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Revis blasts Moss, says he 'put his foot on the brake in Wk2 (1 Viewer)
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Masked Vigilante
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Revis needs to shut up.
Koya
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Seriously, as a NY Giants fan, Ive always had a fondness for the Jets. Never rooted against them. Never hated their fan base. It was always nice to see them win, though never hurt when they lost - well, no true as I would share some of the pain of my friends who have been burned time and time again.
No longer. This team needs to ####. Im tired of Ryan - he has not won ANYTHING (nor did his dad) as a head coach. Yet they walk around like they are back to back champs. Man, I hope this team gets its comeuppance.
No longer. This team needs to ####. Im tired of Ryan - he has not won ANYTHING (nor did his dad) as a head coach. Yet they walk around like they are back to back champs. Man, I hope this team gets its comeuppance.
scrumptrulescent
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corpcow
Footballguy
Agreed
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Koya
Footballguy
Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.
(or for you Jets fans :beer bong followed by pizza bong
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
That was "blasting" Moss? Really?
It's like if a player says anything other than "Yeah, the opposing team was great. They played great, they have a lot of heart, they're pretty much the best people in the entire world" it gets blown all out of proportion as if they're challenging them to a fight by the flagpole.
It's like if a player says anything other than "Yeah, the opposing team was great. They played great, they have a lot of heart, they're pretty much the best people in the entire world" it gets blown all out of proportion as if they're challenging them to a fight by the flagpole.
footballnerd
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Sounds like someone taking shots after they got beat
btw Revis = Stalker
btw Revis = Stalker
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sounds like bulletin board fodder. add to it cromartie's comments:
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Pick another avatar will ya? BTW- time for another NYCFBG cornhole. I just visited my son at his new digs in the towers on W 37th and grabbed a burger at the Five Napkin Burger joint. Got the NYC itch back big time.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.(or for you Jets fans :beer bong followed by pizza bong
Koya
Footballguy
I'm totally down.I dont even know what my avatar is - Ive had them turned off for ages.Pick another avatar will ya? BTW- time for another NYCFBG cornhole. I just visited my son at his new digs in the towers on W 37th and grabbed a burger at the Five Napkin Burger joint. Got the NYC itch back big time.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.(or for you Jets fans :beer bong followed by pizza bong
footballnerd
Footballguy
So is there a Jets district and a Giants district? and if you cross over to the wrong side of town, things break loose like a Michael Jackson Beat It video?
corpcow
Footballguy
We just moved to Pitt, but depending on when we do it I could try to make a trip back. Would love to get together for some games sometime.BTW- time for another NYCFBG cornhole. I just visited my son at his new digs in the towers on W 37th and grabbed a burger at the Five Napkin Burger joint. Got the NYC itch back big time.
Rovers
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Actually, it sounds like you aren't used to losing and having as much team turmoil and breakdowns that the Giants are going through now and at the end of last year. Throwing helmets, excessive unsportsmanlike penalties, Rolle throwing the CS under the bus, the entire defense declaring a mutiny under last year's DC... I think that might be what's eating you. Take it out on YOUR team, not the Jets. Misdirected frustration. Thing is, Ryan could care less if people like him or hate him. Players love the guy, from Jason Taylor to every defender on the Ravens (less Lewis because Ryan left him behind). Tomlinson said he'd run through a wall for him too. Ryan so far has done pretty well as a HC. What has he done wrong? Saying he's going to win a super bowl and instilling a winning attitude within a franchise with a history of losing? Ryan doesn't CARE what you think. I kind of like the fact that Giant fans are getting so worked up.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.(or for you Jets fans :beer bong followed by pizza bong
As for Revis... I guess it's OK for everyone BUT a player to say an opposing player takes plays off. That is Moss' history, nuthin new there. When Moss is happy, he puts out. When he isn't, he's a cancer. Belichick was not about to put up with that. Revis has heaped praise on other WR's, like Ocho. Shame on Revis for being honest. At least Revis critisizes opponents, not like Giants players who air it all out at their own publically.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
