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Redskins and others continue to ask about RB Duckett

Written by: STEVE WYCHE ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: www.ajc.com

Flowery Branch - The Falcons remained in trade talks regarding tailback T.J. Duckett Monday, with the Washington Redskins being one of the potential trade partners, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

Washington is among at least four teams that have contacted the Falcons about Duckett's availability over the past few days, the person said.

Falcons coach Jim Mora said he would like to upgrade the depth and talent at No. 3 wide receiver, backup safety and along both interior lines. Mora said Sunday that if Duckett were traded he would expect a significant return.

The Redskins were one of several teams that had a scout at Atlanta's 38-10 exhibition loss to the Green Bay Packers on Saturday, in which Duckett, who started, posted his second consecutive strong performance (five carries, 37 yards).

Washington is seeking help at running back with tailback Clinton Portis out with a shoulder injury. The Redskins struggled in running the ball this weekend against the New York Jets, who were interested in Duckett before they acquired San Francisco 49ers tailback Kevan Barlow on Sunday.

Duckett's solid outings against Green Bay and the New England Patriots, along with his work ethic in training camp, has increased his stock within the Falcons organization. Even so, trading him may be what Atlanta feels it needs to do to upgrade other positions.

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gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
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One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
 
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
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One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
 
Two Deep said:
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
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One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
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i agree.... i hope the redskins talk is just away for atl to put a little presure on division rival philly and for washington to put a little pressure on betts agent (since there have been reports of him resigning) and like Two Deep said "who the hell am i"
 
Two Deep said:
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
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One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
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As a Ducket owner, a trade with Pitt would be a wet dream.
 
Two Deep said:
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
Click to expand...
One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
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I think he could have short yardage and goalline carries in Washington, they will want to keep Portis healthy all year. They were looking to reduce Portis' load this year a little anyway. I think in Washington his upside would be that of what you could expect in Atlanta.
 
Amishboy said:
Two Deep said:
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
Click to expand...
One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
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I think he could have short yardage and goalline carries in Washington, they will want to keep Portis healthy all year. They were looking to reduce Portis' load this year a little anyway. I think in Washington his upside would be that of what you could expect in Atlanta.
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Thats what Betts is for.
 
I don't get this at all (assuming it's genuine). That said, Gibbs is always interested in depth, and like others have said Betts is a UFA after this year. Betts, though, is the real deal and is an excellent backup to have, so I'm not following the thinking here.

With all of these rumors it makes me wonder whether Portis is indeed expected to come back from this injury and play well, or whether there's an unreported injury to another RB that we don't know about.

 
Hellfire Snail said:
Two Deep said:
Couch Potato said:
gbill2004 said:
If he went to Washington, how would that impact Betts as Portis's handcuff?
Click to expand...
One thing that might be worth mentioning in all of this is that Betts will be a UFA after the season. Still, this interest by WAS surprises me. They've said nothing but good things about Betts and I'd expect them to want to re-sign him. I wouldn't think he'd be as expensive as Duckett.I'm curious who the other teams are who have shown interest in Duckett. The article mentioned 4 teams. The Jets and Redskins are a given (this was before the Barlow deal). I guess I'd assume the Steelers and Eagles were the others.
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Fantasy wise being a Duckett "owner" I hope he does not go to Wash. I'd be ok with Philly or Pitt. but really who the hell am I?
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As a Ducket owner, a trade with Pitt would be a wet dream.
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Given the success Pitt had last year with the Parker/Bus combo, I would think they would jump at the chance to get another Bus type RB. :shrug:
 
redman said:
I don't get this at all (assuming it's genuine). That said, Gibbs is always interested in depth, and like others have said Betts is a UFA after this year. Betts, though, is the real deal and is an excellent backup to have, so I'm not following the thinking here. With all of these rumors it makes me wonder whether Portis is indeed expected to come back from this injury and play well, or whether there's an unreported injury to another RB that we don't know about.
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Portis went through some drills yesterday without a sling and he apparently wasn't in any pain. Of course, he had no contact and still has to see how rehab goes, but reports were positive yesterday about him.
 
