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And to the extent that Moss is no longer available to give Wilf input regarding whether Childress should go, Zulgad and Scoggins report that Wilf already knows where Moss stands. They write that, after Sunday's loss to the Patriots, "Moss told the Vikings owner in no uncertain terms that Childress wasn't a good coach and should be fired."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...inst-childress/Chilly is one shrewd cat! I almost bought the excuse about Moss berating the caterer. :hifive:

 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?

What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.

 
Wilf has hung out at the Vikings facility all week talking to players and coaches and trying to get a handle on the attitude in the locker room. Hopefully he'll see that none of them respect Chilly as a coach, just most of them are too professional to come right out and say it. As a Vikings fan, I almost halfway hope they continue to struggle if it means we can move on and find a real coach. Sure it would suck this year, but would be better for the future of the franchise.

 
How many players saying "Fire the guy" will it take for Zygi to fire the guy? 15? 20?

A DVD dropped on his desk with certain key decisions that were botched by Chilly, done up "NFL Bloopers" style, would probably do the trick.

 
How many players saying "Fire the guy" will it take for Zygi to fire the guy? 15? 20?

A DVD dropped on his desk with certain key decisions that were botched by Chilly, done up "NFL Bloopers" style, would probably do the trick.
While that's all fair, Childress didn't throw the killer INT in the NFC title game. If Favre sucks it up for ONE play even though his ankle is killing him, and falls forward for a few yards, Longwell likely kicks them into the Super Bowl and there's a good chance they win.Childress would be looked upon much differently had that happened.

That said, his play calling is head-scratching at best, and AWFUL at worst.

EDIT: Or is Bevell to blame for the play calling???

 
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Childress is the knucklehead who got the 12-men in the huddle penalty prior to that, putting the Vikings in that 3rd and long. Plus, he is the dope who saw Favre get them down the field with passes, and then got all conservative and started running the ball once they got inside the 35. Not excusing Favre's INT, but the way Childress coached that last minute was absolutely atrocious.

 
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Childress is the knucklehead who got the 12-men in the huddle penalty prior to that, putting the Vikings in that 3rd and long. Plus, he is the dope who saw Favre get them down the field with passes, and then got all conservative and started running the ball once they got inside the 35. Not excusing Favre's INT, but the way Childress coached that last minute was absolutely atrocious.
:shrug: Favre's INT was the cherry on the top of the Childress two minute crap sundae.
 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?
Where does it say that they met up to discuss that?
Zygi Wilf could be building a case against Childress
According to Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Wilf has spent two days at the team's facility this week. Wilf's work has included meeting with some players individually -- and the meetings reportedly have included discussions about Childress.
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?A. Wardrobe and hairstyle discussions

B. Discussions if Brad looks more like an accountant or head coach

C. Discussion on if Brad is doing a good or ####ty job running his team

 
Childress is the knucklehead who got the 12-men in the huddle penalty prior to that, putting the Vikings in that 3rd and long. Plus, he is the dope who saw Favre get them down the field with passes, and then got all conservative and started running the ball once they got inside the 35. Not excusing Favre's INT, but the way Childress coached that last minute was absolutely atrocious.
:shrug: Favre's INT was the cherry on the top of the Childress two minute crap sundae.
 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?
Where does it say that they met up to discuss that?
Zygi Wilf could be building a case against Childress
According to Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Wilf has spent two days at the team's facility this week. Wilf's work has included meeting with some players individually -- and the meetings reportedly have included discussions about Childress.
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?A. Wardrobe and hairstyle discussions

B. Discussions if Brad looks more like an accountant or head coach

C. Discussion on if Brad is doing a good or ####ty job running his team
D. Discussions of whether Brad did a better job of acting in "Major Dad" or "Simon & Simon."
 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?
Where does it say that they met up to discuss that?
Zygi Wilf could be building a case against Childress
According to Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Wilf has spent two days at the team's facility this week. Wilf's work has included meeting with some players individually -- and the meetings reportedly have included discussions about Childress.
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?A. Wardrobe and hairstyle discussions

