Report: Newton leaves Auburn for NFL Draft (1 Viewer)

[faulkfan]

He is a great swing for the fences for a team who has limited needs at other positions and a couple extra picks, but I would hate to be the GM who stakes his reputation on Cam figuring it out. There is the smell of Akili Smith wafting from his direction.

Besides being big and black, what does Akili Smith have to do with Newton? Smith wasnt nearly as mobile as Newton and neither was Jamarcus Russell.Newton's so-called character issues will have no bearing on how he is viewed by NFL teams. You think NFL teams care that he ended up with a stolen laptop. The accusations against Reggie Bush didnt hurt his draft stock. If it was found out Andrew Luck cheated on his SAT's to get into Stanford, he suddenly is no longer the number 1 pick?

NFL teams care about whether you can perform on the field. Newton hasnt been in trouble for DUI, domestic abuse, drugs or anything of the such that would raise flags for an NFL team.

So, my question is this. What about his game makes so many think he will flop. He has the arm to make all NFL throws, he is mobile, and his teammates love him. He has played great with all the distractions going on around him.

To say he cant read a defense is fine, but the Auburn offense wasnt set up for him to make multiple reads so he may or may not be able to do it at a pro level.

Why are so many so certain he will flop? Looking for some kind of concrete analysis not just "gut feel".

My bad. He has the smell of David Klingler, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Matt Leinhart wafting from his direction. Folks who couldn't adjust to the pro game.I will reiterate that I am not questioning his skill I would just rather not stake my reputation on him if I was an NFL GM. It sounds as though you would be okay with that and that is great. Different strokes and that whole thing. If I were an OC I would be worrying about just how much I would have to rearrange my offense to fit the guy. Perhaps a team like Carolina would be perfect since they have no offense so molding it to fit him wouldn't be a big deal.

With the amount of money a first round QB gets paid, "may or may not" is kind of a scary gamble.

 

[atl3695]

He is a great swing for the fences for a team who has limited needs at other positions and a couple extra picks, but I would hate to be the GM who stakes his reputation on Cam figuring it out. There is the smell of Akili Smith wafting from his direction.

Besides being big and black, what does Akili Smith have to do with Newton? Smith wasnt nearly as mobile as Newton and neither was Jamarcus Russell.Newton's so-called character issues will have no bearing on how he is viewed by NFL teams. You think NFL teams care that he ended up with a stolen laptop. The accusations against Reggie Bush didnt hurt his draft stock. If it was found out Andrew Luck cheated on his SAT's to get into Stanford, he suddenly is no longer the number 1 pick?

NFL teams care about whether you can perform on the field. Newton hasnt been in trouble for DUI, domestic abuse, drugs or anything of the such that would raise flags for an NFL team.

So, my question is this. What about his game makes so many think he will flop. He has the arm to make all NFL throws, he is mobile, and his teammates love him. He has played great with all the distractions going on around him.

To say he cant read a defense is fine, but the Auburn offense wasnt set up for him to make multiple reads so he may or may not be able to do it at a pro level.

Why are so many so certain he will flop? Looking for some kind of concrete analysis not just "gut feel".

My bad. He has the smell of David Klingler, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Matt Leinhart wafting from his direction. Folks who couldn't adjust to the pro game.I will reiterate that I am not questioning his skill I would just rather not stake my reputation on him if I was an NFL GM. It sounds as though you would be okay with that and that is great. Different strokes and that whole thing. If I were an OC I would be worrying about just how much I would have to rearrange my offense to fit the guy. Perhaps a team like Carolina would be perfect since they have no offense so molding it to fit him wouldn't be a big deal.

With the amount of money a first round QB gets paid, "may or may not" is kind of a scary gamble.

I haven't seen Newton play enough to have a firm opinion as I am not a huge fan of college ball. My point was that Akili Smith, Klinger, and Leinart being successful or unsuccessful have nothing to do with whether Newton will be as he has a different skillset. Lots of people didnt like Tebow but at least had reasons. Throwing motion, arm strength, etc. With Newton it just seems people arent pointing out flaws in his game but just have a "hunch". If you don't doubt his skills than what is it you don't like? What about his game makes you think an OC would have to completely revamp the offense? EVERY college player is "may or may not" until they prove it at the pro level. More top 10 drafted qb's flop than go on to become quality starters. The draft is by nature risky, even when taking a "cant miss" QB like Leaf, Couch, or Alex Smith. A mid to late 1st rounder seems to be about the right spot to pick a player like Newton.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Dilfer just called Newton's workout today "one of the most phenomenal personal workouts I've ever seen".

