Reggie Williams - Prospects going forward? (1 Viewer)

[SammyJankis]

Admittedly, I am someone that drafted Reggie Williams in a dynasty rookie draft a couple of years back. (One spot ahead or Roethlisberger )

Reggie didn't do much as a rookie and was outplayed by Wilford. In his second year, glowing training camp reports were written virtually every day. (I had an ongoing Reggie Williams thread.) Of course when the season rolled around, Reggie didn't do much of anything. (35-445-0 TDs)

I had officially given up on the guy. But this last weekend, Reggie had a good day with 6-47- 1TD and it sounds like he was close to having a second score. Perhaps more importantly, Reggie started the game across from Wilford and Matt Jones came off the bench.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the game last weekend and I have no idea how he looked. One week certainlly doesn't make a season. I am curious as to whether Williiams looked like he "gets it" and showed signs of fulfilling his potential or if this was just a flukey thing and he'll be back to 2 catches for 13 yards next week?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think it's gonna be a rotating WRBC in Jax all year. Big games spread between Wilford,RWill & Matt. With Matt being the most consistent week to week.

 

[LHUCKS]

Reggie is still very young...don't be suprised if he breaks out with moderate success over the next couple of years...especially if Leftwich continues to evolve into a more effective passer.

 

[lod2005]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

 

[JayMan]

Admittedly, I am someone that drafted Reggie Williams in a dynasty rookie draft a couple of years back. (One spot ahead or Roethlisberger )Reggie didn't do much as a rookie and was outplayed by Wilford. In his second year, glowing training camp reports were written virtually every day. (I had an ongoing Reggie Williams thread.) Of course when the season rolled around, Reggie didn't do much of anything. (35-445-0 TDs) I had officially given up on the guy. But this last weekend, Reggie had a good day with 6-47- 1TD and it sounds like he was close to having a second score. Perhaps more importantly, Reggie started the game across from Wilford and Matt Jones came off the bench.Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the game last weekend and I have no idea how he looked. One week certainlly doesn't make a season. I am curious as to whether Williiams looked like he "gets it" and showed signs of fulfilling his potential or if this was just a flukey thing and he'll be back to 2 catches for 13 yards next week?

I must say that it was the first time that I saw him, in his career, as being a constant threat on the field - someone that the opposing D has to look at...Probably a combination of some Jimmy Smith looks going his way / Reggie maturing / the pass D looking at MJones - Wilford - Lewis - Drew prior to locking on Reggie...If he can get his act together - he's a talent (seems like a lot of young WRs are that way these days: CHenry / MWilliams / CRogers - to name a few...)

 

[SammyJankis]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem.

Hmm. Reggie has always had talent in that he's one of the biggest most physical WRs in the league. The knock on Williams has been his sloppy route running and lack of seperation speed.I think you could argue that Leftwich is *part* of the problem, but I think its a bit disengenous to state that Leftwich is the primary reason for Williams disappointing career to date.I thought the speed thing was always overstated, but would definately like to see Reggie run sharper routes.

 

[Mustang Man]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

It was not Leftwich's fault that the ball got batted at the line of scrimmage. If not for that it was a td, not that he was late with the ball. I see Williams as a nice #3 this season. He and Leftwich break out this year I think. By the way Leftwich of coarse breaking out means he is just a top backup at the fantasy QB position.

 

[Wadsworth]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

Byron saw Reggie right away on a quick slant from the 5 yard line. Leftwich started to throw but a D-lineman jumped in the path, Byron double pumped and tried to throw it in the next gap but a second D-lineman jump in the second path and knocked the ball down. Reggie was wide open, but unless Byron floated a moon ball there was no lane to Reggie. Throwing a moon ball on the 5 yard line into the middle of the field is rarely a good idea. Reggie has had the most reliable hands for a Jags WR over the last 2 years, including Jimmy Smith. But Reggie has a great deal of trouble getting separation. Most of his catches he out muscles/boxes out the defender rather than beats them. If Leftwich wasn't able to throw into tiny passing windows Reggie would have even few catches. Look at Reggie's production with Garrard before you start blaming Leftwich.Reggie was suppose to be a big play threat when he came out of college. That hasn't happened. But he could well develop into a solid move the chains, Keyshawn type WR, which isn't so bad. He is already a very good blocker and seems to love contant. He is also a very hard worker, Jimmy Smith, Jack Del Rio and others have singled him out as a guy that practices very hard. But I'd not expect him to be a solid fantasy player this season or in the next few unless something changes in Jacksonville. Leftwich just has too many targets and likes to spread it around. Maybe 70 catches, 800 yards, 5-6 TDs is reasonable, but more than that would be surprising.

 

[lod2005]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

It was not Leftwich's fault that the ball got batted at the line of scrimmage. If not for that it was a td, not that he was late with the ball. I see Williams as a nice #3 this season. He and Leftwich break out this year I think. By the way Leftwich of coarse breaking out means he is just a top backup at the fantasy QB position.

a quick release on that play is a TD. A big wind up is a batted down ball. Manning throws a TD there.