He wasnt stepping on the brakes when he blew by him for that TD
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Actually, it sounds like you aren't used to losing and having as much team turmoil and breakdowns that the Giants are going through now and at the end of last year. Throwing helmets, excessive unsportsmanlike penalties, Rolle throwing the CS under the bus, the entire defense declaring a mutiny under last year's DC... I think that might be what's eating you. Take it out on YOUR team, not the Jets. Misdirected frustration. Thing is, Ryan could care less if people like him or hate him. Players love the guy, from Jason Taylor to every defender on the Ravens (less Lewis because Ryan left him behind). Tomlinson said he'd run through a wall for him too. Ryan so far has done pretty well as a HC. What has he done wrong? Saying he's going to win a super bowl and instilling a winning attitude within a franchise with a history of losing? Ryan doesn't CARE what you think. I kind of like the fact that Giant fans are getting so worked up.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.(or for you Jets fans :beer bong followed by pizza bong
Sammy Traveller
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It's not like Chicago where the Cubs rule the north side of town and the White Sox reign over the south side. Jets and Giants fans rub elbows with each other. But generally speaking, Queens, Brooklyn and Long Island are usually Jets country, while Manhattan and the Northern NJ area lean Giants. Westchester is sort of split down the middle.Is that right, NYC peeps?
NinerFan49
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+1Randy Moss takes plays/series/games off. In other news, the sky is blue and the Pope is Catholic.
Bigboy10182000
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I love the shut up and play comments...so what, he's playing football and said something everyone know about Randy, who cares? I LOVE the Jets attitude! How can you not???
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I'm not a fan of either team, and I live in NYC.It's not a geographical thing at all. It's more of a 60/40 split Giants/Jets from what I can tell, but there's no animosity between each other.People in Jersey typically root for Giants and Yankees, for obvious reasons. But they hardly count anyways
nysportsfan
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Must be hard to relinquish top billing this BIG city, huh? Nah, I'm kidding. Revis needs to relax, get back to playing, and do his job.ETA: The dignity part makes me laugh, especially re: Lawrence Taylor.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.
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Reaper
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As a Jets fan, I've felt the same about the Giants, as a matter of fact, when my Giant fans were on the edge of jumping of bridges and wanting to send Eli up the river before the Super Bowl run, (I believe it was a Viking game that year where Giant fans pretty much threw in the towel).... I was talking them off the ledge saying i would take Eli in a heart beat... I pretty much scripted out that entire Super Bowl run AND thoroughly enjoyed it.....That said, i find it funny to hear Giant fans talk as if they are so confident and not as flaky as a Jets fan... Guys like Boomer on WFAN act as if Giant fans are unwavering Rocks.... Even this post talks as if it's big brother to little brother as if any Jets fan needs a lecture from a Giant fan any more than a Mets fan wants to hear a Yankees fan tell them how their organization should be run.Bahhhhh....Yeah, Stupid for Revis to provoke Moss right now, But, overall, Rex's attitiude is what the Jets needed and frankly a lot of it is overblown because of New York.Wouldn't trade Rex for any coach in the league right now and I'm damn sure the great majority of fans would be 100% IN for Rex if he was their coach why? Because the guy ooozes FOOTBALL and knows what he talking about.
Wrigley
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What, you can't do blow and strippers with dignity?Must be hard to relinquish top billing this BIG city, huh? Nah, I'm kidding. Revis needs to relax, get back to playing, and do his job.ETA: The dignity part makes me laugh, especially re: Lawrence Taylor.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.
Reaper
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yeah.I think Football fans in general have more of an appreciation of the overall game and in NY it's no where near the same as Yankees / Mets or Rangers / Islanders......For the most part fans of both teams can enjoy watching the other....Until you get someone like Koya acting all high and mighty... " Maybe me an my buds are more used to winning" crap
As if the guy isn't a lowly Muts fan. Funny, same type of person will cry over Yankee fans all day and n ight butm give them an opening and it's the 1st guy to act like the stereotypical New York Fan....
