Reggie Bush Update (1 Viewer)

[DeaLerZ]

When asked about Reggie Bush Tuesday, coach Tony Sparano said, "I would think he's going to have the most touches and the most carries."

This is mere confirmation after Daniel Thomas face-planted in his rookie training camp. Bush is going to start and be the primary runner in the early part of the season. We're skeptical that he'll be able to sustain health and effectiveness in that role, but with 16-20 touches weekly Bush figures to be a PPR asset. Aug 30 - 12:04 PM

Per Rotoworld

Now if he can just stay healthy he will be huge in PPR leagues this year.. the Dolphins always have a good running game verhead:

 

[Doug B]

We're skeptical that he'll be able to sustain health and effectiveness in that role ...

No kidding.Well, Bush was doing a better job of going north-&-south in 2009-10 than he had earlier in his career. So he's not losing much yardage by dancing around anymore. Problem is he's still too easy to bring down. I am curious about how he does in Miami.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.

That's our Reggie.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Reggie will be the quintessential boom/bust guy in 2011. Assuming he stays healthy (that will be typed a lot in this thread), he's going to post some clunkers and he's going to throw up a handful of games with monster stats.

If you can still get him late, then he makes the PERFECT flex guy in PPR leagues (where you can afford the clunkers and shoot for the upside).

Highly possible that he wears down or gets hurt and eventually gives way to an improving Daniel Thomas (can the kid possibly be THAT bad? I haven't watched him enough to know). But I'm betting ends up a pleasant surprise for everyone who took a chance on him in early drafts.

 

[baconisgood]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.That's our Reggie.

I believe that line includes an 8 yard loss when he fell on his QBs fumble.

 

[Slapdash]

I think Bush could have a big year. He is going to get a shot to be the main ball carrier, Thomas has not looked good so far IMO.

 

[Otis]

Stupid value here. Bush could win fantasy leagues for a lot of folks this year.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.

That's our Reggie.

I believe that line includes an 8 yard loss when he fell on his QBs fumble.

Here's his rushing line:1-10-MIA13 (6:44) R.Bush right end to MIA 10 for -3 yards (M.Bennett).

2-13-MIA10 (6:11) R.Bush right guard pushed ob at MIA 15 for 5 yards (C.Grimm).

3-8-MIA15 (5:41) (Shotgun) C.Henne sacked at MIA 6 for -9 yards (D.Watson). FUMBLES (D.Watson), recovered by MIA-R.Bush at MIA 3. R.Bush to MIA 3 for no gain (M.Bennett).

1-16-MIA6 (2:33) R.Bush left guard to MIA 7 for 1 yard (C.Grimm).

2-2-TB35 (10:12) R.Bush left guard to TB 36 for -1 yards (G.Hayes).

2-1-TB1 (5:55) R.Bush right end to TB 4 for -3 yards (F.Okam).

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/playbyplay/NFL_20110827_MIA@TB

I cheered as loudly as anyone for Reggie in the Dome, but somewhere there is a stat that Reggie seemed to be near the top in every year and that is/was percentage or number of times tackled at or behind the line.

The comment above about how he had become a better North/South runner in 2009-10 is true but there were still plenty South's in there.

I will say this FOR Reggie: if he is anywhere *near* the 1st Down or goal line marker he gets to it... if he's running towards the sidelines. Straight ahead, not so much.

 

[Doug B]

The comment above about how he had become a better North/South runner in 2009-10 is true but there were still plenty South's in there.

I should have made clear: Bush got better, but he didn't get to the point of being above-average. Not in New Orleans, anyway. Maybe if he's continued to make progress, he will be a middle-of-the-road N-S runner in 2011 ... but I really want to see him do it over an extended period before forming a new opinion.

I will say this FOR Reggie: if he is anywhere *near* the 1st Down or goal line marker he gets to it... if he's running towards the sidelines. Straight ahead, not so much.

Goal line, too. He doesn't lack in determination. EDIT: I see you mentioned the goal line

 

[DrapedInVelvet]

Go look in the game thread for an explanation of his day. He was running much better than the stats illustrate and even got a goal-line carry. If he stays healthy he is in line for a big year. He looks really, really good.

