Rumor - Brandon Marshall to Green Bay (1 Viewer)

[Verbal Kint]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

 

[dschuler]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

you think he'd like a do-over on that one?

 

[runner06]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

The same reason any team would. He's an ultra talented WR.

 

[baconisgood]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

 

[bcr8f]

Great...because the last thing the Broncos need is another freaking TE.

Jennings and Marshall....Rodgers will throw for 6,000, gees!No way this happens unless they want to steal the light from Favre and do this when he plays his first nationally tv game since coming back tho th epurple squad!Just a thought!Not happening, sorry.... someone has to be blowing smoke!

He will anyway. Finley will be Marshall this year. Doubt this is true. Not for Driver and Lee. Maybe for younger players.Green Bay may be a good spot for him though to get himself together.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I think Marshall is 150% better than Driver, Yes.

I can honestly say I have NO idea what you are even talking about right now.

I will repeat here, one more time for you the bullet points of what I have stated. if you still dont get it, then please dont respond again.

Driver has no trade value for Denver.

Marshall is 10X the receiver Driver is today.The broncos want picks and youth if they trade their stud WR.

Driver would be a good clubhouse guy like Troy Brown.

I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference.

It's all about reading comprehension James the Scot. Get some!!

I see why you have no idea what I am saying. Because you apparently have no idea what you are saying.Is Marshall 10x better than Driver or 150% better? I'm no math whiz but I understand that those are not the same. So apparently you have difficulty in articulating in the written word those thoughts that rattle around in your brain. Since the nuances of the English language are lost on you, I'd suggest communicating in something less flexible like...numbers. Oh, but you've already shown you don't do well with those either.

So this is another example of you saying one thing first and then changing it later on. Which, since you can't seem to understand me, is what I was accusing you of.

Remember, you compared Brown to Driver, got called on it, and then claimed you were "clearly" not comparing them ability wise even though nothing in your post said you were excluding their respective abilities.

But the funniest thing you posted was:

"I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference."

So clubhouse presence isn't a reason, but it's important, but it isn't a priority? Again, you post things that don't make sense. If it weren't a reason, then it couldn't be important, by definition.

It sounds like what you were trying to say is that while clubhouse presence is important, it isn't as important as ability, which makes it a lower priority than ability. If that's what you were trying to say with that convoluted torture of the English language you posted, I can only say "Thank you Captain Obvious".

But back to Brown v. Driver...

If you have no idea what I am talking about, I'll say this slow and concise so you'll understand...

It was stupid to compare Brown to Driver in a trade value discussion because ability IS a critical part of the equation and Driver's ability is greater than Brown's, thus rendering the two incomparable.

You know, it's amazing to me that you go on a rant about how ability trumps locker room presence in a post trying to justify how Brown is a fair comparison to Driver by...get this...ignoring their ability. Rich. Consistency is so under-rated these days.

 

[Buffaloes]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

 

[North]

A rival FF site is reporting that on local radio in Green Bay area, former Packer LeRoy Butler heard from Donald Driver, that there is a possible deal that will send Marshall to GB for Driver & Lee. Supposedly, the hangup is that GB will not give Marshall a contract extension. Sorry, no link; I received it in an e-mail. Lots of "heard it from X that heard it from Y" here, so no idea of its validity.

I think what you failed to mention was the beginning of this conversation you heard on the radio. I probably went something like this "I wonder if there was any way we could get Marshall? Woulnd't it be crazy if we could get Marshall for next to nothing, like Driver and Lee?" "That would be awesome if we could trade WR two years away from retirement and a TE that isn't even one of the ten best in the conference."

 

[T Man]

Shut this nosense down.

It just needed to be said again, two pages later.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I just don't see any team trading for Marshall unless they think they are willing to pay him what he wants. So why trade for him to inherit the same contract mess that Denver has with him?

The film clip of his practice shenanigans hurts his trade value. Any team thinking about bringing him in can't reasonably expect him to be an asset in 2009 until after they get his 2010 money situation worked out.

 

[baconisgood]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

I didn't say it was impossible- but do you honestly think that the Packers are better than the Vikings or Bears right now going into the season? if things fall their way they could win the division- but thats probably only going to to happen ~15-20% of the time (off the top of my head) and thats with Detroit just sucking. Marshall on that team could turn them into an Arizona like offense but with a better running game.

 

[thatguy]

As a Marshall owner i hope so

As a Marshall owner I hope so too.As a Jennings owner I really hope not.As a Denver fan I really really really hope not.

 

[baconisgood]

I just don't see any team trading for Marshall unless they think they are willing to pay him what he wants. So why trade for him to inherit the same contract mess that Denver has with him?

Marshall has several times stated that he doesn't like the organization and doesn't like the training staff and blames them for his hip problems. justified or not, at this point simply getting out of Denver could be enough to get Marshall to play hard for one season. For the right price that is an alluring prospect for many NFL teams.

 

[Buffaloes]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

I didn't say it was impossible- but do you honestly think that the Packers are better than the Vikings or Bears right now going into the season? if things fall their way they could win the division- but thats probably only going to to happen ~15-20% of the time (off the top of my head) and thats with Detroit just sucking. Marshall on that team could turn them into an Arizona like offense but with a better running game.

