Rookie Impact RBs (1 Viewer)

[loqutis]

For those interested TBL2 puts together a Fantasy football podcast every week for their league This past week we broke down the rookie RB's.

TBL2 Rookie Impact RBs

In the weeks that follow we'll break down all of the skill positions. Including IDP.

Most of the time the podcasts are specific to activity within the league but I think they Rookie Impact Podcasts are generic enough to be considered useful to the general Fantasy Football public

The Blitz

 

[switz]

I like McFadden, doubt he holds out, but also don't think he's #1 on the board.

Agree on Jones. He will be used perfectly I think.

Disagree on DA getting the coaches loyalty. He's never had the coaches on his side, no reason to think he will this year. Stewart is the best guy to draft from an FF perspective this year.

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Forte IS mediocre, yes!!!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

 

[switz]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

how many teams in need of RBs passed on him?I don't think he stinks, he was #1 on my list before the draft. But why did teams pass on him? Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, Carolina, all needed RBs, opted for a different one OR passed altogether on him.I just wonder why - he's just not my #1 RB as the guys on the mp3 said - which is what my "overrated" comment was in respect to. He's overrated at #1 in a draft at this point.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

See: Steven Jackson, Rams

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

how many teams in need of RBs passed on him?I don't think he stinks, he was #1 on my list before the draft. But why did teams pass on him? Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, Carolina, all needed RBs, opted for a different one OR passed altogether on him.I just wonder why - he's just not my #1 RB as the guys on the mp3 said - which is what my "overrated" comment was in respect to. He's overrated at #1 in a draft at this point.

Let's see. Chicago, Detroit, and Arizona passed on him. What do all three franchises have generally in common?...

 

[JPeso]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

how many teams in need of RBs passed on him?I don't think he stinks, he was #1 on my list before the draft. But why did teams pass on him? Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, Carolina, all needed RBs, opted for a different one OR passed altogether on him.I just wonder why - he's just not my #1 RB as the guys on the mp3 said - which is what my "overrated" comment was in respect to. He's overrated at #1 in a draft at this point.

They decided to address the position later in a deep draft, and get bigger needs. Adding a star RB doesn't make you a contender if you don't have other pieces. You might say, "Well, Minnesota almost got to the playoffs," and I would answer with, "Yes, but Minnesota had a very good offensive line in place." Can't run behind a crap offensive line.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

how many teams in need of RBs passed on him?I don't think he stinks, he was #1 on my list before the draft. But why did teams pass on him? Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, Carolina, all needed RBs, opted for a different one OR passed altogether on him.I just wonder why - he's just not my #1 RB as the guys on the mp3 said - which is what my "overrated" comment was in respect to. He's overrated at #1 in a draft at this point.

the top 3 are close enough that I cant say any is overrated as the #1 pick in a rookie draft.as for the other teams - i heard on from a good source that chicago had forte #1 on their RB board. Detroit obviously liked Kevin Smith, and Arizona is not as worried about Edge falling off a cliff as we thought. Carolina taking Stewart over Mendenhall is totally reasonable. The only one that left me was Dallas, but Im a Steeler fan, so I wont complain. Tomlin has already said the Steelers never contemplated Mendenhall being there, that should show you how highly they regarded him.I dont think any of this = "NFL does not think much of him".

 

[switz]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

Sliding to the 20s is no badge of dishonor. Very good RB prospects often slide to the 20s.

how many teams in need of RBs passed on him?I don't think he stinks, he was #1 on my list before the draft. But why did teams pass on him? Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, Carolina, all needed RBs, opted for a different one OR passed altogether on him.I just wonder why - he's just not my #1 RB as the guys on the mp3 said - which is what my "overrated" comment was in respect to. He's overrated at #1 in a draft at this point.

the top 3 are close enough that I cant say any is overrated as the #1 pick in a rookie draft.

McFadden, Stewart, and Jones?

I dont think any of this = "NFL does not think much of him".

Not as much of him as we all thought they did. A lot of prognosticators had him going before Stewart. And teams after Stewart was grabbed that needed RBs also passed on him. Again, I don't think he's a bad RB, but to think he's the #1 pick is overrating him IMO.Why do I bother posting

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I dont think any of this = "NFL does not think much of him".

