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Reggie Bush agrees to six year deal (1 Viewer)
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Thanks Aspot. Real curious to see the terms of this one.
Hawkeyeskin
Footballguy
YES!!!! 
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Wow.
Color me suprised.
Color me suprised.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Hmmmm not good news for Deuce owners
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Nice
Bush agrees to terms with Saints
By Jimmy Smith
Staff writer
JACKSON, MISS. - Saints first-round draft choice Reggie Bush agreed to terms on a five-year contract Saturday night, with a one-year option, meaning he will likely report to camp late today or first thing Monday morning, a source familiar with the negotiations said.
The agreement ends a two-day holdout.
Bush’s deal likely will be in the neighborhood of $60 million with just more than $26 million guaranteed.
Earlier Saturday, a source familiar with the negotiations said the two sides were close after studying the terms of the contract Tennessee draft pick Vince Young signed with the Titans on Thursday.
Bush’s agent Joel Segal and the Saints front office saw the contract Young signed in Tennessee and eliminated doubts that Young’s first-year agent, Major Adams, had somehow negotiated a bad deal.
“But it’s as it has been stated,” the source said. “They’re getting there (in the negotiations). It’s a little better. That’s what they were waiting for and now that they’ve seen it, they can go off the two contracts. Now they’ve just got to come in at the right number.”
Houston signed first draft pick Mario Williams to a five-year, $54 million deal the night before the NFL Draft, including $26.5 million in guaranteed money.
A league source said Saturday that it’s possible Williams could earn a total of $62 million over the course of his contract.
On Thursday, Young, the third player chosen overall, signed a five-year contract that could be worth $58 million, including his guaranteed cash.
That puts Bush, the second pick in the draft, directly between the $26.5 and $25.740 figures in terms of guaranteed cash and possibly with a contract that could total $60 million.
It’s likely he’ll command something more than $26 million, but, because of the unwritten code of the slotting system, will have to settle for less than Williams’ $26.5.
“I would hope that by Monday or Tuesday, Reggie would be there,” the source said. “The good news for Reggie is that Vince Young’s contract is a good one. That’s more important than anything. With the slotting system the way it is, you’d think this was now a no-brainer.”
Bush, who entered the second day of his holdout by missing both of Saturday’s workouts here at Millsaps College, remains in Los Angeles, working out daily and awaiting the outcome of the talks between Segal and Saints senior football administrator Russ Ball.
Segal did not return telephone calls on Saturday.
Saints general manager Mickey Loomis declined comment on Saturday.
Saints head coach Sean Payton said after Saturday’s second practice, when asked if he’d like to see Bush in camp soon, “What do you think?” Payton laughed.
“I think both sides are working hard to get it resolved, and I think sooner than later. I think everyone of us, if you’re a Saints’ fan, you’d want that. Certainly if you’re a head coach of the Saints, you’d want that.”
Of the first seven picks in the 2006 draft, only Bush remains unsigned. In all, nine of the 32 first round draft picks have not yet come to terms.
By Jimmy Smith
Staff writer
JACKSON, MISS. - Saints first-round draft choice Reggie Bush agreed to terms on a five-year contract Saturday night, with a one-year option, meaning he will likely report to camp late today or first thing Monday morning, a source familiar with the negotiations said.
The agreement ends a two-day holdout.
Bush’s deal likely will be in the neighborhood of $60 million with just more than $26 million guaranteed.
Earlier Saturday, a source familiar with the negotiations said the two sides were close after studying the terms of the contract Tennessee draft pick Vince Young signed with the Titans on Thursday.
Bush’s agent Joel Segal and the Saints front office saw the contract Young signed in Tennessee and eliminated doubts that Young’s first-year agent, Major Adams, had somehow negotiated a bad deal.
“But it’s as it has been stated,” the source said. “They’re getting there (in the negotiations). It’s a little better. That’s what they were waiting for and now that they’ve seen it, they can go off the two contracts. Now they’ve just got to come in at the right number.”
Houston signed first draft pick Mario Williams to a five-year, $54 million deal the night before the NFL Draft, including $26.5 million in guaranteed money.
