Rotoworld is a journalistic Joke!? (1 Viewer)

[Sunday Devil]

I normally check Rotoworld for updates on my fantasy players on a normal basis. However, more and more I get annoyed by their commentary at the bottom of every news update and its gotten to the point where it has become a joke. Not only has it become a joke, but it has become a place where as a reader you aren't getting any logical or rational explanation for their commentary and/or analysis. I have tons of examples but the latest example:

"Chad Ochocinco (hamstring) was limited in practice Wednesday.

Ochocinco is a non-factor in both fantasy and reality." posted today (11/30/11)

Now I totally understand that "Ochocinco" is not a factor in fantasy football but was the extra quip/insult about OCHO "not being relevant in reality" really necessary??? What are you thoughts on Rotoworld analysis? helpful? not helpful?

Feel free to post any other updates that you think are stupid as well....

 

[footballnerd]

seems like they have a lot of accounts with fantasy sites that integrate their news into their leagues, with that locked up I imagine they are kicking their feet up.....hire 20 interns to spam out comments and reap the benefits. Notice how they have multiple posts of the same news, quantity over quality. You'd have better analysis on Twitter.

 

[ScottyDog]

 

[Multiple Scores]

Rotoworld is pathetic.

The only thing us as consumers can do is demand MFL drops them or we drop MFL.

 

[Shermanator]

They have decent articles, and they are second to none with breaking info. And the price is right

 

[marcobar11]

I agree. I'm looking for news references, not biased commentaries. It seems to be getting worse in terms of being close minded. Their Roy Williams slams really bothered me:

9/25 - "These two will continue to rotate, with Knox as the only one on the fantasy radar. Healthy or not, Williams is not a good NFL receiver."

9/28 - "The Bears need to give up the ghost on Williams and move forward with Johnny Knox"

We all know that Rotoworld and many fantasy owners would prefer that Johnny Knox got the most reps at WR, but in reality, Chicago has a rotation. And before Cutler went down, it worked. All 6 WRs that are on the roster are capable of getting playing time and moving the chains. Roy has a big build and long arms, and he is a key player on third down when the QB needs to put the ball where only Roy can go up and get his hands on it. He's not startable in fantasy, but anyone playing FFB should be smart enough to know that. I wouldn't have a problem with Rotoworld suggesting this, but to say he's a waste of space is just not right. Unfortunately, I haven't found another website that can compete with Rotoworld in terms of providing the references that it does.

 

[gethugefast1]

Whatever RW posts, just click on the "Source". That wat you get the same information without their comment.

 

[Sweet Love]

When you can scoop every other fantasy news source out there by a country mile, you can add whatever commentary you want.

 

[identikit]

Rotoworld is pathetic.

The only thing us as consumers can do is demand MFL drops them or we drop MFL.

Good luck with that.

 

[flapgreen]

Good breaking news.

 

[Sweet Love]

I agree. I'm looking for news references, not biased commentaries. It seems to be getting worse in terms of being close minded. Their Roy Williams slams really bothered me:9/25 - "These two will continue to rotate, with Knox as the only one on the fantasy radar. Healthy or not, Williams is not a good NFL receiver."9/28 - "The Bears need to give up the ghost on Williams and move forward with Johnny Knox"We all know that Rotoworld and many fantasy owners would prefer that Johnny Knox got the most reps at WR, but in reality, Chicago has a rotation. And before Cutler went down, it worked. All 6 WRs that are on the roster are capable of getting playing time and moving the chains. Roy has a big build and long arms, and he is a key player on third down when the QB needs to put the ball where only Roy can go up and get his hands on it. He's not startable in fantasy, but anyone playing FFB should be smart enough to know that. I wouldn't have a problem with Rotoworld suggesting this, but to say he's a waste of space is just not right. Unfortunately, I haven't found another website that can compete with Rotoworld in terms of providing the references that it does.

So let me get this straight. "We" can say Roy is a waste of space (because he is), yet a service that provides insight (whether intellectual or not) for their followers, cannot? How is this any different than the opinions Joe gives in his "Random Shots" articles?Quote from last week: "Didn't Nnamdi Asomugha used to be good?"...so offensive, I may cry.I am not a Rotoworld fanboy, but they give up-to-the-minute updates...better than any other service. What they choose to add to it is their business.

 

[Chaka]

What's the problem? Ocho has been a non-factor in real football.

