Report: Herm Edwards to KC for mid-round picks (1 Viewer)

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

From FFMastermind.com:Herman Edwards will become the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, perhaps as early as today, a person familiar with the situation told The Star-Ledger late last night. Jets GM Terry Bradway and Chiefs GM Carl Peterson spent yesterday negotiating a compensation package for the rights to Edwards, who still has two years remaining on his contract with the Jets. The Jets are believed to have requested a second-round pick in April's draft. The Chiefs do not want to go higher than a third-round selection. A first-round pick is not a possibility. The NFL must approve the deal before it can be official. If the teams cannot reach an agreement, they will ask the league to arbitrate, which is standard league procedure. Regardless, Edwards will not return to the Jets. "This is what's best for everybody," the source said. When a compensation deal is reached, the Chiefs are not expected to have any difficulty coming to an agreement on a deal with Edwards, who began his coaching career in Kansas City. The list of potential successors to Edwards includes Jets DC Donnie Henderson (defense) and OC Mike Heimerdinger (offense), recently fired HC Jim Haslett (Saints) and HC Mike Sherman (Packers), and current OC Al Saunders (Chiefs, offense), OC Gary Kubiak (Broncos, offense), DC Ron Rivera (Bears, defense) and former Jets coaches Joe Walton and Rich Kotite.

 

[Sammy B]

From FFMastermind.com:

Herman Edwards will become the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, perhaps as early as today, a person familiar with the situation told The Star-Ledger late last night. Jets GM Terry Bradway and Chiefs GM Carl Peterson spent yesterday negotiating a compensation package for the rights to Edwards, who still has two years remaining on his contract with the Jets. The Jets are believed to have requested a second-round pick in April's draft. The Chiefs do not want to go higher than a third-round selection. A first-round pick is not a possibility.

The NFL must approve the deal before it can be official. If the teams cannot reach an agreement, they will ask the league to arbitrate, which is standard league procedure. Regardless, Edwards will not return to the Jets. "This is what's best for everybody," the source said. When a compensation deal is reached, the Chiefs are not expected to have any difficulty coming to an agreement on a deal with Edwards, who began his coaching career in Kansas City.

The list of potential successors to Edwards includes Jets DC Donnie Henderson (defense) and OC Mike Heimerdinger (offense), recently fired HC Jim Haslett (Saints) and HC Mike Sherman (Packers), and current OC Al Saunders (Chiefs, offense), OC Gary Kubiak (Broncos, offense), DC Ron Rivera (Bears, defense) and former Jets coaches Joe Walton and Rich Kotite.

 

[sdsjr3]

I think Haslett got a bad rap in N.O. And it was a no-win situation regardless. He might not be a bad choice. MUCH better than Tice IMO. Dinger is a solid choice too but I hate the fact that the rumors all have Donnie going with Herm. Not cool. The Jets D is set for the next 2 years. Losing Donnie would hurt that I think.Man, I really didn't think Herm was a bad coach. But as others have stated, his game management sucks. This whole then will be fine, well, and good if the successor isn't a knee-jerk type of replacement. Bradway has an opportunity here to make up for some REALLY stupid decisions. For us Jet fans, let's hope he pulls his head out of his rear and does his homework.Tice, Walton and Kotite? Why in the name of all things crappy in the NFL are they even considerations? Seriously?

 

[msommer]

The Jets would have to do some extensive interviewing before handing the job to 'dinger.

 

[MagicMan]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye! 

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

My hope would be Mike Martz.....he needs to be a OC, not a Head COach.

Are you crazy? Kiss LJ's value bye bye then. We can't have that.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

From FFMastermind.com:

Herman Edwards will become the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, perhaps as early as today, a person familiar with the situation told The Star-Ledger late last night. Jets GM Terry Bradway and Chiefs GM Carl Peterson spent yesterday negotiating a compensation package for the rights to Edwards, who still has two years remaining on his contract with the Jets. The Jets are believed to have requested a second-round pick in April's draft. The Chiefs do not want to go higher than a third-round selection. A first-round pick is not a possibility.

