Reggie Bush (3 Viewers)

[Hue G]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???

Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.

Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Im not!!

 

[King of the Jungle]

Your the one talking about him .

The point is, Bush does consume the defenses attention, and the Saints fully utilized on numerous occassions last night (very successfully might I add). I think as the season progresses, Bush will have more opportunities to make big plays, due to the fact that the Saints are finding ways to move the ball with other players. Defenses will slowly let their guard down to a certain extent and Bush will be able to have more to work with.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Your the one talking about him .The point is, Bush does consume the defenses attention, and the Saints fully utilized on numerous occassions last night (very successfully might I add). I think as the season progresses, Bush will have more opportunities to make big plays, due to the fact that the Saints are finding ways to move the ball with other players. Defenses will slowly let their guard down to a certain extent and Bush will be able to have more to work with.

My favorite play was when Rossum thought Bush had the ball and pursued him while Deuce was left to take it inside Rossum. Good stuff by Payton.

 

[cantstandya]

He's one of the reasons why I got The NFL Sunday Ticket. The other reason is that the Titans unfortunately suck.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

From what I've seen there hasn't been much mention of Bush in the media or on these boards. I know he won the Heisman and he's quick and slithery but I haven't really seen or read much about him. Not sure if he is or not, but he should be helping the people in New Orleans with his celebrity...it would definitely be a help to the city.

 

[Double_J]

All I know is "Jesus in Cleats" has gone 3 games and hasn't scored yet. He's so overhyped it's pathetic. Not saying he's not good now or that he won't be later. Look at the numbers though. Several other rookie running backs are outproducing him.

BTW, it's DEVERY Henderson. You might remember him from the "Blue Grass Miracle".

 

[icehouse]

From what I've seen there hasn't been much mention of Bush in the media or on these boards. I know he won the Heisman and he's quick and slithery but I haven't really seen or read much about him. Not sure if he is or not, but he should be helping the people in New Orleans with his celebrity...it would definitely be a help to the city.

You must not watch ESPN. Bush is one of the top stories each weekend, and rarely is his play criticized like the other rookies. They always try to highlight and over-emphasize the good parts of his day.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

All I know is "Jesus in Cleats" has gone 3 games and hasn't scored yet. He's so overhyped it's pathetic. Not saying he's not good now or that he won't be later. Look at the numbers though. Several other rookie running backs are outproducing him.BTW, it's DEVERY Henderson. You might remember him from the "Blue Grass Miracle".

Saints are 3-0, and a good reason is Bush's impact on the offense. His Fantasy Numbers arent through the roof, but that double reverse dosent work last night if you dont have Bush. His impact on the game dosent show up on the stat sheet, but it does in the Win column.

 

[jonessed]

Maroney has impressed me more, but you don't hear about him much. So goes the hype machine.

 

[Kiddnets]

I agree with the above - Bush has made more of an impact as a decoy so far. As the season goes on the defense will have no choice but to respect the other NO weapons and then he will start having some big games. Patience is key with him - I see his numbers progressing up the next few weeks with a couple of big time games on the way.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

His production hasn't lived up to the hype, but his impact certainly has.

 

[icehouse]

All I know is "Jesus in Cleats" has gone 3 games and hasn't scored yet. He's so overhyped it's pathetic. Not saying he's not good now or that he won't be later. Look at the numbers though. Several other rookie running backs are outproducing him.BTW, it's DEVERY Henderson. You might remember him from the "Blue Grass Miracle".

Saints are 3-0, and a good reason is Bush's impact on the offense. His Fantasy Numbers arent through the roof, but that double reverse dosent work last night if you dont have Bush. His impact on the game dosent show up on the stat sheet, but it does in the Win column.

Another good reason is the new QB, the new WR, getting your workhorse RB back and a new coach. Bush is contributing but let's not act like it's all on him. Remove him and the offensive foundation on that team is still solid. They were a decent offensice squad prior to last years nomad season and deuce's injury.

 

[brakeyawself]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

Eh. Perhaps. All though in my PPR leagues, and most I assume Bush is the number 1 rookie runningback as far as fantasy scoring goes. Ahead of Moroney and everyone else, and without a touchdown. So just wait until he begins to score.Non PPR he drops off a bit. But I doubt that will last long. Deuce is still taking a good share of runs. Bush is being used differently. So he wont rack up rushing totals like he could if he was the featured back. I wouldnt underate Reggie Bush either just because he might be "overhyped".

 

[One]

Deuce had a couple of nice runs created by the fake reverse to Bush. Then Horn got wide open on the pass fake to Bush in the flat. He's more valuable than his stats show. I think opponents are paying really close attention to him... so IMO he's not as overrated as some think.

