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Ronnie Brown (1 Viewer)

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He played two games against among the two worst d's in the league 200 total yards, no TDs. Is it all his fault, certainly not. But even if it is circumstantial, this guy is starting to smell and I have significant worries he will not perform to ADP.

Who's with me?

 
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People had him way overvalued. I don't think anyone realized how bad this Dolphins team (Culpepper) is.

 
He's averaging around 100 yards per game and has 2 TDs in 4 games. I'd hardly consider that to be a 'bust'.

 
Well, I must say that out of ALL my predictions this year, the Miami Dolphins were the biggest "bust" for me so far. I picked them to be HUGE this year, and Culpepper, Brown, Chambers, and McMichael have all be horrible for me. Brown has had a few bright spots, but the rest...... :yucky:

 
he's 7th in scoring in my ppr league. Lowest he scored is 12 and 18...but yea culpepper is hurting him from being better.

 
So far Ronnie Brown 2006 is equivalent to Willis McGahee 2005... in terms of rushing potential and the team around him. Ronnie catches more passes because of the QB and team that bumps him up while McGahee was not a focal point in the passing game. In terms of real football this is how I am seeing it for now.

 
He's managing to put up some fantasy points, but barely. I'm seriously considering trading him straight up for L. Maroney. Haven't pulled the trigger on this yet, because I don't know if it's a bad trade to make or if I'm ahead of the curve. Rudi Johnson is my other RB in a two RB start league.

 
He's putting up decent numbers. Nothing spectacular but solid nonetheless. Hopefully the dolphins turn things around though (ie Culpepper and Mularky's play calling).

 
The guy hasn't scored under double digits yet this year...let's cut him some slack.
I agree, he is not a bust.... yet. Things look scary in MIa right now though. I drafted Brown in only 1 league this year nad got him at pick 9. I have to say, it's concerning that the Mia O is struggling as badly as it has vs some weak teams. Really, his rec yds are saving him right now.
 
The guy hasn't scored under double digits yet this year...let's cut him some slack.
I agree, he is not a bust.... yet. Things look scary in MIa right now though. I drafted Brown in only 1 league this year nad got him at pick 9. I have to say, it's concerning that the Mia O is struggling as badly as it has vs some weak teams. Really, his rec yds are saving him right now.
:goodposting: His is the #10 RB in my .5 PPR league right now and might go up to 9 with this weeks stats.

 
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In my ppr league, he has the following points per week.

21,18,12,18.

Doesn't lool spectacular, but I think he will average 18 pts or so a week. Which puts him at nearly 300 points for the year, which would be good enough for 6th or 7th best RB (using the last few years of data).

So, you may not see any 150yd games, or 3 TD games...but you will see alot of 130 total tard games, with 4 or 5 receptions.

I am happy with him.

 
Idiots -- he's in the top 10 of all the leagues I'm involved in. Owner's expectations are becoming ridiculous.

 
In no PPR leagues he is 7th but will probably be out ot the top 10 after the scores are updated. In my no PPR leagues he is getting me killed. He has had one game where he scored 2 GL TDs and besides that NOTHING for my second round pick.

 
Idiots -- he's in the top 10 of all the leagues I'm involved in. Owner's expectations are becoming ridiculous.
I agree, after Alexander and LJ last year, people are expecting 1 player to ride them to the championship..okay he hasn't set the world on fire but to name him a bust is ridiculous...
 
An earlier post nailed it, the OL is putrid.

Culpepper is not playing as badly as others would lead you to believe. The problem is the rush is all over him, the Dolphins can't stretch the field. Teams can get pressure on a QB on almost every play without blitzing.

 
His numbers have been decent, and he hasn't lost me many games. But other than week one, he surely hasn't won me much. His FPs are good, but his performance on the field is disconcerting. Terrible offense and 3.5 YPC are a worry. Receiving yards are good, but can you rely on those? Like I said in the beginning, he just had his two easiest games of the year and ended up with 200 total yards and 0 Tds, and that doesn't worry anyone. I know 100 total yards per game is good, but against the two worst defenses in the league, its an issue if you cant get in the end zone once, especially when you see what Betts and Portis did in week 3 against the Texans and what Julius Jones did against the Titans in week 4. I guess i'm more concerned about the team than anything else, they are headed for a tough road, and the 8 TDs many expected are a long way off.

 
His numbers have been decent, and he hasn't lost me many games. But other than week one, he surely hasn't won me much. His FPs are good, but his performance on the field is disconcerting. Terrible offense and 3.5 YPC are a worry. Receiving yards are good, but can you rely on those? Like I said in the beginning, he just had his two easiest games of the year and ended up with 200 total yards and 0 Tds, and that doesn't worry anyone. I know 100 total yards per game is good, but against the two worst defenses in the league, its an issue if you cant get in the end zone once, especially when you see what Betts and Portis did in week 3 against the Texans and what Julius Jones did against the Titans in week 4. I guess i'm more concerned about the team than anything else, they are headed for a tough road, and the 8 TDs many expected are a long way off.
I understand your worries, and you won't find a bigger Ronnie Brown hater on this board than myself, but you should honestly take the games versus the Titans and Texans as good signs.Ronnie is a much better receiver than he is a running back. As a back he's indecisive, stuck in between power and finesse, braces for impact, never falls forward, etc. But as a receiver, he's explosive out of the backfield. Something about the different way that the ball gets to him.The point of this being, that the Dolphins barely beat (and should have lost to) the Titans, and did lose to the Texans should show you that this team is really a bottom feeder, and that likely will mean a) more garbage time against real teams, and b) more passing in the 2nd half, which plays to his strengths.Yes, a 3.5ypc is dismal, and yes it is largely his fault (although the left side of the line is horrible), but more passing attempts per game means more receiving opportunities for RB, which means more games where you don't care that he can't break 50 rushing yards and the endzone line.
 
He's managing to put up some fantasy points, but barely. I'm seriously considering trading him straight up for L. Maroney. Haven't pulled the trigger on this yet, because I don't know if it's a bad trade to make or if I'm ahead of the curve. Rudi Johnson is my other RB in a two RB start league.
This would really be funny. I wish people offered me trades like this......
 
He's averaging around 100 yards per game and has 2 TDs in 4 games. I'd hardly consider that to be a 'bust'.
:goodposting: Plus, he only had 12 carries yesterday, 15 vs. Buffalo ..they haven't been running the ball effectively so far..the O-line and Cpepp are a big reason why Brown is off to a slow start..
 
Culpepper can't sustain a drive if his life depended on it. IMO, that is what is really hurting Ronnie, even thought he is still doing decent.

 
His numbers have been decent, and he hasn't lost me many games. But other than week one, he surely hasn't won me much. His FPs are good, but his performance on the field is disconcerting. Terrible offense and 3.5 YPC are a worry. Receiving yards are good, but can you rely on those? Like I said in the beginning, he just had his two easiest games of the year and ended up with 200 total yards and 0 Tds, and that doesn't worry anyone. I know 100 total yards per game is good, but against the two worst defenses in the league, its an issue if you cant get in the end zone once, especially when you see what Betts and Portis did in week 3 against the Texans and what Julius Jones did against the Titans in week 4. I guess i'm more concerned about the team than anything else, they are headed for a tough road, and the 8 TDs many expected are a long way off.
I understand your worries, and you won't find a bigger Ronnie Brown hater on this board than myself, but you should honestly take the games versus the Titans and Texans as good signs.Ronnie is a much better receiver than he is a running back. As a back he's indecisive, stuck in between power and finesse, braces for impact, never falls forward, etc. But as a receiver, he's explosive out of the backfield. Something about the different way that the ball gets to him.

The point of this being, that the Dolphins barely beat (and should have lost to) the Titans, and did lose to the Texans should show you that this team is really a bottom feeder, and that likely will mean a) more garbage time against real teams, and b) more passing in the 2nd half, which plays to his strengths.

Yes, a 3.5ypc is dismal, and yes it is largely his fault (although the left side of the line is horrible), but more passing attempts per game means more receiving opportunities for RB, which means more games where you don't care that he can't break 50 rushing yards and the endzone line.
No it's not. Lamont Jordan averaged 3.8 last year.

Tomlinson averaged 3.9 two years ago, is averaging 3.9 this year.

Portis averaged 3.8 two years ago.

3.5 isnt great. But it's far from dismal. If you want dismal.

Caddilac Williams is averaging 2.5 ypc this year.

 
I mentioned where he stands as far as scoring in my league goes, but I should have also mentioned that I understand where the feeling of bust label comes from.

All the members that mentioned the terrible line play are correct IMO, and it doesn't look like it will get much better. That said, I think Brown still is the focal point of the offense and will continue to produce fantasy numbers.

