge of the year this week. That challenge should have come from the Chargers, but they were not up to the task in week 2. This game, however may be different.Brady has had all the time he has needed for the last seven weeks. I have never seen anyone get in his face. Randy Moss and the other Wrs have run down the field cleanly; I have not seen them jammed at the line of scrimmage. All that should change on Sunday. The Washington Redskins have one of the most ferocious defenses in football. Will Moss hang on to the ball when Sean Taylor slams into him at full speed? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out.I can't pick the Redskins, because they just don't put up enough points to be able to hang in there. But they have a shot. The best shot so far.
Do you work? How many threads are you going to start this week? The skins are the third best team in their division and haven't beaten anyone. They will get killed by the Pats.
 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
Gotta love the transitive property of NFL football. Someone always pulls it out.How they played Miami is not *necessarily* relevant to how they will play the Patriots. All the dude said is that they have a chance -and you jump on him.Homer much?
Cmon, now. It wasnt really that harsh, and it wasnt exactly a dark-alley mugging. Nothing nessecarily means anything, so its all just open to interpretation. But that doesnt mean we need to ignore a common opponent, no matter how irrelevant it may seem .
 
Nothing I have seen from the Skins this year would indicate they are capable of beating the Pats at home. Their Oline is decimated and they can't create a pass rush with only 4. Sure, they have a good secondary. Problem is, NE has unreal WRs and the best QB in the NFL. The WRs will have plenty of time to get open and Brady just doesn't make enough (if any) mistakes. Wash has struggled to create big plays in the passing game all year and if they get behind (which is likely) I can't see them climbing back into this game.
jurb is right on the money here. Unfortunately. :rolleyes:
 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
NE was awesome in the first half against Miami. In fact, it was the most dominant NFL performance I have ever witnessed. The Pats have yet to have a slow week in scoring. History suggests that they will. No team has ever kept up this pace, and while people may have an argument that NE is the greatest team ever, I don't think they are unique in this respect. Also, why do you think the Skins only put up 6? They're certainly more capable of that. It's going to be a close physical game. I'd guess the Pats win, 20-14. But they'll have bruises to show for it, afterwards.
I cant give the 'Skins more than 6 because theyre going to be without THREE starting Olinemen for starters (C, RG, RT). NE's already got the best 3-4 line in the league. Matched up against backups really isnt fair. Santana Moss is hurt. Brandon Lloyd stinks. Cooley's good, but Thomas or Colvin can cover him. He's not used to being covered by LBs that actually match up. But Cooley will have to stay in and block more than normal once NE starts blowing up that Oline. Randel-El is nice. He could have a game, but no Washington WR has caught a TD pass yet this year. What's that all about? The 'Skins are averaging 92 yds a game rushing over the past 4 weeks since their starting linemen have fallen. Therye gonna probably play without a starting outside LB, Marcus Washington, and Id guess theyll throw a rookie in his place. Two of their top 3 corners are hurt, Smoot and Rogers, and their lead CB, Springs cant cover Moss anyway. Theyve got two nice starting safeties. Taylor and Landry are a nice tandem. But Landry is a rookie. He has no idea. NE's O line will be blowing that Dline off the ball all day. This game is going to be a as one-sided as the established spread suggests. I can definitely see a score of something like either 27-3, if NE's willing to call of the dogs, or 41-10, if theyre in a bad mood because they gave up a TD and feel 4TDs isnt enough of a cushion, or someone makes an idiot 'cheaters' remark at some point during the week.
41 -10? 27-3? So your basic argument is that the Pats will pretty much decide how many points they want to score, on this team like every other team in this league? (BTW, are you related to EOM?)
No relation. I dont have people calling for my head. These guys have pretty much scored at will on teams all year. I see no reason to expect otherwise just because a team has 2 nice safeties.
 
Do we need one of these threads each week :rolleyes:
Do we really need Pats homers complaining about anything other than totally glowing Pats threads? One of the honors an undefeated team gets is the "who's going to hand them a loss?" treatment.You'd think Pats homers would actually be used to winning at this point.
 