B. Discussions if Brad looks more like an accountant or head coach

C. Discussion on if Brad is doing a good or ####ty job running his team
Okay, but the original article is that Moss told him that after the loss on Sunday, so odds are that Moss ran into him after the game and randomly said that, rather than having a sit-down meeting with him to discuss that, especially since the owner likely didn't have these individual meetings with players (team leaders, most likely) until after Childress decided to waive Moss without getting permission from the owner.
 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?
Where does it say that they met up to discuss that?
Zygi Wilf could be building a case against Childress
According to Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Wilf has spent two days at the team's facility this week. Wilf's work has included meeting with some players individually -- and the meetings reportedly have included discussions about Childress.
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?A. Wardrobe and hairstyle discussions

B. Discussions if Brad looks more like an accountant or head coach

C. Discussion on if Brad is doing a good or ####ty job running his team
Okay, but the original article is that Moss told him that after the loss on Sunday, so odds are that Moss ran into him after the game and randomly said that, rather than having a sit-down meeting with him to discuss that, especially since the owner likely didn't have these individual meetings with players (team leaders, most likely) until after Childress decided to waive Moss without getting permission from the owner.
Heard a separate report that it happened in the tunnel right after the game.
 
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?
I seriously doubt he asked players "should we fire Childress?"Players may have offered their opinions about it, but they probably were not asked point blank.The article suggests he might be collecting evidence to fie him "with cause", so he was probably asking questions like "When did you first hear about Moss being waived?", or "Have you witnessed any blatant violations of team protocol?"
 
Maybe he thought Chilly was responsible for hiring the caterer and this is all just a big misunderstanding.

The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.Tinucci's in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss' alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
 
What kind of questions do you think were asked in the meetings that "included discussions about Childress"?
I seriously doubt he asked players "should we fire Childress?"Players may have offered their opinions about it, but they probably were not asked point blank.The article suggests he might be collecting evidence to fie him "with cause", so he was probably asking questions like "When did you first hear about Moss being waived?", or "Have you witnessed any blatant violations of team protocol?"
I seriously doubt he asked that directly as well.But if he met individually with key players to discuss Childress as the article says, he clearly was asking questions about how effective a job they feel Childress is doing. The chain of command as respect for managers, from the bottom and top, has clearly dissolved, if it ever existed, on the team.
 
This is getting uglier than a Rand Paul rally.

If Childress had any balls he would bench Favre, instead of trying to protect his own butt by getting rid of their best player.

 
Heard a separate report that it happened in the tunnel right after the game.
I believe it happened in the Patriots locker room where Wilf was meeting with the Krafts, and then Wilf pulled Childress aside met eith him.

 
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I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.

Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?

 
I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?
New Republican legislature, probably means non-Indian gambling in MN with some of the revenues being used for a new Viking stadium. Moss/Childress will have little to no impact.
 
I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?
New Republican legislature, probably means non-Indian gambling in MN with some of the revenues being used for a new Viking stadium. Moss/Childress will have little to no impact.
Interesting as PFT seemed to indicate that a Republican legislature might make it more likely the Vikings depart.And of course PFT is never wrong :yes:Btw, the caterer is absolutely killing it in terms of how to handle this kind of situation :goodposting: -QG
 
I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?
New Republican legislature, probably means non-Indian gambling in MN with some of the revenues being used for a new Viking stadium. Moss/Childress will have little to no impact.
Interesting as PFT seemed to indicate that a Republican legislature might make it more likely the Vikings depart.And of course PFT is never wrong :lol:Btw, the caterer is absolutely killing it in terms of how to handle this kind of situation :thumbup: -QG
A Republican legislature makes it less likely that there will be state or metro wide taxes for a new stadium but makes it much much more likey in my opinion that there will be a Racino at Canterbury and possibly slots at MoA and other places. The DFL is in the pocket of the Indian tribes and would have never allowed an expansion of non-Indian gaming.Again just my opinion.
 
Just because it's Randy Moss doesn't mean he's wrong about Childress. Shoot the messenger not the message! :shrug:

 
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.
Yes what kind of idiot would pay $600M for a business and then actively monitor things like the performance of top management, workplace atmosphere, employee satisfaction, perceptions within the organization, etc.Of course the specific incident you interpreted as Wilf "meeting with players" was really probably a heated Randy Moss blowing a gasket as he came off the field after a frustrating loss. "In no uncertain terms" = lots of yelling and cursing.
 
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How many players saying "Fire the guy" will it take for Zygi to fire the guy? 15? 20?