Squintz82
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Grew up in Jersey, 10 minutes away from the Meadowlands (Giants Stadium), and been a Giants fan for life. Now, I live and work on Long Island, and it's definitely Jets country out here. From my experience living on LI and NJ, Giants fans are definitely more understated "football" fans. Jets fans seemed to have come out of the woodwork after last year's playoff run.
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Rovers
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I think it's more like 55-45 Jets on LI and Queens, 50-50 in Brooklyn, Giants 65-35 in Manhattan and Jersey. Overall, roughly 55-45 Giants. I'd say that there are some band wagoners in there, and it used to be more 60-40 Giants. In general, there hasn't been a real big fan rivalry, nothing like Yankees-Mets or Rangers-Islanders hatreds. I do sense a mood change with the Giants fans now though. They have always gotten top billing and the back page. The Jets are the bigger story now, and jealousy is starting to rear it's head. You almost never hear a Jets fan bad mouthing the Giants on local sports radio, but Giants fans bashing the Jets and their fans is becoming very common. The Giants fans will have to adapt to the new order of things. NYC is becoming a Jets owned town. Even this morning it's all MIN-Jets, Favre, Moss, Revis, LT. Almost no Giants talk at all. So far, the Giants and their fans have not lost with dignity. Neither have the Giants players. It's fun to watch.I'm not a fan of either team, and I live in NYC.It's not a geographical thing at all. It's more of a 60/40 split Giants/Jets from what I can tell, but there's no animosity between each other.People in Jersey typically root for Giants and Yankees, for obvious reasons. But they hardly count anyways
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
I sat through that Super Bowl game with my Giants fan buddy. He was hiding behind the couch and had his Blue Crew losing at every turn, while I felt real good about his team the whole game. That's not to say that I didn't feel the drama of "The Catch", it's just that I seemed to have more confidence in Eli than he did. 
edited to add the couch. 
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Don't really have an opinion about Ryan, but the bolded part is absolutely false. The Ravens HATE Ryan, and it isn't just Lewis. Not sure if it's just because he left or not, but the Ravens can't stand him.Thing is, Ryan could care less if people like him or hate him. Players love the guy, from Jason Taylor to every defender on the Ravens (less Lewis because Ryan left him behind). Tomlinson said he'd run through a wall for him too. Ryan so far has done pretty well as a HC. What has he done wrong? Saying he's going to win a super bowl and instilling a winning attitude within a franchise with a history of losing? Ryan doesn't CARE what you think. I kind of like the fact that Giant fans are getting so worked up.
As for Revis... I guess it's OK for everyone BUT a player to say an opposing player takes plays off. That is Moss' history, nuthin new there. When Moss is happy, he puts out. When he isn't, he's a cancer. Belichick was not about to put up with that. Revis has heaped praise on other WR's, like Ocho. Shame on Revis for being honest. At least Revis critisizes opponents, not like Giants players who air it all out at their own publically.
Reaper
Footballguy
That ENTIRE RUN... From the Minnesota game on I Held the hands of Giants fans, handed them kleenex and explained to them how ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN if you have the opportunity and health they had as I mapped out their road to the Super Bowl..... I held their heads up as the puked when Eli threw 10 picks... I fed them when they couldn't lift a fork up to their mouths...And then once the whole thing was over, they collectively peaked up from under the couch, wiped food and ketchup from their beer bellies and picked themselves up and acted is if they were the old, Sure of themselves rulers of New York once again....BAWAHHH... Whatever Giants fans.Come back to ENJOYING FOOTBALL..... I think Giant fans calling WFAN and getting all worked up about the Jets is the exact opposite reflection they pretend to be.
