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Respectablity is Reached?--Washington Wizards 2014-2015 Regular Season (1 Viewer)

Congrats to the Wiz. A home win with Toronto on the 2nd night of a back-to-back in a different city. But anyone who watched this game knows that the leopard hasn't changed its spots and Les Wiz are still pretty turrible. I fully expect a new losing streak to start tonight in Chicago...
Well of course. They're playing on the road in Chicago, then they've got a home and home with the surprisingly good Sixers.They definitely changed things up last night though. Started Booker and Singleton, gave Vesely significant minutes ... obviously the new plan is to start the kids. This leopard's spots will definitely be different from here on out, although I don't know if they'll be any less ugly.
 
Back down to reality tonight against a Bulls team without Rose.

The good news is they held them to 78,the bad is they scored a franchise low 64 :lmao:

:bag:

 
Back down to reality tonight against a Bulls team without Rose.The good news is they held them to 78,the bad is they scored a franchise low 64 :lmao: :bag:
In their four home games so far, the Bulls have held their opponents to 64, 74, 68 and 64 points. Of course, 64 deserves a :bag: but perhaps it's not as bad as it might seem at first.
 
The loss last night could easily be the first of 7 in a row, given the schedule posted up-thread.
Rockets at home is winnable, although I'm guessing they'll be a slight underdog. Not sure about any other game before February, though. I put the over/under at 11 wins for the season. I think they find three road wins somewhere and go 8-25 at home. New traditions!
 
Horrible loss (120-89) in Philly last night to run their record to 1-10. John Wall with another lackluster and disinterested possession.

 
Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.

1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.

Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.

Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,

 
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Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,
Can he take Nick Young with him?
 
Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,
Can he take Nick Young with him?
In a perfect world yes :thumbup:
 
Interesting play that resulted is McGee getting benched.

Wall gets it and gives the perfect answer but sadly Young is clueless.The team is 1-11 at the time and down in the game so while it did look pretty it was really not needed at all.Get up in a game by a good margin and then showoff but not when your team is a bad as this one is and still trailing.

 
'tom22406 said:
Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,
Can he take Nick Young with him?
In a perfect world yes :thumbup:
They should both be gone after this season. Young will be a FA again, and I think they'll amnesty Blatche. His deal isn't that expensive but it's long term. I think they can buy out Lewis after this season for $10 million. Then they've got a clean slate. Eric Gordon's a restricted free agent for a team that doesn't have an owner yet- he'd be a nice upgrade from Nick Young. Add Kidd-Gilchrist, Perry Jones, Harrison Barnes or Thomas Robinson (local!) and at least you're close to making your tickets worth the price of admission.And a ray of hope amid all this misery- for perhaps the first time since he arrived in DC, yesterday you could watch John Wall and see a future superstar.
 
'tom22406 said:
Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.

1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.

Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.

Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,
Can he take Nick Young with him?
In a perfect world yes :thumbup:
They should both be gone after this season. Young will be a FA again, and I think they'll amnesty Blatche. His deal isn't that expensive but it's long term. I think they can buy out Lewis after this season for $10 million. Then they've got a clean slate. Eric Gordon's a restricted free agent for a team that doesn't have an owner yet- he'd be a nice upgrade from Nick Young. Add Kidd-Gilchrist, Perry Jones, Harrison Barnes or Thomas Robinson (local!) and at least you're close to making your tickets worth the price of admission.And a ray of hope amid all this misery- for perhaps the first time since he arrived in DC, yesterday you could watch John Wall and see a future superstar.
Unfortunately, he'll be a superstar for some other, big-market and traditional winner, team.
 
'tom22406 said:
Wall was outstanding today but the rest of the team was MIA against a team they could have beaten.

1-12 after a 114-106 loss to the Rockets at home.

Wall was great at blowing past everyone today and going hard to the hole which is really all he has at this point since his jumper is MIA as well.

