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RGII and Fred Davis (1 Viewer)
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Buck Stop
Footballguy
So far in the preseason and last week, its true that RG3 didn't really look much to Davis. As a F.Davis owner, I'm a little concerned, but as a Skins fan, I'm happy to see RG3 looking down field for his WRs, and not just on little screen passes.
Right...but i think what would be really telling is to know from someone who followed RGIII closely in college whether or not he liked throwing to his TEs. Luck leaned heavily on Fleener in college...who if any TE did RGIII lean on?So far in the preseason and last week, its true that RG3 didn't really look much to Davis. As a F.Davis owner, I'm a little concerned, but as a Skins fan, I'm happy to see RG3 looking down field for his WRs, and not just on little screen passes.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
according to this 4 WRs got most of the passes thrown last year at Baylor. Only 256 yards out of the TE position.Right...but i think what would be really telling is to know from someone who followed RGIII closely in college whether or not he liked throwing to his TEs. Luck leaned heavily on Fleener in college...who if any TE did RGIII lean on?So far in the preseason and last week, its true that RG3 didn't really look much to Davis. As a F.Davis owner, I'm a little concerned, but as a Skins fan, I'm happy to see RG3 looking down field for his WRs, and not just on little screen passes.
jurb26
Footballguy
I follow college football, though not Baylor pretty well. I have to be honest, I'm not sure if Baylor even had a TE on the roster. Obviously I'm joking a bit. None the less, the Baylor offense didn't use TEs much at all. I don't know that we can really read or make anything out of that right now.
Awesome exactly what I was looking for thanks dude. This combined with the preseason and week 1 production, in my mind, makes a strong argument for cutting bait on Fred Davis as an Elite TE1 or even a solid TE1 option this year. He might have his big games here and there but overall my gut tells me he disappoints. I don't think Griffin is fond of throwing to his TEs. He is a solid backup TE.according to this 4 WRs got most of the passes thrown last year at Baylor. Only 256 yards out of the TE position.Right...but i think what would be really telling is to know from someone who followed RGIII closely in college whether or not he liked throwing to his TEs. Luck leaned heavily on Fleener in college...who if any TE did RGIII lean on?So far in the preseason and last week, its true that RG3 didn't really look much to Davis. As a F.Davis owner, I'm a little concerned, but as a Skins fan, I'm happy to see RG3 looking down field for his WRs, and not just on little screen passes.
firstseason1988
Footballguy
I think he will need to learn to utilize his TE, so hold on big rosters and dynasty... But yeah, sold backup TE... I am hoping he does well on Graham's bye week...Awesome exactly what I was looking for thanks dude. This combined with the preseason and week 1 production, in my mind, makes a strong argument for cutting bait on Fred Davis as an Elite TE1 or even a solid TE1 option this year. He might have his big games here and there but overall my gut tells me he disappoints. I don't think Griffin is fond of throwing to his TEs. He is a solid backup TE.according to this 4 WRs got most of the passes thrown last year at Baylor. Only 256 yards out of the TE position.Right...but i think what would be really telling is to know from someone who followed RGIII closely in college whether or not he liked throwing to his TEs. Luck leaned heavily on Fleener in college...who if any TE did RGIII lean on?So far in the preseason and last week, its true that RG3 didn't really look much to Davis. As a F.Davis owner, I'm a little concerned, but as a Skins fan, I'm happy to see RG3 looking down field for his WRs, and not just on little screen passes.
fatness
Footballguy
I think Griffin will be "fond of" throwing to whomever's open as he goes through his reads on plays Kyle Shanahan calls. I think preseason games are an indication of nothing in this regard, since the whole offense was kept under wraps during preseason. There's been 1 regular season game, not enough to establish any kind of order or preference in playcalling, preferences, or defensive coverages. I don't own Davis or Griffin.
The Kuhn
Footballguy
They said on SiriusXM yesterday that they specifically drew up the game plan vs. the Saints to match RGIII's offense at Baylor to make him more comfortable in his first start. They'll probably work Davis into his reads more as the season goes on (and if Garcon's injury lingers or other WRs start to drop) but it could be slow production for Davis for at least the first few weeks.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
footballnerd
Footballguy
Week 1 guys
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If we're talking dynasty you make a good point.But Manning's rookie year at Indy he had a passer rating of 71.2.
The Dynasty value train for Davis is going choo choo choo choo right now.
But in my 15 player, 2QB salary cap league, Im thinking he might be going to the wire to make room for Cassel time on my bye weeks.
Will probably hold off one more week in case this was a fluke on the dropping thing. For buying I am offering at the end of the week.
But in my 15 player, 2QB salary cap league, Im thinking he might be going to the wire to make room for Cassel time on my bye weeks.