Rovers
Footballguy
Oh rly? Is that why when the Ravens cut Trevor Pryce with the intent (and agreement) to re-sign him, he reneged and signed with the Jets instead? To play for Ryan? Because that is exactly what the player said... he wanted to play for Ryan. Bart Scott, J Leonard also followed Ryan to NY. The facts fly in the face of your statement.Don't really have an opinion about Ryan, but the bolded part is absolutely false. The Ravens HATE Ryan, and it isn't just Lewis. Not sure if it's just because he left or not, but the Ravens can't stand him.Thing is, Ryan could care less if people like him or hate him. Players love the guy, from Jason Taylor to every defender on the Ravens (less Lewis because Ryan left him behind). Tomlinson said he'd run through a wall for him too. Ryan so far has done pretty well as a HC. What has he done wrong? Saying he's going to win a super bowl and instilling a winning attitude within a franchise with a history of losing? Ryan doesn't CARE what you think. I kind of like the fact that Giant fans are getting so worked up.
As for Revis... I guess it's OK for everyone BUT a player to say an opposing player takes plays off. That is Moss' history, nuthin new there. When Moss is happy, he puts out. When he isn't, he's a cancer. Belichick was not about to put up with that. Revis has heaped praise on other WR's, like Ocho. Shame on Revis for being honest. At least Revis critisizes opponents, not like Giants players who air it all out at their own publically.
corpcow
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Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.
Are you kidding me? Giants fans are among the most obnoxious, on-again-off-again I've ever seen. My entire family and most of my friends are Giants fans, and like Yankees fans (since most of them are) - they expect to win every year. When they're winning, no one will talk more *&*@ than a Giants fan, and when they're losing no one will disown their team faster. I was there at the MIN game when Eli threw 5 picks and it was an absolute disaster... everyone was giving up on them, chanting "Fire Coughlin", etc - and of course they went on to win the Super Bowl. Just two weeks ago, everyone Giants fan I know was giving up on the team, and now after last week's game they're back on the bandwagon.If nothing else, Jets fans are loyal. We keep losing year after year, and we keep coming back for more. Personally, I LOVE Rex.... it's this attitude that he brings which gives us hope instead of being the poor little Jets.I know Revis talks a lot of crap, but how in the world is that a "Blast"
"He came out full force, early in the game," Revis said. "In the second half, you could tell he was kind of like putting his foot on the brake. But everybody knows that's Randy: sometimes he plays 100 percent, sometimes he doesn't."
Hes 100% right. Yes he does take plays, games and even seasons (Oakland) off.
Wheres the blast?
"He came out full force, early in the game," Revis said. "In the second half, you could tell he was kind of like putting his foot on the brake. But everybody knows that's Randy: sometimes he plays 100 percent, sometimes he doesn't."
Hes 100% right. Yes he does take plays, games and even seasons (Oakland) off.
Wheres the blast?
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kentric
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I agree with Reaper. Football fans in NY are generally more forgiving for the other team. I grew up on Long Island and was a Ranger fan prior to the Islander run and there was huge animosity between Ranger and Islander fans. The same can be said for Mets/Yankees and to a lesser extent Knicks/Nets. But while there may be some negative feeling in the football teams, its mostly related to the gung-ho type fans. For instance, with Fireman Ed and the J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets or with Ryan and his hubris. I'm the poster child for the even-handed mentality as I like both football teams (but only the Rangers, Mets, Knicks) - although I don't despise the Islanders, Yankees and Nets.yeah.I think Football fans in general have more of an appreciation of the overall game and in NY it's no where near the same as Yankees / Mets or Rangers / Islanders......For the most part fans of both teams can enjoy watching the other....Until you get someone like Koya acting all high and mighty... " Maybe me an my buds are more used to winning" crapAs if the guy isn't a lowly Muts fan. Funny, same type of person will cry over Yankee fans all day and n ight butm give them an opening and it's the 1st guy to act like the stereotypical New York Fan....
Jackstraw
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Sure, but raping 16 year olds is probably over the line.What, you can't do blow and strippers with dignity?Must be hard to relinquish top billing this BIG city, huh? Nah, I'm kidding. Revis needs to relax, get back to playing, and do his job.ETA: The dignity part makes me laugh, especially re: Lawrence Taylor.Yeah, Im talking about YOU.I mean, Jets fans have always been a bit of a rough and tumble (read: drunk and bloated) bunch, but you were loveable at least. But this new generation is pukafying. Killing me I tell ya. Maybe we blue blood Giants fans are just used to winning - and dignity.
