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Respectablity is Reached?--Washington Wizards 2014-2015 Regular Season (1 Viewer)
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tom22406
Footballguy
Entertaining last few games if nothing else.Watching Dudley or Porter play the 5 with Wall,Beal and Neal on the floor with them hasn't really killed them and it actually has made the offense create good shots.Of course this is no recipe for success in the long run but it does show that in crunch time(or desperation) Wittman can try this without hesitation.
Scary looking injury to Wall banging knees in the Mavs game but it certainly didn't look as though it hampered his play last night.Beal is playing a little better but needs to knock down those 3's .Same can be said of Porter,his 3 shooting has been nothing short of brutal.Porter,however,has been chipping in on the boards and while he still isn't quite the defender I was hoping for he isn't terrible either.
Scary looking injury to Wall banging knees in the Mavs game but it certainly didn't look as though it hampered his play last night.Beal is playing a little better but needs to knock down those 3's .Same can be said of Porter,his 3 shooting has been nothing short of brutal.Porter,however,has been chipping in on the boards and while he still isn't quite the defender I was hoping for he isn't terrible either.
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tom22406
Footballguy
So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I guess that depends what you thought you were getting. If you thought you were getting a 60 win team capable of a run at the title, then sure, time to panic, although I'd say you probably could have panicked in August if that's what you expected. If you thought you were getting a 45 win team that might make the second round of the playoffs if things broke their way, I still think there's time, although there are huge problems. They've played poorly to date, but it's a long season and they're running a new offense, which has resulted in piles of turnovers and according to Wall impacted their defensive preparation in training camp. . I'm a little worried about Beal, but we were worried about Wall two weeks ago and now those worries seem silly. Give them time to adjust to the offense and for their defense to improve, which it has plenty of room to do. The talent is there- this was a quality defense last year and if anything it's upgraded talent-wise with Dudley instead of Pierce. Just gotta sort out the communication and effort.So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Like I've been saying, the biggest problem as far as expectations go is the unexpected strength of the East. Two years ago 44 wins was enough to claim the 5 seed and give them a good shot at advancing. This year 42 wins might not make the playoffs.
tom22406
Footballguy
I was expecting a good team that should reach 50 wins and a high East seed.Now I will give you that the East is vastly improved that is loaded with a ton of marginal teams(including the Wiz)so 50 wins is now just a dream unless they go on some magical run or play they haven't shown yet.I expected a better defensive team,this one is garbage.I expected Beal to be a consistent player taking that next step up,so far he has shown flashes of both sides(really good and quite terrible).I expected them to shoot 3's a little better and also for Wittman to improve as a coach,both have been fair to below average.I guess that depends what you thought you were getting. If you thought you were getting a 60 win team capable of a run at the title, then sure, time to panic, although I'd say you probably could have panicked in August if that's what you expected. If you thought you were getting a 45 win team that might make the second round of the playoffs if things broke their way, I still think there's time, although there are huge problems. They've played poorly to date, but it's a long season and they're running a new offense, which has resulted in piles of turnovers and according to Wall impacted their defensive preparation in training camp. . I'm a little worried about Beal, but we were worried about Wall two weeks ago and now those worries seem silly. Give them time to adjust to the offense and for their defense to improve, which it has plenty of room to do. The talent is there- this was a quality defense last year and if anything it's upgraded talent-wise with Dudley instead of Pierce. Just gotta sort out the communication and effort.So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Like I've been saying, the biggest problem as far as expectations go is the unexpected strength of the East. Two years ago 44 wins was enough to claim the 5 seed and give them a good shot at advancing. This year 42 wins might not make the playoffs.
