Reggie Bush a game time decision (1 Viewer)

[gman06]

This guy seems to be questionable every week.

Reggie Bush-RB- Saints Nov. 23 - 2:21 pm et

Reggie Bush (shin) was withheld from Saints practice Friday and will be a game-time decision against the Panthers.

Bush was limited on Wednesday and Thursday, so it's a bad sign he didn't make enough improvement to get back to work on Friday. Saints coach Sean Payton remains optimistic: "I'm hopeful with the work Reggie has gotten, we'll have him." If Bush cannot play, Aaron Stecker would start with Pierre Thomas spelling him. Stecker would be the better fantasy flex play.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

Related: Aaron Stecker, Pierre Thomas

 

[teamroc]

Someone can't carry the load.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Someone can't carry the load.

serously... the kid is 22 yrs old... lay off; Addai / ADP / Maroney / LJ / Jacobs / Rudi / R Brown / Caddy / Westy / SA / etc have all missed time before Bush got nipped up.

 

[djjosee]

Big

 

[Franchise Playa]

Someone can't carry the load.

serously... the kid is 22 yrs old... lay off; Addai / ADP / Maroney / LJ / Jacobs / Rudi / R Brown / Caddy / Westy / SA / etc have all missed time before Bush got nipped up.

Good or bad this kid can't do anything right in some people's eyes...he plays well its not good enough...he plays bad he's overrated...he gets nicked up he can't carry the load. He can't win...

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Someone can't carry the load.

He's no Adrian Peterson in that regard.

 

[Tom Baker]

Someone can't carry the load.

serously... the kid is 22 yrs old... lay off; Addai / ADP / Maroney / LJ / Jacobs / Rudi / R Brown / Caddy / Westy / SA / etc have all missed time before Bush got nipped up.

Good or bad this kid can't do anything right in some people's eyes...he plays well its not good enough...he plays bad he's overrated...he gets nicked up he can't carry the load. He can't win...

Poor guy. All that money, all that acclaim. And now lots of mean people are pointing out that he's not even close to being as good as advertised. However will he be able to go on . . .

 

[The Man with the Plan]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that?

To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

 

[southeastjerome]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that? To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

He's the #5 RB in most PPR leagues.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that?

To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

He's the #5 RB in most PPR leagues.

So? It doesn't contradict anything that I said. He still sucks as a running back. He's just rewarded for catching a bunch of 3 yard passes. Personally I think any league where Reggie Bush is a top-5 running back is flawed. I guess as long as PPR leagues are around he'll still be overly hyped even though he's a mediocre running back.

 

[Da Guru]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that? To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

To me Bush is a small, fast little scat back, much like Warrick Dunn was in his younger days.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that?

To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

To me Bush is a small, fast little scat back, much like Warrick Dunn was in his younger days.

He may be quick but he sure isn't fast. Either that or he's doing a real good job of hiding his speed. Has he even had a run of more than 30 yards in the NFL? I don't think so.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Reggie Bush = Dave Meggett

 

[PantherPower]

man, I hope the few dynasty leagues I don't own Bush in, the owners will feel the same way as some of you haters do. I'd love to be able to trade for him. Kid is money in PPR leagues, and only getting better.

 

[philly_battery_thrower]

Reggie Bush = Dave Meggett

Eagles fan here and heard the same exact thing about Westbrook 4-5 years ago...give the buy a break.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

man, I hope the few dynasty leagues I don't own Bush in, the owners will feel the same way as some of you haters do. I'd love to be able to trade for him. Kid is money in PPR leagues, and only getting better.

I don't see how a 5.6 rec avg and a 3.6 rush avg is good. unless your playing in a 1 point per league for reception Bush =

 

[PantherPower]

well all my leagues are PPR. And Since McAllister went down, Bush has scored

21.50, 20.90, 20.10, 20.30, 18.30, 30.50, 19.40, 22.40.

It doesn't get more consistent than that. I love knowing every week he's going to score me about 20 points, or more.

 

[Tom Baker]

well all my leagues are PPR. And Since McAllister went down, Bush has scored21.50, 20.90, 20.10, 20.30, 18.30, 30.50, 19.40, 22.40. It doesn't get more consistent than that. I love knowing every week he's going to score me about 20 points, or more.

Which is why PPR is a joke. Talk about artificially elevating a guy's value. No way is last week's performance (2.2 yards per carry, no TDs, 1 lost fumble) worth 22.4 points in any league.

 

[PantherPower]

a joke?

 

[eefflrat]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

 

[greenline]

HE IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!