 

[Grahamburn]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.That's our Reggie.

You should watch the games. That stat line is not at all indicative of how Reggie actually looked, and obviously doesn't include the two receptions for twenty or so yards he had. Bush also had two very nice runs wiped out by penalties.Regardless, Reggie Bush touching the ball 20 times a game makes him a valuable fantasy asset in any format.

 

[Otis]

Go look in the game thread for an explanation of his day. He was running much better than the stats illustrate and even got a goal-line carry. If he stays healthy he is in line for a big year. He looks really, really good.

Bingo.

 

[joffer]

Wouldn't draft him with a ten foot pole

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.That's our Reggie.

You should watch the games. That stat line is not at all indicative of how Reggie actually looked, and obviously doesn't include the two receptions for twenty or so yards he had. Bush also had two very nice runs wiped out by penalties.Regardless, Reggie Bush touching the ball 20 times a game makes him a valuable fantasy asset in any format.

Ok, I have to admit I did not watch the Fins exhibition game. No shame there.However I have seen a LOT of Reggie.And with that stat line I am pretty sure I have seen *that* game from Reggie at least many a time before.Wishing him, his FF owners and Fins fans the best though.

 

[Dancing Bear]

As a part-time back he finished a 16-game season exactly once; his first year.

He has NEVER had a yards / carry better than his peers on the same team! With the same O-Line, plays and execution. I do not believe his body of work supports the fact that he is grasping what to do in the NFL any better than before ...

His ypc was only 4.00 in 2010, and it's only 4.07 for his career.

Everybody is SO AMAZED by his pass-catching ability. MUSH.

He has a horrible yards / reception for his career compared with both his peers on the Saints and the other RB's of the NFL; in fact his ypr is PEDESTRIAN! He is more than 0.5 ypr lower than most RB's and he is at least 1.0 ypr lower than the Top 5 RB's! In fact his ypr is only better than R. Grant, C. Benson, M. Lynch, R. Mathews and M. Turner ... Hardly company to be amazed by ...

The "HYPE TRAIN" for Reggie Bush has crashed. New location yes. New outcome absolutely not. Expect the same mediocre performance; in fact Henne & Co. will hardly create fear in the Defense like Brees & Co. ...

 

[Jaysports]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.That's our Reggie.

You should watch the games. That stat line is not at all indicative of how Reggie actually looked, and obviously doesn't include the two receptions for twenty or so yards he had. Bush also had two very nice runs wiped out by penalties.Regardless, Reggie Bush touching the ball 20 times a game makes him a valuable fantasy asset in any format.

Sparano even said after the game that the line play was NOT good. I think he could have a McCoy type season, same style of play imo.

 

[BallparkFrank]

With a draft still to come, am I wrong for thinking that the Reggie Bush buzz is simply creating Daniel Thomas value in the long run? I know he's had a brutal camp, but....

 

[Funkley]

With a draft still to come, am I wrong for thinking that the Reggie Bush buzz is simply creating Daniel Thomas value in the long run? I know he's had a brutal camp, but....

Nope, not wrong.

 

[solorca]

Daniel Thomas was just dropped in my league, three days after someone drafted him in the 9th round. I'm strongly considering dropping either Andre Roberts or Rashad Jennings to pick him up.

Dolphins fans, is there any hope that he's worth having this season?

 

[Todem]

Stupid value here. Bush could win fantasy leagues for a lot of folks this year.

Took him 6.7 in my redraft last Friday. Stupid value in PPR this year.

 

[Todem]

Daniel Thomas was just dropped in my league, three days after someone drafted him in the 9th round. I'm strongly considering dropping either Andre Roberts or Rashad Jennings to pick him up. Dolphins fans, is there any hope that he's worth having this season?

No way I would drop Jennings for him but Andre Roberts....yeah debatable.We all know Reggie is not durable so having Thomas could prove valuable. Yes Thomas has looked average at the very best.....but he is a rookie with zero mini camps and no off-season program.....he will find his footing at some point and might be a valuable pick up later in the season. He is talented and if Reggie were to go down he will be the benefactor if he can get going.Don't sleep on Lex Hillard though as a very deep and sneaky sleeper as a handcuff to Bush if Thomas ends up being dreadful.