So now my expectations are a seed in the 5-8 range and hope to avoid the Cavs first round.Win total around 42-45.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
50 wins would have been a great season. I think the preseason over/under was around 45.I was expecting a good team that should reach 50 wins and a high East seed.Now I will give you that the East is vastly improved that is loaded with a ton of marginal teams(including the Wiz)so 50 wins is now just a dream unless they go on some magical run or play they haven't shown yet.I expected a better defensive team,this one is garbage.I expected Beal to be a consistent player taking that next step up,so far he has shown flashes of both sides(really good and quite terrible).I expected them to shoot 3's a little better and also for Wittman to improve as a coach,both have been fair to below average.I guess that depends what you thought you were getting. If you thought you were getting a 60 win team capable of a run at the title, then sure, time to panic, although I'd say you probably could have panicked in August if that's what you expected. If you thought you were getting a 45 win team that might make the second round of the playoffs if things broke their way, I still think there's time, although there are huge problems. They've played poorly to date, but it's a long season and they're running a new offense, which has resulted in piles of turnovers and according to Wall impacted their defensive preparation in training camp. . I'm a little worried about Beal, but we were worried about Wall two weeks ago and now those worries seem silly. Give them time to adjust to the offense and for their defense to improve, which it has plenty of room to do. The talent is there- this was a quality defense last year and if anything it's upgraded talent-wise with Dudley instead of Pierce. Just gotta sort out the communication and effort.So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Like I've been saying, the biggest problem as far as expectations go is the unexpected strength of the East. Two years ago 44 wins was enough to claim the 5 seed and give them a good shot at advancing. This year 42 wins might not make the playoffs.
So now my expectations are a seed in the 5-8 range and hope to avoid the Cavs first round.Win total around 42-45.
This was always a "holding pattern" season. They can't take on salaries beyond this season because of the Durant situation, which hamstrings any efforts to really improve the roster. That doesn't excuse the defensive effort, which has been awful, but otherwise they are what they are- an average NBA team that's gonna go through some rough patches, including the injury-aided one. I've gotten two seasons in a row that have ended better than I expected, so I'm trying not to worry about how they look in December for now, as frustrating as it is to watch the opponents raining threes while we pile up turnovers every night.
tom22406
Footballguy
So basically stay patient and expect the worse.50 wins would have been a great season. I think the preseason over/under was around 45.I was expecting a good team that should reach 50 wins and a high East seed.Now I will give you that the East is vastly improved that is loaded with a ton of marginal teams(including the Wiz)so 50 wins is now just a dream unless they go on some magical run or play they haven't shown yet.I expected a better defensive team,this one is garbage.I expected Beal to be a consistent player taking that next step up,so far he has shown flashes of both sides(really good and quite terrible).I expected them to shoot 3's a little better and also for Wittman to improve as a coach,both have been fair to below average.I guess that depends what you thought you were getting. If you thought you were getting a 60 win team capable of a run at the title, then sure, time to panic, although I'd say you probably could have panicked in August if that's what you expected. If you thought you were getting a 45 win team that might make the second round of the playoffs if things broke their way, I still think there's time, although there are huge problems. They've played poorly to date, but it's a long season and they're running a new offense, which has resulted in piles of turnovers and according to Wall impacted their defensive preparation in training camp. . I'm a little worried about Beal, but we were worried about Wall two weeks ago and now those worries seem silly. Give them time to adjust to the offense and for their defense to improve, which it has plenty of room to do. The talent is there- this was a quality defense last year and if anything it's upgraded talent-wise with Dudley instead of Pierce. Just gotta sort out the communication and effort.So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Like I've been saying, the biggest problem as far as expectations go is the unexpected strength of the East. Two years ago 44 wins was enough to claim the 5 seed and give them a good shot at advancing. This year 42 wins might not make the playoffs.
So now my expectations are a seed in the 5-8 range and hope to avoid the Cavs first round.Win total around 42-45.
This was always a "holding pattern" season. They can't take on salaries beyond this season because of the Durant situation, which hamstrings any efforts to really improve the roster. That doesn't excuse the defensive effort, which has been awful, but otherwise they are what they are- an average NBA team that's gonna go through some rough patches, including the injury-aided one. I've gotten two seasons in a row that have ended better than I expected, so I'm trying not to worry about how they look in December for now, as frustrating as it is to watch the opponents raining threes while we pile up turnovers every night.
Agree with all you said here,just a frustrated fan who (with his homer glasses on)thought they would be better.Defense for me is the most troubling.Have to be at the bottom or close to it on opponents shooting % from all areas on the floor as well as turnovers.