 

[Mik789fl]

Hi Jack!

So,getting back to the original intent of this thread,has anyone heard anything else from a more reliable source than Rotoworld about a GTD on Bush?

 

[moderated]

He may be quick but he sure isn't fast.

He's one of the fastest RB's in the NFL.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Someone can't carry the load.

FYI, the king of being questionable on the injury report is currently carrying the load and sits as the highest scoring FF RB this year.

 

[Jed]

He may be quick but he sure isn't fast.

He's one of the fastest RB's in the NFL.

We may never know till he actually breaks a run.

 

[az_prof]

Bush will be a GTD,but it isn't looking really good since he didn't practice today, Friday. We may get a chance to see what Pierre Thomas can do.

Bush misses practice

Posted by Jimmy Smith, The Times-Picayune Staff writer November 23, 2007 1:09PM

Categories: Saints

Saints tailback Reggie Bush, who practiced on a limited basis on Wednesday and Thursday despite a bruised left shin, missed work on Friday and is listed as questionable on the first official injury report of the week, the Saints said.

Bush practiced on a limited basis in Thursday's workout, after being limited on Wednesday as well.

But he did not take part in any phase of Friday's work, Coach Sean Payton said, and his availability for Sunday against the Carolina Panthers will be a game-time decision.

"He took a fair amount of the reps prior to today," Payton said of Bush, "so we'll just have to see where he's at with the shin. He's got this bruised (left) shin that we're treating and we'll see where he's at."

Should Bush not be able to play, Payton said, the workload would be divided between Aaron Stecker and rookie Pierre Thomas.

"I'm hopeful with the work Reggie has gotten, we'll have him," Payton said.

Thomas said Friday he's prepared for an increased role on Sunday if necessary.

"Whenever my time comes, I'll be ready," Thomas said. "Like every other day, I'm going through practice, going through the same routine, trying to get better every day. If my name is called on offense, I'm ready to do my part.

"When I get my opportunity I'm going to take advantage of it."

 

[Tom Baker]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

 

[PantherPower]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

GAME, SET, MATCH! (FreeBaGel you rock )

 

[gianmarco]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

Or better yet, Moe Williams a few years ago. Every week. 2 carries, 2 yds, 2 TDs.

 

[Tom Baker]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

This might be an argument for reducing the value of touchdowns. Doesn't really work as an argument for PPR. Nice try though.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

If 9 of those catches go for 1st downs, do you feel different?

 

[dotman]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that? To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

Why don't you compare the first 2 years of all of their careers and get back to me.

 

[Tom Baker]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

If 9 of those catches go for 1st downs, do you feel different?

No.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

If 9 of those catches go for 1st downs, do you feel different?

No.

Then you don't know football.

 

[Smizzy]

C'mon Reggie...My Turfwar team needs you!

 

[Intergalactic Kegger]

Someone can't carry the load.

serously... the kid is 22 yrs old... lay off; Addai / ADP / Maroney / LJ / Jacobs / Rudi / R Brown / Caddy / Westy / SA / etc have all missed time before Bush got nipped up.

Good or bad this kid can't do anything right in some people's eyes...he plays well its not good enough...he plays bad he's overrated...he gets nicked up he can't carry the load. He can't win...

For a lot of people, they expected the ultimate RB considering the enormous endorsement deals he got before ever playing a down. A lot of people will resent it and think maybe he should give back some of that money if he can't live up to the ultimate hype.

 

[Intergalactic Kegger]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that? To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

To me Bush is a small, fast little scat back, much like Warrick Dunn was in his younger days.

He might be another Eric Metcalf, who made some fantastic plays in his youth but never could truly make it as a running back. Eventually Metcalf moved to WR. Reggie Bush might be best as a WR.

 

[djjosee]

C'mon Reggie...My team needs you to sit this one out!

Fixed

 

[Traders2001]

Reggie Bush = Dave Meggett

Eagles fan here and heard the same exact thing about Westbrook 4-5 years ago...give the buy a break.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

I feel the same way... it would drive me nutz when an RB like Westy or Tiki or DD would only have 6 TD for the yr; but they would be in the top 10 of RB because they get a pt for each little meaningless dump off. Currently in PPR: Bush is #5. I really like the Kid; but even I can admit thats high.Currently in my Scoring system: Bush is #11 (.2 per ru attempt, .5 PPR for RBs, 10 yds per pt, 6 TDs) In my system, #11 feels more natural where he should be ranked instead of #5.