I think this has to do with a few things. I think Betts is a UFA at the end of the year and he's shown the ability to get knicked up. I can see them wanting to be covered and they have what ATL is looking for...an experienced WR that can be their #3 in David Patten. Thus, they could get to middle ground easier than one might think.

Duckett woud take GL carries, but I doubt cut into any real carries from Portis other than that. If they did get Portis, they surely would not have to rush him back until he was COMPLETELY healthy.

FF wise, I think all the Duckett owners would be mad if he ends in Washington. His value will be even less than it is today in ALT.

If ATL likes David Patten, I can see this being real soon.

 
Significant Shrinkage said:
QUEZILLA said:
bostonfred said:
Maybe Portis is more hurt than we know.
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:goodposting:
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:goodposting: You will NOT find a Portis owner that is willing to admit this. Personally, I think the injury will keep Portis very limited for the 1st couple of games. I don't think it's serious, but I don't think it's as insignificant as Portis owners would like to admit
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It's hard to say. The reports out of Redskins Park yesterday were that he practiced, albeit in non-contact drills, without a shoulder harness/brace.
 
It is possible his injury is worse than known, but i think the higher likelyhood is that he hates preseason and even if his shoulder was ok the last thing he wants is to play meaningless games.

 
The AJC is notorious for being a defacto 'promotion' department for the Falcons. I think this is propaganda simply trying to drum up any intrest whatsoever for Duckett.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
It is possible his injury is worse than known, but i think the higher likelyhood is that he hates preseason and even if his shoulder was ok the last thing he wants is to play meaningless games.
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Maybe, but there's a legit concern here in light of the injury to reduce the pounding on his shoulders where possible. Given the way that he runs with low pads, it's an understandable desire. He did after all have a bruised shoulder late last season and in the playoffs that hurt his performance.
 
For those familiar with Extremeskins:

I find it interesting that andyman posted within an hour of the Stephen Davis rumor that it was bunk and hasn't posted anything yet about Duckett.

 
dgreen said:
For those familiar with Extremeskins:I find it interesting that andyman posted within an hour of the Stephen Davis rumor that it was bunk and hasn't posted anything yet about Duckett.
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Yes, but . . . the Falcons supposedly want a veteran WR in return for Duckett, and the only WR I've heard mentioned on the 'Skins is Patten. Do you really think a Patten-for-Duckett trade is conceivable? That seems extremely unbalanced in favor of the 'Skins.
 
If this is true, and I were Duckett, I wouldn't be happy about a move to Washington. He would be right back where he is now. He wants to START. Washington already has Portis, so there's no hope of Duckett becoming the starter. Sure, he might start some games while Portis recovers, but that's about it. He'd do the exact same thing he does in Atlanta now if he were moved there.

I agree that Philly or better yet, Pittsburgh, would be the perfect spot for Duckett. Said that for two years now. Wonder why Pitt hasn't made the move...

 
Sinrman said:
I agree that Philly or better yet, Pittsburgh, would be the perfect spot for Duckett. Said that for two years now. Wonder why Pitt hasn't made the move...
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It ain't the Steelers' style to trade for starting players at skill positions.
 
redman said:
dgreen said:
For those familiar with Extremeskins:I find it interesting that andyman posted within an hour of the Stephen Davis rumor that it was bunk and hasn't posted anything yet about Duckett.
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Yes, but . . . the Falcons supposedly want a veteran WR in return for Duckett, and the only WR I've heard mentioned on the 'Skins is Patten. Do you really think a Patten-for-Duckett trade is conceivable? That seems extremely unbalanced in favor of the 'Skins.
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Patten + lesser pick for Duckett
 
Is it just me or do I hear the sound of Portis plummeting in the rankings?

He may end up representing HUGE value!

 
As an owner of Portis, Betts, Westbrook and FWP in a couple of different leagues, I'm not liking any of these rumors.