 

[bonesman]

With a draft still to come, am I wrong for thinking that the Reggie Bush buzz is simply creating Daniel Thomas value in the long run? I know he's had a brutal camp, but....

Maybe this news that he's set to have the most carries and touches will move him up the ADP ladder but in all my drafts so far Thomas has been selected before Bush.

 

[solorca]

With a draft still to come, am I wrong for thinking that the Reggie Bush buzz is simply creating Daniel Thomas value in the long run? I know he's had a brutal camp, but....

Maybe this news that he's set to have the most carries and touches will move him up the ADP ladder but in all my drafts so far Thomas has been selected before Bush.

I've had two drafts over the past few days, and Bush has went sooner in both. In the first, Bush went in the 8th and Thomas in the 9th. Last night, Bush went in the 7th and Thomas in the 10th.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think Bush could have a big year. He is going to get a shot to be the main ball carrier, Thomas has not looked good so far IMO.

Hey Slap,Agree that Thomas does not look good at all. In fact I would say that he could easily be a bust. he is one of the worst looking rookies at RB drafts that high that I have seen in some time. I'm not sure what the coaches thought they saw but he looks awful to this point. That said go and look at Reggie's numbers in an offensive explosive system with great talent around him, a good front office and coaching staff, and he was a turd for the most part. I just cannot see him staying healthy all year and he was running East West in the last game, not a good sign.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

While reading the box scores in the local Picayune (yes some people still do that) I could not help but notice that Reggie just had a sparkling 5 for -1 exhibition night running the ball.That's our Reggie.

You should watch the games. That stat line is not at all indicative of how Reggie actually looked, and obviously doesn't include the two receptions for twenty or so yards he had. Bush also had two very nice runs wiped out by penalties.Regardless, Reggie Bush touching the ball 20 times a game makes him a valuable fantasy asset in any format.

Sparano even said after the game that the line play was NOT good. I think he could have a McCoy type season, same style of play imo.

McCoy is pretty damn good at running the ball.Reggie has yet to be that.To me the most dangerous thing I used to see Bush do as a Saint was split out wide and haul tail downfield, it made for mismatch hell for the defense and often Brees would zing one to him deep, anywhere from 15 yards and long. the best example of that was the 06 NFC Championship when Reggie beat the whole CHi defense to the end zone on a 90 yard streak pattern, it was beautiful, truly. I just don't remember them doing that much with him 2009-10, maybe not at all actually. My concern there would be that they lost faith in his speed, or maybe that when they did put him out there he just did not have the same speed anymore. That also showed up in his dwindling punt return averages post 2008.I do think he's a major plus for the MIA offense though. There are not a lot of those guys around (Sproles, Washington are two others I can think of).

 

[Dancing Bear]

That said go and look at Reggie's numbers in an offensive explosive system with great talent around him, a good front office and coaching staff, and he was a turd for the most part. I just cannot see him staying healthy all year and he was running East West in the last game, not a good sign.

He was worse than a turd for New Orleans!

And it will be worse in Miami.

Marshall will get double-teamed all game long, and Bush will be held to ~3.6 yards per rush for the 8 or 9 games he is healthy and then what?

At least with the possible ploy of the "wildcat formation" defenses were kept somewhat honest ... This is going to get ugly real fast; David Carr ugly!

 

[Ghost Rider]

Stupid value in PPR this year.

Not if he doesn't do much on the ground or a lot with those passes. I mean, let's say he catches 70 balls and you want to compare him to a guy that only catches 20..that difference of 50 comes about to about 3 fantasy points per week. And odds are that any RB you would draft around the same time who is only gonna catch 20 or so balls is gonna do a lot more on the ground (which is why he is being drafted at that spot) than Bush will. I suspect Bush will do the usual: have a few very good (or even great) games, miss a few games due to injury, and have a whole lot of duds. The best scenario for a FF owner is getting him as your number 3 RB (in a start 2 RB league where a 3rd can be your flex) and hoping that the weeks you kind of have to start him are the weeks he does well.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Why are people hating on him? They are going to give him 10+ carries. He's going to get around 5 catches a game. In a ppr there's nothing wrong with him being your flex. I drafted him in the 7th round as my rb4. I can't imagine that being a bad pick. Even if he busts or gets hurt, it's just a smart value pick to take because of good ppr potential. You're not going to get many 60+ catch running backs in round 7 or later. They are going to try to give him goal line too? Icing.