The NFL must approve the deal before it can be official. If the teams cannot reach an agreement, they will ask the league to arbitrate, which is standard league procedure. Regardless, Edwards will not return to the Jets. "This is what's best for everybody," the source said. When a compensation deal is reached, the Chiefs are not expected to have any difficulty coming to an agreement on a deal with Edwards, who began his coaching career in Kansas City.

The list of potential successors to Edwards includes Jets DC Donnie Henderson (defense) and OC Mike Heimerdinger (offense), recently fired HC Jim Haslett (Saints) and HC Mike Sherman (Packers), and current OC Al Saunders (Chiefs, offense), OC Gary Kubiak (Broncos, offense), DC Ron Rivera (Bears, defense) and former Jets coaches Joe Walton and Rich Kotite.

I threw those extra candidates on there to wake up the Jets fans.

 

[BigTex]

What impact will this have on LJ?

Instead of shattering SA's TD record by 10, he'll do it by 6. He's a stud and is going to take many sharks to the promise land.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

What impact will this have on LJ?

Instead of shattering SA's TD record by 10, he'll do it by 6. He's a stud and is going to take many sharks to the promise land.

Must use "past tense" as going forward there will be nothing "sharkish" about rostering Larry Johnson as he will invariably be the cover boy on every guppy's 2006 draft magazine.

 

[Godsbrother]

From FFMastermind.com:

Herman Edwards will become the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, perhaps as early as today, a person familiar with the situation told The Star-Ledger late last night. Jets GM Terry Bradway and Chiefs GM Carl Peterson spent yesterday negotiating a compensation package for the rights to Edwards, who still has two years remaining on his contract with the Jets. The Jets are believed to have requested a second-round pick in April's draft. The Chiefs do not want to go higher than a third-round selection. A first-round pick is not a possibility.

The NFL must approve the deal before it can be official. If the teams cannot reach an agreement, they will ask the league to arbitrate, which is standard league procedure. Regardless, Edwards will not return to the Jets. "This is what's best for everybody," the source said. When a compensation deal is reached, the Chiefs are not expected to have any difficulty coming to an agreement on a deal with Edwards, who began his coaching career in Kansas City.

The list of potential successors to Edwards includes Jets DC Donnie Henderson (defense) and OC Mike Heimerdinger (offense), recently fired HC Jim Haslett (Saints) and HC Mike Sherman (Packers), and current OC Al Saunders (Chiefs, offense), OC Gary Kubiak (Broncos, offense), DC Ron Rivera (Bears, defense) and former Jets coaches Joe Walton and Rich Kotite.

I threw those extra candidates on there to wake up the Jets fans.

My son goes to Robert Morris University (outside of Pittsburgh) and Joe Walton is highly respected there. They even named the brand new stadium after him. Under Walton RMU has won five Northeast Conference titles and two I-AA mid-major national championships.

 

[Marc Levin]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye! 

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

My hope would be Mike Martz.....he needs to be a OC, not a Head COach.

Martz will NEVER accept an OC position as long as HC positions are still vacant.

 

[Marc Levin]

What impact will this have on LJ?

Instead of shattering SA's TD record by 10, he'll do it by 6. He's a stud and is going to take many sharks to the promise land.

Must use "past tense" as going forward there will be nothing "sharkish" about rostering Larry Johnson as he will invariably be the cover boy on every guppy's 2006 draft magazine.

exactly, there was nothing "shark" about picking LJ next year b4 this move.he "shark" move was having LJ rostered this PAST year w/o Priest as your first round RB.

 

[SwampDawg]

Damn. (Dolphins fan here)

Don't worry, the jets will probably continue screwing up and higher Martz and hence be worse coached.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye! 

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

Yeah, because Heimerdinger was sweet under Edwards (I know they injuries, but so what). All Herm wants to do is shorten the game and win 10-6. Good luck with that.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think Haslett got a bad rap in N.O. And it was a no-win situation regardless. He might not be a bad choice. MUCH better than Tice IMO. Dinger is a solid choice too but I hate the fact that the rumors all have Donnie going with Herm. Not cool. The Jets D is set for the next 2 years. Losing Donnie would hurt that I think.