I still think Durant coming home is a pipe dream but one worth shooting for.Also glad they are waiting to give Beal a contract,way too soon to tell if he will be the guy or not.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yup, pretty much agree with all of this.So basically stay patient and expect the worse.50 wins would have been a great season. I think the preseason over/under was around 45.I was expecting a good team that should reach 50 wins and a high East seed.Now I will give you that the East is vastly improved that is loaded with a ton of marginal teams(including the Wiz)so 50 wins is now just a dream unless they go on some magical run or play they haven't shown yet.I expected a better defensive team,this one is garbage.I expected Beal to be a consistent player taking that next step up,so far he has shown flashes of both sides(really good and quite terrible).I expected them to shoot 3's a little better and also for Wittman to improve as a coach,both have been fair to below average.I guess that depends what you thought you were getting. If you thought you were getting a 60 win team capable of a run at the title, then sure, time to panic, although I'd say you probably could have panicked in August if that's what you expected. If you thought you were getting a 45 win team that might make the second round of the playoffs if things broke their way, I still think there's time, although there are huge problems. They've played poorly to date, but it's a long season and they're running a new offense, which has resulted in piles of turnovers and according to Wall impacted their defensive preparation in training camp. . I'm a little worried about Beal, but we were worried about Wall two weeks ago and now those worries seem silly. Give them time to adjust to the offense and for their defense to improve, which it has plenty of room to do. The talent is there- this was a quality defense last year and if anything it's upgraded talent-wise with Dudley instead of Pierce. Just gotta sort out the communication and effort.So much for Beal turning his game around.5-15 shooting,7 to's and getting abused on the defensive end.
Also curious as to why Wittman had Dudley sit late when he was a big spark for the team earlier.That hot seat is warming for Randy,they better turn this around quick with a 4 game road trip looming they could be looking at a 9-15 record or 10-14 at best given they play N.O.,Dallas,Memphis and S.A.
Time to panic yet Tobias?
Like I've been saying, the biggest problem as far as expectations go is the unexpected strength of the East. Two years ago 44 wins was enough to claim the 5 seed and give them a good shot at advancing. This year 42 wins might not make the playoffs.
So now my expectations are a seed in the 5-8 range and hope to avoid the Cavs first round.Win total around 42-45.
This was always a "holding pattern" season. They can't take on salaries beyond this season because of the Durant situation, which hamstrings any efforts to really improve the roster. That doesn't excuse the defensive effort, which has been awful, but otherwise they are what they are- an average NBA team that's gonna go through some rough patches, including the injury-aided one. I've gotten two seasons in a row that have ended better than I expected, so I'm trying not to worry about how they look in December for now, as frustrating as it is to watch the opponents raining threes while we pile up turnovers every night.
Agree with all you said here,just a frustrated fan who (with his homer glasses on)thought they would be better.Defense for me is the most troubling.Have to be at the bottom or close to it on opponents shooting % from all areas on the floor as well as turnovers.
I still think Durant coming home is a pipe dream but one worth shooting for.Also glad they are waiting to give Beal a contract,way too soon to tell if he will be the guy or not.
Defense is tied for 21st. They're dead last in eFG% but get a boost from being third in TOV%. That's what the eye test would probably tell you too- seems like they collapse on penetration and double-team way too quickly, which causes turnovers but also results in lots of wide open looks.
Agree on Durant but there's plenty of backup options. I think Al Horford would be a good fit (and his brother probably has good things to say about the Verizon Center). Maybe throw some cash and an increased role at Harrison Barnes or something. Or maybe spend another year in purgatory and wait until the bigger free agency class in 2017. Doesn't have to be all or nothing on Durant, although as you said it's worth keeping the space just for the 10% chance he comes.
tom22406
Footballguy
Sitting now @ 10-13 with these teams up next
@Spurs
vs Hornets
vs Kings
vs Grizz
@Nets
vs Clips
@Raps
vs Magic
vs Heat
vs Cavs
With these 10 games I see maybe 4 wins tops,especially if Beal misses them all which has a pretty good chance of happening.
That would put them @ 14-19 and couple that with 10 teams in the East already over .500 and 11 teams above them does this spell the end for Wittman?
If they only win 1 or 2 of those games I almost have to think this will force Grunfeld to panic given the high(er)expectations many had for the team and the really poor performance they have shown up to date.
