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Roman Harper vs. Laron Landry (2 Viewers)
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Harper is a nice young prospect with the potential to be a solid player. Landry has the potential to be the best safety in the game. He is an elite athlete.
Basically, the difference is one can be a very good player, and the other has the potential to be a stud.
Basically, the difference is one can be a very good player, and the other has the potential to be a stud.
sholditch
Footballguy
after I read both the profiles that seems to make sense, even though watching them both in college I would say that they were abut equal. Didn't know Harper's injury was an acl tear. That seals the deal. Often the guys who aren't the best physical specimens can turn into uber-studs (see DeMeco Ryans. A lot of people were knocking his size and speed coming into last season).
TheGreatest
Footballguy
Landry was >>>>>> than Harper in college. They were not even close. I like Harper however and think he will be a good SS but Landry, like others have said already, has potetial to be a stud. This really isn't a debate IMO.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I wrote both those profiles, FWIW, in case you're wondering whether you're getting two different viewpoints. I think most of the salient points have been covered, but the bottom line is that Landry is a much better raw talent than Harper, not taking anything away from Harper who should be fine. There's no downside to Landry's scheme or opportunity. If anything, it's as nice as can be expected, while Harper may rotate out for a few snaps each game if the recent notes from New Orleans prove true. The ACL thing isn't a huge deal in my mind as Harper won't need to change direction that often nor require much recovery speed in coverage if he takes the proper angles.All things considered, though, the difference in talent, opportunity and perceived durability make this a pretty clear case for Landry. The difference isn't huge as Tony noted -- one has #1 overall upside, the other could well be a DB1 if things break right.
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
As someone who has seen both extensively, Landry is somewhat overrated. He's a fantastic tackler and blitzer, but his zone coverage and ball skills are lacking for someone with so much hype. Also, he never really improved over the course of his college career: His freshman season was far and away his best year, he struggled big-time as a sophomore, and his junior and senior seasons were solid but not outrageously productive as his draft position would suggest. He should be a very nice NFL player, but comparisons to Ed Reed and the like are WAY off.Harper is obviously still an incomplete picture as an NFL player. He really can't afford to lose a step and if the ACL is not fully recovered then his effectiveness will really suffer.
lawrence phillips
Footballguy
Which is why Landry will play SS, not FS. He'll be in and around the box and covering the occaisonal tight end. I also don't think it's fair to say that his coverage skills are lacking. While he may not excel in that area as he does in other areas, he's still at worst an average coverage safety. The one downside I see in Landry from a fantasy perspective for this year is London Fletcher. Will Fletcher's presence decrease Landry's potential tackle opportunities?Afro Samurai said:
JOBOOZOSO
Footballguy
Landry until you hear different from truth reported above.If Harper is declared every down player in pre-season, i'm going with him. Until that time, take Landry.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
I don't see Bullocks eating into any of Harper's time.
Saints homer here. Harper is the uncontested SS, with Bellamy backing up. Bullocks is fighting off KK for the starting FS spot. Harper is not in a rotation.Word on the street is Bullocks is heading to the bench.
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
I definitely agree with that. Bullocks has been a major disappointment. Soft tackler, no instincts, drops easy interceptions. Everybody makes fun of Fred Thomas for getting burned often last year, but if he'd had some halfway decent help from the FS spot it wouldn't have been an issue.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I'm firmly with the homers here, but at least one beat writer feels there is a chance of a rotation. It's just one line of speculation in a larger piece about the new defensive additions, but it's out there.
Beaumont
Footballguy
I think this is right. I think Bullocks is headed for breather/injury/big nickel (if they play any) duty only ...
Guido
Footballguy
One thing I've learned to expect from Sean Payton is that you never know what to expect. At this time last year it was going to be Horn and Stallworth manning the WR slots. Terrance Copper was still a Cowboy, as was Scott Shanle. Heck, don't be surprised if someone NOT named Henderson lines up opposite Colston at the other WR position.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
SandersDawkinsHarperWhitnerI love Sanders in dynasty leagues...and I'll go out on a limb and say if he could stay healthy that i will not be surprised to see him be the #1 DB some year.
lawrence phillips
Footballguy
Not to curse it, but a Laron Landry signing appears imminent.
"Redskins Notes: The team and first-round draft pick LaRon Landry were making progress toward a contract last night and both sides sensed that a deal could be completed before the first practice today. Once the fourth and eighth overall picks were signed yesterday, the parameters for a deal for Landry, the sixth overall pick, were falling into place. He is excepted to push for a starting safety spot almost immediately. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7072602239.html
"Redskins Notes: The team and first-round draft pick LaRon Landry were making progress toward a contract last night and both sides sensed that a deal could be completed before the first practice today. Once the fourth and eighth overall picks were signed yesterday, the parameters for a deal for Landry, the sixth overall pick, were falling into place. He is excepted to push for a starting safety spot almost immediately. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7072602239.html
sholditch
Footballguy
Awesome. He did that in college a bit too IIRC. If he does this should provide a small bump to his value as a DB, no? Also, if anyone is interested, Landry went in the third round (3.3) of my dynasty draft and I got Roman Harper at 7.1.