 

[packersfan]

His production hasn't lived up to the hype, but his impact certainly has.

Agreed. Last night was the first time I've been really disappointed in him from a production standpoint. I thought he was good in Week 1; solid in Week 2 and disappointing last night. From a fantasy perspective he isn't living up to his billing although I'm remaining patient because I do believe he's a genuine talent who will emerge this season. However, from a game planning and team perspective there's no question his impact on the Saints has been significant. Teams are game planning to stop him specifically and Payton has done a terrific job thus far of using him to his team's advantage.Payton right now is the leading contender for Coach of the Year in my opinon. I've been very impressed with him. He's the guy I wanted the Packers to hire and I was not happy they didn't even pursue him. He's doing a great job with the Saints.

 

[abhall]

Bush after 3 weeks,

standard scoring (10 yards per rush/rec):

PPR leagues = RB15 (solid RB2)

Non PPR leagues = RB26 (average RB3/Flex)

I'd be concerned if he was my RB2 in a non-ppr league. The production won't be there because the situation (Duece) is not in his favor. Duece has 58 touches, Bush 53. I do think Bush's numbers will improve as defenses will have to adjust to New Orleans other weapons (Coltson!).

 

[JuniorNB]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

In dynasty leagues, the picture looks brighter. I think he could eventually become a Brian Westbrook-type. That's a good thing.

The media are the ones who are up his butt. Like an earlier poster mentioned, the guy can do no wrong. His stats are average, at best. And he's gotten the opportunity to go against the Browns and Packers.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

Maroney doesn't have defenses keying on him like BUsh does. So many times, Bush's teamates are helped out because everyone is keying on Bush. Theres a reason that their offense is so much better now that they have him imo.

 

[abhall]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

Don't make a blanket statement that ignorant. I drafted him in the 4th round of a PPR league and I'm 3-0 with the highest point total. I'm in other leagues where Bush owner's teams are doing fine because he's their FLEX option along with 2 other solid RB's.

 

[JuniorNB]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

Don't make a blanket statement that ignorant. I drafted him in the 4th round of a PPR league and I'm 3-0 with the highest point total. I'm in other leagues where Bush owner's teams are doing fine because he's their FLEX option along with 2 other solid RB's.

Ok, let me reword that. They made a bad pick in taking Bush early. How they did with their other picks is a different story.

 

[posty]

Nope... I have been tired of hearing about him since last year...

 

[Assani Fisher]

I am very pleased with BUsh in my ppr league so far, especially knowing that as defenses stop keying on him he'll only improve.

 

[Cenobite]

From what I've seen there hasn't been much mention of Bush in the media or on these boards. I know he won the Heisman and he's quick and slithery but I haven't really seen or read much about him. Not sure if he is or not, but he should be helping the people in New Orleans with his celebrity...it would definitely be a help to the city.

He is helping N.O. recover from the tragedy. Maybe you won't read much in FF sites but in S.I. they wrote a very good piece on his efforts to help the community. Before writing what R. Bush should do, maybe you should find out what he has done and continues to do.

 

[JuniorNB]

I am very pleased with BUsh in my ppr league so far, especially knowing that as defenses stop keying on him he'll only improve.

I will agree with this. In PPR leagues, he's probably being somewhat productive. We'll leave the argument about PPR leagues for another thread.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Bush is an exciting player and may well become one of the great multi-purpose running backs of all time. I think the thing that is most overlooked in his game is what a natural pass catcher he is and how comfortable he is running pass routes that many running backs can't run effectively.

With that said, ESPN has had a really unhealthy man-crush on him for the better part of the past two years. As a Longhorn fan, I got more than my fill of hearing about him last year. EPSN's insane hyping of Bush last year probably was the main factor in his winning the Heisman by the widest margin ever.

 

[icehouse]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

Maroney doesn't have defenses keying on him like BUsh does. So many times, Bush's teamates are helped out because everyone is keying on Bush. Theres a reason that their offense is so much better now that they have him imo.

So much better than when?2006: 344 yards a game, 25 points a game2004: 325 yards a game, 22 points a game2003: 340 yards a game, 25 points a gameI didn't count 2005 because they were a Nomad team and lost Deuce.Again, I guess the upgrade at QB, the new coach and new big receiver don't mean much. Bush has contributed and he is a threat, but let's not act like he is transforming the Saints offense from todays Bears to the 80's 49'ers. It seems like some of y'all are providing perfect examples of the original posters point (overhype). Bush is solid, but as usual folks are quick to lay all the praise on him and not look at all the pieces of the puzzle. Kinda reminds me of how Jordan get's all the credit for his NCAA title because of his one jumper, even though Worthy was the MVP of the tournament.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

With that said, ESPN has had a really unhealthy man-crush on him for the better part of the past two years. As a Longhorn fan, I got more than my fill of hearing about him last year. EPSN's insane hyping of Bush last year probably was the main factor in his winning the Heisman by the widest margin ever.