 

[footballnerd]

I am not a Rotoworld fanboy, but they give up-to-the-minute updates...better than any other service. What they choose to add to it is their business.

they are faster than most sites (except beat writer twitter accounts), but 90% of the time the Shark Pool smokes 'em Good work fellas

 

[smashingsilver]

The only real criticism I have of Rotoworld is that their opinions influence the trade market, simply by factor of volume. After three weeks of twice daily posts downgrading a specific player, there's no chance that I can move that guy for anything resembling fair value, even if he's still producing. I've never seen a "news" site have such an effect on actual asset value since...ESPN.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I normally check Rotoworld for updates on my fantasy players on a normal basis. However, more and more I get annoyed by their commentary at the bottom of every news update and its gotten to the point where it has become a joke. Not only has it become a joke, but it has become a place where as a reader you aren't getting any logical or rational explanation for their commentary and/or analysis. I have tons of examples but the latest example:

"Chad Ochocinco (hamstring) was limited in practice Wednesday.

Ochocinco is a non-factor in both fantasy and reality." posted today (11/30/11)

Now I totally understand that "Ochocinco" is not a factor in fantasy football but was the extra quip/insult about OCHO "not being relevant in reality" really necessary??? What are you thoughts on Rotoworld analysis? helpful? not helpful?

Feel free to post any other updates that you think are stupid as well....

I would have to say this post is less relevant in reality than anything I have ever read at rotoworld.

 

[solorca]

The only real criticism I have of Rotoworld is that their opinions influence the trade market, simply by factor of volume.

Agreed. Especially if you use MFL, the first thing people do when they get a trade offer is check the news...and it's usually full of Rotoworld opinion.It has helped me make a few trades as well, when I noticed a comment or two when they were high on a player that I felt they were overranking.

 

[kinghill]

I don't put much stock in their commentaries

The value is getting quick blurbs about player status during the week then also their status on gameday

I like their Player News page

Those of you who hate it, what alternatives do you use?

(Note: I pay for and use FBGuys a lot but didn't see where they have a similar feed of player news?)

 

[Warrior]

Worthless. How about this little gem?

The Dallas Morning News reports Dez Bryant is likely to resume returning punts for the Cowboys.

Current return man Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is expected to be waived Wednesday, necessitating Bryant's return to a role owner Jerry Jones is on the record as not wanting him to fill. Bryant got off to a slow start this season after injuring his quad on a Week 1 return, and broke his leg returning a kick last season. The move won't affect his fantasy value barring injury.

Yeah, it's not like any of us participate in RETURN YARDAGE LEAGUES or anything.

Not to mention, their commentary is often outright biased and sometimes flat out wrong. They really need to stick to the actual news, not provide individual opinions, because the writers/reporters are horrible.

 

[T Love]

I normally check Rotoworld for updates on my fantasy players on a normal basis. However, more and more I get annoyed by their commentary at the bottom of every news update and its gotten to the point where it has become a joke. Not only has it become a joke, but it has become a place where as a reader you aren't getting any logical or rational explanation for their commentary and/or analysis. I have tons of examples but the latest example:

"Chad Ochocinco (hamstring) was limited in practice Wednesday.

Ochocinco is a non-factor in both fantasy and reality." posted today (11/30/11)

Now I totally understand that "Ochocinco" is not a factor in fantasy football but was the extra quip/insult about OCHO "not being relevant in reality" really necessary??? What are you thoughts on Rotoworld analysis? helpful? not helpful?

Feel free to post any other updates that you think are stupid as well....

I agree in general but are you Ochocinco or a member of his family? What in their update was incorrect?

 

[RUSF18]

Worthless. How about this little gem?

The Dallas Morning News reports Dez Bryant is likely to resume returning punts for the Cowboys.

Current return man Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is expected to be waived Wednesday, necessitating Bryant's return to a role owner Jerry Jones is on the record as not wanting him to fill. Bryant got off to a slow start this season after injuring his quad on a Week 1 return, and broke his leg returning a kick last season. The move won't affect his fantasy value barring injury.

Yeah, it's not like any of us participate in RETURN YARDAGE LEAGUES or anything.

Not to mention, their commentary is often outright biased and sometimes flat out wrong. They really need to stick to the actual news, not provide individual opinions, because the writers/reporters are horrible.

I think you're reading into the sentence you bolded too much. They're saying that him being used as a returner won't impact the amount of snaps he's getting as a receiver.