Also was reading that if the Wizards continue the pace they are on regarding opponents 3 point shooting it will set a record of futility in the NBA's history.I guess the next bad thing to happen is Wall getting hurt.I really,really don't hope this happens but given this teams luck I almost expect it.
Poor drafting has also set them back and I thought this post on BF was spot on-http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/12/15/10220140/years-of-poor-drafting-are-finally-catching-up
@Spurs
vs Hornets
vs Kings
vs Grizz
@Nets
vs Clips
@Raps
vs Magic
vs Heat
vs Cavs
With these 10 games I see maybe 4 wins tops,especially if Beal misses them all which has a pretty good chance of happening.
That would put them @ 14-19 and couple that with 10 teams in the East already over .500 and 11 teams above them does this spell the end for Wittman?
If they only win 1 or 2 of those games I almost have to think this will force Grunfeld to panic given the high(er)expectations many had for the team and the really poor performance they have shown up to date.
Also was reading that if the Wizards continue the pace they are on regarding opponents 3 point shooting it will set a record of futility in the NBA's history.I guess the next bad thing to happen is Wall getting hurt.I really,really don't hope this happens but given this teams luck I almost expect it.
Poor drafting has also set them back and I thought this post on BF was spot on-http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/12/15/10220140/years-of-poor-drafting-are-finally-catching-up
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm pretty down on the Wiz at the moment, but only seeing "four wins tops" in a ten game slate with seven home games is a pretty dour assessment even from my perspective. My guess would be 5-5, maybe better if Beal comes back earlier in that slate. They'll likely be the favorites at home vs Kings, Grizz, Magic and Heat and @ Nets.
I would also be absolutely stunned if opponents keep hitting threes at a 40% clip. The defense has been awful, but that's still not sustainable. I think they'll benefit from some regression to the mean at some point, hopefully in addition to at least mediocre perimeter defense. They have talented individual perimeter defenders, they've just been awful on switches and have been too quick to help one pass away, and I read that they spent a couple hours yesterday working on team defense.
tom22406
Footballguy
Fair enough to say 5 wins is doable.
I see possible wins as the Hornets,Kings,Nets and Magic the most likely and maybe a win vs the Heat or Grizz is likely.
Wittman has been pretty vocal of late on the team and it's troubles defensively(and being soft) so let's hope they get that part turned around because if not this will be a very long season.
tom22406
Footballguy
5 wins it was during that 10 game stretch with them beating the Grizz as the 5th win that was in question for me.
Now sitting at 16-19 and 12th in the East this is the schedule till the start of Feb. for them
@Bulls
vs Bucks
@Pacers
vs Celtics
vs Blazers
vs Heat
vs Jazz
vs Celtics
@Raptors
vs Nuggets
@Rockets
@Thunder
7 home and 5 away and really need to go at least 7-5 here if not 8-4 to get back into the race sitting 2.5 games back from 8th.
Beal is close to returning but if he misses a good portion of these games they really have no shot at getting 8 wins and it would look closer to 6 if that's the case or maybe worse.
Really hoping they turn this season around and a good start would be to stay healthy.
Kinda feel bad for Wall given what he has around him and how the team has been hit with injuries from the start.Gortat has played good at times but the rest of them(with a few gems from Porter the exception)just aren't good enough to carry them when Wall or Gortat struggle.
I guess my expectations just keep getting lowered now with 41 wins as the ceiling and sneaking in as a 7 or 8 seed at best.Maybe they can catch lightning in a bottle and go on a good run during this stretch and prove me wrong.
Now sitting at 16-19 and 12th in the East this is the schedule till the start of Feb. for them
@Bulls
vs Bucks
@Pacers
vs Celtics
vs Blazers
vs Heat
vs Jazz
vs Celtics
@Raptors
vs Nuggets
@Rockets
@Thunder
7 home and 5 away and really need to go at least 7-5 here if not 8-4 to get back into the race sitting 2.5 games back from 8th.
Beal is close to returning but if he misses a good portion of these games they really have no shot at getting 8 wins and it would look closer to 6 if that's the case or maybe worse.
Really hoping they turn this season around and a good start would be to stay healthy.
Kinda feel bad for Wall given what he has around him and how the team has been hit with injuries from the start.Gortat has played good at times but the rest of them(with a few gems from Porter the exception)just aren't good enough to carry them when Wall or Gortat struggle.