Yes. And I think their WRs corps is deeper than any other in the league. With Jennings, Nelson and Jones in tow, this offense should be humming along for years to come. I think the Packers are the best team in the division right now.

 

[thehornet]

I think Marshall is 150% better than Driver, Yes.

I can honestly say I have NO idea what you are even talking about right now.

I will repeat here, one more time for you the bullet points of what I have stated. if you still dont get it, then please dont respond again.

Driver has no trade value for Denver.

Marshall is 10X the receiver Driver is today.The broncos want picks and youth if they trade their stud WR.

Driver would be a good clubhouse guy like Troy Brown.

I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference.

It's all about reading comprehension James the Scot. Get some!!

I see why you have no idea what I am saying. Because you apparently have no idea what you are saying.Is Marshall 10x better than Driver or 150% better? I'm no math whiz but I understand that those are not the same. So apparently you have difficulty in articulating in the written word those thoughts that rattle around in your brain. Since the nuances of the English language are lost on you, I'd suggest communicating in something less flexible like...numbers. Oh, but you've already shown you don't do well with those either.

So this is another example of you saying one thing first and then changing it later on. Which, since you can't seem to understand me, is what I was accusing you of.

Remember, you compared Brown to Driver, got called on it, and then claimed you were "clearly" not comparing them ability wise even though nothing in your post said you were excluding their respective abilities.

But the funniest thing you posted was:

"I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference."

So clubhouse presence isn't a reason, but it's important, but it isn't a priority? Again, you post things that don't make sense. If it weren't a reason, then it couldn't be important, by definition.

It sounds like what you were trying to say is that while clubhouse presence is important, it isn't as important as abilityich makes is a lower priority than is ability. If that's what you were trying to say with that convoluted torture of the English language you posted, I can only say "Thank you Captain Obvious".

But back to Brown v. Driver...

If you have no idea what I am talking about, I'll say this slow and concise so you'll understand...

It was stupid to compare Brown to Driver in a trade value discussion because ability IS a critical part of the equation and Driver's ability is greater than Brown's, thus rendering the two incomparable.

You know, it's amazing to me that you go on a rant about how ability trumps locker room presence in a post trying to justify how Brown is a fair comparison to Driver by...get this...ignoring their ability. Rich. Consistency is so under-rated these days.

Hey little guy, You have been in this thread for 2 hours costructing that piece of trash comeback that is rife with errors and false information. You have succesfully taken EVERY SINGLE word i have said and taken it out of context. It takes talent to be able to put that much bullsh*t into one full days' worth of posting, yet you have accomplished it in one thread. I can't even begin to dissect your baseless rambling, so therefore, I won't. Congrats on being the first person I have ever put on ignore.

 

[whodeywhodey]

This has about a .0000001% chance of happening or being true. But just for ghits and siggles...

Move Driver down

Move Jennings down

Move Finley way way up

Move Rodgers up

 

[The Kerminator]

First I heard of this rumor and Butler was on WSSP ESPN radio this afternoon and not a word. I love LeRoy Butler but he likes to talk so I would take anything he says with a grain of salt. Butler has been wanting to get into coaching and with the Packers. Word is that the Packers don't like the fact that he is very friendly with the media and loves to talk.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I think Marshall is 150% better than Driver, Yes.

I can honestly say I have NO idea what you are even talking about right now.

I will repeat here, one more time for you the bullet points of what I have stated. if you still dont get it, then please dont respond again.

Driver has no trade value for Denver.

Marshall is 10X the receiver Driver is today.The broncos want picks and youth if they trade their stud WR.

Driver would be a good clubhouse guy like Troy Brown.

I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference.

It's all about reading comprehension James the Scot. Get some!!

I see why you have no idea what I am saying. Because you apparently have no idea what you are saying.Is Marshall 10x better than Driver or 150% better? I'm no math whiz but I understand that those are not the same. So apparently you have difficulty in articulating in the written word those thoughts that rattle around in your brain. Since the nuances of the English language are lost on you, I'd suggest communicating in something less flexible like...numbers. Oh, but you've already shown you don't do well with those either.

So this is another example of you saying one thing first and then changing it later on. Which, since you can't seem to understand me, is what I was accusing you of.

Remember, you compared Brown to Driver, got called on it, and then claimed you were "clearly" not comparing them ability wise even though nothing in your post said you were excluding their respective abilities.

But the funniest thing you posted was:

"I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference."

So clubhouse presence isn't a reason, but it's important, but it isn't a priority? Again, you post things that don't make sense. If it weren't a reason, then it couldn't be important, by definition.

It sounds like what you were trying to say is that while clubhouse presence is important, it isn't as important as abilityich makes is a lower priority than is ability. If that's what you were trying to say with that convoluted torture of the English language you posted, I can only say "Thank you Captain Obvious".

But back to Brown v. Driver...

If you have no idea what I am talking about, I'll say this slow and concise so you'll understand...