 
Call me crazy, let's have a 3some! :pics:

Moats ==> Denver

Lelie ==> Atlanta

Duckett ==> Philly

S Davis signs in Washington.

 
Patten not practicing today. Gibbs said it's because of bruised thigh. Gibbs said he likes the teams depth at RB and that they've received several trade calls the last couple weeks. However, he didn't deny Duckett rumors.

 
Warpig said:
Bizkiteer said:
Couch Potato said:
Call me crazy, let's have a 3some! :pics:

Moats ==> Denver

Lelie ==> Atlanta

Duckett ==> Philly

S Davis signs in Washington.
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WAS said they aren't interested in Davis for what it's worth.
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You can't trust a thing coaches say. Didn't the 49'ers coach tell Barlow that they weren't gonna trade him? Uh-oh...Barlow's been traded. It's always like this.
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The Extremeskins.com board has a front office insider who posts there. He has only ever posted facts, never rumors, and he's confirmed his position by posting facts before they were released to the media. If he says that the 'Skins have no interest in Davis, then I buy it. Now what's interesting is that he's posted nothing about Duckett . . .

 
Significant Shrinkage said:
I think the injury will keep Portis very limited for the 1st couple of games.
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I say either Portis is more injured than they are letting on. And all news reports so far contradict this. Or there is something more going on than appears on the surface. Washington would not pay to bring Duckett in to cover Portis for a couple games as he got back to full health. And no way I see them being able to afford (on several fronts) a healthy Portis/Betts/Duckett. I just am not seeing the logic in Washington seemingly being interested in another back if both Betts and Portis are healthy and long-term residents in DC. I mean according to Saunders, he's already got both a Priest and an LJ on his squad.
 
dgreen said:
Patten not practicing today. Gibbs said it's because of bruised thigh. Gibbs said he likes the teams depth at RB and that they've received several trade calls the last couple weeks. However, he didn't deny Duckett rumors.
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LOL, did he bruise that thigh as he was getting on the plane to Atlanta? You know how those arms get ya when you're trying to get into your seat. ;)
 
redman said:
Warpig said:
Bizkiteer said:
Couch Potato said:
Call me crazy, let's have a 3some! :pics:

Moats ==> Denver

Lelie ==> Atlanta

Duckett ==> Philly

S Davis signs in Washington.
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WAS said they aren't interested in Davis for what it's worth.
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You can't trust a thing coaches say. Didn't the 49'ers coach tell Barlow that they weren't gonna trade him? Uh-oh...Barlow's been traded. It's always like this.
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The Extremeskins.com board has a front office insider who posts there. He has only ever posted facts, never rumors, and he's confirmed his position by posting facts before they were released to the media. If he says that the 'Skins have no interest in Davis, then I buy it. Now what's interesting is that he's posted nothing about Duckett . . .
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Very true...and thus it makes one scratch their head now, doesn't it?
 
The other possible explanation for interest in Duckett from the 'Skins standpoint is that they're willing to either place Jesse Lumsden on the practice squad or release him and get Duckett to handle short-yardage to take the strain off of Portis. However, this seems like a strange deal to do with a guy in the last year of his contract, and Duckett wants to be the starter and not be stuck behind a talent like Portis.

 
Phantom Knight said:
Significant Shrinkage said:
I think the injury will keep Portis very limited for the 1st couple of games.
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I say either Portis is more injured than they are letting on. And all news reports so far contradict this. Or there is something more going on than appears on the surface. Washington would not pay to bring Duckett in to cover Portis for a couple games as he got back to full health. And no way I see them being able to afford (on several fronts) a healthy Portis/Betts/Duckett. I just am not seeing the logic in Washington seemingly being interested in another back if both Betts and Portis are healthy and long-term residents in DC. I mean according to Saunders, he's already got both a Priest and an LJ on his squad.
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Wow! Guess Saunders felt the need to add Jamal Lewis to his tool box too. I still say there must be more to the story than just Portis being gimpy the first few weeks of the season. There is something here that just does not feel right.
 
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