I guess my expectations just keep getting lowered now with 41 wins as the ceiling and sneaking in as a 7 or 8 seed at best.Maybe they can catch lightning in a bottle and go on a good run during this stretch and prove me wrong.
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tom22406
Footballguy
Pretty great road win in Chicago last night without Gortat.
Wall getting an MRI today though so let's hope everything is good with him and he misses no time.
Pretty weird season in that they beat the two best teams in the East on the road,can't lose to Orlando no matter what they do(12 straight now I believe)yet still sit below .500 and are without Beal and Gortat now.
Beal sounds like he could be ready pretty soon and Gortat just seems like a game or two type of thing so maybe things are starting to turn now assuming Wall checks out fine.
Wall getting an MRI today though so let's hope everything is good with him and he misses no time.
Pretty weird season in that they beat the two best teams in the East on the road,can't lose to Orlando no matter what they do(12 straight now I believe)yet still sit below .500 and are without Beal and Gortat now.
Beal sounds like he could be ready pretty soon and Gortat just seems like a game or two type of thing so maybe things are starting to turn now assuming Wall checks out fine.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Huge win, biggest of the season. They have 6 of the next 7 at home, none against elite teams. Magic, Celtics and Hornets all faltering. They need to be above .500 at the end of that stretch on Jan 25. If they're not it's time to pack it in on the season, maybe move Dudley, and plan for the future.
tom22406
Footballguy
If they do decide to pack it in what is your feeling on what they do with Beal?
Been hearing a ton of chatter to try and deal him since a lot of people feel he is just a huge injury risk and someone they can't count on so try and cash him in while his value is still pretty high instead of paying him a big contract.
I hate to even use the word soft for Beal but his history has shown he is very injury prone for whatever reason so maybe it's not that far off to say it.
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I seriously doubt they'd deal him unless someone made a blockbuster offer. He's part of their sales pitch to free agents over the next two summers. I'm not 100% sold on him but I think it would be a mistake to deal him when his value is so low.
tom22406
Footballguy
That's exactly where I'm at right now.Dealing him now would be a mistake for those exact reasons.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
This team has to be frustrating as hell to watch. They look like complete garbage against Toronto @ home then come out smack the Bulls in Chicago. Makes sense 
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
That's not even the worst of it. At one point they won in Cleveland and then lost at home to the Lakers.This team has to be frustrating as hell to watch. They look like complete garbage against Toronto @ home then come out smack the Bulls in Chicago. Makes sense
The problem IMO is that they're impossibly thin on the offensive end without Beal as a second option. If Wall is playing like himself they're fine and competent and can play with anyone. But if he's off even a little bit they struggle mightily, and if he's off on the same night that hot and cold bench guys Sessions and Neal are off (or out injured) they can have some epic offensive collapses. I assume you were watching last Friday when they dropped that horrifying 14 point turd in the 3rd quarter, including 2 points over the final 5 minutes. That was like the 5th time something like that has happened this season. I was at the game; the life just gets sucked out of the building when that happens,which may explain their backwards home/road splits.
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tom22406
Footballguy
And the rollercoaster of a season just keeps going along.Maybe they can just decline having home games from now on and it may work out better for them?
Defending outside shots is killing this team.Fought so hard to get to .500 and then dropped two in a row at home but I guess this is just who they are now.
Defending outside shots is killing this team.Fought so hard to get to .500 and then dropped two in a row at home but I guess this is just who they are now.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Huge and disappointing loss yesterday. Expected the loss to Boston on Saturday night on a back to back without Beal and Porter (they were actually slight underdogs) but they needed to win yesterday to avoid backtracking after the recent win streak. Also disappointing because it was the only home day game of the season, took my small kids and so did a lot of other people. Not gonna win over the next generation of fans by letting Meyers ####ing Leonard and the Portland Trail Blazers take a dump on you at home.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I assume that you became a fan due to the dominating presence of the Bullets when you were a kid.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I did wear my sweet "It Ain't Over 'Till the Fat Lady Sings" tee shirt to kindergarten a bunch.
