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The octobox is now called the most magical box on earth and is available for the slight subscription boost of only 4.99 per boxScott Hansen will be equipped with Mickey Mouse ears as he calls for the octobox.
Scott Hansen to be replaced with Dylan MulvaneyThe octobox is now called the most magical box on earth and is available for the slight subscription boost of only 4.99 per boxScott Hansen will be equipped with Mickey Mouse ears as he calls for the octobox.
Until ESPN jacks the price up to $24.99/month. And that *will* happen.Not a fan of what espn has become but this will be worth it to never hear the witching hour again
I am confused about this post. Are you saying you don’t like red zone? The witching hour is bad?Not a fan of what espn has become but this will be worth it to never hear the witching hour again
I think this deal needs to go through federal regulators, so it won't be a thing for a while.Is this effective immediately for the 2024 season? I'm curious if Redzone will stay on basic cable packages or streaming services with ESPN, ESPN2, SEC network, etc... Or will they force you to purchase this new $30/month crap that will include all those channels and maybe the ESPN+ stuff too?
And agree leave Scott Hanson alone. He's awesome. But I fear there is going to be some awful host like Mike Greenberg with a bunch of clowns surrounding him like ESPN has done to other shows. And it will be totally unwatchable.
From early reports and also you can be sure anything Disney purchases they plan on making money, look what they did to Star Wars...Is this effective immediately for the 2024 season? I'm curious if Redzone will stay on basic cable packages or streaming services with ESPN, ESPN2, SEC network, etc... Or will they force you to purchase this new $30/month crap that will include all those channels and maybe the ESPN+ stuff too?
And agree leave Scott Hanson alone. He's awesome. But I fear there is going to be some awful host like Mike Greenberg with a bunch of clowns surrounding him like ESPN has done to other shows. And it will be totally unwatchable.
And don't forget that gawd awful ticker will run to let you know the scores of ladies volleyball in the Big West, Div II men's soccer and Pro PickleballNFL Network was awesome, and NFL Redzone was the best thing they did. I can already see Redzone with full screen ads, and nonsense back and forth talk show garbage during games, because reaction/argue format is 90% of what ESPN is now. I'm sure the NFL Network and NFL Redzone weren't hurting the NFL's bottom line. There was no reason for them to not continue to just be independent.
This royally sucks. ESPN is basically garbage and has been for over a decade.
I'll quit the entire NFL before I have to listen to Ryan Clark and his nonsense or listen to Greenberg host something like this. They won't do it but Field Yates, Mike Clay, and that crew might be okay and certainly worth a shot if they keep their in-house options.From early reports and also you can be sure anything Disney purchases they plan on making money, look what they did to Star Wars...Is this effective immediately for the 2024 season? I'm curious if Redzone will stay on basic cable packages or streaming services with ESPN, ESPN2, SEC network, etc... Or will they force you to purchase this new $30/month crap that will include all those channels and maybe the ESPN+ stuff too?
And agree leave Scott Hanson alone. He's awesome. But I fear there is going to be some awful host like Mike Greenberg with a bunch of clowns surrounding him like ESPN has done to other shows. And it will be totally unwatchable.
But early reports are next season it will be in the ESPN+ package
Furthermore I'll just be as blunt as a I can...Scott Hanson is an Evangelical Christian to my knowledge
He's not just a Sunday church attendee, he's been on missionary trips to Nairobi, He's a 1% even within the church
I don't think Hanson will be for long if he even comes over to ESPN, their policies won't work with him
All good things come to an end, maybe we get one final season with him in the studio but 2026 is gonna look a lot different
So sad the NFL is doing this or allowed this to happen
Stephen A Smith will have a heavy hand in itI'll quit the entire NFL before I have to listen to Ryan Clark and his nonsense or listen to Greenberg host something like this. They won't do it but Field Yates, Mike Clay, and that crew might be okay and certainly worth a shot if they keep their in-house options.From early reports and also you can be sure anything Disney purchases they plan on making money, look what they did to Star Wars...Is this effective immediately for the 2024 season? I'm curious if Redzone will stay on basic cable packages or streaming services with ESPN, ESPN2, SEC network, etc... Or will they force you to purchase this new $30/month crap that will include all those channels and maybe the ESPN+ stuff too?
And agree leave Scott Hanson alone. He's awesome. But I fear there is going to be some awful host like Mike Greenberg with a bunch of clowns surrounding him like ESPN has done to other shows. And it will be totally unwatchable.
But early reports are next season it will be in the ESPN+ package
Furthermore I'll just be as blunt as a I can...Scott Hanson is an Evangelical Christian to my knowledge
He's not just a Sunday church attendee, he's been on missionary trips to Nairobi, He's a 1% even within the church
I don't think Hanson will be for long if he even comes over to ESPN, their policies won't work with him
All good things come to an end, maybe we get one final season with him in the studio but 2026 is gonna look a lot different
So sad the NFL is doing this or allowed this to happen
They are betting on the fantasy football industry to pay for and support this new streaming service they want to launch because all their other ventures have mostly failed in recent years."RedZone is expected to be part of the ESPN direct-to-consumer service, which launches in the coming weeks at a price of $29.99 per month. It's unclear how this deal will affect other bundles like YouTube's NFL Sunday Ticket, which includes RedZone at $420 for the season."
