RG3 Dynasty Owners (What are you doing now?) (1 Viewer)

[jacobo_moses]

Hey I know if trade RG3 I'll be selling him a little low with his ACL and LCL Surgery he had today. But after reading these 2 articles. (One great one by the Great Dr. Jene)

http://bramelsecondopinion.com/2013/01/09/whats-ahead-for-robert-griffin-iii/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/9/rg3-watch-focuses-on-future-with-knee-surgery-comp/

I'm thinking its all downhill for RG3 from here. He won't ever be the dual threat he was this season. Now that he has had 2 ACL surgeries on the same knee. The risk of re-injury is a lot higher and the dude is only (22 yrs old).

So what are RG3 Dynasty owners getting or trading him for? I'm curious to hear if anyone is or is looking into it??



I'm thinking of trading him for someone like Russell Wilson and some draft picks or someone like Andy Dalton and some upgrades or draft picks!!

What do you guys think??

 

[BlackMamba24]

i have him on a team that i'm rebuilding and i think ill hang onto him as i have kaepernick and freeman for backups. doubt i would be able to get much for him at this point.

 

[jacobo_moses]

I also pose the question to you RG3 Dyn owners. Or those who want to chime in. Do you think now that he has had 2 ACL surgeries in 3-4 yrs he will be more of a pocket passer now? I mean he's gotta realize in order to stick around this league you have to be like Aaron Rodgers. Pass from the pocket as much as you can and Run if its there or you have to. But don't make it an everyday thing. Def players love to take a shot at the QB to teach them a lesson. RG3 isn't exactly Cam Newton big either.

 

[Donsmith753]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

 

[Chazzhawk]

If you have him don't move him now, odds are you won't get good value for him. If you do find a scared RG3 owner, see what it would take to get him, he could be a great buy low.

 

[mikel0254]

If you have him don't move him now, odds are you won't get good value for him. If you do find a scared RG3 owner, see what it would take to get him, he could be a great buy low.

What would you consider good value for him? I still think someone will pay to get him with the hopes he's fully recovered by the start of the season. I don't own him, but I'd still pay for him to get him. No, maybe not as much as I would have last Friday, but no RGIII owner is selling him for a bag of peanuts either (and anyone trying to buy him should know this). Where he was probably ranked in the top 3 or 4 dynasty QB's before the injury (not my rankings, but consensus), you could probably get him for a guy ranked in the back half of the top 10 QB's still. I personally would never trade Stafford straight up for RGIII right now, but some owners who think Stafford has taken a major step back might be willing to deal him for RGIII. If not Stafford, someone ranked close to him might be a good target.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Isn't the added bonus of rushing yards and TDs part of his appeal? I'm not saying that he'll never regain that ability nor am I saying he's not a good passer (he is), but I don't think he would have been a near concenus top 3 dynasty QB without his rushing ability. It's what makes guys like Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson and to a lesser extent Andrew Luck so appealing as well.

 

[mlball77]

I own Brady and Rgiii, luckily. I actually had been shopping Brady a bit, but have taken him off the market. I have a playoff caliber team, so I will lean on Brady in 2013 most likely and stash Rgiii. The only way I would consider moving Rgiii is if I received a crazy-good offer, but that seems unlikely right now. If Rgiii was my only good qb and I was a contender, I probably would look much harder at moving him (unless i could trim some fat at another pos to help me at qb in the short run). Still, even in thus scenario, I would demand a lot for him and there would be a good chance no one would pay my asking price.

 

[Sitch]

I own Brady and Rgiii, luckily. I actually had been shopping Brady a bit, but have taken him off the market. I have a playoff caliber team, so I will lean on Brady in 2013 most likely and stash Rgiii. The only way I would consider moving Rgiii is if I received a crazy-good offer, but that seems unlikely right now. If Rgiii was my only good qb and I was a contender, I probably would look much harder at moving him (unless i could trim some fat at another pos to help me at qb in the short run). Still, even in thus scenario, I would demand a lot for him and there would be a good chance no one would pay my asking price.

Right before our trade deadline, I moved him for Julio (I also have Matt Ryan)...loving the deal more and more every day! Don't want to see the kid get hurt, but I'm guessing his value has dropped a bit since then....

 

[domvin]

I own him in one league, and will only consider trading him when he comes back, unless I get wowed with an offer.In my eyes, he's a hold right now....