A league source said Saturday that it’s possible Williams could earn a total of $62 million over the course of his contract.
On Thursday, Young, the third player chosen overall, signed a five-year contract that could be worth $58 million, including his guaranteed cash.
That puts Bush, the second pick in the draft, directly between the $26.5 and $25.740 figures in terms of guaranteed cash and possibly with a contract that could total $60 million.
It’s likely he’ll command something more than $26 million, but, because of the unwritten code of the slotting system, will have to settle for less than Williams’ $26.5.
“I would hope that by Monday or Tuesday, Reggie would be there,” the source said. “The good news for Reggie is that Vince Young’s contract is a good one. That’s more important than anything. With the slotting system the way it is, you’d think this was now a no-brainer.”
Bush, who entered the second day of his holdout by missing both of Saturday’s workouts here at Millsaps College, remains in Los Angeles, working out daily and awaiting the outcome of the talks between Segal and Saints senior football administrator Russ Ball.
Segal did not return telephone calls on Saturday.
Saints general manager Mickey Loomis declined comment on Saturday.
Saints head coach Sean Payton said after Saturday’s second practice, when asked if he’d like to see Bush in camp soon, “What do you think?” Payton laughed.
“I think both sides are working hard to get it resolved, and I think sooner than later. I think everyone of us, if you’re a Saints’ fan, you’d want that. Certainly if you’re a head coach of the Saints, you’d want that.”
Of the first seven picks in the 2006 draft, only Bush remains unsigned. In all, nine of the 32 first round draft picks have not yet come to terms.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Sidewinder
Footballguy
Expect a trade with StL any day now, and the pick they get for him to go to SD for Donnie Edwards.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Stick a fork in McAllister, He's quite done now.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
GO REGGIE GO REGGIE, IT"S YOUR BIRTHDAY GET BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stick a fork in McAllister, He's quite done now.
Ok, yeah right. McAllister is a long way from done. If anything Bush helps him recover and play without overextending himself, IMO. Yes, D.M. might be traded next year, IF Bush becomes Faulk2, but this year my money is on DM getting slightly more FF points then Bush. Next year, IF DM stays healthy, DM outscores Busch in FF and real NFL football on another team. Don't forget what kind of stud DM has proven himself to be on mediocre, at best, teams.
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metoo
Footballguy
Who knows at this point. I don't think this is fishing. RB's are becoming a dime a dozen in the NFL. 2007 a new group on RB's will enter the NFL. How valueable will a RB who can't stay healthy be. If he does stay healthy, most teams will look at him as RBBC back. Just myStick a fork in McAllister, He's quite done now.
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Snot Bubbler
Footballguy
I'd like to hear from all those guys who said that Reggie would never sign with N.O. So many people said that the best Saints fans could hope for was a lengthy holdout. Bush held out for two days. Two Days. I don't know the numbers, but I bet half of the first round picks are still unsigned.
Kudos to the Saints front office and Bush's agent in getting this deal done so quickly.
As a Saints fan, I'm stoked.
Kudos to the Saints front office and Bush's agent in getting this deal done so quickly.
As a Saints fan, I'm stoked.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
WOOOHOOOO!!!
(bush owner in two leagues)
(bush owner in two leagues)
easy like sunday morning
Footballguy
9 of the top 32 are unsigned.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I was one of 'em. Congrats Snot Bubbler, this is a huge day for Saints fans. You've got a lot of fun ahead of you.
As a football fan I'm happy to see Bush signed,sealed and delivered. I am a bit surprised that we haven't heard Joel Segal crowing about the wonderful contract that he negotiated for Reggie. Could it be that it's not that wonderful (relatively speaking) compared to Williams and Young? Texas has no state income tax,Tennessee taxes dividend and interest income only while Louisiana has a 6% state income tax on (net?) incomes over $25,000. Let's compare only the guaranteed portions of the contracts and assume that Bush gets the same $26.5M as Williams,and Young gets $25.7M. Initially Bush and Williams would be $800K ahead of Young but once the 6% Louisiana state income tax ($1.5M) is deducted from the Bush total his new total is actually $25M and drops him to third place. You and I could probably live with this minor slight but for many pro athletes respect is everything. Bush thought he would be drafted 1st, got drafted 2nd and now will have less take home pay than the 3rd pick. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Joel tries to explain how Williams and Young will have more guaranteed money in their pockets AFTER paying their agents fees than Bush will have BEFORE paying Segal his fees. I wonder how long it will be before Reggie lets the Saints know that he's feeling unloved and disrespected.