 
Culpepper can't sustain a drive if his life depended on it. IMO, that is what is really hurting Ronnie, even thought he is still doing decent.
:goodposting: Most of their drives are like this,1st and 10 - R.Brown up th middle for 3 yards.2nd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________3rd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________Punt
 
Culpepper can't sustain a drive if his life depended on it. IMO, that is what is really hurting Ronnie, even thought he is still doing decent.
:goodposting: Most of their drives are like this,1st and 10 - R.Brown up th middle for 3 yards.2nd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________3rd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________Punt
He usually gets sacked at least once per drive as well. Sometimes the fault of the line, but also sometimes due to the fact he likes to sit back there for 15 seconds trying to find somebody to throw to and then magically gets tackled.
 
Ronnie is a much better receiver than he is a running back. As a back he's indecisive, stuck in between power and finesse, braces for impact, never falls forward, etc.
You have obviously not watched the Dolphins play this year. If you have you are letting your bias taint what you see. Most times Saban has him trying to bang between the tackles, where no hole exists. This results in a zero or one yard gain. But every time I have seen him run and there was opportunity he has not come down at first contact. It takes at least two to bring him down and he always falls forward.3.5 ypc while his line is awful is actually pretty encouraging, it will only get better. And in a performance league he has put up enough points to keep a team compettitive.

I have said it before, you don't lose the season in the first round. If you are losing your whole draft is to blame.

 
I drafted Brown at 1.7 and I'm not in a PPR league.. believe me when I say that he is rapidly approaching BUST status if he's not there yet.

And I would happily trade Brown for Maroney but I'm in Boston and I know I'll get rejected.

I was as big a R.B. pusher as anyone in the preseason, but after their bye in Week 8 his schedule gets much tougher, and this is a guy who couldn't put it in the end zone against BUF, TEN or HOU. Don't trade him now because his value is low, but if he puts up a big game against the Jets or the Packers in weeks 6-7, pull the trigger.

Mr. D

 
Think this may have more to do with lousy coaching than Brown's play whose ypc was good and had a nice amount of rec yards. I think the blame should go to the coaching here.

 
The guy hasn't scored under double digits yet this year...let's cut him some slack.
I agree, he is not a bust.... yet. Things look scary in MIa right now though. I drafted Brown in only 1 league this year nad got him at pick 9. I have to say, it's concerning that the Mia O is struggling as badly as it has vs some weak teams. Really, his rec yds are saving him right now.
Ronnie is the only bright spot on the entire Dolphin team. the guy catches the ball great, pass protects better than most of the linemen and has run with great power and some finesse as well. He doesn't cut at full speed like the best , but he has more power than any of the guys who can cut at full speed. He has been excellent, yes excellent. The team around him has been putrid and some of the coaching has been weak as well.If the Ol was doing their job people would be talking about how great he is. So far he has been better as a regular NFL guy rather than a fantasy guy, but in PPR leagues he is doing very well.
 
Ronnie is a much better receiver than he is a running back. As a back he's indecisive, stuck in between power and finesse, braces for impact, never falls forward, etc.
You have obviously not watched the Dolphins play this year. If you have you are letting your bias taint what you see. Most times Saban has him trying to bang between the tackles, where no hole exists. This results in a zero or one yard gain. But every time I have seen him run and there was opportunity he has not come down at first contact. It takes at least two to bring him down and he always falls forward.3.5 ypc while his line is awful is actually pretty encouraging, it will only get better. And in a performance league he has put up enough points to keep a team compettitive.

I have said it before, you don't lose the season in the first round. If you are losing your whole draft is to blame.
Agreed. To say he never falls forward is about as ignorant as you can be. The one thing that has been constant is his ability to move forward a yard or 4 and do so almost every single time. The comment made in the orginal post is obviously from someone who hasn't watched the Dolphin games.
 
Don't say anything negative about R.Brown on these message boards. People will jump all over you. He is the perfect running back.

 
Culpepper can't sustain a drive if his life depended on it. IMO, that is what is really hurting Ronnie, even thought he is still doing decent.
:goodposting: Most of their drives are like this,1st and 10 - R.Brown up th middle for 3 yards.2nd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________3rd and 7 - D.Culpepper incomplete to _____________Punt
When the Dolphins go from the hurry up they have been very successful. They need to come out and run the hurry up. Just a comment that C-Pep has completed over 60% of his passes so the above should show a complete short of the 1st down.
 
Ronnie Brown was, in redrafts, probably selected anywere from 1.05 - 1.12. That is a big range but not the biggest. In non-PPR Ronnie Brown is currently the 10th rated RB and that number does not appear to be moving with MNF still to be played.

Other notables who were high 1st round picks that are not in the top 10 RB would be... Edgerin James, Tiki Barber (3 weeks), Shaun Alexander.