 

[Tom Baker]

Not a Bush owner here.....Having said that, what is so wrong with PPR leagues? it's just like regular NFl, Rb's don't just have value as RB's, the ones that can do more, and be versatile are more valuable, and they are every bit as important to a team as a Rb that rushes for 1500 yards 10 TD's and doesn't catch a ball. Don't like it? tough, keep playing your non PPR leagues and pat yourself on the back for being manly. Here's to you "mister non point per reception fantasy football player" you are a ....Real man of genious.

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

If 9 of those catches go for 1st downs, do you feel different?

No.

Then you don't know football.

Yet in a PPR system a running back who catches 11 one-yard passes (even if none goes for a first down) is worth more than a running back who rushes 20 times for 100 yards (even if every rush goes for a first down). Thanks for playing.

 

[gman06]

Let's get away from how bad or good a PPR league is or how bad or good everyone thinks Reggie Bush is. Post any relevant news if Reggie Bush is going to play or not, because I know he is better than my alternatives of Justin Fargas and Aaron Stecker.

 

[jesse]

We should just lock this thread and start a new one, Lord knows this one has been polluted way beyond repair. It sucks to have to shuffel through all the lame reply's that have nothing to do with whether he plays or not. WE NEED UPDATES, NOT HI-JACKS!!!

 

[djjosee]

WE NEED UPDATES, NOT HI-JACKS!!!

 

[moose162]

well all my leagues are PPR. And Since McAllister went down, Bush has scored21.50, 20.90, 20.10, 20.30, 18.30, 30.50, 19.40, 22.40. It doesn't get more consistent than that. I love knowing every week he's going to score me about 20 points, or more.

OK, that doesn't help the thread AT ALL. It is not related to his injury and makes no argument to his effectiveness as an NFL running back.

 

[Steel Town]

Does anyone else think the McAllister injury hurt Bush's value this year? Granted he is getting more touches, but Deuce seemed to hammer away and let Reggie take advantage of a tired defensive front later in games.

 

[southeastjerome]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that?

To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

He's the #5 RB in most PPR leagues.

So? It doesn't contradict anything that I said. He still sucks as a running back. He's just rewarded for catching a bunch of 3 yard passes. Personally I think any league where Reggie Bush is a top-5 running back is flawed. I guess as long as PPR leagues are around he'll still be overly hyped even though he's a mediocre running back.

No need to get on the defensive man, I was not accusing you of being contraditory. Just saying he's not a disappointment in fantasy PPR leagues. I'll reserve judgment on his career since this is only his 2nd season, he's shown flashes and his offensive line's run blocking has a lot of room for improvement. I'd love to see what he could do behind a guard like Shawn Andrews or Hutch.

 

[Keith Lewis]

He's nothing special. Everything he's doing this season he did last season. He still can't run and catches a bunch of dump passes. Reggie Bush doesn't even average 4 yards a carry. What excuse do the apologist have for that?

To think some people actually compared this bum to Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber.

He's the #5 RB in most PPR leagues.

So? It doesn't contradict anything that I said. He still sucks as a running back. He's just rewarded for catching a bunch of 3 yard passes. Personally I think any league where Reggie Bush is a top-5 running back is flawed. I guess as long as PPR leagues are around he'll still be overly hyped even though he's a mediocre running back.

No need to get on the defensive man, I was not accusing you of being contraditory. Just saying he's not a disappointment in fantasy PPR leagues. I'll reserve judgment on his career since this is only his 2nd season, he's shown flashes and his offensive line's run blocking has a lot of room for improvement. I'd love to see what he could do behind a guard like Shawn Andrews or Hutch.

Why don't you two take your squabble to PMS and not subject us to your anger issues which so far has had zero to do with the topic at hand.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I have no problem with Bush getting points for his receiving yardage. Maybe you can explain, though, how his 70 yards on 12 dump offs is equal to a real running back putting up 130 yards and a touchdown.

The same way that when Corey Dillon would have 10 carries for 12 yards and two touchdowns it was worth the same as the guy who carried for 132 yards?

I feel the same way... it would drive me nutz when an RB like Westy or Tiki or DD would only have 6 TD for the yr; but they would be in the top 10 of RB because they get a pt for each little meaningless dump off. Currently in PPR: Bush is #5. I really like the Kid; but even I can admit thats high.Currently in my Scoring system: Bush is #11 (.2 per ru attempt, .5 PPR for RBs, 10 yds per pt, 6 TDs) In my system, #11 feels more natural where he should be ranked instead of #5.

PPR should NOT under any circumstance include RB's