He really can't stop raving about Newton. Calls him a "top 5 pick", says "there's only so many people on the planet that can throw the ball like he can".

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Dilfer just called Newton's workout today "one of the most phenomenal personal workouts I've ever seen". He really can't stop raving about Newton. Calls him a "top 5 pick", says "there's only so many people on the planet that can throw the ball like he can".

Lots of big arm QBs never panned out.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He's like a faster, blacker, stronger armed, less studious, non-religious version of Tim Tebow.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Dilfer just called Newton's workout today "one of the most phenomenal personal workouts I've ever seen".

He really can't stop raving about Newton. Calls him a "top 5 pick", says "there's only so many people on the planet that can throw the ball like he can".

While I like Newton's prospects, bear in mind that Dilfer also said last offseason that Sam Bradford would be an absolute disaster at the NFL level.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's like a faster, blacker, stronger armed, less studious, non-religious version of Tim Tebow.

with a better hair style.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Dilfer just called Newton's workout today "one of the most phenomenal personal workouts I've ever seen".

He really can't stop raving about Newton. Calls him a "top 5 pick", says "there's only so many people on the planet that can throw the ball like he can".

While I like Newton's prospects, bear in mind that Dilfer also said last offseason that Sam Bradford would be an absolute disaster at the NFL level.

To his credit he did come forward and admit he was wrong. He also thought Colt McCoy would be pretty good - and so far Colt has surprised just about everyone by looking like he belongs in the NFL.

 

[pantherclub]

Dilfer just called Newton's workout today "one of the most phenomenal personal workouts I've ever seen". He really can't stop raving about Newton. Calls him a "top 5 pick", says "there's only so many people on the planet that can throw the ball like he can".

Jamarcus comes to mindArm strength in the NFL is insanely overrated.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Anyone that takes anything away from Newton's workout is a moron IMO. Everyone already knows that he has a strong arm and is very athletic. What we really want to know is:

1). Can he read NFL defenses

2). Can he make smart decisions with the ball

3). Can he be NFL accurate

4) Will he work hard

5). Will he have off the field problems

If the answers to those are yes, yes, yes, yes, no, then he could be a stud. But accuracy is the only one of those attribute we could see in a workout. And even then I'd prefer a workout designed by the coaches, not his people.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Reportedly 6 teams have Newton as the #1 player on their boards:

NFL Draft/Pre-Combine Insider Report

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Feb

Number 1 on draft boards?

From the underclassmen watch, through a week of practice at the Shrine Game and Senior Bowl respectively and onwards to the NFL combine we go. We will be keeping you up-to-date with our ever expanding Insider Report from now until February 24th, when the fun starts in Indianapolis.

- Last week in San Antonio at least six different teams said they rank Auburn quarterback Cam Newton as the number one prospect in the draft. The opinions were comprised from scouts, personnel directors and a few coaches. All had Newton rated clearly higher than Da’Quan Bowers, Nick Fairley, Marcel Dareus and competing signal caller Blaine Gabbert. We hear the Miami Dolphins have been inquiring heavily into Newton at this stage of the game.

Even with that we hear all is not peaceful in the Newton camp.

Last year Tim Tebow released a video prior to the combine, revealing his improved throwing mechanics. Newton will take it one step further with his “media day” which is scheduled for tomorrow. Many in the Newton camp are against the show tomorrow and most of the scouts we spoke with think its’ foolish. They will frown upon it more if Newton does not throw at the combine, and according to sources familiar with the situation as of now the game plan is to hold him out of the throwing workout at Lucas Oil Stadium on February 27th. Obviously that’s subject to change.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4627

 

[moderated]

He's like a faster, blacker, stronger armed, less studious, non-religious version of Tim Tebow.

Also while people bash his dad he keeps cam on track and from everything ive heard cam doesn't hang out with bad friends and works hard at becoming the best. Sure his dad tried to get paid, but he's always kept cam on the straight and narrow away from drugs, gangs, and losers.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Was Cam's father charging admission?

 

[Concept Coop]

He's like a faster, blacker, stronger armed, less studious, non-religious version of Tim Tebow.

Also while people bash his dad he keeps cam on track and from everything ive heard cam doesn't hang out with bad friends and works hard at becoming the best. Sure his dad tried to get paid, but he's always kept cam on the straight and narrow away from drugs, gangs, and losers.

Cam stole a laptop and got caught cheating on tests. I don't think that is a reason to assume he will have issues in the NFL. But I wouldn't call him him straight and narrow.