 

[bweiser]

rotoworld is not journalism. as a journalist, i am offended that someone would think it is.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I agree. I'm looking for news references, not biased commentaries. It seems to be getting worse in terms of being close minded. Their Roy Williams slams really bothered me:9/25 - "These two will continue to rotate, with Knox as the only one on the fantasy radar. Healthy or not, Williams is not a good NFL receiver."9/28 - "The Bears need to give up the ghost on Williams and move forward with Johnny Knox"We all know that Rotoworld and many fantasy owners would prefer that Johnny Knox got the most reps at WR, but in reality, Chicago has a rotation. And before Cutler went down, it worked. All 6 WRs that are on the roster are capable of getting playing time and moving the chains. Roy has a big build and long arms, and he is a key player on third down when the QB needs to put the ball where only Roy can go up and get his hands on it. He's not startable in fantasy, but anyone playing FFB should be smart enough to know that. I wouldn't have a problem with Rotoworld suggesting this, but to say he's a waste of space is just not right. Unfortunately, I haven't found another website that can compete with Rotoworld in terms of providing the references that it does.

kffl.com

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I don't put much stock in their commentaries

The value is getting quick blurbs about player status during the week then also their status on gameday

I like their Player News page

Those of you who hate it, what alternatives do you use?

(Note: I pay for and use FBGuys a lot but didn't see where they have a similar feed of player news?)

http://subscribers.f...m/apps/news.php It's under the news heading on the main subscriber page.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

rotowire is ok too

 

[kinghill]

I don't put much stock in their commentaries

The value is getting quick blurbs about player status during the week then also their status on gameday

I like their Player News page

Those of you who hate it, what alternatives do you use?

(Note: I pay for and use FBGuys a lot but didn't see where they have a similar feed of player news?)

http://subscribers.f...m/apps/news.php It's under the news heading on the main subscriber page.

Looks good, thanks.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I don't put much stock in their commentaries

The value is getting quick blurbs about player status during the week then also their status on gameday

I like their Player News page

Those of you who hate it, what alternatives do you use?

(Note: I pay for and use FBGuys a lot but didn't see where they have a similar feed of player news?)

http://subscribers.f...m/apps/news.php It's under the news heading on the main subscriber page.

Looks good, thanks.

thanks for checking out our newswire, commentary by me, Sigmund Bloom, and Joe Bryant.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Chad Johnson is non-factor in both fantasy football and real football. I'm sure he's been the butt of many jokes now for a couple of years.

 

[Sunday Devil]

seems like they have a lot of accounts with fantasy sites that integrate their news into their leagues, with that locked up I imagine they are kicking their feet up.....hire 20 interns to spam out comments and reap the benefits. Notice how they have multiple posts of the same news, quantity over quality. You'd have better analysis on Twitter.

absolutely!

 

[thehornet]

junky site. gone way down hill in pretty much 3 years time.

the commentary and opinions are a steamy pile of dog crap.

just get on twitter and follow the right people.

 

[Sea Duck]

Chad Johnson is non-factor in both fantasy football and real football. I'm sure he's been the butt of many jokes now for a couple of years.

He was a Pro-Bowler a couple years ago.

 

[Peeps Inc.]

The only real criticism I have of Rotoworld is that their opinions influence the trade market, simply by factor of volume.

Agreed. Especially if you use MFL, the first thing people do when they get a trade offer is check the news...and it's usually full of Rotoworld opinion.It has helped me make a few trades as well, when I noticed a comment or two when they were high on a player that I felt they were overranking.

see that's how you work it

 

[TS Garp]

I don't know -- I think they do a good job on the whole. The amount of content is staggering and it's constantly being updated. If you don't like their commentary, don't read it. I don't find it that off-putting at all and sort of appreciate the fact that they have a point of view and aren't always patting themselves on the back or talking about smart they are, as opposed to the news from some other sites...

 

[DoubleG]

I don't put much stock in their commentaries

The value is getting quick blurbs about player status during the week then also their status on gameday

I like their Player News page

Those of you who hate it, what alternatives do you use?

(Note: I pay for and use FBGuys a lot but didn't see where they have a similar feed of player news?)

http://subscribers.f...m/apps/news.php It's under the news heading on the main subscriber page.

Looks good, thanks.

thanks for checking out our newswire, commentary by me, Sigmund Bloom, and Joe Bryant.

Cecil - any chance you could add the position abbreviation to the bolded header for the players? Sometimes, when scanning the page, I see the team logo for a player I have on that team, but (shame on me) don't have the etnire roster memorized. So when I have say Ced Benson starting, and I see a Bengal whose name I don't recognize - I have to read the blurb to make sure he's not an O-lineman or something, when it turns out he's a LB.