He put cheeks in the seats. They were just capitalizing.And ESPN sucks.

 

[BigFishBigTeeth]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.In dynasty leagues, the picture looks brighter. I think he could eventually become a Brian Westbrook-type. That's a good thing.The media are the ones who are up his butt. Like an earlier poster mentioned, the guy can do no wrong. His stats are average, at best. And he's gotten the opportunity to go against the Browns and Packers.

Like Westrbook except bigger, stronger, much faster and a 40" vertical... I drafted him in the late first round because we have a one player keeper league.... I am looking forward to a long friendship! You are right though about where he was going in redraft leagues...

 

[icehouse]

Bush is an exciting player and may well become one of the great multi-purpose running backs of all time. I think the thing that is most overlooked in his game is what a natural pass catcher he is and how comfortable he is running pass routes that many running backs can't run effectively.

With that said, ESPN has had a really unhealthy man-crush on him for the better part of the past two years. As a Longhorn fan, I got more than my fill of hearing about him last year. EPSN's insane hyping of Bush last year probably was the main factor in his winning the Heisman by the widest margin ever.

I agree with this post, especially the bolded part. Bush is a weapon but the media constantly compares him to all-time great RB's like Barry, Sayers, etc...and I haven't seen anything at the NFL level to warrant those comparisons. I feel he is overhyped in those regards. I look at Bush and see a good RB, not the 2nd coming as the media would lead you to believe.

 

[dawgtrails]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

Maroney doesn't have defenses keying on him like BUsh does. So many times, Bush's teamates are helped out because everyone is keying on Bush. Theres a reason that their offense is so much better now that they have him imo.

So much better than when?2006: 344 yards a game, 25 points a game2004: 325 yards a game, 22 points a game2003: 340 yards a game, 25 points a gameI didn't count 2005 because they were a Nomad team and lost Deuce.Again, I guess the upgrade at QB, the new coach and new big receiver don't mean much. Bush has contributed and he is a threat, but let's not act like he is transforming the Saints offense from todays Bears to the 80's 49'ers. It seems like some of y'all are providing perfect examples of the original posters point (overhype). Bush is solid, but as usual folks are quick to lay all the praise on him and not look at all the pieces of the puzzle. Kinda reminds me of how Jordan get's all the credit for his NCAA title because of his one jumper, even though Worthy was the MVP of the tournament.

As much as it may get tiresome to hear...get used to it.I don't know why the Saints are playing Deuce as much as they are, hoestly. Personally, I can see a huge distinction between him and Deuce. He is 3 speeds faster than Deuce, and has incredible hands. When I watch the game, and can't see the numbers on the jersey, or the names, Bush stands out. If I am doing something, I will pause to watch him run. He is going to break may long ones in his career.Once he picks up a little more of the coaches gameplan, I expect we will see more and more of him. You will rarely see Deuce alone in the backfield.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.

Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.

I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

 

[Lauryn]

yeah it's out of control... i'd like to see more long-gainers and breakaway touchdowns for all the hype.

 

[Armando]

Nope.

He's Jesus in cleats. The focus the defenses already have on him alone is pretty amazing.

 

[One]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

How big of a league are you talkin'? In a larger (12-14) PPR league he's an awesome RB2.

 

[Hue G]

Is it just me or does everyone talk about Reggie Bush like he's the next coming of Christ? For example I was watching Sports Center last night and they were talking about how "Reggie Bush" made a big play they showed the clip and it was the play that he handed off to Darvey Henderson???Now obviously Bush is a great talent but he really is probably 2nd behind Maroney right now in terms of rookie production, yes people talk about Maroney and other rookies but people talk about Bush like he's going to be football's answer to Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan and I just don't see it??? He reminds me a lot more of Brian Westbrook than Barry Sanders or LT.Anyone else sick of hearing about him?

Maroney doesn't have defenses keying on him like BUsh does. So many times, Bush's teamates are helped out because everyone is keying on Bush. Theres a reason that their offense is so much better now that they have him imo.