 

[Todem]

I think it's gonna be a rotating WRBC in Jax all year. Big games spread between Wilford,RWill & Matt. With Matt being the most consistent week to week.

Although I think Jones and Wilford will be about the same. Jones still looks raw and not fluid but is getting better and better. They have a nice problem at WR. Each week one of those 3 will have the big week. I don't think any of them can be considered more than a WR3 at best this season.Leftwich on the other hand takes way to long with his throwing motion. It just will not be good enough week in week out in the NFL where you do not have time to read a novel dropping back to throw.

 

[lod2005]

I think it's gonna be a rotating WRBC in Jax all year. Big games spread between Wilford,RWill & Matt. With Matt being the most consistent week to week.

Although I think Jones and Wilford will be about the same. Jones still looks raw and not fluid but is getting better and better. They have a nice problem at WR. Each week one of those 3 will have the big week. I don't think any of them canbe considered more than a WR3 at best this season.Leftwich on the other hand takes way to long with his throwing motion. It just will not be good enough week in week out in the NFL where you do not have time to read a novel dropping back to throw.

Sees what I see. You could read a novel in the time it takes Leftwich to get the ball away. It's brutal.

 

[Dazz]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

It was not Leftwich's fault that the ball got batted at the line of scrimmage. If not for that it was a td, not that he was late with the ball. I see Williams as a nice #3 this season. He and Leftwich break out this year I think. By the way Leftwich of coarse breaking out means he is just a top backup at the fantasy QB position.

a quick release on that play is a TD. A big wind up is a batted down ball. Manning throws a TD there.

Actually a quick release on that play is an interception. As someone else explained, there was a defensive lineman timing his jump during the first window, and Byron hesitated to avoid it. That's a good thing from a QB. His windup had nothing to do with it and honestly, it's something that is incredibly exaggerated. His biggest problem comes from not taking enough off the ball in some situations. Another 'problem' with his taking so long in the pocket is that most of the team isn't creating separation. The tradeoff Jacksonville has to make with bigger, stronger receivers is that Byron is going to have to sit back there and be patient more than most QB's. Even when he does get the ball out quickly it's because he's fitting his passes into very, very tight windows, like the drive last week where he hit Matt Jones 3 - 4 times while Anthony Henry was literally draped over him. Those kind of throws and their success are amplified by Jones' size (and Henry's lack thereof), but it's still something Byron has to deal with. As for Reggie's success, I don't see it coming this year. I agree with everyone else in that this is going to be a rotational job and on any given week Ernest, Reggie, or Matt could be huge (with Matt having the most probability). Towards week 7 - 8 though we should see who Byron is favoring and have more insight.

 

[Wadsworth]

I think it's gonna be a rotating WRBC in Jax all year. Big games spread between Wilford,RWill & Matt. With Matt being the most consistent week to week.

Although I think Jones and Wilford will be about the same. Jones still looks raw and not fluid but is getting better and better. They have a nice problem at WR. Each week one of those 3 will have the big week. I don't think any of them canbe considered more than a WR3 at best this season.Leftwich on the other hand takes way to long with his throwing motion. It just will not be good enough week in week out in the NFL where you do not have time to read a novel dropping back to throw.

Sees what I see. You could read a novel in the time it takes Leftwich to get the ball away. It's brutal.

Isn't it production that matters? He had a 3:1 TD:INT ratio last season, was a top 10 rated passer and in most fantasy scoring systems would have rated a starter in a 12 team league in the games he played. If he has the longest windup and ugliest throwing motion in the history of the NFL why would it matter if he produces?

 

[Wadsworth]

Williams has always had it. Leftwich is the problem. This past weekend he took too long getting the ball to reggie on a slant where NO ONE covered him in the endzone. Should have been 2 TD's. By the time he saw him and got his windmill cranked up, the defenders had their arms up waiting to bat it down. As far as the best receiver on the team? Look no further that % of passes caught last year. Reggie was tops at the WR position. He is not used correctly. He should be taking slant patterns all day long but that windmill takes a lot to get cranked up. THAT is the problem. Even with tight coverage Reggie hauls it in.

It was not Leftwich's fault that the ball got batted at the line of scrimmage. If not for that it was a td, not that he was late with the ball. I see Williams as a nice #3 this season. He and Leftwich break out this year I think. By the way Leftwich of coarse breaking out means he is just a top backup at the fantasy QB position.

a quick release on that play is a TD. A big wind up is a batted down ball. Manning throws a TD there.

The older Manning might throw a TD there but it would have nothing to do with the wind up. Peyton is just a better QB and might have found a throwing lane Leftwich just isn't able to see at this stage of his career. Leftwich actually started to throw, pulled it back and threw with the D-lineman that jumped to block the first passing lane still in the air.