 

[QB Bills]

With the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select . . .

 

[moderated]

He's like a faster, blacker, stronger armed, less studious, non-religious version of Tim Tebow.

Also while people bash his dad he keeps cam on track and from everything ive heard cam doesn't hang out with bad friends and works hard at becoming the best. Sure his dad tried to get paid, but he's always kept cam on the straight and narrow away from drugs, gangs, and losers.

Cam stole a laptop and got caught cheating on tests. I don't think that is a reason to assume he will have issues in the NFL. But I wouldn't call him him straight and narrow.

I thought he bought a stolen laptop and didn't actually steal it himself?Id say over 50% of people in college have cheated in one way or another, but only 2% ever get caught. So he was dumb to get caught bet he's hardly in a minority.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

With the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select . . .

The Bills don't exactly have a track record of making smart picks. And Cam would be a great pick.

 

[QB Bills]

With the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select . . .

The Bills don't exactly have a track record of making smart picks. And Cam would be a great pick.

You are totally right. However, if there ever was a prototypical Chan Gailey quarterback, Cam Newton is it.

 

[Mello]

With the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select . . .

This would surprise me less than the Spiller pick.

 

[GroveDiesel]

With the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select . . .

This would surprise me less than the Spiller pick.

Wes Bunting, a very good draft analyst has the Bills taking him at #3. I have no idea how I feel about it. The guy has the potential to be a stud NFL QB. But he also has huge bust potential. If he ends up in Buffalo, that worries me that he'll b heading toward huge bust. On the other hand, Gailey does a great job with QBs and has made guys like Tyler Thigpen and Ryan Fitzpatrick look good. All that being said, I don't know how Buffalo can possibly neglect the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The Bills have so many holes they can take just about any position and it would fill a need. Then again, they managed to screw things up with the Spiller pick so who knows what's going on with that franchise.

 

[Jason Wood]

I never understand the hype behind these stages personal QB workouts. They're designed to show you a QB in OPTIMAL conditions. Everything from the schedule to the temperature to the route tree to the receivers to the pace are all planned to optimize the player. Remember when Alex Smith had his workout? Or [insert QB prospect here]. What did this workout show Dilfer that he didn't already know? I'm kind of baffled at Dilfer's praise here because all it tells me is that he really hasn't studied any film of Newton. If he had studied film, how could what Newton showed in games not be far more valuable than what he saw today?

 

[Sweet Love]

Are there any QBs who had a run-first mentality when they joined the league, who were successful at the pro-level, and DID NOT find success (eventually) in a WCO? The main two who did are Vick and Young...McNabb had some giddy-up, but embraced the passing aspect of the game pretty quickly (he rarely "relied" on his wheels). I shutter everytime someone brings up how "dynamic" a running QB can be...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Are there any QBs who had a run-first mentality when they joined the league, who were successful at the pro-level, and DID NOT find success (eventually) in a WCO? The main two who did are Vick and Young...McNabb had some giddy-up, but embraced the passing aspect of the game pretty quickly (he rarely "relied" on his wheels). I shutter everytime someone brings up how "dynamic" a running QB can be...

Steve McNair and Donovan McNabb both transitioned from running QBs into pocket passers. McNabb ran quite a bit early in his career. McNair more so.From my limited viewing of Newton (4 games), it seems that he can throw pretty well and isn't strictly a running QB.

 

[comfortably numb]

I never understand the hype behind these stages personal QB workouts. They're designed to show you a QB in OPTIMAL conditions. Everything from the schedule to the temperature to the route tree to the receivers to the pace are all planned to optimize the player. Remember when Alex Smith had his workout? Or [insert QB prospect here]. What did this workout show Dilfer that he didn't already know? I'm kind of baffled at Dilfer's praise here because all it tells me is that he really hasn't studied any film of Newton. If he had studied film, how could what Newton showed in games not be far more valuable than what he saw today?

I never understood why these workouts get any hype to be honestYou watch someone in game situations for 1-2-3 years, then you get all excited or disappointed based on a workout in tights?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Are there any QBs who had a run-first mentality when they joined the league, who were successful at the pro-level, and DID NOT find success (eventually) in a WCO? The main two who did are Vick and Young...McNabb had some giddy-up, but embraced the passing aspect of the game pretty quickly (he rarely "relied" on his wheels). I shutter everytime someone brings up how "dynamic" a running QB can be...

Interesting question. I'm sure there have been a few examples but in all honesty I don't think there's a big enough sample size to draw any conclusions. Alex Smith didn't have a run first mentality but he was a bit of a scrambler.