A DVD dropped on his desk with certain key decisions that were botched by Chilly, done up "NFL Bloopers" style, would probably do the trick.
While that's all fair, Childress didn't throw the killer INT in the NFC title game. If Favre sucks it up for ONE play even though his ankle is killing him, and falls forward for a few yards, Longwell likely kicks them into the Super Bowl and there's a good chance they win.Childress would be looked upon much differently had that happened.

That said, his play calling is head-scratching at best, and AWFUL at worst.

EDIT: Or is Bevell to blame for the play calling???
...and what if Santa Claus was real?
 
Ghost Rider said:
Avery said:
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?
Where does it say that they met up to discuss that?
It has been reported multiple times now by local media outlets with good connections (Paul Allen/KFAN - vikings radio broadcaster and sports talk show host) that Zygi has been meeting with players like Jared Allen, ADP, Harvin, and Favre to discuss the head coaching position over the last week or two.
 
Yessssssssss. Now do what you do, Zygi. Win or loss this weekend, you have to cut a guy who'll sacrifice a player and a 3rd round pick to save his own job instead of trying to win the player over. ASININE.

 
davearm said:
Avery said:
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.
Yes what kind of idiot would pay $600M for a business and then actively monitor things like the performance of top management, workplace atmosphere, employee satisfaction, perceptions within the organization, etc.Of course the specific incident you interpreted as Wilf "meeting with players" was really probably a heated Randy Moss blowing a gasket as he came off the field after a frustrating loss. "In no uncertain terms" = lots of yelling and cursing.
First, I didn't interpret it as a meeting. I merely quoted the article that said he was meeting.Second, I didn't call him an idiot. Just the head of a dysfunctional organization and he is contributing to the dysfunctionality. It's all well and good if the head of any organization, be it a sports team, company or a country, talks to the base level workers to gauge the functionality of their organization. It's different to ask the workers about the performance of middle management directly. It undercuts those managers and ensures that they cannot be effective.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Maybe he thought Chilly was responsible for hiring the caterer and this is all just a big misunderstanding.

The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.Tinucci's in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss' alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
Wow, the first 50 people? Oooohhhhh. How daring! Seriously, getting that kind of publicity for 50 meals?
 
Ghost Rider said:
LOL at calling Moss their best player.
I should have known better than to call any one player any teams 'best' player. How 'bout 'one of their best players'? Which is a list that both Moss and Favre are not currently on.
 
Raider Nation said:
I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?
Absolutely. First, it looks like the team has no plan and is poorly managed because they trade a third round pick, which is valuable, for a player that they cut after four games. Who wants to spend half a billion dollars of public money on a poorly managed team?Second, despite the negative national press on Moss, most of which is exaggerated (unlike many players he has never been charged with any felony crime), he is an icon in MN. Most of us remember his in 99 when the Vikings had a 15-1 team. And many of us were not happy when the Vikings let him go a few years in the first place.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Maybe he thought Chilly was responsible for hiring the caterer and this is all just a big misunderstanding.

The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.Tinucci's in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss' alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
Wow, the first 50 people? Oooohhhhh. How daring! Seriously, getting that kind of publicity for 50 meals?
I love how this guy is trying to milk the publicity from the fact that his food probably sucks. Folks, let's remember, this guy wasn't donating his food. He was making $ by catering. And who really cares? It has nothing to do with football and whether the team has a plan and knows what it is doing. This is the biggest Red Herring I have ever seen. Complete misdirection from the fact that the team wasted what may turn out to be a high third round pick.
 
Vikings owner discusses state of team with Vikings veterans

Team owner Zygi Wilf spent a second day at the Minnesota Vikings' practice facility on Thursday, watching practice, talking with coach Brad Childress and several veteran players, and even eating lunch in the team's cafeteria.

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported, according to NFL sources, that Wilf's discussions with quarterback Brett Favre, guard Steve Hutchinson and defensive linemen Jared Allen, Kevin Williams and Pat Williams included the topic of Childress.

Wilf declined interview requests, but the newspaper reported the owner was displeased with how Childress handled the release of wide receiver Randy Moss -- not utilizing team protocols -- but perhaps not with the decision to release Moss, who skewered the Vikings' coaching staff during a postgame rant last Sunday.

Wilf could be seen talking with Childress during Thursday's practice, and the coach is aware Wilf also has talked to a cross-section of players. What impact that has remains to be seen.