Yesterday obviously wasn't a big deal in the bigger picture, but they've won just four home playoff games since the Arenas era, even while winning opening round series and getting to game 6 of the EC semis the last two seasons. And this season they've been worse at home than on the road. Hasn't been a lot to cheer about at the old phone booth, even with their newfound semi-respectability.
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
How dare you disrespect Bobby Dandridge, Wes Unseld, and Elvin Hayes.
My love for the Bullets peaked watching Bernard King fill it up for a bad team while playing on one leg. The quintessential "old guy at the YMCA" scorer.
tom22406
Footballguy
Are they still on pace to beat the 3 point percentage record by opponents still?
It really seems like teams just get hot against them from deep and they are powerless to stop them given the roster and scheme.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Nah, they're not even worst in the league any more. Denver and Phoenix are worse.
Of course it's somewhat telling that their peers are two teams that have already thrown in the towel on the season. Phoenix in particular has clearly given up on their coach. Maybe if things don't improve we can hire Hornacek in the offseason.
tom22406
Footballguy
Just looked at the stats this morning and with the Heat almost shooting 50% they now are at the top.
Glad they got the win though.Looks like .500 is about what this team is and that should have them sneak into a playoff spot given some recent slides by other teams but that is assuming they continue playing at least respectable defense from time to time.
tom22406
Footballguy
No idea how you come out as flat as they did last night but they somehow managed to do just that.
Drew Gooden with this gem-https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/F23AC6D5A91303594003287146496_56a6d986f1e00d9fe20a3a0.mp4?versionId=tiaUW.qt0yU6fStsfzMh5MjEJ4kBqE..
BF commented it looked like a video game glitch.
Drew Gooden with this gem-https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/F23AC6D5A91303594003287146496_56a6d986f1e00d9fe20a3a0.mp4?versionId=tiaUW.qt0yU6fStsfzMh5MjEJ4kBqE..
BF commented it looked like a video game glitch.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Witt refusing to play rookies who look like they are ready for some extra minutes. I feel like I've seen this movie before.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
In every Wizards season there is a day when my feeling about upcoming games shifts from anticipation to dread. It's a mid-winter tradition. Yesterday was that day for this season.
MattFancy
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yeah, last season it didn't happen until after the all star break. It was a weird feeling. This season feels more normal. It's not the annual "We're 9-20!" celebrations of the past made famous by Kornheiser (his best shtick ever IMO), but it's close enough.
tom22406
Footballguy
So I assume that the pace and space experiment is over for the time being since they have both Nene and Gortat starting now but what has it really done for them in terms of defending or having a better offense?
Basically they need a scorer in the worst way and better spot up shooters but what do I know.As far as Wittman goes, if they fail to make the playoffs,which seems like a very real possibility,he has to be fired right?I would send Ernie right out behind him and clean house since it has been the drafting of Ernie that is also part of this problem.
Basically they need a scorer in the worst way and better spot up shooters but what do I know.As far as Wittman goes, if they fail to make the playoffs,which seems like a very real possibility,he has to be fired right?I would send Ernie right out behind him and clean house since it has been the drafting of Ernie that is also part of this problem.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Wittman was the wrong man for the job, forced to try to teach something he never really learned himself. I think they would have been better off giving him one more year of plodding their way to 44 wins and then bringing in an assistant from a team that runs the offense well.
They still could bounce back to the 7 or 8 seed if Beal gets healthy, but I'm thinking even that won't be enough. I expect them to clean house at the end of the season unless they win a playoff series again, which they definitely won't do as the 7 or 8 seed.
tom22406
Footballguy
Agreed about Wittman.
As far as making the playoffs with even as bad as they've been they still are only 4.5 back of a 4 seed in the East but nothing they have shown me leads me to believe they can get it together to make a run.Maybe if Beal comes back healthy and can play 30 minutes a night it could be done but it seems like they are set giving him a minutes restriction no matter what.
The pace and space sounded good but the product has shown they are terrible defending.Worst at 3 point defending,near the bottom in FG percentage and are a - team in PD.Trouble now though is while Temple is a great hustle guy he really has no business starting at the 2 and I don't see Porter as anything special.Sure he will be a good player to keep around but he will just be a role player and not much more.