Man, I really didn't think Herm was a bad coach. But as others have stated, his game management sucks. This whole then will be fine, well, and good if the successor isn't a knee-jerk type of replacement. Bradway has an opportunity here to make up for some REALLY stupid decisions. For us Jet fans, let's hope he pulls his head out of his rear and does his homework.

Tice, Walton and Kotite? Why in the name of all things crappy in the NFL are they even considerations? Seriously?

I think Walton and Kotitie references were a joke by the writer, in fact Walton may be dead.

 

[Marc Levin]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye! 

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

Yeah, because Heimerdinger was sweet under Edwards (I know they injuries, but so what). All Herm wants to do is shorten the game and win 10-6. Good luck with that.

Pennington and Coles best fantasy seasons were under Herm Edwards.

 

[Z-Dog]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye!

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

Yeah, because Heimerdinger was sweet under Edwards (I know they injuries, but so what). All Herm wants to do is shorten the game and win 10-6. Good luck with that.

Pennington and Coles best fantasy seasons were under Herm Edwards.

Pennington, Coles, C.Martin, and S.Moss all had terrific seasons under Edwards. The issue is pretty straighforwad. When Edwards had a healthy Pennington, he had a good offense (even with Hackett as OC). I don't fear for a self-destruct of the offense in KC.

 

[Gravity]

As a JETS fan I won't be shedding any tears if Herm leaves. And getting any picks as comp for him is sweet.My feeling is that KC is the BEST scenario for him. He is a motivator and a rah, rah guy. And he is very good at that. Not a gamplanner nor a game-day coach. Frankly he sucks at that.But at KC they already have a great Offense and if they can keep the OC intact then his job is that much easier. he handles the motivational stuff and leaves it to his already competent OC.

 

[Spiderman]

Great hire by KC! After all, look at everything Herm Edwards did in NY !

 

[Beaumont]

As a JETS fan I won't be shedding any tears if Herm leaves. And getting any picks as comp for him is sweet.

My feeling is that KC is the BEST scenario for him. He is a motivator and a rah, rah guy. And he is very good at that. Not a gamplanner nor a game-day coach. Frankly he sucks at that.

But at KC they already have a great Offense and if they can keep the OC intact then his job is that much easier. he handles the motivational stuff and leaves it to his already competent OC.

But that's part of the point for us Chiefs' fans, Al Saunders is out the door to Det or elsewhere when we bring in Edwards ... and he costs us picks, unlike Saunders ...

 

[Legion of Doom]

Not for nothing, but Herm Edwards sucks.  Why KC would want him is beyond my imagination.

best quote on this site, all year!

Edwards sucks bigtime..

You should really come around more often

 

[Dancing Bear]

This rumor may be true, but I just cannot fathom KC giving up draft picks for any coach.They need help on the Defensive side of the ball, and with their aging Offense, they need some youth there too.With all of the other coaching options out there, this just plain seems ridiculous to me!

 

[Reaper]

Great hire by KC! After all, look at everything Herm Edwards did in NY !

If nothing else - You guys are in for some GREAT press conferences and some Bang Cartoons.....

I can't believe someone would PAY for Herm....

Not ALL rosy as a Jets fan though Cuz BRADWAY was the problem..

With great coordinators and talent I think Herm CAN win and he now at least has experience... When the Jets hired him he had NO experience and they ran the team to 'Win NOW" - How the hell can you Win now when a HC has NO experience...

 

[shadyridr]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

 

[-OZ-]

Why the hell would anyone want to give up anything for Herm Edwards?

The Jets are making off like bandits here.

Not sure, especially for a coach with a losing career record.

Short answer: Carl Peterson is an idiot.Longer answer: getting Herm (his old buddy) is easy, going after Bob Stoops would have taken work.

With this move (and the fact that I'll be out of Kansas by next season) I am not longer a Chiefs fan. Horrible move Carl.

 

[-OZ-]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

He is average, but Stoops has the chance to be great.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Great hire by KC! After all, look at everything Herm Edwards did in NY !

Yeah...that's like the Patriots hiring that idiot after he sucked in Cleveland.Awful.

 

[Reaper]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

I can't really call him a COACH.He's a motivator... He NEEDS a great OC and DC to run the show and he needs someone else to evaluate talent.

His strength was supposed to be as a secondary coach, meanwhile the Jets have been signing FA Cbs and drafting safeties every year and it's a mediocre at best group with NO signs of coaching UP like a Belichik clearly shows.

If the guy can't put together and run a secondary then what the hell can he do?

His best trait was supposed to be honesty and Integrity and apparently he lied to us the past 6 months so, I'm not sure what his strengths are anymore.

GOOD LUCK.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Great hire by KC! After all, look at everything Herm Edwards did in NY !

Yeah...that's like the Patriots hiring that idiot after he sucked in Cleveland.Awful.

Tobe a great coach you have to have PLAYERS......we dont have all the players yet, thats why even a coach like Vermeil failed.

You cant make Chicken soup form CHicken......well you know how it ends.

Give Herm a couple TOUGH DTs and some DBs who want to HIT someone and play press coverage, then Herm will be just fine.

 

[Dancing Bear]

I am not on the BASH Herman Edwards wagon, but I am certainly puzzled by the fact that Carl Peterson would even remotely consider trading away draft picks for any coach.

The KC Chiefs have stunk on Defense for years. With all of the off-season acquisitions and the fact that players had another year in Cunningham's system, this Defense still stunk.

30th in Passing Yards allowed

29th in Passing TDs allowed

7th in Rushing Yards allowed

12th in Rushing TDs allowed

25th in Total Yards allowed

19th in Total TDs allowed

16th in overall scoring allowed

They cannot afford to waste draft picks on potential holes that they need to fill in order to get more competitive. The AFC West is not going to get any easier and they need to take it up another notch on Defense.

They were 4-3 this year when both teams scored 20 or more points, but they were 4-5 this year when the Defense let 20 or more points score.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

He is average, but Stoops has the chance to be great.

Stoops supposedly has no interest in trading the "quality of life" he enjoys as big time college coach for the gring that goes along with being an NFL head coach.

 

[Reaper]

Great hire by KC! After all, look at everything Herm Edwards did in NY !

Yeah...that's like the Patriots hiring that idiot after he sucked in Cleveland.Awful.

Tobe a great coach you have to have PLAYERS......we dont have all the players yet, thats why even a coach like Vermeil failed.

You cant make Chicken soup form CHicken......well you know how it ends.

Give Herm a couple TOUGH DTs and some DBs who want to HIT someone and play press coverage, then Herm will be just fine.

That would be a GOOD POST if Bellichik wasn't considered a Genius Defensive Coordinator.....See Bellichik is the Guy who "Gets in the head of Manning" Bellichik is the Guy who Devises Game plans... Bellichik is the guy who gets TALENT that fits his system and coaches these guys to play a number of different roles in a Great system...

HERM????? He has NO system - He has No Game Plans.... On the Jets he changed systems and grabbed players almost randomly and couldn't even coach or identify talent for the secondary - the ONE thing he has experience at.....

How can you Possibly compare Bellichik to Herm???? Unless your a Chiefs fan hoping for the best.....

Herm is a caretaker - A delegator... A "Good Guy" - He's NOT going to Outcoach anyone.

 

[zamboni]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH!

Agreed. People often have short memories.I, too, don't believe that Herm is a great coach, but his motivating skills go a long way to him being an effective one. Surrounding himself with solid coordinators like Donnie Henderson are of paramount importance, no doubt, and his time management skills are still a work in progress (didn't exactly need them this year).

But I think Jets fans are unfairly putting Herm under the bus for this lost year. I think Bradway should get much more of the blame than Herm, who can only coach who's on his roster.

 

[Z-Dog]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

I can't really call him a COACH.He's a motivator... He NEEDS a great OC and DC to run the show and he needs someone else to evaluate talent.