 

[Shutout]

Agree with you guys. I've noticed for a while they seem to hav an axe to grind with certain player or they have a generic process tree that determines their posts (Every Rb that is older than 28 has a "plodding effort", every player that has missed a game in the last year is "fragile" or "made of glass").

With that being said, I still read them because they do a good job with the inactive news, and like it or not, they influence what all my league mates are thinking (very few of the people I play with in a couple of leagues appear to follow Twitter accounts or hang out here).

I also like the searchable content linked to each player. Its a good place to dig sometimes. Not always accurate but it gets you a start..

 

[Peter Lemonjello]

You get what you pay for. But more to the point... stop being such little girls!

 

[Warrior]

Worthless. How about this little gem?

The Dallas Morning News reports Dez Bryant is likely to resume returning punts for the Cowboys.

Current return man Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is expected to be waived Wednesday, necessitating Bryant's return to a role owner Jerry Jones is on the record as not wanting him to fill. Bryant got off to a slow start this season after injuring his quad on a Week 1 return, and broke his leg returning a kick last season. The move won't affect his fantasy value barring injury.

Yeah, it's not like any of us participate in RETURN YARDAGE LEAGUES or anything.

Not to mention, their commentary is often outright biased and sometimes flat out wrong. They really need to stick to the actual news, not provide individual opinions, because the writers/reporters are horrible.

I think you're reading into the sentence you bolded too much. They're saying that him being used as a returner won't impact the amount of snaps he's getting as a receiver.

What you said is correct. What they said is not. There's the problem.

 

[Peter Lemonjello]

Worthless. How about this little gem?

The Dallas Morning News reports Dez Bryant is likely to resume returning punts for the Cowboys.

Current return man Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is expected to be waived Wednesday, necessitating Bryant's return to a role owner Jerry Jones is on the record as not wanting him to fill. Bryant got off to a slow start this season after injuring his quad on a Week 1 return, and broke his leg returning a kick last season. The move won't affect his fantasy value barring injury.

Yeah, it's not like any of us participate in RETURN YARDAGE LEAGUES or anything.

Not to mention, their commentary is often outright biased and sometimes flat out wrong. They really need to stick to the actual news, not provide individual opinions, because the writers/reporters are horrible.

OK, then his return yards will provide additional value. You know that. Do you need to be spoon fed everything?

 

[Warrior]

I don't know -- I think they do a good job on the whole. The amount of content is staggering and it's constantly being updated. If you don't like their commentary, don't read it. I don't find it that off-putting at all and sort of appreciate the fact that they have a point of view and aren't always patting themselves on the back or talking about smart they are, as opposed to the news from some other sites...

Seriously? I see them do this all the time. "...like we suggested earlier in the year", "...as we predicted in our draft guide", "...as we've said all along".You'll rarely if EVER catch them saying they were wrong, but they're always the first blind squirrels to brag when they got something right.

How about these back-to-back updated for Pettigrew:

Brandon Pettigrew (shoulder) is active and starting against the Vikings in Week 3.

Pettigrew is just the 28th ranked fantasy tight end through two weeks. He belongs on fantasy benches until proven otherwise. Lions inactives: QB Drew Stanton, WR Rashied Davis, OT Jason Fox, OG Jacques McClendon, DT Nick Fairley, LB Doug Hogue, CB Alphonso Smith.

Brandon Pettigrew led the Lions with 11 catches for 112 yards against the Vikings in Week 3.

Rolling coverage to Calvin Johnson and Nate Burleson, the Vikings simply left the middle of the field open for dump-offs to Pettigrew. He had a team-high 13 targets compared to just one for Tony Scheffler. Pettigrew won't be left uncovered against the Cowboys next week.

Brandon Pettigrew (questionable, shoulder) was limited in his return to Lions practice Friday.

Those covering the Lions believe Pettigrew is more likely to play against the Vikings than miss the game, but it's far from guaranteed considering he barely practiced all week. Pettigrew could easily get stuck on the line helping LT Jeff Backus block RE Jared Allen, so be sure to avoid him in fantasy leagues.

Brandon Pettigrew caught six passes for 64 yards in the Lions' Week 4 win.

At least for now, Pettigrew has pushed Nate Burleson into the fantasy rear-view mirror. The burly tight end has yet to find the end zone this season, but is now on pace for 88 receptions and 960 yards. He'll be a worthwhile, if low-end TE1 option as the bye weeks set in. The Lions play the Bears next.

Brandon Pettigrew found the end zone against the Bears on an 18-yard touchdown catch, and finished with four receptions for 39 yards in Week 5.

Pettigrew is now averaging 5.2 catches and 55.8 yards per game with his first touchdown catch now in the books. He's a legit low-end TE1 during the upcoming bye weeks, but as long as Calvin Johnson is alive and breathing Pettigrew is going to struggle for looks in the red zone.

Basically: "Pettigrew sucks, don't start him. Pettigrew has MONSTER game. Pettigrew still sucks, don't start him. Pettigrew is a legit starting TE."

Never an "oops...sorry if you dropped him because we're idiots".

 

[RUSF18]

You realize their stance didn't change at all...they called him a "low-end TE1 during bye weeks" both times.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When you can scoop every other fantasy news source out there by a country mile, you can add whatever commentary you want.

I'm not sure why people get so hung up on their commentaries. I look at the news blurb and while I do read the commentaries I take it. like I take any fantasy "advice" - use it or don't based on my own beliefs in that player. I really only use it for the news.

 

[Topes]

Rotoworld is a journalistic Joke!? More of a statement and not a question.

Had you not used the question mark, you would not have needed to provide that clarification.

 

[Rodeojones]

I agree. I'm looking for news references, not biased commentaries. It seems to be getting worse in terms of being close minded. Their Roy Williams slams really bothered me:9/25 - "These two will continue to rotate, with Knox as the only one on the fantasy radar. Healthy or not, Williams is not a good NFL receiver."9/28 - "The Bears need to give up the ghost on Williams and move forward with Johnny Knox"We all know that Rotoworld and many fantasy owners would prefer that Johnny Knox got the most reps at WR, but in reality, Chicago has a rotation. And before Cutler went down, it worked. All 6 WRs that are on the roster are capable of getting playing time and moving the chains. Roy has a big build and long arms, and he is a key player on third down when the QB needs to put the ball where only Roy can go up and get his hands on it. He's not startable in fantasy, but anyone playing FFB should be smart enough to know that. I wouldn't have a problem with Rotoworld suggesting this, but to say he's a waste of space is just not right. Unfortunately, I haven't found another website that can compete with Rotoworld in terms of providing the references that it does.

So let me get this straight. "We" can say Roy is a waste of space (because he is), yet a service that provides insight (whether intellectual or not) for their followers, cannot? How is this any different than the opinions Joe gives in his "Random Shots" articles?Quote from last week: "Didn't Nnamdi Asomugha used to be good?"...so offensive, I may cry.I am not a Rotoworld fanboy, but they give up-to-the-minute updates...better than any other service. What they choose to add to it is their business.

My thoughts exactly...

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

 

[Dought Man]

Worthless. How about this little gem?

The Dallas Morning News reports Dez Bryant is likely to resume returning punts for the Cowboys.

Current return man Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is expected to be waived Wednesday, necessitating Bryant's return to a role owner Jerry Jones is on the record as not wanting him to fill. Bryant got off to a slow start this season after injuring his quad on a Week 1 return, and broke his leg returning a kick last season. The move won't affect his fantasy value barring injury.

Yeah, it's not like any of us participate in RETURN YARDAGE LEAGUES or anything.

Not to mention, their commentary is often outright biased and sometimes flat out wrong. They really need to stick to the actual news, not provide individual opinions, because the writers/reporters are horrible.

I imagine Rotoworld would sleep ok, knowing they offended the 120 people who play in return yardage leagues...

 

[cvnpoka]

yall really dont possess the reading comprehension to discern the opinions from the facts in rotoworld's blurbs?

 

[footballfever]

Rotoworld update faster than anyone in terms of injury updates/playing status, etc. so there's really no better resource when it comes to getting quick information.

 

[Chaka]

The feeling I am getting from this thread is that if roto's commentary does not match the reader's personal viewpoints it is considered worthless.

 

[The General]

I read the game breakdown article by Silva (think that's his name) that comes out on Thursdays. That is consistently solid.

I find their player updates useful for stuff like if a player practiced.

Just ignore their dumb comments.

 

[cvnpoka]

ya i dont take their comments much less seriously than fbg's waldman, bloom, lamney dodds etc. nor posters on this board. i dont see why its so hard to differentiate their opinions from facts about practice and quotes from players, coaches and beat writer.

 

[footballnerd]

of course it's easy to differentiate what to take from their comments, but some of the things they say are down right embarrassing to whoever is the editor.

trust me, nobody with football sense is depending on their analysis, but as someone pointed out you can use to your advantage...