I guess I'm just completely dumb to this whole Reggie Bush thing. I can't really understand how people think that Bush will have that big of an impact this season. OK, he'll line up at WR some, spell Deuce when needed, but barring an injury to Deuce really how many touches can Bush have?
I just don't get it. Bush is a rookie on a team with a All-pro caliber RB that has good receiving skills. So not that he wont overtake Deuce next season due to DM gets traded or something, but in 2006 I just don't see how Bush will be that valuable FF-wise.
Currently, I have Bush ranked 37th in my standard scoring league and 31st in my ppr league. I could see him top 25-30 at the highest, unless DM gets injured.
Could someone explain to me why they think Bush will have a considerable impact on FF this season?
I just don't get it. Bush is a rookie on a team with a All-pro caliber RB that has good receiving skills. So not that he wont overtake Deuce next season due to DM gets traded or something, but in 2006 I just don't see how Bush will be that valuable FF-wise.
Currently, I have Bush ranked 37th in my standard scoring league and 31st in my ppr league. I could see him top 25-30 at the highest, unless DM gets injured.
Could someone explain to me why they think Bush will have a considerable impact on FF this season?
Packer 7 i guess my counter to your post would go like this-
How long has it been since McAllister played a full season?
How many RBs have come back from major knee surgery the following season and had good years?
When is the last time a football prospect came into the league that was graded as high as Reggie Bush?
How long has it been since McAllister played a full season?
How many RBs have come back from major knee surgery the following season and had good years?
When is the last time a football prospect came into the league that was graded as high as Reggie Bush?
EBF
Footballguy
I think you're making a common mistake, which is looking at this team and seeing Deuce as the 1 and Bush as the 2. In reality, I think this will prove to be a 1A and 1B situation, with both players seeing 10-15 carries per week. Bush has the skills to translate those touches into big points, particularly when you factor in his receiving skills. I think it's highly likely that he'll be a top 20 RB in PPR leagues, and if Payton takes the kid gloves off then he could really surprise.
Winston Smith
Footballguy
(tears of joy from a Saints fan)
About Deuce, when he took over the job in 2002, he played in everygame except 3 till 2004. In '05 he got hurt enough to end his season. Despite what people think about Deuce he's been decently durable. He's gained 1000+ yds in each of those season '02 - '04. About coming back from an injury, I can't really speak to, but I'd say the list is short of RBs who have great seasons coming back from that kind of injury. However, he has got experience in the NFL which Bush doesn't. Again I'm not saying in 2007 Bush wont be the feature back in NO, but I can't believe, given a guy's past history like Deuce that so many people are writing him off. The same thing is happening in NE. Dillon is still the man despite what people think. +--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 2001 nor | 16 | 16 91 5.7 1 | 15 166 11.1 1 |
| 2002 nor | 15 | 325 1388 4.3 13 | 47 352 7.5 3 |
| 2003 nor | 16 | 351 1641 4.7 8 | 69 516 7.5 0 |
| 2004 nor | 14 | 269 1074 4.0 9 | 34 228 6.7 0 |
| 2005 nor | 5 | 93 335 3.6 3 | 17 117 6.9 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 66 | 1054 4529 4.3 34 | 182 1379 7.6 4 |
As far as Bush being graded so highly coming into the league, that's someone's opinion. Those "people" have been wrong as many times as they've been right. At this moment we don't know if Bush will be awful, good, or great in the NFL. My guess is great, but we don't know.
Football Menace
Footballguy
It never ends, does it? First he wouldn't sign or he'd be out until into the season. And now, he's going to feel that he's unloved.Could you guys please let us Louisianans feel a bit of joy. All this negativity is getting old and has been proven untrue.