 

[baconisgood]

There is some revisionist history going on here regarding Reggie Bush. His first 3 years in NO he averaged

15.2 touches and 81.7 yards per game

19.2 touches and 83.2

15.8 touches and 84.4

He scored 20 TDs (24 if you get credit for kick return TDs in your league) in 38 games- >0.5 per game- for basically 11.5 points per game in Non PPR.

In PPR he jumps to ~17 per game which is top 12 RB over 16 games most years.

Obviously there are questions about how many TDs he can produce in a significantly worse offense and if his body can hold up to that kind of work load. But to be clear the kind of workload that he is being touted as getting by his HC definately gives him the potential to be a low end #1 RB.

 

[baconisgood]

Stupid value in PPR this year.

Not if he doesn't do much on the ground or a lot with those passes. I mean, let's say he catches 70 balls and you want to compare him to a guy that only catches 20..that difference of 50 comes about to about 3 fantasy points per week. And odds are that any RB you would draft around the same time who is only gonna catch 20 or so balls is gonna do a lot more on the ground (which is why he is being drafted at that spot) than Bush will. I suspect Bush will do the usual: have a few very good (or even great) games, miss a few games due to injury, and have a whole lot of duds. The best scenario for a FF owner is getting him as your number 3 RB (in a start 2 RB league where a 3rd can be your flex) and hoping that the weeks you kind of have to start him are the weeks he does well.

In PPR touches are ridiculously important. Bush looks to be a 250 touch back (15-16 touches a game) a similar usage back who averages 1 yard per touch more on 50 fewer receptions will be outscored by 25 pts (assuming the same # of TDs). Realistically though Bush will average as many or more yards per touch as his receptions - even if they are less on average than his comp- will pull up his yards per touch.

 

[Dancing Bear]

There is some revisionist history going on here regarding Reggie Bush. His first 3 years in NO he averaged15.2 touches and 81.7 yards per game19.2 touches and 83.215.8 touches and 84.4He scored 20 TDs (24 if you get credit for kick return TDs in your league) in 38 games- >0.5 per game- for basically 11.5 points per game in Non PPR.In PPR he jumps to ~17 per game which is top 12 RB over 16 games most years. Obviously there are questions about how many TDs he can produce in a significantly worse offense and if his body can hold up to that kind of work load. But to be clear the kind of workload that he is being touted as getting by his HC definately gives him the potential to be a low end #1 RB.

Your logic is faulty.Bush has played in 66 games [including 6 playoff games].His fantasy points scored averages only 10.1 ppg [standard scoring non-ppr].Of the 66 games,40 are for less than 10 points!13 are between 10-15 points5 are between 15-20 points6 are between 20-25 points2 are for higher than 25 points.That means you have a 40% chance of scoring 10 ppg or higher. Horrible odds for success!

 

[Boston]

What I like about Bush is his situaton...with Thomas currently not looking the part Bush should get plenty of touches simply by default (who else are they gonna use)...also, I don't see Miami being good this year...if they are .500 that's a good year for them...I see a scenario where Bush becomes King of the fantasy garbage points...a lot of second half dump-offs and draws were there's plenty of running room late in a game...I would not count on him as a definite but if he's ever going to produce at a semi-high level this year could be it...

 

[DrapedInVelvet]

Look, you can throw all the stats out from New Orleans you want. The fact is he has never really been a feature back which he will be this year. If you watch - as in with your own eyes - the preseason games you will see a very different player from what I saw in N.O. He seems bigger and to run with more power. He's still elusive and fast though.

The key is you don't have to pay much for him. I got him in the 10th round and probably could have waited longer. There is real potential for a gigantic season as he may touch the ball 20 times a game and get some goal line carries.