Frustrating season
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Their next three are @HOU, @OKC and vs GSW. They should have held that meeting last week, because they're sure as hell not gonna be within three games of a playoff spot a week from now.
tom22406
Footballguy
I, for one, am shocked by the revelation that Wittman, Humphries, Gooden, and Sessions all suck, and that Temple is at best a role player. I think I posted in this thread or the NBA thread that the Wiz needed leaps from Otto and Beal and it's been basically the worst case scenario on that front this year.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
He's totally right about Wall- they've overworked him. He looks exhausted recently after carrying the team in December, lots of lazy passes and flat jumpers. He's 12rth in the NBA in minutes played, which doesn't sound too bad until you realize that the Wiz haven't played any overtime games yet this year and that they've been without the other primary playmaker for most of the season. He's on the court and controlling the action constantly.
Not sure I agree with the conclusion though. It's too late to really move up in the lottery and they're clearing so much cap space that they should probably be more concerned with impressing free agents than with moving from 14th to 11th in the draft or something.
I also liked this BF post about getting rid of Grunfeld. I think Ted will do it this year, barring another miracle playoff run. I bet his experience with the Caps after getting rid of a long-time GM will help him make the right call.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
They should also get rid of whatever team doctor cleared the signing of Alan Anderson too.
tom22406
Footballguy
Just to wrap a bow around this post they finished up going 4-7 with one game cancelled because of Snowzilla.
Also of note is they held only 1 team under 100 pts during this stretch and that was because Dewayne Wade sat out the game and now the defense shows no signs of improving so the outlook is mighty grim for any playoff chance.
Record is now 21-26,they sit at next to last in opponents FG%,dead last in opponents 3pt %(a full percentage point ahead of the Suns now)and now are giving up more PPG than the Sixers @ 105.6.The good news is they still are only 3.5 games back for the 8th slot with some of the other Eastern teams sliding back just like they are.
With 3 games coming up against the Sixers and being on the road which seems to make them play better somehow they still have a shot at this but it's getting longer as every wasted John Wall effort goes by with a loss.
vs Sixers
@Hornets
@Knicks
@Bucks
vs Pistons
@Heat
vs Pelicans
@Bulls
@Sixers
vs Cavs
vs Sixers
That takes them into March.Can they beat the Sixers 3 times?I'm not holding my breath.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The good news is that Beal has looked great since coming back from injury. Also Newman's eye patch is pretty sweet. The bad news is pretty much everything else.
I have no interest in the 8 seed and getting swept by the hated Cavs in the first round, I'd rather have the .5% chance at Ben Simmons. 7 seed or bust.
I have no interest in the 8 seed and getting swept by the hated Cavs in the first round, I'd rather have the .5% chance at Ben Simmons. 7 seed or bust.
tom22406
Footballguy
Only 4 back of the 7th seed
Watching Steph Curry and how the Warriors play had me sitting back and thinking exactly how far this team really has to go and it was quite depressing.The announcers on the national broadcast saying give the Wizards credit for at least sticking around made me sick.How about pointing out exactly how bad they are at defending anything instead of saying well they really gave it a good shot?No they really didn't.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I thought they deserved some credit for last night.Only 4 back of the 7th seed
Watching Steph Curry and how the Warriors play had me sitting back and thinking exactly how far this team really has to go and it was quite depressing.The announcers on the national broadcast saying give the Wizards credit for at least sticking around made me sick.How about pointing out exactly how bad they are at defending anything instead of saying well they really gave it a good shot?No they really didn't.
They weren't simply playing a contender or elite team, they were playing quite possibly the greatest team in the history of basketball. And Curry shot 11 of 16 from three, very few of them clean wide open looks. You can't blame the Wiz for that- Curry is obviously amazing but on a normal night be makes maybe 7 or 8 of those looks, not 11. Not to mention Shaun Livingston making a series of midrange jumpers just when the Wiz looked poised to complete a second comeback early in the 4th.You can take them to task for their effort in probably 20+ of their 26 losses this year, but last night they put up a decent fight. They made some mistakes- eg I thought they should have left Wall in when he picked up a 4th foul at the end of their first comeback, the guy was cooking and he only averages 2.1 fouls a game, gotta roll the dice there. But overall it was a solid effort.
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