Some notables who were not drafted in the 1st round are... Frank Gore, Kevin Jones, Laurence Maroney. These are all players that could have been drafted in the 2nd round to couple with Ronnie Brown.

In PPR leagues currently Ronnie Brown is 7th. Right about where he was drafted in terms of running back potential. Again, those players mentioned above were also draftable by those same Brown owners and rank even higher. Draft your RB2's better next time for those who are down on Brown so far.

We need a thread about Shaun Alexander being a bust, or Edgerin James being a bust now dont we?

 
Don't say anything negative about R.Brown on these message boards. People will jump all over you. He is the perfect running back.
Say whatever you want, but back it up with facts, not ignorant statements.
:lmao: And it starts. His rushing stats are terrible right now. Probably don't want to go there.
His overall stats rank him #7 and #10 respectively though. Just about where he was drafted. What say ye about that?
 
He might not be a bust so far in FF because he scored two easy TD`s in the first game ( Even if he ran for 30 yds ) but after another 6 or 7 games without a TD then he s will be considered a bust even in FF.

He has been a bust for the Dolphins so far , i am sure that if Ricky had been smart and not get suspended Brown would be riding the pine .

 
Don't say anything negative about R.Brown on these message boards. People will jump all over you. He is the perfect running back.
Say whatever you want, but back it up with facts, not ignorant statements.
:lmao: And it starts. His rushing stats are terrible right now. Probably don't want to go there.
He is ranked #6 right now in my NON PPR performance league.
He's #12 in PPG in my non PPR league. Meh.
 
So far, and into the future, he is less a bust than Edge and Tiki, and MUCH MUCH less a bust than Cadillac or Lamont - and he is on pace for a 1550 total yardage, 8 TD season - with 60+ catches (for you PPR guys, that's like an extra 10 TDs)

Definitely not a bust.

But, I hope Brown's owners feel this way - I may go ahead and target him as a draft trade prospect. The team could NOT look worse or give him less help and he is STILL putting up 10 FP's a game - and a LOT more in PPR Leagues.

 
Don't say anything negative about R.Brown on these message boards. People will jump all over you. He is the perfect running back.
Say whatever you want, but back it up with facts, not ignorant statements.
:lmao: And it starts. His rushing stats are terrible right now. Probably don't want to go there.
He is ranked #6 right now in my NON PPR performance league.
He's #12 in PPG in my non PPR league. Meh.
Synthesizer has a vendetta - #12 back in a non-PPR league is, by definition, not a fantasy "bust" You have a RB1. The "worst" RB1, but an RB1. By DEFINITION, Ronnie Brown is not a bust for you.
 
why is Brown getting ripped in here when his crappy coach only gives him the ball 12 times against one of the worst defensive teams in the league? That's Brown's fault? 12 for 50 rush with another 60 rec yards and this is a bust?

The only bust here is their coach who can't seem to grasp simple football 101. You play against a terrible rushing defense then you may want to rush the ball from your premiere rb more than 12 times in a game.

 
He might not be a bust so far in FF because he scored two easy TD`s in the first game ( Even if he ran for 30 yds ) but after another 6 or 7 games without a TD then he s will be considered a bust even in FF.
I agree with you here.
He has been a bust for the Dolphins so far , i am sure that if Ricky had been smart and not get suspended Brown would be riding the pine .
:rolleyes: :no: Ricky would not fare much better. The Oline is horrible. It isn't giving Culpepper enough time for plays to develop downfield, which means the defense can key on the run. As has been noted, when in their "hurry up" offence things have happened. They drove 80 yards twice at the end of yesterdays game with every snap coming in a shotgun formation. But as of now the OLine can not maintain a pocket for Daunte, and Daunte is clearly not helping the issue. He isn't 100% yet. Aside from week one against Pittsburg Ronnie has totaled 100 combined yards every week. He hasn't found the endzone but he is currently the 6th ranked RB in my league. Where is he in yours?
 
He might not be a bust so far in FF because he scored two easy TD`s in the first game ( Even if he ran for 30 yds ) but after another 6 or 7 games without a TD then he s will be considered a bust even in FF.He has been a bust for the Dolphins so far , i am sure that if Ricky had been smart and not get suspended Brown would be riding the pine .
I disagree with all of this - just because the Dolphins are a bad team; just because they have pinned their hopes on CPep and thus lowered the contributions Brown (or anyone else) can make as the RB does not make Brown a bust either in FF terms or in the NFL. If this guy was on half a dozen other NFL teams this year he would be at the top of the RB scoring instead of 7th or 10th or 12th or wherever he is in your scoring system.
 

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