Blatche needs to be shipped out ASAP.He was the one crying he needs to be used more in the post and yet he still parks himself at 20 feet all game long,
Can he take Nick Young with him?
In a perfect world yes :thumbup:
They should both be gone after this season. Young will be a FA again, and I think they'll amnesty Blatche. His deal isn't that expensive but it's long term. I think they can buy out Lewis after this season for $10 million. Then they've got a clean slate. Eric Gordon's a restricted free agent for a team that doesn't have an owner yet- he'd be a nice upgrade from Nick Young. Add Kidd-Gilchrist, Perry Jones, Harrison Barnes or Thomas Robinson (local!) and at least you're close to making your tickets worth the price of admission.And a ray of hope amid all this misery- for perhaps the first time since he arrived in DC, yesterday you could watch John Wall and see a future superstar.
Unfortunately, he'll be a superstar for some other, big-market and traditional winner, team.
They've got a lot of time left, plus they can give him an extension any time before his deal expires after the 2014-2015 season that pays him more than his rookie deal, which he'd be crazy not to take. Most elite young players take at least one extension from the team that drafted them- even guys like LeBron in places like Cleveland.
 
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Shocked I tell ya in beating OKC tonight.OKC missed a ton of easy shots and almost tied it up late but the Wiz held them off to move to 2-12.

Saunders just needs to let them run since it seems that's what they are built to do with the talent they have.

 
Mama McGee on JaVale and the Wiz: "My son is the future of the NBA. I don’t want him to be part of this culture of losing forever.” And many, many other hilarious statements.

The saga of the most interesting 2-12 team in sports history continues.

 
Mama McGee on JaVale and the Wiz: "My son is the future of the NBA. I don’t want him to be part of this culture of losing forever.” And many, many other hilarious statements.

The saga of the most interesting 2-12 team in sports history continues.
There were actually some other interesting points in that article in regard to McGee and his development (or lack thereof) with the Wiz.
 
Prediction: Wiz win tonight, and then manage to keep ratio of wins to head coaches above its current 1:1 for the remainder of the season.

 
Prediction: Wiz win tonight, and then manage to keep ratio of wins to head coaches above its current 1:1 for the remainder of the season.
Good prediction. Hope you got some money down on the game... :popcorn:
Well, it wasn't a tough one. Bobcats are as bad as the Wiz and were on the road at the tail end of a back to back.One great thing (maybe the only great thing) about this season is that Wiz tickets are ridiculously cheap. They were basically free last night on Stubhub. Curious to see how cheap they are next week for the Bulls and Clippers- could be a great chance to see some of the best players in the league from lower level seats on the cheap.
 
'TobiasFunke said:
One great thing (maybe the only great thing) about this season is that Wiz tickets are ridiculously cheap. They were basically free last night on Stubhub. Curious to see how cheap they are next week for the Bulls and Clippers- could be a great chance to see some of the best players in the league from lower level seats on the cheap.
I heard a couple weeks ago about some tickets going for $0.50 on stub hub.
 
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.

Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.

I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point

 
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point
They're bad, and it's Ernie Grunfeld's fault, but he knows enough about basketball to know if there were lots of D-League guys who would be better than the guys on his current roster. For example, today he signed Shaun Livingston and cut Jannero Pargo. Good move.I don't think they're as bad as they appear. 0-7 is dreadful, but when you isolate the game by game results, there's only two that stand out as truly poor efforts- home loss to Milwaukee by 10 and the abomination in Charlotte. They took the presumptive 2/3 seed in the East to overtime in their building a week ago. No D-League team could do that. Agree that only Wall and Seraphin are good enough to get minutes on a contender right now. Hoping Beal will eventually join them.
 
'Time Kibitzer said:
'tom22406 said:
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.

Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.

I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point
I think that's because you don't realize how ####ty the D-League is. The Wizards would finish above .900 in the D-League, even without Wall or Nene.
It was a tad bit of hyperbole inserted by me for sure but make no mistake that the Wiz are a dreadful team(even with Wall and Nene).Looks like the 1st win could come soon though with 5 of the next 6 at home and the Pacers,Jazz and Bobcats among them.If they somehow manage to lose all of those the next win might be until the next calendar year.