Rovers
Footballguy
DVR'd the game, and watched it again. I saw what Revis sees.
When Moss lines up, everything from his body launguage to his facial expressions tip off whether or not he is goiung into the pattern and be the primary target. They isolated on Moss a lot last night, and he was so easy to read it was ridiclulous. All Cromartie had to do was look at him and he knew if it was a pass play or a run play.
When Moss wasn't invlolved, he didn't even try to throw a block on Cromartie. He didn't even pretend to care. He didn't try to fake a route, he just stood there, disinterested. Revis was right on spot. If I am a safety, I just look at Moss line up, and I know if I have to worry about him... or get ready to move up in run support.
Moss telegraphs what his offesne is about to do. He can make big plays, but I honestly wonder if he is more of a liability than a help. I think he is a detriment when he knows the play isn't for him. No wonder Belichick jetisoned this guy. Here he is with another new team, and he only puts out when he thinks it's all about him.
Revis was right.
When Moss lines up, everything from his body launguage to his facial expressions tip off whether or not he is goiung into the pattern and be the primary target. They isolated on Moss a lot last night, and he was so easy to read it was ridiclulous. All Cromartie had to do was look at him and he knew if it was a pass play or a run play.
When Moss wasn't invlolved, he didn't even try to throw a block on Cromartie. He didn't even pretend to care. He didn't try to fake a route, he just stood there, disinterested. Revis was right on spot. If I am a safety, I just look at Moss line up, and I know if I have to worry about him... or get ready to move up in run support.
Moss telegraphs what his offesne is about to do. He can make big plays, but I honestly wonder if he is more of a liability than a help. I think he is a detriment when he knows the play isn't for him. No wonder Belichick jetisoned this guy. Here he is with another new team, and he only puts out when he thinks it's all about him.
Revis was right.
packersfan
Footballguy
Revis has spent a lot of time lately trailing Randy Moss and Percy Harvin into the end zone as they score touchdowns. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.
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VaTerp
Footballguy
Disagree completely.Moss often sets up his go routes by coming off the line slow before going into a sprint. He's done this throughout his career. He's never been noted for his run blocking but I didn't see anything last night that indicates he gave less effort than usual. The guy has been on the two most prolific offenses in NFL history and his body language is the same now as it was then IMO. To say that he telegraphs what the offense is about to do is just not accurate.Revis should worry more about his hammy and less about Moss, who he didn't even cover last nite. And the last time he did cover him he was posterized and came up lame as Moss scored a TD.I like Revis and the Jets and I like Moss so I have no bias here. I just disagree completely with your analysis.
Rovers
Footballguy
Revis should not have even been active last night. It looks like he'll be out against Denver now, he clearly could not keep up with Harvin. There was a reason Cromartie drew Moss... Revis is not healthy.That doesn't change the fact that waht Revis said about Moss is the truth, just the facts, Ma'am.
packersfan
Footballguy
He's not telling us anything that hasn't been said about Moss for years. That's part of who Randy Moss is. He takes some plays off and then kills you with big plays. Nothing has changed.Rovers said:
Rovers
Footballguy
I rewound the DVR every time they iso'd on Moss. He does indeed telegraph whether or not he is going to be invlolved in the play. Watch it again and see if you can't help but notice it. That is what I took away from all the replays I've watched repeatedly. Bash Revis all you want. I think he should shut up too, but the point is, I don't think he's wrong. I think Belichick agrees with me. Or rather, I with him and Revis. LOL... as far as the TD Revis pulled his hammy on, that was a perfect throw and a brilliant one handed catch. His hamstring injury has really affected his game, and he is to blame for that with what turned out to be a pointless holdout. Truth is, I don't particularly like Revis. He is turning into the ME player Moss is. That doesn't change the fact that he, and Belichick are right about Moss.VaTerp said:
