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'Kool-Aid Larry said:
SI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."
It's the Pats.I have it on good authority.
Come on. You can post that without revealing your source!
They are the one team that has a stockpile of draftpicks that could do the move if they chose to. I was actually thinking the Patriots when I first saw King's report. That could possibly put Mallet in play as well.
Mallett in play for what?
 
I don't get why the pats would do this. Mallett has kept his name out of the papers and seems to be liked by BB. And he seems to get along with Brady and is being groomed to take over in 3-5 years when Brady retires. To give up a boatload if picks for RG3 seems crazy for the pats who are if anything going to try to give Brady more weapons. The pats know their window with Brady is closing. I

As a pats fan I would throw up in my mouth of they did this.

 
My opinion:

There is no mystery team. The Rams can already see a situation where Manning and Flynn go to two of their possible trade partners, leaving just one team left among Skins/browns/Fins, and this 3 first round pick nonsense disappears. They plant a little story with King, who knows he is getting used for disinformation, but doesn't care, and if it turns out to be true, HE got the scoop.

 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.

mark my words.

They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil.

Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.

 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.mark my words.They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil. Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.
They'll get a team and close to what they are looking for. It might come from outside the 3-7 picks (picking this year) but a team will give it up. The new/revised rookie salaries make the risk much easier to absorb.
 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.mark my words.They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil. Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.
They aren't getting F'd, they just aren't getting three first round picks.
 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.mark my words.They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil. Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.
This doesnt make sense kid, thats your blind hate because you want the browns to get him
 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.mark my words.They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil. Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.
This doesnt make sense kid, thats your blind hate because you want the browns to get him
?I don't even think the Browns are going to get him. I want us to, yes. But don't think we willI just don't think the Rams will get close to what is being reported. And they really do need Kalil. Or if that fails, Claiborne. and they won't get either if they drop out of the top 6-7.
 
The only team that's gonna get F'd, is the Rams.

mark my words.

They'll get half of what they wanted/expected... sit still and draft Kalil.

Which I guess doesn't mean they're F'd, they NEED kalil.
This doesnt make sense kid, thats your blind hate because you want the browns to get him
?I don't even think the Browns are going to get him. I want us to, yes. But don't think we will

I just don't think the Rams will get close to what is being reported.

And they really do need Kalil. Or if that fails, Claiborne. and they won't get either if they drop out of the top 6-7.
Ignore any chatter from anyone about the draft, they are all lying.
 
Let's talk rankings (redraft, dynasty, keeper) for RGIII and Luck:

1. Redraft: Mike Clay of Pro Football Focus has Griffin at 12 and Luck at 19 in his obviously very early redraft rankings. Mike's projections are very stat-driven and based on historical trends, and he's not one to be swayed by an extraordinary performance (Cam Newton), so it's not surprising that he's not projecting either to be in the top 5. It makes sense to me that Griffin's running ability would put him higher than Luck.

2. Dynasty: On Twitter, Chris Wesseling said that he'll have Luck and Griffin ranked 5 and 6 (top of tier 2) behind Rodgers, Brees, Cam, and Stafford and ahead of Brady. He had followers vote between Luck, RGIII, and Brady. Some good discussion about what Brady had left (2 top 3 seasons, 1 top 5, and 1 top 10). Chris has a good track record of going "all in" on a rookie and hitting it, and he's all over RGIII (and Luck too). He has Luck and RGIII as the top 2 rookies this season.

3. Keeper: Can't find any keeper rankings with rookies, but Wesseling has Brady around 23, so I'm guessing he has them in the 20s or 30s overall. My guess on shorter-term keeper rankings for QBs only is that they're between 8-10. There are a number of QBs that will put up top 10 seasons for the next 2-5 seasons, while I expect some growth curve out of these two guys.

One of the best things that Wesseling said was to have conviction about RGIII or Luck's long term career and make a pick. I'm struggling with that one. I've got 1.02 in a contract keeper league with 3-4 year rookie contracts and I'm not sure if I take Luck or RGIII (I expect Richardson to go first). I can see Luck rushing the ball like Rodgers, so the difference may not be as big as you think.