So much better than when?2006: 344 yards a game, 25 points a game2004: 325 yards a game, 22 points a game2003: 340 yards a game, 25 points a gameI didn't count 2005 because they were a Nomad team and lost Deuce.Again, I guess the upgrade at QB, the new coach and new big receiver don't mean much. Bush has contributed and he is a threat, but let's not act like he is transforming the Saints offense from todays Bears to the 80's 49'ers. It seems like some of y'all are providing perfect examples of the original posters point (overhype). Bush is solid, but as usual folks are quick to lay all the praise on him and not look at all the pieces of the puzzle. Kinda reminds me of how Jordan get's all the credit for his NCAA title because of his one jumper, even though Worthy was the MVP of the tournament.

As much as it may get tiresome to hear...get used to it.I don't know why the Saints are playing Deuce as much as they are, hoestly. Personally, I can see a huge distinction between him and Deuce. He is 3 speeds faster than Deuce, and has incredible hands. When I watch the game, and can't see the numbers on the jersey, or the names, Bush stands out. If I am doing something, I will pause to watch him run. He is going to break may long ones in his career.Once he picks up a little more of the coaches gameplan, I expect we will see more and more of him. You will rarely see Deuce alone in the backfield.

I don't agree, I've watched 2 of their games (last night and vs. Cleveland) and Duece has impressed me more than Bush has from what I've seen.

 

[dawgtrails]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

 

[JuniorNB]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

How big of a league are you talkin'? In a larger (12-14) PPR league he's an awesome RB2.

I already said that he's probably pretty good in PPR leagues.The fact is, Bush is currently number 30 in NFL rushing. Do you know how many of the guys ahead of him have a worse average per carry? Five. That's it.

I don't want to bash Bush. I see plenty of future for him. He looks quick and he's not as fragile looking as I thought he was in college. If my league was a keeper league, I'd love to have him.

The thread asked who was tired of hearing about him. I would just like to see him actually do something instead of seeing all the headlines he's getting based on what he may become someday.

Brian Westbrook gets 170 yards and three touchdowns, and we hear more about the greatness of Bush's handoff on the reverse than we do about Westbrook's day.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

 

[stbugs]

I am very pleased with BUsh in my ppr league so far, especially knowing that as defenses stop keying on him he'll only improve.

This has been said a few times in this thread. Why would defenses stop keying on Bush? That would be like teams not gaming for Michael Vick because Dunn had a good year last year. Teams will continue to game plan against Bush, not against an aging Horn, 7th rounder Colston (who is still good), McAllister or Brees. If those other guys beat them, then oh well. Saying that Colston doing well will open up Bush more does not make any sense to me. If I am an NFL DC and Colston goes wild and Bush is contained, I probably think I have a better shot at winning than if Bush goes wild.

 

[One]

Bush was way over valued in redraft leagues. Anyone who drafted him in one of the first five rounds is probably suffering through a bad start.

How big of a league are you talkin'? In a larger (12-14) PPR league he's an awesome RB2.

I already said that he's probably pretty good in PPR leagues.The fact is, Bush is currently number 30 in NFL rushing. Do you know how many of the guys ahead of him have a worse average per carry? Five. That's it.

I don't want to bash Bush. I see plenty of future for him. He looks quick and he's not as fragile looking as I thought he was in college. If my league was a keeper league, I'd love to have him.

The thread asked who was tired of hearing about him. I would just like to see him actually do something instead of seeing all the headlines he's getting based on what he may become someday.

Brian Westbrook gets 170 yards and three touchdowns, and we hear more about the greatness of Bush's handoff on the reverse than we do about Westbrook's day.

I see. we're talkin apples and oranges then. In my larger PPRs he's looking great as LJ/Bush and LT/Bush compliment. He fell to the early 3rd/late 2nd and is paying off well as the number 15th RB in our scoring. I'd hoped New Orleans would be playing from behind on MNF, that way we could really see where his unique talent is... as a solid reciever and playmaker in open space. We'll have plenty of time this season to see what he can do, but I 100% agree the guy gets way too much press.

 

[dawgtrails]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

you missed the sarcasm i guess

 

[WhoDat]

His production hasn't lived up to the hype, but his impact certainly has.