His strength was supposed to be as a secondary coach, meanwhile the Jets have been signing FA Cbs and drafting safeties every year and it's a mediocre at best group with NO signs of coaching UP like a Belichik clearly shows.

If the guy can't put together and run a secondary then what the hell can he do?

His best trait was supposed to be honesty and Integrity and apparently he lied to us the past 6 months so, I'm not sure what his strengths are anymore.

GOOD LUCK.

Most coaches need top assistants - that's why the great coaches spawened coaching trees from their top assistants. Herm was no different in this than any other coach. Edwards' greatest weakness was in-game clock management, but that's a relatviely small area of expertise.As for his coaching ability, Edwards took the Jets to playoffs three times in five years. All of those times, his teams were never projected to be playoff teams in the preseason. His defense has finished in the top-10 the past two years. As for his abilities in coaching the secondary, he's been able to have a top-10 defense with 5th-rounders Erik Coleman and Kherry Rhodes as the starting safeties, and with cornerbacks like David Barrett, Donnie Abraham, and an oft-flagged Ty Law.

It's extremely difficult to evaluate a coach, but Edwards has been, by the numbers, the most succesful coach in NYJ history. He has gotten little help from top draft picks or FAs (b/c Bradway blows). Think about it: since Edwards got to NY, no Jets draft pick or FA Bradway selected has made the pro bowl, with the exception of Ty Law this year. From Damien Robinson to Justin McCareins to Dewayne Robertson to David Barett to Doug Jolley, none of the big trades or signings have brought in a special player. The best FA moves the Jets have made in recent years were Pete Kendall, Eric Barton, who was injured all year this year, and Aussie punter Ben Graham. That's not a lot of talent to work with. Edwards has done a very good job of playing with the guys he has, and with keeping the organization from imploding or getting caught up in off-the-field distractions and stupidity. He's well-liked by his players, and by the media, and he's highly respected in league circles. Certainly he offers more credibility to a franchise than any other prospect who is actually available.

 

[zamboni]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

I can't really call him a COACH.He's a motivator... He NEEDS a great OC and DC to run the show and he needs someone else to evaluate talent.

His strength was supposed to be as a secondary coach, meanwhile the Jets have been signing FA Cbs and drafting safeties every year and it's a mediocre at best group with NO signs of coaching UP like a Belichik clearly shows.

If the guy can't put together and run a secondary then what the hell can he do?

His best trait was supposed to be honesty and Integrity and apparently he lied to us the past 6 months so, I'm not sure what his strengths are anymore.

GOOD LUCK.

Most coaches need top assistants - that's why the great coaches spawened coaching trees from their top assistants. Herm was no different in this than any other coach. Edwards' greatest weakness was in-game clock management, but that's a relatviely small area of expertise.As for his coaching ability, Edwards took the Jets to playoffs three times in five years. All of those times, his teams were never projected to be playoff teams in the preseason. His defense has finished in the top-10 the past two years. As for his abilities in coaching the secondary, he's been able to have a top-10 defense with 5th-rounders Erik Coleman and Kherry Rhodes as the starting safeties, and with cornerbacks like David Barrett, Donnie Abraham, and an oft-flagged Ty Law.

It's extremely difficult to evaluate a coach, but Edwards has been, by the numbers, the most succesful coach in NYJ history. He has gotten little help from top draft picks or FAs (b/c Bradway blows). Think about it: since Edwards got to NY, no Jets draft pick or FA Bradway selected has made the pro bowl, with the exception of Ty Law this year. From Damien Robinson to Justin McCareins to Dewayne Robertson to David Barett to Doug Jolley, none of the big trades or signings have brought in a special player. The best FA moves the Jets have made in recent years were Pete Kendall, Eric Barton, who was injured all year this year, and Aussie punter Ben Graham. That's not a lot of talent to work with. Edwards has done a very good job of playing with the guys he has, and with keeping the organization from imploding or getting caught up in off-the-field distractions and stupidity. He's well-liked by his players, and by the media, and he's highly respected in league circles. Certainly he offers more credibility to a franchise than any other prospect who is actually available.