 
Nothing against Griffin, but he's not Cam Newton. Using Cam's success to predict performance of future rookie QBs would be like using Randy Moss's rookie season to predict performance of future rookie WRs. Cam is an exceptional talent and should be viewed accordingly.
This is exactly what I'm saying. I'm a big fan of RG3 yet it doesn't seem like it since the hype is so out of control. From a fantasy perspective, taking a QB early normally isn't worth it because of the bust rate and the normally long development time to get to be a top 5 fantasy QB.
Eating crow here. Griffin is a stud and on pace to surpass Newton's rookie season.
 
Nothing against Griffin, but he's not Cam Newton. Using Cam's success to predict performance of future rookie QBs would be like using Randy Moss's rookie season to predict performance of future rookie WRs. Cam is an exceptional talent and should be viewed accordingly.
This is exactly what I'm saying. I'm a big fan of RG3 yet it doesn't seem like it since the hype is so out of control. From a fantasy perspective, taking a QB early normally isn't worth it because of the bust rate and the normally long development time to get to be a top 5 fantasy QB.
Eating crow here. Griffin is a stud and on pace to surpass Newton's rookie season.
Pass the crow. :banned:
 
I think Griffin is going to take a lot of teams to the fantasy playoffs. Basically, the team that is stacked at RB and WR and probably took a TE early also has a monster QB that they drafted in round 9 or so. I imagine the Griffin owners are way above .500 on average.

 
The guy's awareness of the field during each play, and his accuracy, are completely surprising to me. I had no idea that he'd be this good this soon. Watching him is immense fun. He makes surprising things happen and rarely gives the other team the ball.

 
I think Griffin is going to take a lot of teams to the fantasy playoffs. Basically, the team that is stacked at RB and WR and probably took a TE early also has a monster QB that they drafted in round 9 or so. I imagine the Griffin owners are way above .500 on average.
4-0 :thumbup:
 
He looked like a rookie running quarterback today. He still made some nice throws but panicked a bit when the pressure was applied. He will definitely become a good NFL qb imo

 
I have an offer waiting for me of RG3 for Marshawn Lynch. I need a QB bad and have Rice & Morris too. I was all set to click accept, but now I'm wondering if I should just trade Morris instead and get Roethlisberger.

RG3 has had 2 rough games in a row. 1 is understandable against the Steelers Defense but this one was just plain awful to watch.

 
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A couple of rough games, but he could have had much better numbers versus Pittsburgh had his receivers not dropped so many passes. He's still a stud and a must-start unless you own another stud QB. I wouldn't be too worried.

 
A couple of rough games, but he could have had much better numbers versus Pittsburgh had his receivers not dropped so many passes. He's still a stud and a must-start unless you own another stud QB. I wouldn't be too worried.
That's true about the Pittsburgh game. I forgot about that. His receivers dropped a ton of passes.
 
He was close to a decent day if he hadn't had a rushing TD called back followed by a passing TD. Hopefully they use the bye week to get the offense in order.

 
The league caught up to him already. It was a nice fantasy run though.
They didn't catch up, the team drops quite a few balls and the play calling seems to be out of whack sometimes.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000089459/article/washington-redskins-receivers-not-helping-rg3-with-dropsJust one source, also I know other QBs have to deal with it but I think sometimes the Redskins don't seem to take advantage of RG3's ability as well. I think Fred going down hurt him more than we think. I think the bye week comes at a great time as they now know their offense is struggling and they NEED to change things up to get the ball moving downfield.
 
'Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:
I have an offer waiting for me of RG3 for Marshawn Lynch. I need a QB bad and have Rice & Morris too. I was all set to click accept, but now I'm wondering if I should just trade Morris instead and get Roethlisberger.RG3 has had 2 rough games in a row. 1 is understandable against the Steelers Defense but this one was just plain awful to watch.
keep us updated
 
Poor guy has literally the worst receivers of all time. Cant get open, can't catch the ball. Not a good combo.

 
Guy has to score three times just to get the third TD to count.

Lots of shortsighted thinking in here. His supporting cast needs help but he has shown he can be a machine if he gets on a roll and he will only get better.

 

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