 

[TheFanatic]

I own Brady and Rgiii, luckily. I actually had been shopping Brady a bit, but have taken him off the market. I have a playoff caliber team, so I will lean on Brady in 2013 most likely and stash Rgiii. The only way I would consider moving Rgiii is if I received a crazy-good offer, but that seems unlikely right now. If Rgiii was my only good qb and I was a contender, I probably would look much harder at moving him (unless i could trim some fat at another pos to help me at qb in the short run). Still, even in thus scenario, I would demand a lot for him and there would be a good chance no one would pay my asking price.

I'm in a similar situation except with Peyton. I also have Schaub.I got a text this week from a fellow owner saying it sucked that RGIII went down and all. I replied that I got almost the same text about ADP last year and he carried me to the SB (but I lost, still a great season). RGIII will be fine. He is younger than ADP and will heal quickly. He doesn't have to run every time he touches the ball like ADP. And if he develops into more of a pocket passer it means the times he does tuck and run he will have more room and get more yards and hopefully take less hits. Calm down. Look at how fast Welker came back. Every year the medical science for fixing this stuff gets better.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

If you have him don't move him now, odds are you won't get good value for him. If you do find a scared RG3 owner, see what it would take to get him, he could be a great buy low.

Maybe trade them an average "safe" QB with less of a ceiling.

 

[Donsmith753]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Isn't the added bonus of rushing yards and TDs part of his appeal? I'm not saying that he'll never regain that ability nor am I saying he's not a good passer (he is), but I don't think he would have been a near concenus top 3 dynasty QB without his rushing ability. It's what makes guys like Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson and to a lesser extent Andrew Luck so appealing as well.

I can only speak personally but I always believed as he developed and gained experience as a passer his rushing would drop. I don't believe many scouting reports had him as a "running QB", most commented on his strong passing skills.Yes it's obviously a bonus and is now likely to decrease earlier than I previously thought but he's 21/22 and as great a passing prospect to come out in the last however many years.I guess what I'm saying is I don't think his long term value was tied to rushing and that's why I'm not discounting him very much.Sorry this post is probably a bit of a mess, doing it from my phone.

 

[MAC_32]

RG3 owners do not sell him now, if you're that worried wait until he's closer to ready to come back and positive news is around. Non-RG3 owners, unless you're that worried kick the tires and see how cheap you can get him. Buying studs right after a significant injury is usually a winning strategy.

 

[jacobo_moses]

All valid points. Sigmund Bloom. (FBG staff I trust the most who is pretty accurate except his call on Jacquizz Rodgers ) Said that RG3 is a hold too.

 

[jacobo_moses]

After reading this:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/griffins-knee-creates-more-concern-than-advertised/Pretty sure in my Dynasty league after a few big games I'm going to unload him. I just don't see how he can last more then 3 to 5 yrs with that knee. :(

 

[jbz]

I also pose the question to you RG3 Dyn owners. Or those who want to chime in. Do you think now that he has had 2 ACL surgeries in 3-4 yrs he will be more of a pocket passer now? I mean he's gotta realize in order to stick around this league you have to be like Aaron Rodgers. Pass from the pocket as much as you can and Run if its there or you have to. But don't make it an everyday thing. Def players love to take a shot at the QB to teach them a lesson. RG3 isn't exactly Cam Newton big either.

Because pocket passing QBs never get hurt right? Brady tore his ACL, Trent Green tore his ACL, all in the pocket. Basically, it can happen everywhere. The play RG3 originally hurt his knee on was a called pass play where he scrambled (game on the line) and got hit by probably the biggest/fastest combination of man on the planet. Kind of flukey IMO, could have happened to anyone, running QB or not. Point is I don't think he'll stop running completely, but the risk of him getting hurt will always be there, regardless of if he's a pure pocket QB or a running one.

 

[johnadams]

After reading this:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/griffins-knee-creates-more-concern-than-advertised/Pretty sure in my Dynasty league after a few big games I'm going to unload him. I just don't see how he can last more then 3 to 5 yrs with that knee. :(

I'm kinda inclined to go with this. I'll probably sit on him until I can get a top 5ish QB return on him. I might change my mind if there's worse news released in the next 6-8 mos, but that's my sell spot right now. If he stays in a top 10ish range, I think he'll be there long enough that I can adjust my thinking.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Sellers won't want to discount him and buyers won't want to pay full price. He's a hold right now, as mentioned above. Monitor his draft status and see where he goes in dyno start ups. If I owned him, (I don't, took Luck over him in a rookie draft this year), I sell when he regains most of his value. I just don't have a good feeling about him holding up in the NFL. I had the feeling before this past season started, and it's grown with this injury.