Of course health is an issue, but again you aren't drafting him in the third round.

I read the first reports of him looking really good and was extremely dubious. I then started watching the preseason games and my jaw dropped.

 

[Vicktimized]

There is some revisionist history going on here regarding Reggie Bush. His first 3 years in NO he averaged15.2 touches and 81.7 yards per game19.2 touches and 83.215.8 touches and 84.4He scored 20 TDs (24 if you get credit for kick return TDs in your league) in 38 games- >0.5 per game- for basically 11.5 points per game in Non PPR.In PPR he jumps to ~17 per game which is top 12 RB over 16 games most years. Obviously there are questions about how many TDs he can produce in a significantly worse offense and if his body can hold up to that kind of work load. But to be clear the kind of workload that he is being touted as getting by his HC definately gives him the potential to be a low end #1 RB.

Your logic is faulty.Bush has played in 66 games [including 6 playoff games].His fantasy points scored averages only 10.1 ppg [standard scoring non-ppr].Of the 66 games,40 are for less than 10 points!13 are between 10-15 points5 are between 15-20 points6 are between 20-25 points2 are for higher than 25 points.That means you have a 40% chance of scoring 10 ppg or higher. Horrible odds for success!

Your logic/statistics are more misleading than his. He's counting the first three seasons as to show what Bush 'has done' when getting the kind of workload that Miami is projected to give him. I would take it that 40-percent jumps significantly when you factor out the last two seasons, when his touches plummeted, and 4 of his 6 playoff games, which happened over the same stretch. I'm not among those that believes he'll hold up, and TD production is very questionable going to a lesser offense ... but clearly the first three seasons are more applicable to this situation.

 

[baconisgood]

There is some revisionist history going on here regarding Reggie Bush. His first 3 years in NO he averaged15.2 touches and 81.7 yards per game19.2 touches and 83.215.8 touches and 84.4He scored 20 TDs (24 if you get credit for kick return TDs in your league) in 38 games- >0.5 per game- for basically 11.5 points per game in Non PPR.In PPR he jumps to ~17 per game which is top 12 RB over 16 games most years. Obviously there are questions about how many TDs he can produce in a significantly worse offense and if his body can hold up to that kind of work load. But to be clear the kind of workload that he is being touted as getting by his HC definately gives him the potential to be a low end #1 RB.

Your logic is faulty.Bush has played in 66 games [including 6 playoff games].His fantasy points scored averages only 10.1 ppg [standard scoring non-ppr].Of the 66 games,40 are for less than 10 points!13 are between 10-15 points5 are between 15-20 points6 are between 20-25 points2 are for higher than 25 points.That means you have a 40% chance of scoring 10 ppg or higher. Horrible odds for success!

Your reading comprehension is poor. I was specifically talking about the first 3 years in NO when his usage pattern was similar to what his current HC has been saying (strongly implying) it will be this year. I was then also primirly talking about PPR- which is where the top 12 potential on a per game basis comes in. In his first 3 years in the league he had 3+ receptions in 34 of 38 games.

 

[gheemony]

There is some revisionist history going on here regarding Reggie Bush. His first 3 years in NO he averaged15.2 touches and 81.7 yards per game19.2 touches and 83.215.8 touches and 84.4He scored 20 TDs (24 if you get credit for kick return TDs in your league) in 38 games- >0.5 per game- for basically 11.5 points per game in Non PPR.In PPR he jumps to ~17 per game which is top 12 RB over 16 games most years. Obviously there are questions about how many TDs he can produce in a significantly worse offense and if his body can hold up to that kind of work load. But to be clear the kind of workload that he is being touted as getting by his HC definately gives him the potential to be a low end #1 RB.

Your logic is faulty.Bush has played in 66 games [including 6 playoff games].His fantasy points scored averages only 10.1 ppg [standard scoring non-ppr].Of the 66 games,40 are for less than 10 points!13 are between 10-15 points5 are between 15-20 points6 are between 20-25 points2 are for higher than 25 points.That means you have a 40% chance of scoring 10 ppg or higher. Horrible odds for success!