It just screams of 'I'm going to make this declaration so that when it finally happens, you all can pat me on the back'

Pats win, you can always say 'well, cmon, they are the Pats, I just said the Skins would have a chance, thats all'

Pats lose, you claim to be Nostradamus

 
Do we need one of these threads each week :hophead:
Do we really need Pats homers complaining about anything other than totally glowing Pats threads? One of the honors an undefeated team gets is the "who's going to hand them a loss?" treatment.You'd think Pats homers would actually be used to winning at this point.
Pats homers are intolerable. Even if they lose at Indy it won't stop.
 
Do we need one of these threads each week :hophead:
Do we really need Pats homers complaining about anything other than totally glowing Pats threads? One of the honors an undefeated team gets is the "who's going to hand them a loss?" treatment.You'd think Pats homers would actually be used to winning at this point.
Pats homers are intolerable. Even if they lose at Indy it won't stop.
I actually think it has gone full circle now, where Pats homers haters are the intolerable group :blackdot: It seems like the latest fad...
 
the Skins are probably gonna score 6 pts. NE will score atleast 7, I dont care how good the Redskins' D is hyped to be. Theyve played one AFC team - Miami. And they beat them 16-13 at home. NE led Miami 42-7 at the half. on the road. You wanna re-think this??
NE was awesome in the first half against Miami. In fact, it was the most dominant NFL performance I have ever witnessed. The Pats have yet to have a slow week in scoring. History suggests that they will. No team has ever kept up this pace, and while people may have an argument that NE is the greatest team ever, I don't think they are unique in this respect. Also, why do you think the Skins only put up 6? They're certainly more capable of that. It's going to be a close physical game. I'd guess the Pats win, 20-14. But they'll have bruises to show for it, afterwards.
I cant give the 'Skins more than 6 because theyre going to be without THREE starting Olinemen for starters (C, RG, RT). NE's already got the best 3-4 line in the league. Matched up against backups really isnt fair. Santana Moss is hurt. Brandon Lloyd stinks. Cooley's good, but Thomas or Colvin can cover him. He's not used to being covered by LBs that actually match up. But Cooley will have to stay in and block more than normal once NE starts blowing up that Oline. Randel-El is nice. He could have a game, but no Washington WR has caught a TD pass yet this year. What's that all about? The 'Skins are averaging 92 yds a game rushing over the past 4 weeks since their starting linemen have fallen. Therye gonna probably play without a starting outside LB, Marcus Washington, and Id guess theyll throw a rookie in his place. Two of their top 3 corners are hurt, Smoot and Rogers, and their lead CB, Springs cant cover Moss anyway. Theyve got two nice starting safeties. Taylor and Landry are a nice tandem. But Landry is a rookie. He has no idea. NE's O line will be blowing that Dline off the ball all day. This game is going to be a as one-sided as the established spread suggests. I can definitely see a score of something like either 27-3, if NE's willing to call of the dogs, or 41-10, if theyre in a bad mood because they gave up a TD and feel 4TDs isnt enough of a cushion, or someone makes an idiot 'cheaters' remark at some point during the week.
Rabach might be back. I disagree that Thomas or Colvin can cover Cooley, the secondary is not as banged up as you seem to think. However the Skins will still lose. The Patriots are just a much better team.
 
To Washington's credit, their team defense is tops in the league by this metric

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef.php
Interesting #s there. Im not sure what it all means, but it certainly is data. I like that Washington's D is thought so highly of. Because to this point, NE evidently hasnt really been challenged by an NFL caliber D. So, just another challenge for the Patriots. Two weeks ago it was beating an undefeated Dallas team on the road in a place where Brady had never won. Last week, it was avenging a 21-0 loss last year at Miami, where Brady was only 2-4 lifetime. This week its facing a team they havent beaten in 35 years that just so happens to have the league's 'best' defense. The hits just keep coming.
 
I am a huge skins homer but I am also realistic. The skins will lose this week to the Pats. I was at the Skins game last Sunday and I saw first hand the ineptitude of the redskins offense. The defense won the game despite the offenses best effort to give the game to the cardinals. Washington's defense is stout but the Patriots will give them trouble this week.