Sad thing though is that Grunfeld is so bad at drafting it might not matter :lmao:

 
The D-League is pretty bad. A lot of players who are a cut below the NBA opt for overseas and the steady income there versus staying in the D-League and hoping to get a 10-day contract out of it.

 
0-8 start but this is one of those games tonight they COULD win.Pacers in town :bag:

Last game they came out of fire and then quickly faded against the Jazz.Sad part was the Jazz tried to let them back in late by missing free throws but they couldn't even secure a rebound to do anything with the gift :lmao:

0-9 here we come :bye:

 
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'Time Kibitzer said:
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.

Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.

I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point
I think that's because you don't realize how ####ty the D-League is. The Wizards would finish above .900 in the D-League, even without Wall or Nene.
It was a tad bit of hyperbole inserted by me for sure but make no mistake that the Wiz are a dreadful team(even with Wall and Nene).Looks like the 1st win could come soon though with 5 of the next 6 at home and the Pacers,Jazz and Bobcats among them.If they somehow manage to lose all of those the next win might be until the next calendar year.

Sad thing though is that Grunfeld is so bad at drafting it might not matter :lmao:
Thing is, he's not. His picks the last few years run the gamut from defensible (Vesely, probably the worst pick of his tenure) to great (Blatche, Seraphin). Drafting isn't the problem. It's everything after the drafting- trades, free agent signings, player development ... they're terrible at all of that stuff.
 
'Time Kibitzer said:
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.

Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.

I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point
I think that's because you don't realize how ####ty the D-League is. The Wizards would finish above .900 in the D-League, even without Wall or Nene.
It was a tad bit of hyperbole inserted by me for sure but make no mistake that the Wiz are a dreadful team(even with Wall and Nene).Looks like the 1st win could come soon though with 5 of the next 6 at home and the Pacers,Jazz and Bobcats among them.If they somehow manage to lose all of those the next win might be until the next calendar year.

Sad thing though is that Grunfeld is so bad at drafting it might not matter :lmao:
Thing is, he's not. His picks the last few years run the gamut from defensible (Vesely, probably the worst pick of his tenure) to great (Blatche, Seraphin). Drafting isn't the problem. It's everything after the drafting- trades, free agent signings, player development ... they're terrible at all of that stuff.
Vesely and Oleksiy Pecherov are easily the worst of the bunch from his 1st rounders without any doubt and I also agree that certain players were botched in growing them into viable/reliable players for the Zards.Blatche,McGee and Young all seemed to be decent players that might work but failed terribly one way or another.Grunfeld also has a hand in picking the coach who helps develop these guys.Either way my feeling is Grunfeld needs to go and should already be gone.

Back on topic though,0-9 after another close loss to the Pacers.They had no answer for West or Hibbert and got dominated down low all night.Zards have no finishers and are pretty terrible at defending and this is not mentioning the fact that they can't shoot either or run any form of offense on a consistent basis.

On to the Hawks and 0-10 is looking like a very real possibility :excited:

 
'tom22406 said:
'TobiasFunke said:
'Time Kibitzer said:
I posted this is the NBA thread but it got passed over for some trade talks but this is a serious question.

Could the Wiz finish above .500 in the D-League with the current roster?Of course adding Wall and Nene would be a huge boost but the current roster they are trotting out now without those 2.

I really only see Seraphin as someone besides Wall you could work with for a future roster to eventually become competitive at some point
I think that's because you don't realize how ####ty the D-League is. The Wizards would finish above .900 in the D-League, even without Wall or Nene.
It was a tad bit of hyperbole inserted by me for sure but make no mistake that the Wiz are a dreadful team(even with Wall and Nene).Looks like the 1st win could come soon though with 5 of the next 6 at home and the Pacers,Jazz and Bobcats among them.If they somehow manage to lose all of those the next win might be until the next calendar year.