"You'd have to talk to those people," Childress said.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81be...ikings-veterans

 
Any Viking fans want to see Brian Billick as the new coach? He was OC for the 15-1 Vikings team and I think he would be great in this situation - yes, he definitely wore out his welcome here in Baltimore but not before taking a pile of garbage that had never had a non-losing season and winning a Super Bowl. His greatest strength as a coach is his organization and his ability to create a shared vision of success within a franchise. After the disorganized lunacy on stark display in Minnesota right now, he could really get things straight.

 
I wonder who Randy thinks was worse, Tice or Childress? That's a very tough call. I'd rather have Mornhinweg over both.

 
Rumor has it Wilf has been talking to a few agents about their clients availability for, interest in the Minnesota coaching job. However, Billick, mentioned above apparently is not on the list so far, and the list is only of currently unemployed coaches - for whatever it's worth. Purely rumor at this point, nothing other than word from a friend.

 
davearm said:
Avery said:
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.
Yes what kind of idiot would pay $600M for a business and then actively monitor things like the performance of top management, workplace atmosphere, employee satisfaction, perceptions within the organization, etc.Of course the specific incident you interpreted as Wilf "meeting with players" was really probably a heated Randy Moss blowing a gasket as he came off the field after a frustrating loss. "In no uncertain terms" = lots of yelling and cursing.
First, I didn't interpret it as a meeting. I merely quoted the article that said he was meeting.Second, I didn't call him an idiot. Just the head of a dysfunctional organization and he is contributing to the dysfunctionality. It's all well and good if the head of any organization, be it a sports team, company or a country, talks to the base level workers to gauge the functionality of their organization. It's different to ask the workers about the performance of middle management directly. It undercuts those managers and ensures that they cannot be effective.
I've seen no evidence that Wilf has asked any players what they think of Childress specifically, or the job he's doing. IMO that's you assuming things.All we know is a) Randy Moss shot his mouth off after the game Sunday, and b) Wilf has been onsite at the Vikings' training complex this week with eyes and ears open.And b) is totally understandable given the circumstances.
 
davearm said:
Avery said:
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.
Yes what kind of idiot would pay $600M for a business and then actively monitor things like the performance of top management, workplace atmosphere, employee satisfaction, perceptions within the organization, etc.Of course the specific incident you interpreted as Wilf "meeting with players" was really probably a heated Randy Moss blowing a gasket as he came off the field after a frustrating loss. "In no uncertain terms" = lots of yelling and cursing.
I love Wilf :rolleyes:
 
FWIW, Chilly has had his legs cut from under him for some time now in particular with regard to the Favre situation. This latest episode merely highlights where Chilly has always stood in the Vikings hierarchy.

 
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TeamDingo said:
QuizGuy66 said:
TeamDingo said:
Raider Nation said:
I have not been following what's going on with the Vikings trying to get a new stadium.Could a case be made that Childress cutting Moss might impact a new stadium deal?
New Republican legislature, probably means non-Indian gambling in MN with some of the revenues being used for a new Viking stadium. Moss/Childress will have little to no impact.
Interesting as PFT seemed to indicate that a Republican legislature might make it more likely the Vikings depart.And of course PFT is never wrong :lmao:Btw, the caterer is absolutely killing it in terms of how to handle this kind of situation :thumbup: -QG
A Republican legislature makes it less likely that there will be state or metro wide taxes for a new stadium but makes it much much more likey in my opinion that there will be a Racino at Canterbury and possibly slots at MoA and other places. The DFL is in the pocket of the Indian tribes and would have never allowed an expansion of non-Indian gaming.Again just my opinion.
DFL* shoulda ran ads going negative on Childress - that would've probably kept them in the legislature :lmao: (*-DFL is the Democratic Farmer Labor party which is the Democratic party's official name in Minnesota btw)-QG
 
Limp Ditka said:
Maybe he thought Chilly was responsible for hiring the caterer and this is all just a big misunderstanding.