With how the Pats offense is clicking I don't thing the Washington defense can create the turnovers/field position necessary to help the struggling offense put points on the board. During the last 8 minutes of the game when the Cardinals inched closer to winning, the defense did its best to put the offense in position to take the ball down the field and take time off the clock. What happens? 3 and outs the rest of the game.

The Skins defense was only able to sack warner once. Brady is getting good protection from his offensive line so the skins will not be pressuring him to make rash decisions often during the game.

I would love nothing more then to see the skins win this week but I just think New England is to good at this stage of the season.

 
holy christ how did I miss this thread??are these joke threads?ps

The Redskins have the best chance of beating the Pats this week.
hahahahaha....thread should have ended w/this post.
Sigh. You're right, EOM, why should we even bother considering who's going to play the Gods of the Earth next? I'm so sick of this. Let's all just annoint the Patriots undefeated Superbowl champions and move on to 2008.
 
:dude: :sadbanana:

First off, I'm not a NE fan, but I do admire what they're doing to the NFL this year.

But seriously. You're predicting the team that BARELY beat Zona @ home last week to upset the team that is steamrolling the NFL right now?

Injuries aside (not to dismiss them for WAS) - last week the high powered 'skins managed to put up 160 TOTAL net yards (to Zona's 360 w/ their one armed qb). Campbell is 'efficient', but will implode playing catch-up when he's down 20 in the middle of the 2nd. Maybe not all his fault b/c the run game sucks and the WRs can't catch. Portis will be contained (:sigh: yet again). They just don't have the weapons needed to make this a game - even @ full strength. Hell, I doubt Indy even does.

Bold "call" I guess, but I'm confident someone else will be bumping this when the dust settles.

NE 38

WAS 17

 
The Redskins might have had a chance with a healthy offense, but they're a wreck on that side of the ball right now. The OL is in shambles and they will not be able to sustain enough drives and control the clock to keep the Pats off the field. The D might keep them in the game for a half, but they will eventually falter against the constant pressure their O puts on them with bad field position and little rest. I know on any given Sunday, things can happen, but nothing I've seen from the Skins offense has suggested they have what it takes to topple the Pats this weekend. They'd need a few turnovers and maybe throw in a special team TD to have a chance. I love the Skins, but I can't see it happening this weekend.

 
Bottom line, the only way the Skins win is if Brady goes down with an injury. Have you all been watching the first 7 weeks of the NFL season. I can only compare this to a high school team going against a pop warner squad.

Anyone that thinks the Skins have a chance to win this game has been smoking some real good STUFF.

 
To Washington's credit, their team defense is tops in the league by this metric

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef.php
Interesting #s there. Im not sure what it all means, but it certainly is data. I like that Washington's D is thought so highly of. Because to this point, NE evidently hasnt really been challenged by an NFL caliber D. So, just another challenge for the Patriots. Two weeks ago it was beating an undefeated Dallas team on the road in a place where Brady had never won. Last week, it was avenging a 21-0 loss last year at Miami, where Brady was only 2-4 lifetime. This week its facing a team they havent beaten in 35 years that just so happens to have the league's 'best' defense. The hits just keep coming.
yeah....so, to date, the "hits" to NE have come from teams with a combined record of 17-28 (only one winning team)
 
The Redskins have the best chance of beating the Pats this week.
I would hope so since they are the only team playing the Pats this week. But the old snowball has a better chance this week than Washington does against the Pats. The redskins running game has been pathetic lately with all the missing OLmen and Campbell will be pressured into a million mistakes.
 
The Redskins have the best chance of beating the Pats this week.
I would hope so since they are the only team playing the Pats this week. But the old snowball has a better chance this week than Washington does against the Pats. The redskins running game has been pathetic lately with all the missing OLmen and Campbell will be pressured into a million mistakes.
Don't start the Redskin's defense this week.
 
holy christ how did I miss this thread??are these joke threads?ps

The Redskins have the best chance of beating the Pats this week.
hahahahaha....thread should have ended w/this post.
Sigh. You're right, EOM, why should we even bother considering who's going to play the Gods of the Earth next? I'm so sick of this. Let's all just annoint the Patriots undefeated Superbowl champions and move on to 2008.
Can someone check on this guy to make sure he didn't storm off to his bedroom and hold his breath too long?
 