 

[jacobo_moses]

Does anyone like one of these QB's better then RG3 for the long term in Dynasty? Especially knowing what we know now with RG3's 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee, torn meniscus, and damaged cartilage for the 2nd time in the same knee. Matt Cassell Brady Quinn Alex SmithColin KaepernickMike VickNick FolesTony RomoCarson PalmerTerrell PryorRussell WilsonRyan LindleyGreg McElroyEli ManningJoe FlaccoCharlie Batch

 

[MAC_32]

Does anyone like one of these QB's better then RG3 for the long term in Dynasty? Especially knowing what we know now with RG3's 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee, torn meniscus, and damaged cartilage for the 2nd time in the same knee. Matt Cassell Brady Quinn Alex SmithColin KaepernickMike VickNick FolesTony RomoCarson PalmerTerrell PryorRussell WilsonRyan LindleyGreg McElroyEli ManningJoe FlaccoCharlie Batch

Pretty wild list you got going there.Kaepernick and Wilson are in the conversation. Romo and Eli are behind, but closer now. Flacco might have a visual. The rest don't.

 

[MAC_32]

Everytime I see this thread bumped I think back to Mel Gibson in Braveheart

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[jacobo_moses]

Its part of our Free Agent Draft list. We downsized our Dynasty league from 32 to 24. So these are the QB's available. Well Luck is available but he will be picked no 1. And there is no way anyone is getting him from that owner. I'm in trade talks for the no 2 pick. And I could get one of these QB's with that pick is why I brought it up. I just don't know about RG3 and that knee man. :(

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Does anyone like one of these QB's better then RG3 for the long term in Dynasty? Especially knowing what we know now with RG3's 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee, torn meniscus, and damaged cartilage for the 2nd time in the same knee. Matt Cassell Brady Quinn Alex SmithMike VickNick FolesCarson PalmerTerrell PryorRyan LindleyGreg McElroyJoe FlaccoCharlie Batch

 

[jacobo_moses]

Yes I agree those are a joke. But what about Eli, Capernick, and Wilson? Those guys are legit. Maybe I'm better off with one of them is what I'm asking?

 

[voiceofunreason]

I also pose the question to you RG3 Dyn owners. Or those who want to chime in. Do you think now that he has had 2 ACL surgeries in 3-4 yrs he will be more of a pocket passer now? I mean he's gotta realize in order to stick around this league you have to be like Aaron Rodgers. Pass from the pocket as much as you can and Run if its there or you have to. But don't make it an everyday thing. Def players love to take a shot at the QB to teach them a lesson. RG3 isn't exactly Cam Newton big either.

Not that you said it here, but it drives me a little nuts when some people just look at his passing numbers this year and say he'd be a good pocket qb. Their whole passing game was based on the read-option. He threw screens and deep to guys who were wide open. Yes he could become a good passing qb but he would take a serious step backwards. He has to learn a whole new system plus how to read defenses. He seems like a hard worker and smart but I doubt it will happen until he's forced to. Vick has never learned how to play qb properly. But then he's a bit of an ### and not overly bright from what I've seen.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Yes I agree those are a joke. But what about Eli, Capernick, and Wilson? Those guys are legit. Maybe I'm better off with one of them is what I'm asking?

Well not sure why you has to ask if you'd be better off with Brady Quinn or Ryan Lindely than Griffin?Right now Griffin is still above all on that list with Kaep and Russell getting some consideration due to Griffin's health. Eli and Romo would make good backup plans to hold the fort down - but the rest of that list isn't within miles of Griffin's value even if he has his leg amputated at the knee this offseason.

 

[DansRams]

After reading this:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/griffins-knee-creates-more-concern-than-advertised/Pretty sure in my Dynasty league after a few big games I'm going to unload him. I just don't see how he can last more then 3 to 5 yrs with that knee. :(

I wouldnt overreact to an obviously speculative article.This: "We expect a full recovery, and it is everybody's hope and belief that due to Robert's high motivation, he will be ready for the 2013 season," Andrews said in a statement released by the Redskins. "The goal of his treatment is to give him the best opportunity for a long professional career." is what the actual highly respected medical profesional said. The cartlidge bs is pure speculation.All that said an ACL/LCL is still a major injury and RG3 certainly needs to modify his game to more of a Rodgers style game, but that is the style he is best suited for. Anyone that drafted him to be the next Vick or Cam, didnt even see the potential this guy has. He has the ability to be a great passer who just happens to have elite running ability. If all goes well with the knee, and I am happy to bet that it will because RG will work his butt off, I think we will see this hurry up the transition to the pass first run second version of RG3 that will make him one of the truly elite qbs in the league.Dont Panic. Hold with confidence.