Nicely said, Z-Dog. Essentially my thoughts, only much more elaborate and eloquent.

 

[brednbuddah]

disheartening news to say the least. KC got a great motivator/good coach and someone who'll each player will go the extra mile for.

 

[-OZ-]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

He is average, but Stoops has the chance to be great.

Stoops supposedly has no interest in trading the "quality of life" he enjoys as big time college coach for the gring that goes along with being an NFL head coach.

I've heard conflicting reports on that, but it would take some courting.The problem I have here isn't so much against Edwards, he's a good coach, but the situation here - he's a Peterson buddy and the Chiefs have to compensate for him. IMHO, he isn't the best guy available even if Stoops won't leave OU. I'd look at other coordinators, like Ron Rivera who while young, has proven to be one thing the Chiefs need - a great defensive mind.

 

[Autumn Wind]

Love this move as a Raiders fan. So Herm is a great motivator? I guess that means KC will at least feel real good when they lose because of Herm's boneheaded game management.

 

[Gravity]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

Based on what? I can't remember a single game where he really out-coached or out-manuevered the competitions coach. In the NFL, with parity and talent so close these days, its game-planning and game-day decisions that win games. Herm does not win those games.

I loved Herm when he first joined the JETS. We all did. But the slow starts and terribly conservative (you play to win by game-ending FG) play calling wore thin after a few years. And remember, he inherited a VERY good team.

 

[Q-Bert]

Hey Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez and Eddie Kennison, that's your fantasy value waving bye-bye! 

That made me laugh....too funny.If Herm Edwards comes here, the question then becomes who will be the OC? Norv Turner?

My hope would be Mike Martz.....he needs to be a OC, not a Head COach.

Are you crazy? Kiss LJ's value bye bye then. We can't have that.

You see this type of comment a lot regarding Martz. But people seem to forget that Marshall Faulk finished 4, 6, 17, and 3 among running backs in Indy and then 2, 1, and 1 with Martz as his OC/HC in St. Louis. I hardly think the last few seasons with an oft-injured Faulk are the best examples of Martz' impact on a running back's fantasy stats.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

not so fast...

Edwards to KC talks stalled

 

[zamboni]

not so fast...

Edwards to KC talks stalled

If it's down to splitting hairs over draft picks, it still sounds like a deal that will get done.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

not so fast...

Edwards to KC talks stalled

If it's down to splitting hairs over draft picks, it still sounds like a deal that will get done.

Peterson has already demonstrated the ability to screw up a one car parade in contract negotiations. It would not be too big of a surprise to see him pull up stakes and move on, despite his man crush on Edwards.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

What is to be made of this story? (Dated yesterday)Who's fueling the Edwards-to-K.C. stories? Not the ChiefsExcerpt:

Let me make this quick: Kansas City president Carl Peterson is not in New York. He's not negotiating to make a deal for Jets coach Herman Edwards. And he hasn't asked for permission to speak to Edwards. Herman Edwards has two years left on his Jets contract. (Getty Images) In fact, Edwards isn't on the Chiefs' radar. Not yet. He might if he was out of his contract, and that's what this whole Herman Edwards-to-Kansas City uproar is about. Herman Edwards' contract.

 

[BigTex]

What impact will this have on LJ?

Instead of shattering SA's TD record by 10, he'll do it by 6. He's a stud and is going to take many sharks to the promise land.

Must use "past tense" as going forward there will be nothing "sharkish" about rostering Larry Johnson as he will invariably be the cover boy on every guppy's 2006 draft magazine.

That's were your wrong my friend, because in a Dynasty league the sharks have "already" claimed him.Good day

 

[BigTex]

What impact will this have on LJ?

Instead of shattering SA's TD record by 10, he'll do it by 6. He's a stud and is going to take many sharks to the promise land.