Not as much of him as we all thought they did. A lot of prognosticators had him going before Stewart. And teams after Stewart was grabbed that needed RBs also passed on him.

Perhaps they needed another position more?

Again, I don't think he's a bad RB, but to think he's the #1 pick is overrating him IMO.Why do I bother posting

That he went to a team later in the draft means that he went to a better team. Why is that a bad thing for a player?

 

[teamroc]

Not as much of him as we all thought they did. A lot of prognosticators had him going before Stewart. And teams after Stewart was grabbed that needed RBs also passed on him. Again, I don't think he's a bad RB, but to think he's the #1 pick is overrating him IMO.Why do I bother posting

The 2nd and 3rd best RBs sliding around a little is quite normal. People don't always get drafted in the order they were ranked, that doesn't mean the rankings were wrong. You thought Mendendall would go before Stewart, he didn't, so it rocked your world.You're probably overracting. Which probably goes without saying on a FF forum.Stewart was a better fit for Dwill. The Colts took Edge before Ricky. There's the "best RB" and then there's the "best fit". And no he didn't slide. He went about where most people expected him to go, in the early 20s. It's not a slide unless you drop 30-40 picks. 8 picks? Lets get realistic.

 

[J-Rock]

Not as much of him as we all thought they did. A lot of prognosticators had him going before Stewart. And teams after Stewart was grabbed that needed RBs also passed on him. Again, I don't think he's a bad RB, but to think he's the #1 pick is overrating him IMO.Why do I bother posting

The 2nd and 3rd best RBs sliding around a little is quite normal. People don't always get drafted in the order they were ranked, that doesn't mean the rankings were wrong. You thought Mendendall would go before Stewart, he didn't, so it rocked your world.You're probably overracting. Which probably goes without saying on a FF forum.Stewart was a better fit for Dwill. The Colts took Edge before Ricky. There's the "best RB" and then there's the "best fit". And no he didn't slide. He went about where most people expected him to go, in the early 20s. It's not a slide unless you drop 30-40 picks. 8 picks? Lets get realistic.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I like McFadden, doubt he holds out, but also don't think he's #1 on the board.Agree on Jones. He will be used perfectly I think.Disagree on DA getting the coaches loyalty. He's never had the coaches on his side, no reason to think he will this year. Stewart is the best guy to draft from an FF perspective this year.Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.Forte IS mediocre, yes!!!

Mendenhall will win ORY, bank on it.

 

[yinzer]

Hah, I think its funny how this Impact RB post turned into a Mendenhall post. Mostly funny bc Switz think's he's overrated, and he seems like the only person

As soon as I saw this dude totally break my PSU D last yr (not that it was great), the talent seemed apparent immediately to me. Power, speed, quickness, deceptive, can catch. Not to sound like a draft scout, but he's got it all.

Ill admit, he was my favorite player going into the draft (see avatar), but I never thought he'd land to tha Stillers. And outside of Jones, who I dont think will post as good of numbers anyway, Mendenhall definitely landed in the best situation. FWP is not signed longterm, nor expensively, so it wouldnt surprise me at all if Mendenhall is the Steeler RB for awhile.

Oh, and outside of S-Jax as RBs drafted later on, how bout Alexander (19), Deuce (23), Portis (51), McGahee (23), LJ (27), Maroney (21), Addai (30)

Im not endorsing any of those guys, but just putting things into perspective. Last time 3 RBs were like this was definitely 05, but I dont think you can compare class to class really. It wouldnt surprise me at all if DMc, Stew, and Mendy all turn out to be very good RBs long term. If anyones a bust, barring injury, Id say its DMc in reality.

How you can say right now how a top 10 prospect is overrated though is beyond me

 

[awesomeness]

Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.

A franchise with a pretty good draft history took Mendenhall when RB wasn't even a need for them. I don't see the problem.

 

[lord_helmet]

I like McFadden, doubt he holds out, but also don't think he's #1 on the board.Agree on Jones. He will be used perfectly I think.Disagree on DA getting the coaches loyalty. He's never had the coaches on his side, no reason to think he will this year. Stewart is the best guy to draft from an FF perspective this year.Mendenhall is overrated, the NFL does not think much of him apparently. I liked him before the draft, but his slide does worry me.Forte IS mediocre, yes!!!

Mendenhall will win ORY, bank on it.

So you passed on one or both of the other "big 3" to pick him, we get it.

 

[teamroc]

Hah, I think its funny how this Impact RB post turned into a Mendenhall post. Mostly funny bc Switz think's he's overrated, and he seems like the only person

It's actually a lot funnier then that.Switz had him the #1 RB on his board before the draft. But because he was taken after Stewart, he's now overrated. *lol* Because the Lions of all teams passed on him, he's overrated. Way to stick to your guns Switz! Talk about convictions. He goes from, underrated #1 RB on my board, to overrate in 24 hours, just based on him "sliding" into the 20s. That's classic. Throw out all that scouting, research, debate, the Lions passed on him! Where did I go wrong?!Stewart was a better fit for the "thunder" part of the Panthers RBBC, and Jones was a better fit for the "lightning" part of the Dallas RBBC. Looks like Mendenhall was drafted to be the 3 down back for the Steelers in the coming years. It will probably work out extremely well for him, and the draft bumped him up a notch in my book. The draft shouldn’t totally turn your rankings upside down. You might slide guys a little, but you should have some faith in your scouting and research. Er, I mean you should have faith in Blooms scouting and research.

 

[switz]

Hah, I think its funny how this Impact RB post turned into a Mendenhall post. Mostly funny bc Switz think's he's overrated, and he seems like the only person

It's actually a lot funnier then that.Switz had him the #1 RB on his board before the draft. But because he was taken after Stewart, he's now overrated. *lol* Because the Lions of all teams passed on him, he's overrated.

Way to stick to your guns Switz! Talk about convictions. He goes from, underrated #1 RB on my board, to overrate in 24 hours, just based on him "sliding" into the 20s. That's classic. Throw out all that scouting, research, debate, the Lions passed on him! Where did I go wrong?!

Stewart was a better fit for the "thunder" part of the Panthers RBBC, and Jones was a better fit for the "lightning" part of the Dallas RBBC. Looks like Mendenhall was drafted to be the 3 down back for the Steelers in the coming years. It will probably work out extremely well for him, and the draft bumped him up a notch in my book. The draft shouldn’t totally turn your rankings upside down. You might slide guys a little, but you should have some faith in your scouting and research. Er, I mean you should have faith in Blooms scouting and research.

SO - did any of you guys jumping on me even listed to the MP3 I was responding to?Someone on the show said Mendenhall was the #1 RB in the fantasy draft now. That is where I said he was overrated.

I have him at #3 now. I slid him a little. If I am going to take a guy at #1 in my fantasy draft, even dynasty, he's got to contribute right away. If you think Mendenhall walks in as the opening day starter, then rank him #1. I just don't see him being the every down back this year.

 

[yinzer]

Hah, I think its funny how this Impact RB post turned into a Mendenhall post. Mostly funny bc Switz think's he's overrated, and he seems like the only person

It's actually a lot funnier then that.Switz had him the #1 RB on his board before the draft. But because he was taken after Stewart, he's now overrated. *lol* Because the Lions of all teams passed on him, he's overrated.

Way to stick to your guns Switz! Talk about convictions. He goes from, underrated #1 RB on my board, to overrate in 24 hours, just based on him "sliding" into the 20s. That's classic. Throw out all that scouting, research, debate, the Lions passed on him! Where did I go wrong?!

Stewart was a better fit for the "thunder" part of the Panthers RBBC, and Jones was a better fit for the "lightning" part of the Dallas RBBC. Looks like Mendenhall was drafted to be the 3 down back for the Steelers in the coming years. It will probably work out extremely well for him, and the draft bumped him up a notch in my book. The draft shouldn’t totally turn your rankings upside down. You might slide guys a little, but you should have some faith in your scouting and research. Er, I mean you should have faith in Blooms scouting and research.

SO - did any of you guys jumping on me even listed to the MP3 I was responding to?Someone on the show said Mendenhall was the #1 RB in the fantasy draft now. That is where I said he was overrated.

I have him at #3 now. I slid him a little. If I am going to take a guy at #1 in my fantasy draft, even dynasty, he's got to contribute right away. If you think Mendenhall walks in as the opening day starter, then rank him #1. I just don't see him being the every down back this year.

