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Gotcha,I'm just holding out hope they finally develop a big who can help and he has shown some flashes but I suspect in the end you will be right.Nene scares the crap out of me with his health issues,No doubting when he and Okafor are in together they are a much different defensive team.His health and production will be a huge key next year IMO as to if they make that next step up so we agree again that another big who can help is a need to fill.
Didn't they lose 6 in a row to close out the season? Couldn't get to 30 wins, no matter how hard they tried.
I definitely think they will be in the playoff race. But regardless, the team should look dramatically different after next season - ariza and okafor will have expiring deals next year, and they can decline vesely's option. They are stuck with nene, but they should have plenty of flexibility to build around him, wall, beal and at least one more lottery pick in 14/15 unless they give out some dumb contracts this offseason.
They didn't try hard at all. Beal sat with an injury that I imagine he would have played through if they were in the running for a playoff spot. Ariza sat out the last 5. Webster sat out the last 3. Nene sat out the last two and played less than 25 minutes the rest of the way. Okafor sat out one and played less than 20 per in the others. It would be hard to tank more than they did and still have 5 guys on the floor all game.
Yes they did lose the last 6 and I kinda wish they would have tanked a little more to be honest.
Well yeah, of course they're gonna be 5-10 unless they luck into a top 3 in the lottery.
Really, I'd love to see that. I don't think a team with Brandon Jennings on it could possibly be a favorite of the advanced stats crowd.
Kevin Pelton has them at 49 wins and #5 in the East in his SCHOENE projection. He's on ESPN Insider now, but I read an interview with him last week.
9-20 might be approachable...John Wall dealing with a back issue and Nene already hurt.
I'm really trying to stay positive with this team this year but it almost seems like another here we go again moment.
0-3 looming with the Heat next.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Porter had an MRI about a week ago on his hip and nothing much came out of it meaning nothing has really changed.I don't expect to see him in the next month or so and maybe longer.9-20 might be approachable...John Wall dealing with a back issue and Nene already hurt.
I'm really trying to stay positive with this team this year but it almost seems like another here we go again moment.
0-3 looming with the Heat next.
BTW - Is there ANY news on Porter? Randy Wittman comments the other day were scary.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
They wouldn't have won more than 25 games this year starting booker/Harrington/seraphin at the five, and possibly two of those guys while Nene misses his usual allotment of games. I think the gortat deal was absolutely necessary to compete this year. They just need a coach.Porter had an MRI about a week ago on his hip and nothing much came out of it meaning nothing has really changed.I don't expect to see him in the next month or so and maybe longer.I am liking what Gortat is doing so far but I still think that was a desperation move by Grunfeld in hopes of saving the season and his job.I see next years class as very deep and would not have dealt that away for a player whose contract is up at the end of the year unless you are sold he will stick around and be productive.9-20 might be approachable...John Wall dealing with a back issue and Nene already hurt.
I'm really trying to stay positive with this team this year but it almost seems like another here we go again moment.
0-3 looming with the Heat next.
BTW - Is there ANY news on Porter? Randy Wittman comments the other day were scary.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
I mentioned Wittman not being an NBA coach in the NBA thread so I totally agree with you.We also agree that it was a move Grunfeld had to make because of the lack of depth but if Gortat walks after this year we are back where we started and now without a 1st rounder and maybe all for a 8th seed and saving Grunfeld and Wittman's jobs.thecatch said:They wouldn't have won more than 25 games this year starting booker/Harrington/seraphin at the five, and possibly two of those guys while Nene misses his usual allotment of games. I think the gortat deal was absolutely necessary to compete this year. They just need a coach.tom22406 said:Porter had an MRI about a week ago on his hip and nothing much came out of it meaning nothing has really changed.I don't expect to see him in the next month or so and maybe longer.I am liking what Gortat is doing so far but I still think that was a desperation move by Grunfeld in hopes of saving the season and his job.I see next years class as very deep and would not have dealt that away for a player whose contract is up at the end of the year unless you are sold he will stick around and be productive.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:9-20 might be approachable...tom22406 said:John Wall dealing with a back issue and Nene already hurt.
I'm really trying to stay positive with this team this year but it almost seems like another here we go again moment.
0-3 looming with the Heat next.
BTW - Is there ANY news on Porter? Randy Wittman comments the other day were scary.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Does hurt to have blown two top 6 picks in the last 3 years though.
The pick is top 12 protected so if the season is a disaster they will still have it. And even if they don't, I know it is a deep draft but those mid first rounders aren't exactly sure things. I think it was a reasonable deal. I don't think anybody will blow Gortat away with a huge FA offer so the Wiz should be able to retain him if they want.I mentioned Wittman not being an NBA coach in the NBA thread so I totally agree with you.We also agree that it was a move Grunfeld had to make because of the lack of depth but if Gortat walks after this year we are back where we started and now without a 1st rounder and maybe all for a 8th seed and saving Grunfeld and Wittman's jobs.I think both need to go and should have been gone already.thecatch said:They wouldn't have won more than 25 games this year starting booker/Harrington/seraphin at the five, and possibly two of those guys while Nene misses his usual allotment of games. I think the gortat deal was absolutely necessary to compete this year. They just need a coach.Does hurt to have blown two top 6 picks in the last 3 years though.tom22406 said:Porter had an MRI about a week ago on his hip and nothing much came out of it meaning nothing has really changed.I don't expect to see him in the next month or so and maybe longer.I am liking what Gortat is doing so far but I still think that was a desperation move by Grunfeld in hopes of saving the season and his job.I see next years class as very deep and would not have dealt that away for a player whose contract is up at the end of the year unless you are sold he will stick around and be productive.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:9-20 might be approachable...tom22406 said:John Wall dealing with a back issue and Nene already hurt.
I'm really trying to stay positive with this team this year but it almost seems like another here we go again moment.
0-3 looming with the Heat next.
BTW - Is there ANY news on Porter? Randy Wittman comments the other day were scary.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
I would love to see Karl and if not him maybe Don Newman(who was under Pop in SA)as a fresh face.
Newman's a good fallback. They could see how he handles the team the rest of the year, and then try to get someone fresh in the offseason, if he doesn't work out. Cassell could probably make a good HC some day too, but Newman deserves the first shot.
That one hurt as much as any Wizards loss I can remember. Kind of nice that it actually feels like there's something on the line this year at least.
whaddya gonna do?
It's kind of amazing how easy I am to please on this. We get a guy that can rebound a bit, hit a 10 footer on the pick and pop and not totally space out on help defense and it feels like we've upgraded to Kareem. This is what Javale McGee will do to you.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Totally agree with this.The refs are simply just not gonna bail you out by making a call in that spot unless your name is Jordan.It was a well setup play with Gortat so no real complains on this being run from Wittman even though I did think he sat Beal far too long in the 4th when OKC was making that last big run to get back in it but I understood his minutes were already high and he needed a break(just thought it was too long).STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Gortat has looked good playing man D, much better than I expected. He's not the defensive anchor that Okafor was but that's OK given his offensive production. Simmons et al really missed the boat on that trade.
He's super agile and fast for a man of his size.
I think Lowe noted that Nene/Gortat/Wall have an insane +/- when on the court together. They just need a coach and a bench.
How is this guy even on the roster? He's horrendously bad. I can name 10 crappy backups right now that Id love to have over him.
Remember they waived Kendall Marshall after they picked him up in the Gortat deal. I know he was a big disappointment last year in Phoenix, but a pure PG one year removed from going in the lottery isn't even worth a look when we're running Maynor out there 15 minutes a game? It's not like roster spots are at a premium on this team.
,and now he thinks he should shorten his bench as well.