Must use "past tense" as going forward there will be nothing "sharkish" about rostering Larry Johnson as he will invariably be the cover boy on every guppy's 2006 draft magazine.

exactly, there was nothing "shark" about picking LJ next year b4 this move.he "shark" move was having LJ rostered this PAST year w/o Priest as your first round RB.

Mark I spoke in present tense about the future.................like I've said the "sharks" already have him.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

This Herm bashing is ridiculous. Is he a GREAT coach? NO! Is he an above average coach? HELL YEAH! Hes certainly better than all of the other coaching candidates floating around.

He is average, but Stoops has the chance to be great.

Stoops supposedly has no interest in trading the "quality of life" he enjoys as big time college coach for the gring that goes along with being an NFL head coach.

I've heard conflicting reports on that, but it would take some courting.The problem I have here isn't so much against Edwards, he's a good coach, but the situation here - he's a Peterson buddy and the Chiefs have to compensate for him. IMHO, he isn't the best guy available even if Stoops won't leave OU. I'd look at other coordinators, like Ron Rivera who while young, has proven to be one thing the Chiefs need - a great defensive mind.

I am not so sure about Rivera being a great defensive mind. What you have is a guy with 2 years of DC experience under a HC who is a great defensive mind. I don't really like giving up draft choices for a head coach but I certainly don't want a first time NFL head coach in KC. You need someone who delegates. You need someone who motivates. You need someone who surrounds themselves with good coordinators.

 

[Red Apples]

nfl today reports that jets want a 3rd & a 5th, which is below market value. so the jets just want to get rid of herm.

 

[brednbuddah]

nfl today reports that jets want a 3rd & a 5th, which is below market value. so the jets just want to get rid of herm.

espn reports a 4th and 5th. Peterson wants to spread the picks over two drafts. This is probably the snag.link

 

[DDs]

nfl today reports that jets want a 3rd & a 5th, which is below market value.  so the jets just want to get rid of herm.

espn reports a 4th and 5th. Peterson wants to spread the picks over two drafts. This is probably the snag.link

I don't get KC giving up any high draft picks to get Edwards.. It sounds like the Jets don't want Herm as their coach anymore - so if this falls thru will they just fire him anyway? and then he would be free to hire anywhere... the whole thing doesn't make sense

 

[Z-Dog]

nfl today reports that jets want a 3rd & a 5th, which is below market value. so the jets just want to get rid of herm.

espn reports a 4th and 5th. Peterson wants to spread the picks over two drafts. This is probably the snag.link

I don't get KC giving up any high draft picks to get Edwards.. It sounds like the Jets don't want Herm as their coach anymore - so if this falls thru will they just fire him anyway? and then he would be free to hire anywhere... the whole thing doesn't make sense

The Jets are in a weird place. Herm Edwards is a pretty good coach, but he may be no better than the 3rd-best coach in the AFC East, and that's pending whatver happens in Buffalo. The problem is that after five years of below-market salaries, Edwards wants a real extension with a real salary, and it appears that Woody Johnson hasn't been won over. Maybe it's because Edwards really wants to go to KC. Maybe he's just unhappy in NY, which wouldn't surprise me, given how poorly Bradway has drafted, traded, and signed over the last few years. BUt another thing to remember is that Edwards wanted and received on extension after going 6-10 two years back, and I think Johnson might be loathe to extend him again after a 4-12 season. As for the picks, I don't see why it's below market value. **** Vermeil, coming off of a Superbowl victory and a large body of NFL work, along with a revolutionary offense, was worth a 2nd and a 3rd. Edwards, coming off of smaller achievements and with no titles, is worth a 3rd and a 4th? Not at all unreasonable. That's especially true if there's no real chance that Herm returns to NY.

My issue is this: if Herm goes to KC, the Jets need a new coach. But Bradway also has only two years lef ton his contract - is he going to sign a new coach to a 4-year deal? That strikes me as odd. If the end result of this is that the Jets lose Edwards, extend Bradway for two years, and gain a 3rd and a 4th, I'd say they got the smelly end of the stick. What they need to do is fire Bradway, promote Mike Tannenbaum (who almost became the Bucs GM), and have Tannenbaum find a coach.