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Right or wrong? (1 Viewer)

Who is in the wrong in the second story?

  • Minivan driver

    Votes: 34 32.1%
  • Truck driver

    Votes: 13 12.3%
  • Both wrong

    Votes: 58 54.7%
  • Neither wrong

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
    106

bostonfred

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Two vehicles going downhill on an icy road.  One, a minivan in the left lane, is doing 55 MPH. The other, a pickup with a trailer, is doing 75 MPH in the left lane.  When the pickup approaches, the minivan stays in the left lane. The pickup passes on the right and comes closer to the minivan than either of them would like, on icy roads.

At this point, who is right or wrong?  

Second story -

Minivan driver follows the piclup driver to his house. 

Pickup driver gets out of the vehicle and approaches the van who followed him there.

Minivan has two adults and four older kids/young adults.

Pickup driver pulls out a pistol and cocks it

Minivan driver starts screaming at him for his driving.

Don't miss the follow up question at the top of page 2

 
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I was driving to work today going 65 in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway.  I see this car in the right lane just ahead of me begin a lane change with no signal, that left her right in my lap.  As soon as she established her position 5 feet ahead of me she looked in the rear-view mirror and started yelling at me like I was wrong for tailgating.  I promptly hit the horn for the next 20 seconds until she moved back over to the far right lane.  ####### moron. 

 
After reading "icy roads" I decided to go with both at fault...for driving that fast on ice regardless of lane.

 
I was driving to work today going 65 in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway.  I see this car in the right lane just ahead of me begin a lane change with no signal, that left her right in my lap.  As soon as she established her position 5 feet ahead of me she looked in the rear-view mirror and started yelling at me like I was wrong for tailgating.  I promptly hit the horn for the next 20 seconds until she moved back over to the far right lane.  ####### moron. 
This isn't about you, Tim.

 
Depending on the type of road, if not a highway, the van is fine although should have moved over.  Possibly more ice in the right lane and felt more comfortable in the left which is appropriate at times. 

Following a car to yell at them is ALWAYS wrong and just plain stupid. Perfect example of why in this story. If you feel that wronged, get the tag and call the cops, otherwise just leave it alone.  Especially with family in the car that you are putting at risk.

Overall, pickup driver mostly to blame in both stories unless he really felt threatened in the second and then completely understandable. My guess, though, is probably not and he just wanted to be a badass.

Whole bunch of dumb going around for all parties involved here.

 
No one wrong in the first scenario. Van wasn't comfy changing lanes. PU driver is experienced on the ice and passed on the right. No big deal.

Both wrong on the second. Never follow someone home. Let it go. And never pull a gun unless you are really in a bad spot.

 
I was driving to work today going 65 in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway.  I see this car in the right lane just ahead of me begin a lane change with no signal, that left her right in my lap.  As soon as she established her position 5 feet ahead of me she looked in the rear-view mirror and started yelling at me like I was wrong for tailgating.  I promptly hit the horn for the next 20 seconds until she moved back over to the far right lane.  ####### moron. 
#### that #####

 
If I were the pickup driver and I noticed this person was following me home, then I'd probably drive to the nearest police station and offer to the minivan driver to work our differences out with a police officer present.  But if I didn't notice this person following me home and they pull up in my driveway with a carload of people?  Yeah.  Then I'd rightfully take that action as a threat.  I don't take kindly to an angry stranger following me home and no one else should either.

 
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Both at fault but I blame the mini van driver more.  Seriously who follows someone home because they were passed in the right lane?  Especially with kids in the car. That's incredibly stupid.

 
Sure seems like brandishing a weapon is a bit of an overreaction to a minivan following someone home.

Ok Paul Harvey, what's the rest of the story here?

 
Also, if you follow someone home after a minor traffic issue where no one is hurt, expect to have a gun pulled on you.

 
I went with truck driver and both. 

75 on icy roads is too fast, and all cars should recognize that changing lanes is awfully dangerous on ice. Following somebody home on icy roads over this is stupid, however. One should just be thankful to be alive. 

