Romo news (1 Viewer)

[Multiple Scores]

In the fbg news it said romo was inviting teammates for workouts. The footballguys view was that if romo doesn't bring the cowboys deep into the playoffs that the days of romo in Dallas could be over.

I found this bizarre. If the cowboys decide to blow up their team I hope romo lands in San Fran.

What is up with this view? I like romo in the top 25% of qbs in NFL terms and also in fantasy terms, dynasty or redraft.

 

[thayman]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

Sure, ship him on over to us. He can throw left-handed and play better than Alex Smith.

 

[cobalt_27]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

 

[Concept Coop]

He is in the top 3 for QB rating since he started playing. If he played for the Steelers he would have two rings and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[thayman]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

 

[cobalt_27]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

 

[Concept Coop]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

I am sorry. Are you talking about Carson Palmer? That is really funny...but 18 days too late.

 

[thayman]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

 

[cobalt_27]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

Well. Unlike Romo, Vick does have a history of behavior that is pretty pathetic (between the Ron Mexico, bongs in the airport, murdering dogs and all) and has to be factored in. But, skill set wise, sure he's a talented runner. But, as a passer he's not even in the same stratosphere. Romo has never had a passer rating under 90; Vick has only twice eclipsed 80.

Romo's never thrown below 60% completion pct; Vick has only once eclipsed 60%.

It's not even worth discussing. Vick's a bad dude and really inconsistent QB...flashy, yes. Highlight reel, sure. But, Romo's a better QB than Vick.

 

[Concept Coop]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

The offensive line got healthy and they started running the ball more.Shows that you speak about things you do not understand.

 

[thayman]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

Well. Unlike Romo, Vick does have a history of behavior that is pretty pathetic (between the Ron Mexico, bongs in the airport, murdering dogs and all) and has to be factored in. But, skill set wise, sure he's a talented runner. But, as a passer he's not even in the same stratosphere. Romo has never had a passer rating under 90; Vick has only twice eclipsed 80.

Romo's never thrown below 60% completion pct; Vick has only once eclipsed 60%.

It's not even worth discussing. Vick's a bad dude and really inconsistent QB...flashy, yes. Highlight reel, sure. But, Romo's a better QB than Vick.

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues. I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

 

[thayman]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

The offensive line got healthy and they started running the ball more.Shows that you speak about things you do not understand.

Ahh so your point is that as soon as The Cowboys gave the ball to Romo less they did better.

 

[Concept Coop]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer may be a bit of a stretch, but I think the Bengals without Palmer are pretty bad, where as the Cowboys without Romo are still a viable team. Romo is on the edge of top 10 for me.The bolded shows your bias.

The offensive line got healthy and they started running the ball more.Shows that you speak about things you do not understand.

Ahh so your point is that as soon as The Cowboys gave the ball to Romo less they did better.

No. When they used a balanced offense and protected the QB, they did better.

 

[cobalt_27]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues. I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

 

[bonesman]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues.

I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

Playoff Wins

 

[cobalt_27]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues.

I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

Playoff Wins

I know you know that defenses and other factors might be involved in team accomplishments.

 

[Concept Coop]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues.

I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

Playoff Wins

Still? In 2011? Huh.

 

[cobalt_27]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues.

I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

Playoff Wins

Still? In 2011? Huh.

Not to mention that the difference between a 2-2 and 1-3 playoff record isn't anything to write home about.

 

[bonesman]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues.

I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

Playoff Wins

I know you know that defenses and other factors might be involved in team accomplishments.

defenses and other factors might be involved in individual accomplishments as well.... besides, it was the Dallas defense that caused Romo to bobble that XP snap against Seattle.

 

[Tau837]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Oh stop. Vick I can understand if you like huge fluctuations in play, sacks, turnovers, and the flashy dog-killer types. But, Palmer? Get serious. This isn't 2006.I'd still take Romo over Ryan.

Palmer?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Romo isn't a top 8 QB.

Sure he is.

I wouldn't put him in front of Manning, Brees, Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Roethlisberger,Vick, or Palmer.He isn't bad, but he is a second tier player.

Palmer? Can I buy some pot from you?

 

[thayman]

We can agree to disagree on Vick. I'm only looking at on field play. Not off field issues. I'm not a huge fan of Passer Rating as a stat to judge QBs by, but if you want to look at it Romo is ranked the 10th QB last year. Behind Josh Freeman, Vince Young, and Michael Vick.

I'm impressed. You picked the one year that Romo broke his collarbone in the 6th game of the season as a comparison. I think the bottom line is that you are easily swayed/wowed by Vick's running ability. Because, I don't care by whatever metric you want to use, Comp%, TD%, YPA, Romo is the better QB, both on and off the field.

I just pulled last year because it was easiest to look at. Vick's rating (since you seem to like that stat) last year is higher than Romo's has ever been. Also I'm not swayed by Vick's running ability but I think you are overlooking it completely it is a dimension to his game that you need to consider. I think the problem is you like most Cowboy fans over value him. And let me be clear I don't think Romo is bad all he is certainly in the top group of QBs, he just isn't a top tier guy.

 

[moderated]

Vick is far better then romo if a team values wins. How can someone ignore his running like it doesn't matter, that is ridiculous.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

are you guys proud of what you have done here

 

[Cassius]

Romo is a well above average QB in a league where 30-40% of teams would kill for an average QB. Speculating that DAL will cut ties with him if they won't make it far into the playoffs this year is probably a little irresponsible, especially considering the lameass head coach they kept around until last year.

Also Romo may not be in the "top" tier of QB's in the league, but he is a bajillion times better than Carson Palmer.

 

[cobalt_27]

Vick is far better then romo if a team values wins. How can someone ignore his running like it doesn't matter, that is ridiculous.

I can understand the simplicity here. It is much easier to think of simple concept than to look at the big picture. no doubt Vick is a fine runner, though.

 

[daveR]

My $.02

tier 1: Manning, Brady

tier 2: Rodgers, Brees, Rivers

tier 3: ROMO, Ben, Ryan, maybe Flacco

tier 4: the other guys

 

[Ack88]

By a simple statistical comparison, Romo is a top 8-10 QB, however, he lacks two big components (my apologies to Michael Felger)...he is niether clutch nor late, meaning he plays his worst when the games matter most.

I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan and I will tell you without reservation...the Cowboys will NEVER win a title with Romo at the healm.

He's not a bad guy. I don't have any irrational hate or jealousy towards him. Hey, good for him if he can date a bevy of hotties, but he simply likes football. In order to be a championship QB, you have to love football, and that's just not the way he's wired...too relaxed.