Not to mention, the Pats will ouut coach the Redskins by a wide margin. To win, the Redskins would have to play a perfect game. But the bumbling playcalling and horrible clock management alone would undo any chance they may have had. Throw in the banged up o-line, nope, sorry. As a skins fan, I realize we have no shot here.

 
I would like to see the Skins do all-out blitzes on the first 2 series. Bring massive pressure and hit Brady on every play. The worst that can happen is the Patriots score a TD, right? Well, if you don't bring pressure, the Patriots are going to score. So, why not do your best to hit and take out the root of the problem?

I'm not wishing harm to Brady, but noone has tried this yet. Everyone has lost by 17 or more, so what is to lose?

 
The Redskins don't stand a chance in hell!

A. The Pats technically only need to score 20 or so to win the game because the Redskins offence is so horrible!

B. NO defense can stop the Patroits...especially not the undeciplined Washington secondary that will bite on every play action and every pump fake.

This will be a destruction must like that of Miami!

 
If the Redskins had their O-line intact they could beat New England this weekend. But they don't, and they won't.

 
I think it will take a great offense, not a great defense, to beat the Pats this year.

With all the weapons they have and Brady leading the way they are going to get their points, especially when you consider Washington's lack of a pass rush. On the flip side, I don't see how Washington is going to be able to move the ball against the Patriots. Washington is a team that puts up 14-17 points against mediocre defenses so really that is a best case scenario against the Patriots, and no team will beat the Patriots with 14-17 points scored this year.

 
holy christ how did I miss this thread??are these joke threads?ps

The Redskins have the best chance of beating the Pats this week.
hahahahaha....thread should have ended w/this post.
Sigh. You're right, EOM, why should we even bother considering who's going to play the Gods of the Earth next? I'm so sick of this. Let's all just annoint the Patriots undefeated Superbowl champions and move on to 2008.
No one wants to annoint them yet, but holy god we don't need a new thread from you about the Pats every other day. You've been on board here for all of about a month and here's threads that you've started, and this doesn't even include locked or deleted ones, of which I have seen at least a couple more:-- New England, Indy and Pittsburgh - Dominant for years to come?-- The Pats will stay undefeated until they lose to....the STEELERS!!!-- Official I Hate New England Thread -- Yes, I am jealous -- Brady or Manning? -- Who is the best QB for FF?-- Comparing the big three -- New England, Indianapolis and Pittsburgh -- If Pats do go undefeated, they'll have earned it -- turing out to be the toughest schedule in the NFL-- The Patriots aren't that good -- Way overrated -- Moved: Patriots love fest -- Write here to express your joy-- The goals of New England -- A serious examination...-- Brady vs. Manning -- for the umpteenth time, who's better?-- Are the Colts as Impressive as the Patriots? -- Redskin fever! -- The best chance to stop the PatsMaybe you could just start one master "my thoughts on the patriots, updated every 45 mins" thread.
 
Sooner or later, some team is going to defense the Pats the same way the Pats shutdown the Colts passing game. Maybe a team has already tried that but didn't have the personnel to execute it properly. IMHO - the Redskins have the best secondary that Brady has faced so far. It will be interesting to see how the Pats respond IF someone can shutdown Brady - so far they haven't shown any ability or desire to run the ball effectively. Maybe a good secondary will force this. If not - the weather will soon - then we will see how complete the Pats really are.

I don't think that the Redskins can score enough points to win this game but I think their defense may force NE to finally try to run the ball.

 
The problem that nobody is speaking of is the Washington Linebackers. These guys are going to be forced into coverage and lets be honest not one of them can do a thing against anybody on NE.

The Pats are gonna eat Washington up in the middle of the field and then they will be able to do what ever they want on the outside. You see it game after game. If you do not have fast line backers and a good secondary its over Johnny.

 
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