 

[jacobo_moses]

I think more then anything its the meniscus and cartlidge damage to the same knee twice that worries me. And the kid is only 22 yrs old. That stuff just doesn't ever heal back to normal. Unless they've found a way to put more cartlidge or meniscus back in your knee. If they have sign me up scotty.

 

[jacobo_moses]

So if Football Guys posts this. How are you guys not concerned??? It scares the heck out of me. Redskins | More concerns about Robert Griffin's injury Sat Jan 12, 02:48 PMThe Washington Redskins are concerned about QB Robert Griffin III's (knee) injury because of the damage that has occurred to the cartilage in his knee after suffering two torn anterior cruciate ligaments in less than four years. There are concerns about how much cartilage is left in his knee and how long it will last.Our view: There's a chance Griffin will be dealing with bone on bone contact when he comes back and chronic pain in his knee.

 

[menobrown]

Yes I agree those are a joke. But what about Eli, Capernick, and Wilson? Those guys are legit. Maybe I'm better off with one of them is what I'm asking?

A case could be made for all of those guys over RG3. I'd tend to think Wilson and CK are more in the discussion but if you value a track record of success and availability over upside a consistent producer like Eli who gives you the full 16 games every year would be appealing. I'm not that guy, I'd rather go for upside.The biggest reason I'd rate Griffin over CK and Wilson are their respective teams defenses as we know them today which would lead one to think the Skins need more out of their QB than the other two teams. That and fact I still think a healthy RG3 is the best all around QB of the group and the best fantasy QB prospect I've ever seen. But if his health was not a gamble we would not be having his discussion so sort of a moot point to bring up. I can say in one league I have CK I went into GB game thinking if he shined well in the playoffs I'd offer him to the RG3 owner. After watching CK look like Vince Young in the Rose Bowl I'm holding. Part of that has to do with fact I have Crabtree on that team and like the hookup and the other part is my main QB on that team since it's inception in 2010 has been Vick and I've grown a little tired of my QB's being hurt or worse starting but not completing a game. That speaks to how close I have these guys rated right now where in general I prefer RG3 but given the right circumstances of a particular team I might prefer a guy like Kaepernick.

 

[DansRams]

So if Football Guys posts this. How are you guys not concerned??? It scares the heck out of me. Redskins | More concerns about Robert Griffin's injury Sat Jan 12, 02:48 PMThe Washington Redskins are concerned about QB Robert Griffin III's (knee) injury because of the damage that has occurred to the cartilage in his knee after suffering two torn anterior cruciate ligaments in less than four years. There are concerns about how much cartilage is left in his knee and how long it will last.Our view: There's a chance Griffin will be dealing with bone on bone contact when he comes back and chronic pain in his knee.

Because Football Guys got their info from the same bs nbc article speculating cartilage damage. This is bs reporting but unfortunately that is what we have to filter through in the internet era of media.If I am wrong I challenge the football guys to provide a legit source from the redskins that actually said this and I will stand corrected. I have read everything I could find on this and I havent seen any legit source quoted as saying anything about cartilage damage, so I doubt they can provide anything and imo, if they can't, they should tell everyone that follows them them are sorry for spreading bs as if it is fact.

 

[meyerj31]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

 

[jacobo_moses]

I may have said this before but I'll say it again. I talked to Sigmund and he said if you can move him for Luck or for Capernick (for not a whole lot) he would. But other then that RG3 you should hold. Man I just wish his knee hadn't had so much trauma in 3 to 4 yrs. It takes its toll for sure. :(

 

[DansRams]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

I can't speak for Donsmith, but why is this rubbish? In RG3's final college season he had amazing passing numbers and just okay rushing numbers. I drafted him because I thought he was a great QB that happened to have world class speed.....not a running qb I hoped could pass.I dont think anyone was thinking Peyton or Brady if that is what you are getting at, but Rodgers or Steve Young is what I was thinking. I certainly wasnt thinking Vick.

