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Roy Williams Horse Collar (1 Viewer)
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MaddHatter
Footballguy
When they finally say enough is enough with John Lynch leading with his helmet?
I agree... pitiful. You see it almost on a weekly basis with Williams, and Lynch for that matter too.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
If he was faster he wouldnt have to do that.
mr. furley
Footballguy
the only time i really notice the guy is when he's horse collaring someone or chasing them down after getting beat
mad sweeney
Footballguy
He's already been fined for it twice this year and warned that another one could lead to a suspension. And I believe he leads the league in HC calls against him this year. So, uh, you're a little off. I didn't see this one but the refs missed a big one against Jacobs earlier, not Williams though a fifty-something number.
redman
Footballguy
I agree, and it's only fair if he gets injured, such as by suffering the kind of tibia fracture he's inflicted on others.
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
I think I've seen three from him today, and I've on ly been half-way watching the game. They should fine this bum heavily and ban him for multiple weeks.
redman
Footballguy
That'll teach him.
bentley
Footballguy
As a Cowboys fan, I completely support this course of action. He sucks. My 50 year old aunt would be better in coverage, and she'd never get called for a penalty.
-Crippler-
Footballguy
He must be doing something right if he's still the starter. If he sucks, then all of the backups must be atrocious.
Or when he is knocking someone the #### out. These threads never get old. 31 sucks in coverage and is great in run support. End of story.
Don't you Giants fans have any better excuses? You got ##### slapped in your own house. Cry elsewhere.
Brutis
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Roy Williams took out two players in one pre season (Calico and someone else) and TO in the regular season. It's a dangerous play and he's the only guy that can't seem to learn how to tackle otherwise. Hope he gets a suspension.
Chop blocks, shots to the head, late hits, players diving at knees, and other cheap shots are just as bad. Seriously enough crying about this Roy rule.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
We'll see when those fines get handed out this week if it's getting enforced or not. A majority of the time I see it, it gets called. It won't be scrapped, Roy will get nailed for it by Goodell and they'll empahsize it. I suppose we should bring back chop blocks, clotheslines, legalize facemasks etc... It's a dangerous play the way it's worded. Geting pulled down from behind isn't necessarily dirty, but having someones entire weight thrown on you while being dragged down is.
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Phlash
Footballguy
Your posts belong on a different forum, one that has no problem with bad jokes and subtly worded gay bashing. Leave them out of the Shark Pool, TIA.
horse collar isn't even 100% illegal, you can use it most of the time.
look how bad the officiating has become. and its because you have referees looking for things like flagrant helmet-to-helmet hits and horse-collars, things that dont even have an impact competetively. someone getting speared is going to be tackled anyways. look at how inconsistent pass-interference has become, and its because of petty stuff like this
look how bad the officiating has become. and its because you have referees looking for things like flagrant helmet-to-helmet hits and horse-collars, things that dont even have an impact competetively. someone getting speared is going to be tackled anyways. look at how inconsistent pass-interference has become, and its because of petty stuff like this
Brutis
Footballguy
Wow, its post like these that make me realize what sissys there are watching football today. Can you believe players used to actually tackle pretty hard? they used to ram your head into the turf, close line you and do all sorts of "nasty" things. Its a good thing you didnt watch football back in the day.You're a democrat, aren't you?eefflrat said:
Tyrion
Footballguy
Calico was taken out by Jeff Fisher. Who has their 6'5 wide out do an end around? That should be illegal.
if it was dirty, it would be illegal 100% of the time. the nfl knows they have to put rules like this to portray the image that player safety is their #1 priority.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
A horse collar is illegal 100% of the time.
whoa whoa whoanot every liberal is a sissyi voted for nader in the past two electionsWow, its post like these that make me realize what sissys there are watching football today. Can you believe players used to actually tackle pretty hard? they used to ram your head into the turf, close line you and do all sorts of "nasty" things. Its a good thing you didnt watch football back in the day.You're a democrat, aren't you?eefflrat said:
incorrecthorse collars are illegal only OUTSIDE of the tackles buddy.you may want to re-read the rule.or you can just pound sand
bentley
Footballguy
Wait a minute. Let's not impugn the FFA. Bad football jokes belong in this cess pool, not polluting the beauty that is the FFA.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Semantics. If it's inside the tackles it isn't a "horse collar" as defined by the rules. Only thing I'm going to pound is the ignore button I reserve for tools like yourself.
semantics?you are a jokeryou can horse collar all you want between the tackles, a horse collar is a horse collar.they are just trying to protect WRs, and you support it.
Tyrion
Footballguy
I think you just proved his point for him.
thank you!
OU#1
Footballguy
The Toomer tackle wasn't a horse collar. He had a handful of jersey as was shown in the slow-mo replay of the tackle.
I believe you need to have shoulder pads to get the penalty for the horse collar? I'm not 100% but that's how I understood it.
Still Roy needs to learn how to tackle again, and the masses need to stop voting him into the Pro Bowl every season.
I believe you need to have shoulder pads to get the penalty for the horse collar? I'm not 100% but that's how I understood it.
Still Roy needs to learn how to tackle again, and the masses need to stop voting him into the Pro Bowl every season.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
The added the jersey this season, same as the shoulder pads.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Did you miss the part where he's already been fined twoce this season and will probably get suspended for these? I didn't see them so I dunno how blatant they were, but he was warned last time he got fined that he would get suspended if he did it again. Hard to imagine that it won't happen if he did it more than once in a game.
They need to penalize it in college also so when they get into the NFL they are not tempted to use it as a means to tackle an opponent. If you look at film of Roy W. back at Texas a majority of his tackles were of the horse collar variety.
I also agree when will Lynch stop leading with his helmet. Will he be the first one ejected with the new rule in effect.
I also agree when will Lynch stop leading with his helmet. Will he be the first one ejected with the new rule in effect.
would you like some cheese?
bentley
Footballguy
I know you're on a roll and all, but I don't think Roy Williams the receiver had more than 3 or 4 tackles at the University of Texas. Most of them probably came on Chris Simms interceptions. Since you're a film expert, I'll leave that up to you. Let me know when you get to the tape on Roy Williams' time as a safety at Oklahoma.