Sad thing though is that Grunfeld is so bad at drafting it might not matter :lmao:
Thing is, he's not. His picks the last few years run the gamut from defensible (Vesely, probably the worst pick of his tenure) to great (Blatche, Seraphin). Drafting isn't the problem. It's everything after the drafting- trades, free agent signings, player development ... they're terrible at all of that stuff.
Vesely and Oleksiy Pecherov are easily the worst of the bunch from his 1st rounders without any doubt and I also agree that certain players were botched in growing them into viable/reliable players for the Zards.Blatche,McGee and Young all seemed to be decent players that might work but failed terribly one way or another.Grunfeld also has a hand in picking the coach who helps develop these guys.Either way my feeling is Grunfeld needs to go and should already be gone.

Back on topic though,0-9 after another close loss to the Pacers.They had no answer for West or Hibbert and got dominated down low all night.Zards have no finishers and are pretty terrible at defending and this is not mentioning the fact that they can't shoot either or run any form of offense on a consistent basis.

On to the Hawks and 0-10 is looking like a very real possibility :excited:
A lot of good picks in there too. Young and McGee were both picked in the back half of the first round, when you're lucky to get a guy who sticks at all. Same with Seraphin. Blatche was a second rounder.Anyway, look on the bright side ... best 0-9 team ever!

 
Randy Wittman: ‘I might be dumb’Here’s Wittman on his lineups: “I don’t know who to start, who to play, who not to play,” Wittman said. “It’s a confusion of different guys, every game. Whether starter or bench. We have no consistency. To get off to a start like we did tonight, it was no excuse for it.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2012/11/20/randy-wittman-i-might-be-dumb/
Somehow I believe him here.Maybe throw names in a hat and draw for his starters may work the best :lmao: Can't really hurt!
 
In last 5-plus seasons,Wizards have 131 wins, 272 losses, 73 players, 4 coaches, 2 owners & 1 Ernie Grunfeld.Over last 5yrs, incl 2012-13, Wizards are a combined 8-41 in their first 10 games of season

:bag:

 
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Randy Wittman: ‘I might be dumb’Here’s Wittman on his lineups: “I don’t know who to start, who to play, who not to play,” Wittman said. “It’s a confusion of different guys, every game. Whether starter or bench. We have no consistency. To get off to a start like we did tonight, it was no excuse for it.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2012/11/20/randy-wittman-i-might-be-dumb/
Somehow I believe him here.Maybe throw names in a hat and draw for his starters may work the best :lmao: Can't really hurt!
Livingston's a clear upgrade at PG IMO. I'd like to see him start and get major minutes along with Seraphin, Vesely and Singleton. AJ Price is pretty much useless, and Ariza and Okafor have been just as bad so far. I knew they wouldn't be stars when we brought them on board, but I never expected them to suck this badly.
 
Here are the next dozen or so games the Zards are looking at so when does the 1st W come along?

Looks as though the Bobcats give them the best chance to get that W or it could be a long wait to either GS or NO which could put them into all-time worst territory :excited:

21--at Atlanta

24--vs. Charlotte

26--vs. San Antonio

28--vs. Portland

30--at New York

December

4 --vs. Miami

7--at Atlanta

8--vs. Golden State

11--at New Orleans

12--at Houston

14--vs. Los Angeles Lakers

15--at Miami

 
Here are the next dozen or so games the Zards are looking at so when does the 1st W come along?Looks as though the Bobcats give them the best chance to get that W or it could be a long wait to either GS or NO which could put them into all-time worst territory :excited: 21--at Atlanta 24--vs. Charlotte 26--vs. San Antonio 28--vs. Portland 30--at New York December 4 --vs. Miami 7--at Atlanta 8--vs. Golden State 11--at New Orleans 12--at Houston 14--vs. Los Angeles Lakers 15--at Miami
The biggest variable isn't the schedule, it's the health of Nene and Wall. But yeah, I like their chances on Saturday. Bobcats are much improved, but I think they'll play decent ball at home with Livingston taking the bulk of the minutes at the point and hopefully Nene back in the mix.Speaking of- anyone stuck in town for the holiday weekend up for a Wiz-Bobcats cornhole? Lower level seats going for $20 per, but I can't talk any friends or family into it. I guess they're not as masochistic as I am.
 
