Ronnie Brown: This Year's Kevin Jones? (or Kevan Barlow)? (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

these are the numbers of the #7 RB for the past 5 seasons:

2005: 1548 combined yards and 12 TDs (Rudi Johnson)

2004: 1738 combined yards and 13 TDs (Corey Dillon)

2003: 2157 combined yards and 8 TDs (Deuce McAllister)

2002: 1983 combined yards and 11 TDs (Tiki Barber)

2001: 1603 combined yards and 10 TDs (LaDainaian Tomlinson)

 

[Real Man of Genius]

Sorry, he had 239. I don't think that many people are questioning whether or not he can handle 50 more touches. I'm sure he can but his numbers are not going to be that great. 1500 yds and 8-10 TDs is not great for a 7th pick.

I couldn't dissagree more. I'll take 1500/10 out of my 7th overall pick all day everyday.

Everyone's average stats at the end of the season are worse than most pre-season projections because the pre-season projections usually don't include injury risks into them.1500/8-10 as a preseason projection is not good for the 7th pick. I would be dissapointed to be stuck with him but I probably wouldn't pass on Ronnie Brown at 1.12

Don't take him then, hater. But don't come crying here at the end of the season.

 

[Gr00vus]

This I can post:

Last year's #7 RB overall

7 Johnson,Rudi CIN 16 ... 1458 ... 12 ... 90 ... 0 ... 226.8So maybe 1500/10 combined is a tad low, but it's not way off, especially if you tend towards conservative projections (as I do).Can I ask, what do you project/excpect for RB7?

 

[jurb26]

This I can post:Last year's #7 RB overall

7 Johnson,Rudi		  CIN 16 ... 1458 ...  12   ...  90 ...  0 ... 226.8

So maybe 1500/10 combined is a tad low, but it's not way off, especially if you tend towards conservative projections (as I do).Can I ask, what do you project/excpect for RB7?

If your RB got you 1500/10 and was the 7th overall pick. It means that not only did he fair very well (more than likely top 10) but more importantly that he was not a bust. As I said, I'll take 1500/10 form my 1st round pick, 7th overall, all day every day.

 

[Gr00vus]

these are the numbers of the #7 RB for the past 5 seasons:2005: 1548 combined yards and 12 TDs (Rudi Johnson)2004: 1738 combined yards and 13 TDs (Corey Dillon)2003: 2157 combined yards and 8 TDs (Deuce McAllister)2002: 1983 combined yards and 11 TDs (Tiki Barber)2001: 1603 combined yards and 10 TDs (LaDainaian Tomlinson)

That averages out to 1805.80 yards and 10.80 tds.As I said before 1500/10 is a bit low, but it's not unreasonable.In Brown's case I think he'll do better than that anyway.

 

[AcerFC]

I traded from 10 to 6 just so I could land Brown. He will be huge this year

 

[PilesOfSand]

This I can post:Last year's #7 RB overall

7 Johnson,Rudi		  CIN 16 ... 1458 ...  12   ...  90 ...  0 ... 226.8

So maybe 1500/10 combined is a tad low, but it's not way off, especially if you tend towards conservative projections (as I do).Can I ask, what do you project/excpect for RB7?

Well I think Rudi Johnson will be RB7 and it will probably be similar to last year 1550/12 After that I think Lamont Jordan and Brian Westbrook if ppr might fall in. And Edge, Caddy, and Brown would probably be the next set of RBs but I personally don't want to take any of them.

 

[Real Man of Genius]

This I can post:Last year's #7 RB overall

7 Johnson,Rudi		  CIN 16 ... 1458 ...  12   ...  90 ...  0 ... 226.8

So maybe 1500/10 combined is a tad low, but it's not way off, especially if you tend towards conservative projections (as I do).Can I ask, what do you project/excpect for RB7?

Well I think Rudi Johnson will be RB7 and it will probably be similar to last year 1550/12 After that I think Lamont Jordan and Brian Westbrook if ppr might fall in. And Edge, Caddy, and Brown would probably be the next set of RBs but I personally don't want to take any of them.

Who are your RB5 and 6? Sjax and ???

 

[Tau837]

I'd take Rudi over Brown (in fact I did in one draft) in non-ppr leagues. Rudi's got the more extensive track record, and he's on the better offense. If it's a PPR league it's an even tougher choice though as I think Brown will have an appreciable edge there.

On Saturday, I faced exactly this choice in a 14 team league with typical FBG scoring (no PPR). I thought it was very close, and took Brown because his playoff schedule looks better. I think my team will make the playoffs, and here are their playoff schedules:Rudi: Oak, @Ind, @DenBrown: NE, @Buf, NYJ

 

[SteelerMurf]

Kevin Jones didn't have half the defense Ronnie does. That alone will almost guarantee that Ronnie doesn't pull a KJ or Barlow for that matter. Barlow also had a young stud in the works to take carries away. Barlow had a horrible QB situation with an even worse WR situation. Detroit basically quit last year.