Pulling a gun and cocking it also an overreaction in this instance. Sometimes an explanation might suffice.  

 
I went with truck driver and both. 

75 on icy roads is too fast, and all cars should recognize that changing lanes is awfully dangerous on ice. Following somebody home on icy roads over this is stupid, however. One should just be thankful to be alive. 

Pulling a gun and cocking it also an overreaction in this instance. Sometimes an explanation might suffice.  
If you get followed home by a stranger in an ice storm and don't know who's in the car, and the guy's irate about something on the road, it's not insane to think he's got a gun.  Sadly.

 
If you get followed home by a stranger in an ice storm and don't know who's in the car, and the guy's irate about something on the road, it's not insane to think he's got a gun.  Sadly.
It's not insane. I just thought it was wrong to pull yours out and #### it. I think escalations of force come into play, and cocking a gun seems extreme. It's not the weapon, it's the cocking of the hammer that bf gets into that does it for me. I guess, in a corny way, I remember Cypress Hill and the emphasis on what exactly a cocked hammer meant.  

I guess we differ here. 

eta* of course, I used a word that got censored in a non-censorious way. I wonder how the OP got away with it.  :laughs:

 
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It's not insane. I just thought it was wrong to pull yours out and #### it. I think escalations of force come into play, and cocking a gun seems extreme. It's not the weapon, it's the cocking of the hammer that bf gets into that does it for me. I guess, in a corny way, I remember Cypress Hill and the emphasis on what exactly a cocked hammer meant.  

I guess we differ here. 

eta* of course, I used a word that got censored in a non-censorious way. I wonder how the OP got away with it.  :laughs:
I agree it's extreme but I'm not at all shocked by it and I understand the impulse. 

 
Both stories the minivan driver created the problem. Get out of the left lane if someone wants to pass.  Never escalate (follow) an traffic issue.  You never know who or what you'll be dealing with.

 
How can we properly answer this scenario without first knowing what the pickup had in the trailer?  Scrap wood?  Bars of gold?  Las Vegas hookers?

 
I was driving to work today going 65 in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway.  I see this car in the right lane just ahead of me begin a lane change with no signal, that left her right in my lap.  As soon as she established her position 5 feet ahead of me she looked in the rear-view mirror and started yelling at me like I was wrong for tailgating.  I promptly hit the horn for the next 20 seconds until she moved back over to the far right lane.  ####### moron. 
Sounds like a Maryland driver. They love the no look, no signal lane change, just drift over and let others deal with it.

 
All wrong in all cases. No one was acting responsibly or safely in either story.  There are shades of grey, but all were in the wrong at some point.

 
*Guys in pick-ups who drive way too fast in bad conditions are tools...we get it...you're cool...your pick-up is bad ###...

*Anyone who follows someone to their house is an idiot...if you do it with your kids in the car you are mentally ill...

*I don't blame the pick-up guy for pulling out his gun when someone follows you home...you have no clue who that person is or what his intentions are...

*Refreshing to see a story about bad driving that does not involve an Asian...

*Tailgating should be a jail-able offense...anyone who does it is a complete d*uche...

 
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Both and minivan driver.  No reason at all to follow the guy home, or start an incident. Anything that follows was completely avoidable.

 
Left lane is for serious drivers.  If you aren't serious, GTFO
Two thoughts...First, not knowing what the speed limit was, both are wrong; on an icy road, drive slow.

Second, a while ago I did a drive in Europe. Their 'method' for highway driving is for people to drive in right lane, with the left lane is only used for passing; when someone starts to pass, they turn their blinkers on and leave them on until they pass and return to the right lane. Obviously this doesn't work in high traffic, but this story doesn't sound like that.

 
Follow up question

The minivan driver would like to know how to get revenge on the pickup driver. They know the guy's name, home address and business.

 
Follow up question

The minivan driver would like to know how to get revenge on the pickup driver. They know the guy's name, home address and business.
Start with an IQ test considering you want to get revenge on a guy who pulled a gun on you in his driveway when you were the one at fault to begin with.  

 

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