Here are the next dozen or so games the Zards are looking at so when does the 1st W come along?Looks as though the Bobcats give them the best chance to get that W or it could be a long wait to either GS or NO which could put them into all-time worst territory :excited: 21--at Atlanta 24--vs. Charlotte 26--vs. San Antonio 28--vs. Portland 30--at New York December 4 --vs. Miami 7--at Atlanta 8--vs. Golden State 11--at New Orleans 12--at Houston 14--vs. Los Angeles Lakers 15--at Miami
The biggest variable isn't the schedule, it's the health of Nene and Wall. But yeah, I like their chances on Saturday. Bobcats are much improved, but I think they'll play decent ball at home with Livingston taking the bulk of the minutes at the point and hopefully Nene back in the mix.Speaking of- anyone stuck in town for the holiday weekend up for a Wiz-Bobcats cornhole? Lower level seats going for $20 per, but I can't talk any friends or family into it. I guess they're not as masochistic as I am.
Nene sounds like will give it a go tonight from the sounds of things but who knows when Wall will return becuase no timetable has been set for him.The biggest problem is they have no finisher besides Wall.Down the stretch against the Jazz with a very good chance to win they had nothing in terms of a go to guy or even someone who could create his own shot.Worst shooting team in the league and lowest scoring = it could be a long wait for a W if Wall is out.As far as the cornhole I won't be in town this weekend but it does sound like fun :thumbup: Hopefully they can get that 1st W so D.C. won't have to suffer the humiliation of the Zards chasing history for worst start.
 
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Here are the next dozen or so games the Zards are looking at so when does the 1st W come along?Looks as though the Bobcats give them the best chance to get that W or it could be a long wait to either GS or NO which could put them into all-time worst territory :excited: 21--at Atlanta 24--vs. Charlotte 26--vs. San Antonio 28--vs. Portland 30--at New York December 4 --vs. Miami 7--at Atlanta 8--vs. Golden State 11--at New Orleans 12--at Houston 14--vs. Los Angeles Lakers 15--at Miami
The biggest variable isn't the schedule, it's the health of Nene and Wall. But yeah, I like their chances on Saturday. Bobcats are much improved, but I think they'll play decent ball at home with Livingston taking the bulk of the minutes at the point and hopefully Nene back in the mix.Speaking of- anyone stuck in town for the holiday weekend up for a Wiz-Bobcats cornhole? Lower level seats going for $20 per, but I can't talk any friends or family into it. I guess they're not as masochistic as I am.
Nene sounds like will give it a go tonight from the sounds of things but who knows when Wall will return becuase no timetable has been set for him.The biggest problem is they have no finisher besides Wall.Down the stretch against the Jazz with a very good chance to win they had nothing in terms of a go to guy or even someone who could create his own shot.Worst shooting team in the league and lowest scoring = it could be a long wait for a W if Wall is out.As far as the cornhole I won't be in town this weekend but it does sound like fun :thumbup: Hopefully they can get that 1st W so D.C. won't have to suffer the humiliation of the Zards chasing history for worst start.
Crawford can drive and finish, and Seraphin is a creative scorer in the post who can find a way to get a decent shot up from almost any position. But yeah, they're definitely way below average when it comes to scoring and finishing. The shot selection and play calls down the stretch have been awful. An off-balance Martell Webster heave out of a timeout with the game on the line comes to mind, I think against the Celtics maybe? It's fair to blame Wittman for that.There's some winnable games out there. A few unwinnable games, but if they don't win tonight or Saturday the Golden State-New Orleans games stand out. That would also be a good time for Wall to come back; two winnable games, then he could abuse Lin in Houston, then come home for a sellout vs. the Lakers.
 

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