Robert Meacham (1 Viewer)

[trader jake]

For those that are looking to buy/sell:

Last year I selected Robert Meachum at 2.06 (12 team) and just traded him for 2.04 and some free agency cash (enough to sign the best kicker or a #5/6 type WR). Basically, I gave up on him and sold him for a "mulligan pick" this year.

Meachum is a good buy low because he's in a solid passing offense. If he shows anything early I'd probably sell because his head just doesn't seem to be in the game. When Payton didn't give him some playing time late in the season I took that as a huge red flag.

 

[redman]

Desmond Howard was a bad wide receiver for a first round pick, and a bust. He also had no fantasy value. If Robert Meacham approaches that career, he's a pretty bad buy low candidate.

Happy now?

No. As a WR5 in my "including returns" league, he's a tremendous buy low candidate.

Not representative of most leagues at all. In fact, the fact that you are in a league that makes a guy like Desmond Howard valuable says more about your league than it does about Howard.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

Desmond Howard was a bad wide receiver for a first round pick, and a bust. He also had no fantasy value. If Robert Meacham approaches that career, he's a pretty bad buy low candidate.

Happy now?

No. As a WR5 in my "including returns" league, he's a tremendous buy low candidate.

Not representative of most leagues at all. In fact, the fact that you are in a league that makes a guy like Desmond Howard valuable says more about your league than it does about Howard.

While I don't feel the need to get too back-and-forth over this, the fact that you're in a league that doesn't reward picking up Pro Bowler Super Bowl MVPs does say something about our leagues. I agree.

 

[redman]

Desmond Howard was a bad wide receiver for a first round pick, and a bust. He also had no fantasy value. If Robert Meacham approaches that career, he's a pretty bad buy low candidate.

Happy now?

No. As a WR5 in my "including returns" league, he's a tremendous buy low candidate.

Not representative of most leagues at all. In fact, the fact that you are in a league that makes a guy like Desmond Howard valuable says more about your league than it does about Howard.

While I don't feel the need to get too back-and-forth over this, the fact that you're in a league that doesn't reward picking up Pro Bowler Super Bowl MVPs does say something about our leagues. I agree.

Yeah. Lucky for me that I had Larry Brown in all my IDP leagues.

 

[Vicktimized]

I think as a buy low, it's a fine pickup, as long as buy low is what it sounds like --- giving up almost nothing.

Since Meach wasn't on the field last season, it's hard to gauge him. The Saints say good things about him, and his attitude appears to be one that doesn't lend to becoming a washout.

At this point, with Henderson and Moore as his main competitors, I'd feel pretty good about picking him, as he'd be given every opportunity to win that 2nd WR job. Moore could improve and take it, but seems like a career slot guy to me. Henderson won't start -- they gave him the chance to early last year, and he dropped the ball, literally, again and again.

Basically, you're taking a flyer on a young WR that may start in a prolific passing offense, with no prior track record on the field.

 

[PranksterJD]

I think as a buy low, it's a fine pickup, as long as buy low is what it sounds like --- giving up almost nothing.

Since Meach wasn't on the field last season, it's hard to gauge him. The Saints say good things about him, and his attitude appears to be one that doesn't lend to becoming a washout.

You think? While refreshing, I doubt we could find a team that, when asked about their #1 pick the previous year, would respond, "Yeah that guy sucks".I like believing in Meachem. I want him to do well, but I've got a bad feeling. He took an average hit in a preseason game and was basically out for the rest of the year. I know that's not the whole story, but it was the start of the dominoes and didn't sit well with me. He never really came close to challenging for playing time, much less a starting spot, and I really don't think that Peyton keeps him out the entire year to "teach him a lesson". As others have said, the fact that he didn't get any time late in the season was unsettling. Signing Vilma and Gay this offseason has taken some of the heat off of drafting defense, and while I was leaning towards Peyton drafting a new toy before free agency, I'm convinced he'll do it now. I'm not saying the Saints take a receiver, but its not out of the question depending on how Deuce looks.

For me, I think you've got it right. Buy Meachem if he's essentially free, but what you'll have to pay is all over the boards. I was able able to get him off the wire in a small roster league and was happy, but was asked to pay Mario Williams and a 2nd in another.