 

[jacobo_moses]

Check this out!Robert Griffin III - QB - Washington Redskins Posted 1/18/13 10:41pm et Rick Wright, professor in the department of orthopedic surgery at Washington University's School of Medicine, said Washington Redskins QB Robert Griffin III is statistically more at risk of suffering a third anterior cruciate ligament tear than he was a second ACL tear. Wright said the failure rate of a second ACL reconstruction is 13 to 15 percent while the failure rate of a first ACL reconstruction is five to eight percent.Huddle Up: Never tell RG3 the odds. Or Han Solo, for that matter. As if RG3's dynasty owners weren't already worked into a tizzy, now they have to concern themselves with the statistical probability that their guy is even more susceptible to another knee injury.I swear it just doesn't look good.

 

[MAC_32]

Relax.If the thought of owning RG3 scares you that much then wait until he is about ready to come back, or the day after his first big game back, and sell him.

 

[jacobo_moses]

Exactly what I'm thinking about doing.

 

[CoachJankySpanky]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

I can't speak for Donsmith, but why is this rubbish? In RG3's final college season he had amazing passing numbers and just okay rushing numbers. I drafted him because I thought he was a great QB that happened to have world class speed.....not a running qb I hoped could pass.I dont think anyone was thinking Peyton or Brady if that is what you are getting at, but Rodgers or Steve Young is what I was thinking. I certainly wasnt thinking Vick.

Can't say I've ever seen anyone compare him to Rodgers or Young, pre-injury. Saw plenty of Vick comparisons with better accuracy and that's pretty much what he was. People were right with that obvious comparison but are arguing that they never thought that way to make themselves feel better about the injury. This injury was apparently a Godsend so he can become the QB they envisioned all along. I just don't understand people's need to be right all the time. They were right in the first place but are arguing that everyone else was wrong in that right thinking so they can hopefully be right again in their wishful thinking. I'm sure when he was ripping off that 80 yard run and smoking those defenders, all RG3 owners were yelling, "#$@% yeah! That's why I drafted this guy!" Not, "Gee whiz, what's going on here? I didn't sign up for this. What are you doing Shanny? This really is quite dangerous. Could you please tone it down a little? I'd much prefer an 80 yard passing TD that nets me 7.2 points over that 14 spot he just put up. A little more Schaub and alot less Sayers, please."

 

[squistion]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB.

I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

Reread the above - he didn't really say that.Speaking for myself, what impressed me the most about RG3 was not his running ability but his passing skills. I didn't think when I drafted him I was getting the next Cam Newton or Michael Vick. He reminded me of Fran Tarkenton, a scrambling QB who could throw the long ball with pinpoint accurarcy. Tarkenton used his legs not to move the chains by running, but rather to buy him time until he found an open receiver. As such, while the knee injury concerns me, it doesn't concern me that much because I thought eventually Griffin would morph into a Tarkenton like QB. And with the injury that transition will probably happen sooner rather than later (assuming he learns to play smarter).

 

[jacobo_moses]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB.

I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

I can't speak for Donsmith, but why is this rubbish? In RG3's final college season he had amazing passing numbers and just okay rushing numbers. I drafted him because I thought he was a great QB that happened to have world class speed.....not a running qb I hoped could pass.I dont think anyone was thinking Peyton or Brady if that is what you are getting at, but Rodgers or Steve Young is what I was thinking. I certainly wasnt thinking Vick.

Can't say I've ever seen anyone compare him to Rodgers or Young, pre-injury. Saw plenty of Vick comparisons with better accuracy and that's pretty much what he was. People were right with that obvious comparison but are arguing that they never thought that way to make themselves feel better about the injury. This injury was apparently a Godsend so he can become the QB they envisioned all along. I just don't understand people's need to be right all the time. They were right in the first place but are arguing that everyone else was wrong in that right thinking so they can hopefully be right again in their wishful thinking. I'm sure when he was ripping off that 80 yard run and smoking those defenders, all RG3 owners were yelling, "#$@% yeah! That's why I drafted this guy!" Not, "Gee whiz, what's going on here? I didn't sign up for this. What are you doing Shanny? This really is quite dangerous. Could you please tone it down a little? I'd much prefer an 80 yard passing TD that nets me 7.2 points over that 14 spot he just put up. A little more Schaub and alot less Sayers, please."

Actually the infamous Matt Waldman (who knows quite a bit about Rookie Prospects and called the Russell Wilson breakout) said RG3's upside if he takes his lumps and learns to do more pocket passing has Aaron Rodgers upside and saw a lot of similarities that way. Just saying. So it was said he had some Aaron Rodgers upside to his game if he just refined a few things.