I agree. He is a good NFL player. Part of that value stems from the pressure he puts onto a defense...when he does not have the football in his hands. Pre-snap the guy is disruptive and takes a defensive team out of what they might want to do. Bush predicates how a team will play the Saints, when he is on the field. He is a rookie with 3 games played. His impact on that offense is significant. When he has the ball, it is clear he still has a few things to learn. For example, he tried getting to the corner last night a few times and was either caught or ran out of bounds. He seems like a quick study, though, as he hit the hole inside later in the game without hesitation and took what was there. Bush is catching on that finding the edge of the defense on Sundays is just a little bit more difficult than turning the corner on Saturdays. In time he will put that together. Unless you are in a PPR league my feeling is that you will be a little disappointed with Bush's production. What you are seeing is how he is going to be used. He is not a 25 carry per game back. He is not going to pound the ball inside the 5. He is not that player nor will he be that player. If you want that guy in rookie form, draft Peterson next year. He is going to get 15-20 touches per game. He is going to be active in the passing game. He is going to be given the ball out in space in a one on one match-up. He is going to spell McCallister at RB. He is going to be rotated in and out over the course of the game. That is part of what makes him so valuable to a football team. He is highly versatile and opens the game up for the rest of the offense. The Saints abused mismatches last night and it was clear the Falcons were grab bagging on defense mid way through the second quarter. Is he overhyped? Yes, he is. Has he padded stat sheets like FF fans or people that drafted would have hoped? Probably not. In a PRR league, yes, but in standard scoring no. In terms of NFL value is Bush really worth that much? Without a doubt. You take Bush away from that offense and somehow I do not think we have any idea who M. Colston is; nobody would be talking about Brees and his comeback and McCallister would look ordinary. Bush puts that much pressure on a defense.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

you missed the sarcasm i guess

Guess so.

 

[stbugs]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

In 12 years (including 2005), he has 136 Total TDs, which is 11.3 per year, not 9. The past few years he has missed some games and also not even been the starter. If you only knock off 2005, where he started 1 game and had 1 TD, his average over the first 11 years is 12.3, which seems pretty good to me.His 3 year stretch from 1999-2001 still has to be one of the best ever with 6765 total yards, 59 TDs, and 251 receptions. And he did that missing 2 games in 2000 and 2 more in 2001.

 

[dawgtrails]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

In 12 years (including 2005), he has 136 Total TDs, which is 11.3 per year, not 9. The past few years he has missed some games and also not even been the starter. If you only knock off 2005, where he started 1 game and had 1 TD, his average over the first 11 years is 12.3, which seems pretty good to me.His 3 year stretch from 1999-2001 still has to be one of the best ever with 6765 total yards, 59 TDs, and 251 receptions. And he did that missing 2 games in 2000 and 2 more in 2001.

We know Marshall Faulk is a hall of famer...we know he is great. Y'all seriously missed the jest of the post. The poster was comparing Bush to Faulk, and he said "And I consider Marshall a HOFer". No *&^%

 

[Andy Dufresne]

We know Marshall Faulk is a hall of famer...we know he is great. Y'all seriously missed the jest of the post. The poster was comparing Bush to Faulk, and he said "And I consider Marshall a HOFer". No *&^%

Not everyone considers Marshall a HOFer.

 

[JuniorNB]

We know Marshall Faulk is a hall of famer...we know he is great. Y'all seriously missed the jest of the post. The poster was comparing Bush to Faulk, and he said "And I consider Marshall a HOFer". No *&^%

Not everyone considers Marshall a HOFer.

Seriously?

 

[stbugs]

Cripes, he's only played three games. Give him a break.Once he learns that he can't JUST outrun everyone in the NFL, he'll take advantage of his superior agility to find lanes ordinary backs can't.I see a better Marshall Faulk. And I consider Marshall a HOFer.

You consider Marshall Faulk a hall of famer? You mean the guy who only averaged over 1700 yds a year, and 9 TDs a year? He's a hall of famer?

His stretch from '97 to '03 makes him HOF worthy. No question about it.And if you want to talk about averages, please throw out the last two years. Plus, I'm guessing that 9 td average is only his rushing TDs and doesn't account for his receiving ones.

In 12 years (including 2005), he has 136 Total TDs, which is 11.3 per year, not 9. The past few years he has missed some games and also not even been the starter. If you only knock off 2005, where he started 1 game and had 1 TD, his average over the first 11 years is 12.3, which seems pretty good to me.His 3 year stretch from 1999-2001 still has to be one of the best ever with 6765 total yards, 59 TDs, and 251 receptions. And he did that missing 2 games in 2000 and 2 more in 2001.

We know Marshall Faulk is a hall of famer...we know he is great. Y'all seriously missed the jest of the post. The poster was comparing Bush to Faulk, and he said "And I consider Marshall a HOFer". No *&^%

No, I kind of figured you were jesting. I just felt like checking out some stats again because I couldn't remember how good/bad he was in the TD department with Indy and he was still pretty proficient. I just posted in reply to Andy's post because even in jest, you didn't have the TD numbers correct.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

We know Marshall Faulk is a hall of famer...we know he is great. Y'all seriously missed the jest of the post. The poster was comparing Bush to Faulk, and he said "And I consider Marshall a HOFer". No *&^%

Not everyone considers Marshall a HOFer.

Seriously?

There's plenty of stupids walking around.