Ronnie ....easy schedule, no backup, stud defense, stud QB, stud TE, stud WR.

I like Ronnie's potential.

 

[chedha]

I was shocked he fell to me at number 11 in a 12 team redraft no ppr. Needless to say, my draft was off to a great start...

 

[doomsdaydoc]

Do not worry about Ronnie Brown. He is a very good back and is in a good situation. Barlow and Jones had issues because there was no viable passing attack on their team. Brown is going to be well coached and the team has good receivers and a good QB as well as a good defense that will keep them in games. There will be a great opportunity for Brown to excel and I think that he will. Do not worry about him being a failure this season. IT is just not going to happen. HAve faith.

 

[menobrown]

In the yourtube highlight video he sure seems to be content running out of bounds a little to much for my taste.

 

[Da Guru]

I have a mid round pick on one of my leagues and have to decide on a RB.

I have watched Ronnie Brown all pre-season. I know he has all the physical tools, but he does not seem like a natural runner. Caddy Williams see like a natural runner. Brown seem to run up the backs of his blockers and goes down too easy at times for a guy his size.

Agree..disagree?

 

[laughinboy_2000]

I have a mid round pick on one of my leagues and have to decide on a RB. I have watched Ronnie Brown all pre-season. I know he has all the physical tools, but he does not seem like a natural runner. Caddy Williams see like a natural runner. Brown seem to run up the backs of his blockers and goes down too easy at times for a guy his size.Agree..disagree?

100 % Disagree. Ronnie Brown has a better QB. Ronnie Brown has a better schedule. Ronnie Brown is more durable. Ronnie Brown is a better receiver. Ronnie Brown will not be pulled at the goal line, whereas Willaims may have Alstott and Pittman try to keep him fresh..Spend your pick on Ronnie Brown. Nuff said...

 

[FatRader]

Spend your pick on Ronnie Brown. Nuff said...

Yup. And just to add one more: Ronnie Brown runs behind a line coached by Hudson Houck

 

[RBM]

I have a mid round pick on one of my leagues and have to decide on a RB. I have watched Ronnie Brown all pre-season. I know he has all the physical tools, but he does not seem like a natural runner. Caddy Williams see like a natural runner. Brown seem to run up the backs of his blockers and goes down too easy at times for a guy his size.Agree..disagree?

100 % Disagree. Ronnie Brown has a better QB. Ronnie Brown has a better schedule. Ronnie Brown is more durable. Ronnie Brown is a better receiver. Ronnie Brown will not be pulled at the goal line, whereas Willaims may have Alstott and Pittman try to keep him fresh..Spend your pick on Ronnie Brown. Nuff said...

I think he was talking about his actual play on the field, not his situation

 

[intrinsic]

search the thread where someone linked the Ronnie Brown youtube highlight real

it impressed the hell out of me

 

[Da Guru]

I have a mid round pick on one of my leagues and have to decide on a RB. I have watched Ronnie Brown all pre-season. I know he has all the physical tools, but he does not seem like a natural runner. Caddy Williams see like a natural runner. Brown seem to run up the backs of his blockers and goes down too easy at times for a guy his size.Agree..disagree?

100 % Disagree. Ronnie Brown has a better QB. Ronnie Brown has a better schedule. Ronnie Brown is more durable. Ronnie Brown is a better receiver. Ronnie Brown will not be pulled at the goal line, whereas Willaims may have Alstott and Pittman try to keep him fresh..Spend your pick on Ronnie Brown. Nuff said...

I think he was talking about his actual play on the field, not his situation

I am not comparing Brown and Caddy..only their running styles. Caddy seems more natural. Brown has all the tools but does not seem to have a runners instincts.

 

[incubus0]

it impressed the hell out of me

Most impressive

 

[intrinsic]

it impressed the hell out of me

Most impressive

thats the one!

 

[dgreen]

In the yourtube highlight video he sure seems to be content running out of bounds a little to much for my taste.

Once is too much? After a 50-yard run when he was probably gassed and I think he hurt something at the end? Is that what you are referring to?

 

[CA_7]

In the yourtube highlight video he sure seems to be content running out of bounds a little to much for my taste.

Guess you wouldn't be impressed with SA highlights either

 

[tommyGunZ]

In both of my long time leagues (1 ppr, 1 non ppr), I had the 4th pick and took Ronnie in both.

The combination of talent, opportunity, youth, health, situation, and schedule makes him the most bust proof of all the 2nd tier RBs, IMO.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Ronnie is an elite natural talent. His field vision was not where it needed to be last year, but you can bet that will improve with good coaching and more experience.

I see his upside being right below a standard LT season. He's that good of a power runner and receiver out of the backfield.

 

[Pied Piper]

Sorry, he had 239. I don't think that many people are questioning whether or not he can handle 50 more touches. I'm sure he can but his numbers are not going to be that great. 1500 yds and 8-10 TDs is not great for a 7th pick.

I couldn't dissagree more. I'll take 1500/10 out of my 7th overall pick all day everyday.

No doubt...what the hell is going on here??