 

[dollarbill13]

The more negative responses you have on whether a player is a good buy-low candidate means that he probably IS a good buy-low candidate. If everyone thought he was a buy-low candidate, you wouldn't be able to buy-low on him.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

The more negative responses you have on whether a player is a good buy-low candidate means that he probably IS a good buy-low candidate. If everyone thought he was a buy-low candidate, you wouldn't be able to buy-low on him.

 

[PranksterJD]

The more negative responses you have on whether a player is a good buy-low candidate means that he probably IS a good buy-low candidate. If everyone thought he was a buy-low candidate, you wouldn't be able to buy-low on him.

I disagree. The more negative responses you have on a player simply means that you CAN buy him at a low price, not that you SHOULD. I'm not sold that Meachem is one of these, but there are plenty of NFL players that you can pay pennies for because they're simply bad. I could start a thread on David Carr as the ultimate buy low candidate, and I'd get more than a few negative responses. Does that mean I should go buy David Carr?

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

I think as a buy low, it's a fine pickup, as long as buy low is what it sounds like --- giving up almost nothing.

Since Meach wasn't on the field last season, it's hard to gauge him. The Saints say good things about him, and his attitude appears to be one that doesn't lend to becoming a washout.

You think? While refreshing, I doubt we could find a team that, when asked about their #1 pick the previous year, would respond, "Yeah that guy sucks".I like believing in Meachem. I want him to do well, but I've got a bad feeling. He took an average hit in a preseason game and was basically out for the rest of the year. I know that's not the whole story, but it was the start of the dominoes and didn't sit well with me. He never really came close to challenging for playing time, much less a starting spot, and I really don't think that Peyton keeps him out the entire year to "teach him a lesson". As others have said, the fact that he didn't get any time late in the season was unsettling. Signing Vilma and Gay this offseason has taken some of the heat off of drafting defense, and while I was leaning towards Peyton drafting a new toy before free agency, I'm convinced he'll do it now. I'm not saying the Saints take a receiver, but its not out of the question depending on how Deuce looks.

For me, I think you've got it right. Buy Meachem if he's essentially free, but what you'll have to pay is all over the boards. I was able able to get him off the wire in a small roster league and was happy, but was asked to pay Mario Williams and a 2nd in another.

There were reports until mid November that he was still rehabbing his knee, and that was keeping him out of games. Towards the end of the year, the coaching staff really liked what they saw.Meachem could have come in late in the year and gotten thrown to the wolves, but that's not the Bill Parcells way - thus, not the Sean Payton way. I think we'll see a new Meachem this year.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I'm really not interested in him... theres a reason why the Saints are interested in Shock and resigned Henderson. Plus; is D Patten still there?

honestly; if he couldn't beat out Henderson and or Copper for any playing time all last season... he just not good. Sell while u can.

 

[duece2626]

I'm really not interested in him... theres a reason why the Saints resigned Henderson.

1yr, 2M isn't exactly a vote of confidence. More like a backup plan if Meachem doesn't pan out.

 

[Vicktimized]

The Saints don't want to start Henderson. Been there, done that...he's a deep threat to bring in spread formations, and nothing else.

The difference b/t a bad player like Carr and Meachem is that we don't know how good or bad Meachem is. We'll know a lot more this year. If you can get him super late, why not?

Any starting WR in a Sean Payton/Drew Brees offense is going to have serious potential value. They pass too damn much for anything otherwise to be true.

 

[Couch Potato]

I'm really not interested in him... theres a reason why the Saints are interested in Shock and resigned Henderson. Plus; is D Patten still there?honestly; if he couldn't beat out Henderson and or Copper for any playing time all last season... he just not good. Sell while u can.

I can't read any more posts like this in this thread, and I won't open this or any other Meachem thread on this board again this offseason. Clueless guys like you without any facts or knowledge of the situation drive me nuts.Pygmy Marmoset in the post above you has it exactly right.I'll be back late in the season with my "I told you so."

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

The more negative responses you have on whether a player is a good buy-low candidate means that he probably IS a good buy-low candidate. If everyone thought he was a buy-low candidate, you wouldn't be able to buy-low on him.

but with a caveat - it just means you can buy him low. Whether you should is up to your own thoughts on his future.