This is not all that unusual. Fantasy points are not normally distributed. They are log-normally distributed. That means that more of a player's games will be below the players average points per game. Since he averaged 10.1 ppg, no surprise that only 40% were above 10.1.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I think jerome harrison and peyton hillis have put up some pretty good ppr weeks under daboll in cleveland the last 2 years, and I'm hoping reggie can do at least as well as those 2 guys.

hillis was 4th in catches last year -- just a couple behind foster and rice.

could catch 60+ balls, should break some big plays, and won't be relegated to just 3rd down work.

I think that's a pretty solid late round ppr flex.

here's hoping reggie stays healthy, and thomas continues to fail.

edit: and for even more upside, if his knee holds up there's even some kind of chance he picks up a few punt return points.

 

[Todem]

I have seen every carry and reception he has had this pre-season. Looks like a different back thus far and at 6.7 as my flex...worth the gamble in PPR.

Same went for Felix Jones. He looks like a back ready to break out this season. Took him at 3.8.

This year there will be some different backs in the top 10-12. Always happens. I think both these guys can do it in PPR.

 

[nysportsfan]

I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that where he is being drafted is no brainer. I got him in the 7th, but I really don't think it is going to kill my team if he flops. If he hits like I think he might, he;s going to be a helluva flex player.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Thomas looked better than Bush in their last preseason game. Bush is not a between the tackles runner. I suspect MIA is going to throw this year, a lot.

 

[Ian F]

No doubt he could win someone a championship but history suggests the odds of him staying healthy for more than a few games if he gets 15-20+ touches are very very small...

Maybe in PPR but I think there are better mid-late round fliers than him in std formats(e.g. Tolbert)

 

[Jaysports]

Thomas looked better than Bush in their last preseason game. Bush is not a between the tackles runner. I suspect MIA is going to throw this year, a lot.

Not sure why people keep looking at the last game when many have already stated on this topic that that was not a typical game for Mia. Below is a blurb from the new FBG game recaps on their preseason game 3 which called out the o-line big time. It's still early, when they get everyone on the field at the same time and start gelling I think we will see a major difference. Just two weeks ago Bush exploded with 80+ all purpose yards in a half, then the line has a bad game and people are all over him. I don't get it. The only question here should be about his ability to stay healthy. McCoy danced a lot his rookie year, he made the necessary changes last year and flourished. I still feel that if Bush runs the right way than he and McCoy have similar skill-sets. If Bush is truly motivated to prove his critics wrong than he will play through any nagging injuries and hit the holes hard which he has been doing this preseason. He's smart enough to realize that this could be his best last chance and that if he doesn't, then Daniel Thomas will be inserted at some point. "RB Reggie Bush 1st carry of the game and he has Michael Bennett, DE from the Bucs waiting to almost meet him in the backfield as he beat Vernon Carey-RG rather easily on the play. Not a good sign for Miami but the left side of the OL is not good right now. Jake Long, Pro Bowl LT is out as well right now so the OL does not look like it will on opening day. Bush never had any holes to run through and if Miami does not start blocking better it won't matter who is running the football. Terrible effort by the Miami OL and a good job of run defense by the Bucs. Bush was running to the sidelines vs running straight ahead like he did against Carolina last week. He also dropped an easy screen with 2 blockers in front of him, would have been a 10-20 yard gain but he flat dropped it."

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Thomas looked better than Bush in their last preseason game. Bush is not a between the tackles runner. I suspect MIA is going to throw this year, a lot.