The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.Tinucci's in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss' alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
Wow, the first 50 people? Oooohhhhh. How daring! Seriously, getting that kind of publicity for 50 meals?
I love how this guy is trying to milk the publicity from the fact that his food probably sucks. Folks, let's remember, this guy wasn't donating his food. He was making $ by catering. And who really cares? It has nothing to do with football and whether the team has a plan and knows what it is doing. This is the biggest Red Herring I have ever seen. Complete misdirection from the fact that the team wasted what may turn out to be a high third round pick.
Prof, I am calling you out on this. You defense of Moss almost makes me put you on ignore. You have no idea what the food is like. Multiple players currently or previously on the Vikings all commented on radio clips that they thought the food was quite good. They have used this caterer for years, so I am sure does not suck. It was also reported by two different player audio segments that Moss never even tried the food, just looked at and made his wonderful pronouncement to the owner right there. I also have heard on the radio (no link) that this was not unusual behavior for Moss about "free" provided food. As to whether Moss's behavior in this had no, little, some, or a lot to do with the decision to cut him is a legit question. IMO, it had more to do with him telling Zigi after the NE game that Chilly needed to be canned, or the press conference where he exudes praise on the Patriots while slapping down the Vikings, or maybe just the basics of football - his complete lack of effort on multiple occasions in every game he played in since joining Minnesota.
 
davearm said:
Avery said:
WTF is Wilf doing meeting with players to ask if what he should do with Childress?

What a dysfunctional organization; top to bottom.
Yes what kind of idiot would pay $600M for a business and then actively monitor things like the performance of top management, workplace atmosphere, employee satisfaction, perceptions within the organization, etc.Of course the specific incident you interpreted as Wilf "meeting with players" was really probably a heated Randy Moss blowing a gasket as he came off the field after a frustrating loss. "In no uncertain terms" = lots of yelling and cursing.
First, I didn't interpret it as a meeting. I merely quoted the article that said he was meeting.Second, I didn't call him an idiot. Just the head of a dysfunctional organization and he is contributing to the dysfunctionality. It's all well and good if the head of any organization, be it a sports team, company or a country, talks to the base level workers to gauge the functionality of their organization. It's different to ask the workers about the performance of middle management directly. It undercuts those managers and ensures that they cannot be effective.
I've seen no evidence that Wilf has asked any players what they think of Childress specifically, or the job he's doing. IMO that's you assuming things.All we know is a) Randy Moss shot his mouth off after the game Sunday, and b) Wilf has been onsite at the Vikings' training complex this week with eyes and ears open.

And b) is totally understandable given the circumstances.
According to Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Wilf has spent two days at the team's facility this week. Wilf's work has included meeting with some players individually -- and the meetings reportedly have included discussions about Childress.
:confused:
 
Limp Ditka said:
Maybe he thought Chilly was responsible for hiring the caterer and this is all just a big misunderstanding.

The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.Tinucci's in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss' alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
Wow, the first 50 people? Oooohhhhh. How daring! Seriously, getting that kind of publicity for 50 meals?
I love how this guy is trying to milk the publicity from the fact that his food probably sucks. Folks, let's remember, this guy wasn't donating his food. He was making $ by catering. And who really cares? It has nothing to do with football and whether the team has a plan and knows what it is doing. This is the biggest Red Herring I have ever seen. Complete misdirection from the fact that the team wasted what may turn out to be a high third round pick.
Prof, I am calling you out on this. You defense of Moss almost makes me put you on ignore. You have no idea what the food is like. Multiple players currently or previously on the Vikings all commented on radio clips that they thought the food was quite good. They have used this caterer for years, so I am sure does not suck. It was also reported by two different player audio segments that Moss never even tried the food, just looked at and made his wonderful pronouncement to the owner right there. I also have heard on the radio (no link) that this was not unusual behavior for Moss about "free" provided food.
:thumbup: Amen. And how some of you can rip into a business owner for turning Moss' unwaranted antics into something positive is beyond me. Tinucici's basically donated 84 (that's how many free meals they gave out according to local media, not 50) meals worth of revenue in the form of clothing donations. In addition, anyone else that wanted the buffet could eat for (I'm assuming a reduced cost of) $8.40. They received negative publicity in the wake of Moss' blow up ("your food sucks") and turned it into a positive by donating to the Boys & Girls Club. I can't for the life of me figure how how that's a bad thing. Sheesh.
 
Ghost Rider said:
Childress is the knucklehead who got the 12-men in the huddle penalty prior to that, putting the Vikings in that 3rd and long. Plus, he is the dope who saw Favre get them down the field with passes, and then got all conservative and started running the ball once they got inside the 35. Not excusing Favre's INT, but the way Childress coached that last minute was absolutely atrocious.
No he didn't. He's players need to know the rules as well.
 

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