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ESPN buying NFL RedZone means ads, commercial-free football is probably gone forever
The blockbuster billion-dollar deal between ESPN and the NFL means seven hours of commercial-free football are probably gone forever.www.si.com
"RedZone is expected to be part of the ESPN direct-to-consumer service, which launches in the coming weeks at a price of $29.99 per month. It's unclear how this deal will affect other bundles like YouTube's NFL Sunday Ticket, which includes RedZone at $420 for the season."
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ESPN buying NFL RedZone means ads, commercial-free football is probably gone forever
The blockbuster billion-dollar deal between ESPN and the NFL means seven hours of commercial-free football are probably gone forever.www.si.com
DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
This royally sucks. ESPN is basically garbage and has been for over a decade.
More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
Possibly. That's what chatGPT said (above).ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
Fair enough on the wait and see approach. But it's not like ESPN hasn't executed a lot of bad ideas in recent years.Possibly. That's what chatGPT said (above).ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
Currently RZ is offered as part of tiered packages from Hulu & NFL Network for an additional $10-14/month. The calculus for value and additional cost isn't just the additional tier cost it's also whether or not a person would subscribe to a base service if RZ wasn't on offer from that service.
The deal also doesn't say whether or not cable providers who currently offer NFL tiers as part of their packages will still have access. Disney could still choose to license RZ to cable providers or if they will continue to offer it with their Hulu package as they do now.
There is a lot we don't know ATM. My guess is it would be a bad idea financially to put RZ exclusively on the new ESPN app.
Wreck, I tried to find this but - I know this is shocking - I got more confused the more I read. Do you know what will happen to the "normal" ESPN+? I have it in a Hulu Live bundle. I'm talking about the ESPN+ that shows a million college sports (mostly small schools or non-revenue sports) and early-morning PGA golf. Is that gonna get pulled from services like Hulu or cause those service prices to go way up.ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
Fair enough on the wait and see approach. But it's not like ESPN hasn't executed a lot of bad ideas in recent years.Possibly. That's what chatGPT said (above).ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
Currently RZ is offered as part of tiered packages from Hulu & NFL Network for an additional $10-14/month. The calculus for value and additional cost isn't just the additional tier cost it's also whether or not a person would subscribe to a base service if RZ wasn't on offer from that service.
The deal also doesn't say whether or not cable providers who currently offer NFL tiers as part of their packages will still have access. Disney could still choose to license RZ to cable providers or if they will continue to offer it with their Hulu package as they do now.
There is a lot we don't know ATM. My guess is it would be a bad idea financially to put RZ exclusively on the new ESPN app.
I have no idea what their plans are with Hulu or Disney Plus and how that bundles with ESPN plus.Wreck, I tried to find this but - I know this is shocking - I got more confused the more I read. Do you know what will happen to the "normal" ESPN+? I have it in a Hulu Live bundle. I'm talking about the ESPN+ that shows a million college sports (mostly small schools or non-revenue sports) and early-morning PGA golf. Is that gonna get pulled from services like Hulu or cause those service prices to go way up.ESPN is launching a new streaming service this fall for $30 a month. If RZ is part of that and only available through that, then it's way more expensive than it currently is. ESPN will likely use this new NFL stuff to sell their streaming service because they have nothing else to sell.More expensive than what? I never watch RZ so I don't really know how it was delivered previously. Who carried it? Was it part of Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV? Was it a standalone service? Weren't there two versions at one point?DisagreeThis changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
It wil change. It always does and it will get more expensive. It always does
Was it free?
Is it going to Disney+ exclusively? If that's the case they'll most likely use it as a loss leader to incentivize new subscribers. That's what Amazon did with their football package.
Is it going to one of Disneys broadcast properties like ABC or ESPN? Some combination of streaming and broadcast?
I know I'm in the minority here on this, but I don't really care about the RZ channel. It's sensory overload to me and I fear it's gonna get worse with this news.
Based on the info you posted above, I'd say this is true for this upcoming 2025 season. But after that I could see many people dropping it if the new set up and pricing is changed from the current one.This changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
And that's why I don't think much will change for pricing or access. Disney won't leave that kind of money on the table just to prop up an app that will likely fail regardless.Based on the info you posted above, I'd say this is true for this upcoming 2025 season. But after that I could see many people dropping it if the new set up and pricing is changed from the current one.This changes nothing. Anyone who was watching RZ channel will continue to watch RZ channel.
Hanson just got a new contract,he's staying
I hope they don't replace Scott Hanson with Stephen A. Smith, that would be a disaster
This merger is going to upset a lot of fans
yep. I laughed the whole time. Like there aren't capitalists running the "new choices." or that the "new choices" weren't being offered by the same people that were giving us the poor "old choices."We all hated cable
We all wanted A La Carte programming
Well,we got our wish
Welcome to the new normal in tv entertainment
Until the next new normal comes along.
I'm happy with it.We all hated cable
We all wanted A La Carte programming
Well,we got our wish
Welcome to the new normal in tv entertainment
Until the next new normal comes along.