Actually, I did listen to the whole 40 min or whatever of that audio clip. And why isnt Mendenhall going to contribute right away? Id say he's a shoe in for 6-8 TDs and I see his carries increasing later on in the year. At this point its a little hard to project his yardage. However, Im assuming you have DMc and Stewart or Jones ahead of him, but I dont see how they are going to better situations. Jones and Stewart will both be splitting significant carries, just like Mendy. DMc will likely get the majority, but Fargas will get his share as well, and that offense is pretty bad as well.

And idk if I would have Mendy #1 for 2008, but I think dynasty wise he's a very viable #1. As I said in my post, FWP is not signed expensively, nor longterm. His next contract will likely be significantly greater, and if Mendy puts up numbers he's expected to, I see him as the clear #1 in 3 years. I think being #1 on the Steelers, who have all their key skill players locked up for awhile, is a much better situation then DMc or Stewart, and = to Jones but I dont see Jones ever being a clear #1 there. The PIT offense is dynamic, and will be for awhile, thats big for Mendenhall

 

[bcr8f]

Not as much of him as we all thought they did. A lot of prognosticators had him going before Stewart. And teams after Stewart was grabbed that needed RBs also passed on him. Again, I don't think he's a bad RB, but to think he's the #1 pick is overrating him IMO.Why do I bother posting

The 2nd and 3rd best RBs sliding around a little is quite normal. People don't always get drafted in the order they were ranked, that doesn't mean the rankings were wrong. You thought Mendendall would go before Stewart, he didn't, so it rocked your world.You're probably overracting. Which probably goes without saying on a FF forum.Stewart was a better fit for Dwill. The Colts took Edge before Ricky. There's the "best RB" and then there's the "best fit". And no he didn't slide. He went about where most people expected him to go, in the early 20s. It's not a slide unless you drop 30-40 picks. 8 picks? Lets get realistic.

Or he's overrating himself.Odd that every team doesn't think McFadden is the top RB for their system. How about a little diversity in their thinking? They pick the player that fits best in their system and a lot goes into the interviews they have with them at the combine.

 

[Chunky Soup]

the top 3 are close enough that I cant say any is overrated as the #1 pick in a rookie draft.

McFadden, Stewart, and Jones?

And you wonder why people jumped on you?

 

[switz]

the top 3 are close enough that I cant say any is overrated as the #1 pick in a rookie draft.

McFadden, Stewart, and Jones?

And you wonder why people jumped on you?

I asked a question.... he said the top-3, they were the top-3 drafted.

 

[loqutis]

All of these comments were made while keeping DYNASTY in mind. Mendenhall has landed in RB heaven. McFadden lands in just about the worst possible situation. So, to me, ranking Mendenhall above McFadden makes perfect sense. Ranking him the top RB in the class is hardly a stretch

 

[One]

All of these comments were made while keeping DYNASTY in mind. Mendenhall has landed in RB heaven. McFadden lands in just about the worst possible situation.

I don't think the #6 ranked rushing team in the league was all that bad. '07

PIT:#3

511 att / 2168 yds / 135.5 ypg

Competition - Willy Parker, Najeh Davenport, Mewelde Moore

OAK: #6

508 att / 2086 yds / 130.4 ypg

Competition - Justin Fargas, Michael Bush

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All of these comments were made while keeping DYNASTY in mind. Mendenhall has landed in RB heaven. McFadden lands in just about the worst possible situation.

I don't think the #6 ranked rushing team in the league was all that bad. '07

PIT:#3

511 att / 2168 yds / 135.5 ypg

Competition - Willy Parker, Najeh Davenport, Mewelde Moore

OAK: #6

508 att / 2086 yds / 130.4 ypg

Competition - Justin Fargas, Michael Bush

Shut it!

 

[sholditch]

All of these comments were made while keeping DYNASTY in mind. Mendenhall has landed in RB heaven. McFadden lands in just about the worst possible situation.

I don't think the #6 ranked rushing team in the league was all that bad. '07

PIT:#3

511 att / 2168 yds / 135.5 ypg

Competition - Willy Parker, Najeh Davenport, Mewelde Moore

OAK: #6

508 att / 2086 yds / 130.4 ypg

Competition - Justin Fargas, Michael Bush

Stop twisting perfectly good arguments with inconvenient numbers...