Not sure why people keep looking at the last game when many have already stated on this topic that that was not a typical game for Mia. Below is a blurb from the new FBG game recaps on their preseason game 3 which called out the o-line big time. It's still early, when they get everyone on the field at the same time and start gelling I think we will see a major difference. Just two weeks ago Bush exploded with 80+ all purpose yards in a half, then the line has a bad game and people are all over him. I don't get it. The only question here should be about his ability to stay healthy. McCoy danced a lot his rookie year, he made the necessary changes last year and flourished. I still feel that if Bush runs the right way than he and McCoy have similar skill-sets. If Bush is truly motivated to prove his critics wrong than he will play through any nagging injuries and hit the holes hard which he has been doing this preseason. He's smart enough to realize that this could be his best last chance and that if he doesn't, then Daniel Thomas will be inserted at some point. "RB Reggie Bush 1st carry of the game and he has Michael Bennett, DE from the Bucs waiting to almost meet him in the backfield as he beat Vernon Carey-RG rather easily on the play. Not a good sign for Miami but the left side of the OL is not good right now. Jake Long, Pro Bowl LT is out as well right now so the OL does not look like it will on opening day. Bush never had any holes to run through and if Miami does not start blocking better it won't matter who is running the football. Terrible effort by the Miami OL and a good job of run defense by the Bucs. Bush was running to the sidelines vs running straight ahead like he did against Carolina last week. He also dropped an easy screen with 2 blockers in front of him, would have been a 10-20 yard gain but he flat dropped it."

Now that is some in depth coverage you won't get anywhere else.

 

[12punch]

I remember another guy they said got hit behind the line too much.

A guy named barry sanders......

 

[DeaLerZ]

Give me three weeks of watching him in the regular season and i'll tell you how well i think he is going to do this season... but as far as fantasy football .. if you need to start him in the first three weeks.. i wouldn't feel horrible about doing it especially in PPR.. he is going to get receptions regardless.. and reports are that Daniel Thomas is not going to be used that much at all early on in the season until he gets his pass protection down better



Coach Tony Sparano said that rookie RB Daniel Thomas is still learning how to pass protect.



While the majority of Miami's starters will sit out tonight's preseason finale, Thomas will play. In addition to his struggles as a runner between the tackles, protecting the quarterback is an issue as well. "In the beginning it was overwhelming a little bit," Sparano said of Thomas. The Dolphins don't appear prepared to use Thomas very much at all in the beginning of the season.

Per Rotoworld

 

[Cenobite]

Reggie will be the quintessential boom/bust guy in 2011. Assuming he stays healthy (that will be typed a lot in this thread), he's going to post some clunkers and he's going to throw up a handful of games with monster stats.If you can still get him late, then he makes the PERFECT flex guy in PPR leagues (where you can afford the clunkers and shoot for the upside).Highly possible that he wears down or gets hurt and eventually gives way to an improving Daniel Thomas (can the kid possibly be THAT bad? I haven't watched him enough to know). But I'm betting ends up a pleasant surprise for everyone who took a chance on him in early drafts.

I agree. Seems in PPR leagues he is being undervalued. We all know of the injury risk and inability to run over people but the guy is talented and has the opportunity to be a featured back. I also think that the Fins need a name to draw fan interest and Bush is the man. They will ride him until he either gets hurt or falls flat on his face.

 

[TheFanatic]

Give me three weeks of watching him in the regular season and i'll tell you how well i think he is going to do this season... but as far as fantasy football .. if you need to start him in the first three weeks.. i wouldn't feel horrible about doing it especially in PPR.. he is going to get receptions regardless.. and reports are that Daniel Thomas is not going to be used that much at all early on in the season until he gets his pass protection down better



Coach Tony Sparano said that rookie RB Daniel Thomas is still learning how to pass protect.



While the majority of Miami's starters will sit out tonight's preseason finale, Thomas will play. In addition to his struggles as a runner between the tackles, protecting the quarterback is an issue as well. "In the beginning it was overwhelming a little bit," Sparano said of Thomas. The Dolphins don't appear prepared to use Thomas very much at all in the beginning of the season.

Per Rotoworld

The lack of pass blocking is the most discouraging thing I've heard about DT. That's very problematic. If he can't keep the QB upright, he doesn't play

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Look, you can throw all the stats out from New Orleans you want. The fact is he has never really been a feature back which he will be this year.

Well I'm pretty sure that New Orleans was hoping he would be their feature back when they spent the No. 2 overall pick on him. There's a reason he "has never really been a feature back" though.ETA: I still think he can be a useful player in ppr leagues, I'm just not so sure that his carries don't start to dwindle when he shows once again that he's not a capable feature back at this level.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

LJ

 

[bonesman]

LJ

Washed up