Football Menace
Footballguy
We have another one.I'd take Reggie Bush over Duece every single day, and twice on Sundays. I've seen every Saints game for at least the last 15 years. And let me tell you, to me, Duece isn't an elite RB. He's good, but far from elite. It seems like every time Duece gets a carry he's always stumbling toward the line of scrimmage. I can't tell you how many times I've seen him go down without being touched. He hits the hole in slow motion, and it takes him too long to accelerate. I'd much rather have had a "mind-healthy" Ricky Williams than Duece McAllister.
Sidewinder
Footballguy
Utter nonsense. Since when do you hear the media or the athletes talk about the "after taxes" value of a contract ? Never.
streamkeeper
Footballguy
Now we will finally get to see him on the field. This debate is about to have some dose of reality. I am interested to sit back and watch him ON THE FIELD.
We have another one.
I'd take Reggie Bush over Duece every single day, and twice on Sundays. I've seen every Saints game for at least the last 15 years. And let me tell you, to me, Duece isn't an elite RB. He's good, but far from elite. It seems like every time Duece gets a carry he's always stumbling toward the line of scrimmage. I can't tell you how many times I've seen him go down without being touched. He hits the hole in slow motion, and it takes him too long to accelerate. I'd much rather have had a "mind-healthy" Ricky Williams than Duece McAllister.
I'm not saying that Bush is < Deuce McAllister for an entire NFL career. My point is that in 2006 Bush is not good enough to overtake McAllister unless some severe injury is involved. My question is more to the point that I'm seeing in too many drafts, Bush going 3rd round or earlier. To me it's automatically mailing in 2006 in FF if you do that b/c there are many other RBs that have much more value than Bush for '06. I just don't understand why people would draft Bush before McAllister or 90% of the other RBs in the NFL. If someone can show me how they think Bush is > than Deuce in 2006 then I'm open to discussion, but I can't seem find one myself. I've even seen posts that say Bush will score equal to more FF points in 2006 than Deuce. I just can't see it.
Personally about NO, you guys are getting better everyday. I think NO has potential to sneak a Wildcard this season, but it wont be with Bush as RB, JMO.
lol. Believe it or not, no. Just I'm VERY active in my dynasty leagues, and did several trades to get the first pick. Not to brag, but in the 4 leagues i have Bush in, I have pretty strong squads.League 1-Rough 2005 eh?WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO! (Bush owner in 4 dynasty leagues)
Brees, Rivers, Brunell, Schaub
Portis, Benson, T.Jones, Bush, Gado, Betts
Steve Smith, S.Moss, Evans, C.Jackson, Curtis, Williamson, Rogers
Watson, Miller
Panthers
League 2-
Delhomme, Rivers, Brunell, Campbell, Pennington
Portis, Ronnie Brown, Bush, Perry
S.Smith, Randy Moss, S.Moss, Coles, Williamson, Mike Williams, B.Marshall
Cooley, Miller
Skins, Bills
Then the other 2 leagues were brand new dynasty leagues where I took Bush at 1.11 and 2.1. All these leagues are 1 pt per reception, so i felt he was worth the early pick!
guderian
Footballguy
Could you guys please let us Louisianans feel a bit of joy. All this negativity is getting old and has been proven untrue.
First it was "Tagliabue is going to engineer some trade to get Bush to a NY team", then it was "Bush will never play for the Saints, if he's drafted he'll sit out the year and re-enter next year". Then "he's going to hold out for a huge contract and miss most of the preseason/season." Now that he's signed "Bush is going to feel dis-respected because of state taxes" without mention of the fact that NFL players pay taxes in the states where the games are PLAYED not necessarily where the team is HQ'd. Also, the property taxes are lower in NO than the other cities, but this was a bogus argument in the first place, why am I arguing against it.
Could you guys please let us Louisianans feel a bit of joy. All this negativity is getting old and has been proven untrue.
The next thing you will hear is...."Well VY is getting paid in new $100 bills where as Reggie Bush is not"
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