 

[DansRams]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB. I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

I can't speak for Donsmith, but why is this rubbish? In RG3's final college season he had amazing passing numbers and just okay rushing numbers. I drafted him because I thought he was a great QB that happened to have world class speed.....not a running qb I hoped could pass.I dont think anyone was thinking Peyton or Brady if that is what you are getting at, but Rodgers or Steve Young is what I was thinking. I certainly wasnt thinking Vick.

Can't say I've ever seen anyone compare him to Rodgers or Young, pre-injury. Saw plenty of Vick comparisons with better accuracy and that's pretty much what he was. People were right with that obvious comparison but are arguing that they never thought that way to make themselves feel better about the injury. This injury was apparently a Godsend so he can become the QB they envisioned all along. I just don't understand people's need to be right all the time. They were right in the first place but are arguing that everyone else was wrong in that right thinking so they can hopefully be right again in their wishful thinking. I'm sure when he was ripping off that 80 yard run and smoking those defenders, all RG3 owners were yelling, "#$@% yeah! That's why I drafted this guy!" Not, "Gee whiz, what's going on here? I didn't sign up for this. What are you doing Shanny? This really is quite dangerous. Could you please tone it down a little? I'd much prefer an 80 yard passing TD that nets me 7.2 points over that 14 spot he just put up. A little more Schaub and alot less Sayers, please."

Actually Waldman did compare him to Young and Rogers in the RSP. He mentions Vick too....for obvious reasons. BTW, trying to lump all rg3 owners in to one box? really? You speak for all of us?

 

[DansRams]

I didn draft him because I thought he'd be a great dual threat QB. I drafted him because I thought he'd be a great QB.

I'm not moving him.

Well this is just rubbish. Move him or don't move him, but don't lie telling everyone you drafted him to be the next great pocket passing QB.

Reread the above - he didn't really say that.Speaking for myself, what impressed me the most about RG3 was not his running ability but his passing skills. I didn't think when I drafted him I was getting the next Cam Newton or Michael Vick. He reminded me of Fran Tarkenton, a scrambling QB who could throw the long ball with pinpoint accurarcy. Tarkenton used his legs not to move the chains by running, but rather to buy him time until he found an open receiver. As such, while the knee injury concerns me, it doesn't concern me that much because I thought eventually Griffin would morph into a Tarkenton like QB. And with the injury that transition will probably happen sooner rather than later (assuming he learns to play smarter).

Agree 100% I didnt actually think about Tarkenton, but I did think he would have ability to use his legs to extend plays and make throws downfield. If I thought he was just another Vick I wouldnt have been that high on him.

 

[Todd Andrews]

His comparables have always matched up best with Young and Tarkenton (just faster than them) and anyone thinking before or now that RGIII was the next Vick doesnt really understand the game.

 

[cstu]

Check this out!Robert Griffin III - QB - Washington Redskins Posted 1/18/13 10:41pm et Rick Wright, professor in the department of orthopedic surgery at Washington University's School of Medicine, said Washington Redskins QB Robert Griffin III is statistically more at risk of suffering a third anterior cruciate ligament tear than he was a second ACL tear. Wright said the failure rate of a second ACL reconstruction is 13 to 15 percent while the failure rate of a first ACL reconstruction is five to eight percent.Huddle Up: Never tell RG3 the odds. Or Han Solo, for that matter. As if RG3's dynasty owners weren't already worked into a tizzy, now they have to concern themselves with the statistical probability that their guy is even more susceptible to another knee injury.I swear it just doesn't look good.

This isn't the end of the world IMO. What it means is that Griffin owners need to have a good backup QB. When he's on the field I expect top 5 numbers from him, but if he gets hurt again he'll go in for another surgery. Not the ideal situation but it's no reason to panic.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I think RGIII will be fine even if more cautious running.

 

[jacobo_moses]

How does this help us feel better that according to most Expert Dr's in James Andrews Field feel RG3 has a 15-18% chance of re-tearing his ACL a 3rd Time. With the kid only being 22. That should scare the crap out of us Dynasty owners. WOrries me a bunch.

I think RGIII will be fine even if more cautious running.

 

[MAC_32]

I slept fine last night.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I am wanting to hold him........I was offered Tannehill and Bradshaw for RGIII and Mark Ingram this morning. I am at least thinking about it but will likely hold........

 

[Prinefan]

I am wanting to hold him........I was offered Tannehill and Bradshaw for RGIII and Mark Ingram this morning. I am at least thinking about it but will likely hold........

I wouldn't consider that. Waaaaaaay too low. I'm holding until I see what's going on. Getting Cousins everywhere I can. I think RG3 will probably start on the pup for the first 6 games.