Will probably hold off one more week in case this was a fluke on the dropping thing. For buying I am offering at the end of the week.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
at half of this thread saying he's droppable now.Im not happy with his week 1 production, but he only had 1 target less than Moss and 2 less than Robinson. Im more happy with how good RG3 looked. Garcon is going to be the top target when he's out there, and at this point I think team's realize he demands double coverage. Davis is their 2nd biggest receiving weapon, and I think its only a matter of time until he starts producing as expected.
Even without this thought process, I dont think he's its worth cutting bait for Marcedes or Bennett, who are the only TE's on my WW that remotely interest me.
It's a very tough call and I agree that it's still very early to write off Davis. I also agree that he will have his weeks where he gets his. A year similar to what he had last year isn't out of the question. But to me I feel like that is his ceiling now, while I thought it would be way higher (like Hernandez higher) before week 1.
I have no actual proof it's just my gut. But I thin you really have to take a franchise qb's tendencies into account when attempting to project what his skill players will do. Griffin didn't throw much to his te's in college, he barely targeted Davis in the preseason, and now in week 1 we saw him feature the WRs much more than TE. It's not a strong trend yet but I'm seeing the beginning of a trend forming.
I remember being very high on john carlson. Problem with him in Seattle was that hasselbeck (outside of a short time with Jeramy Stevens) really doesn't like throwingto his te's. Bc of that Carlson never met his potential. Hassy did the same thing to Jared cool in Tennessee. So I guess having that in the back of my mind I want to have a quick read on the Davis situation and trade him away before others catch on.
For me Davis is expendable as its a deep league and I have him, Witten, Hernandez, and m Bennett.
I have no actual proof it's just my gut. But I thin you really have to take a franchise qb's tendencies into account when attempting to project what his skill players will do. Griffin didn't throw much to his te's in college, he barely targeted Davis in the preseason, and now in week 1 we saw him feature the WRs much more than TE. It's not a strong trend yet but I'm seeing the beginning of a trend forming.
I remember being very high on john carlson. Problem with him in Seattle was that hasselbeck (outside of a short time with Jeramy Stevens) really doesn't like throwingto his te's. Bc of that Carlson never met his potential. Hassy did the same thing to Jared cool in Tennessee. So I guess having that in the back of my mind I want to have a quick read on the Davis situation and trade him away before others catch on.
For me Davis is expendable as its a deep league and I have him, Witten, Hernandez, and m Bennett.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Rookie QBs love TEs, and they use them as a safety valves when things get a bit rough.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Apprently not RG#
Things haven't gotten rough yet for RG3!
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
This was proven false a couple of years ago, but it continues to be repeated as gospel."It is known".But it actually isn't.
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
sounds like a good buy low
Could be...its still early so davis can end up the #1 TE for all we know. Im just not banking on that.
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whitem0nkey
Footballguy
ok, show the link please
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Check out the Browns stat line.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Gigantic difference between TE1 and a droppable TE (~TE15-18)'rickyg said:
Badgers Fan
Footballguy
Fred Davis is a mismatch for defenses. He is one of those big, fast, and very athletic tight ends. He can really play. It is odd to see how little he has been used, but let's see what happens vs the Rams before jumping to any conclusions. I think that the Redskins would be wise to use him, but time will tell.
jurb26
Footballguy
He hasn't been used because Wash has been catering their offense around what RG3 did at Baylor right now. Baylor ran a spread that basically ignored the TE position. That will change over time.I agree with you, Davis is way too talented to not get more involved. I'm not sure why they don't expand his role to fit more into the system. Perhaps because they don't expect to make it routine.
This is definitely great insight. But at the end of the day it points to a slow start and a down year for Davis of its true, depending on how long it takes to move away from that Baylor-esque offense.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
bum deal... gotta go shopping for TE's in both leagues this week.. the one where i took a TE high (hernandez)and the one where i bottom fished with FDavis
Shutout
Footballguy
Yeah, this is not going to work out as many had hoped (for now).
I had said something to the effect the other day that I think it CAN happen but the priority right now is getting the QB/RB/WR positions going first. The Broncos with the great TE was the polishing move, not the foundation and I think its the same in this case. It may come, but its just not the right time.
I had said something to the effect the other day that I think it CAN happen but the priority right now is getting the QB/RB/WR positions going first. The Broncos with the great TE was the polishing move, not the foundation and I think its the same in this case. It may come, but its just not the right time.
Inspiration
Footballguy
Fred Davis tied for the team lead in targets against the Rams with 5. The problem is that there aren't alot of targets to go around right now (Griffin had only 26 and 29 pass attempts in his first 2 games).
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I'm getting worried