It was stupid to compare Brown to Driver in a trade value discussion because ability IS a critical part of the equation and Driver's ability is greater than Brown's, thus rendering the two incomparable.

You know, it's amazing to me that you go on a rant about how ability trumps locker room presence in a post trying to justify how Brown is a fair comparison to Driver by...get this...ignoring their ability. Rich. Consistency is so under-rated these days.

Hey little guy, You have been in this thread for 2 hours costructing that piece of trash comeback that is rife with errors and false information. You have succesfully taken EVERY SINGLE word i have said and taken it out of context. It takes talent to be able to put that much bullsh*t into one full days' worth of posting, yet you have accomplished it in one thread. I can't even begin to dissect your baseless rambling, so therefore, I won't. Congrats on being the first person I have ever put on ignore.

Thanks. I guess I won. What ever happened to the guy that wanted to crack wise and hurl insults about people's reading comprehension when they disagreed with him?It speaks volumes that you feel the need to come back here and tell me that you are putting me on ignore...after you make a parting shot. I bet you're the kind of guy who squeals the tires, flips the bird and calls the other guy a ##### as you run away.

Yeah, I think you'll sneak back and read this.

But it's nothing personal on my end. I just try and give as good as I get. If we differ in opinions in another thread, I'll be civil until you turn into an insulting smartass again. No worries.

 

[thehornet]

I think Marshall is 150% better than Driver, Yes.

I can honestly say I have NO idea what you are even talking about right now.

I will repeat here, one more time for you the bullet points of what I have stated. if you still dont get it, then please dont respond again.

Driver has no trade value for Denver.

Marshall is 10X the receiver Driver is today.The broncos want picks and youth if they trade their stud WR.

Driver would be a good clubhouse guy like Troy Brown.

I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference.

It's all about reading comprehension James the Scot. Get some!!

I see why you have no idea what I am saying. Because you apparently have no idea what you are saying.Is Marshall 10x better than Driver or 150% better? I'm no math whiz but I understand that those are not the same. So apparently you have difficulty in articulating in the written word those thoughts that rattle around in your brain. Since the nuances of the English language are lost on you, I'd suggest communicating in something less flexible like...numbers. Oh, but you've already shown you don't do well with those either.

So this is another example of you saying one thing first and then changing it later on. Which, since you can't seem to understand me, is what I was accusing you of.

Remember, you compared Brown to Driver, got called on it, and then claimed you were "clearly" not comparing them ability wise even though nothing in your post said you were excluding their respective abilities.

But the funniest thing you posted was:

"I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference."

So clubhouse presence isn't a reason, but it's important, but it isn't a priority? Again, you post things that don't make sense. If it weren't a reason, then it couldn't be important, by definition.

It sounds like what you were trying to say is that while clubhouse presence is important, it isn't as important as abilityich makes is a lower priority than is ability. If that's what you were trying to say with that convoluted torture of the English language you posted, I can only say "Thank you Captain Obvious".

But back to Brown v. Driver...

If you have no idea what I am talking about, I'll say this slow and concise so you'll understand...

It was stupid to compare Brown to Driver in a trade value discussion because ability IS a critical part of the equation and Driver's ability is greater than Brown's, thus rendering the two incomparable.

You know, it's amazing to me that you go on a rant about how ability trumps locker room presence in a post trying to justify how Brown is a fair comparison to Driver by...get this...ignoring their ability. Rich. Consistency is so under-rated these days.

Hey little guy, You have been in this thread for 2 hours costructing that piece of trash comeback that is rife with errors and false information. You have succesfully taken EVERY SINGLE word i have said and taken it out of context. It takes talent to be able to put that much bullsh*t into one full days' worth of posting, yet you have accomplished it in one thread. I can't even begin to dissect your baseless rambling, so therefore, I won't. Congrats on being the first person I have ever put on ignore.

Thanks. I guess I won. What ever happened to the guy that wanted to crack wise and hurl insults about people's reading comprehension when they disagreed with him?It speaks volumes that you feel the need to come back here and tell me that you are putting me on ignore...after you make a parting shot. I bet you're the kind of guy who squeals the tires, flips the bird and calls the other guy a ##### as you run away.

Yeah, I think you'll sneak back and read this.

But it's nothing personal on my end. I just try and give as good as I get. If we differ in opinions in another thread, I'll be civil until you turn into an insulting smartass again. No worries.

I wasn't trying to be a smartass until you kept turning my debate into something it wasn't. I'm generally very civil. The topic of this thread was Brandon Marshall rumored to go to GB. I simply stated my opinion that this would never happen for DD because it's not in Denver's interest to get an older receiver even if he is a good clubhouse guy (which mop thought would be a contributing factor as to why Denver might want him), which is also why I mentioned Troy Brown as a good comparison(he was a good role model as well). I never once compared talent level, but instead was forced to defend my position for even bringing the guy's name up. I'm really not sure how the whole thing got sidetracked after that. Anyways, sorry for throwing insults. I still firmly believe that there is no way Denver trades for DD unless there are picks involved.

 

[cvnpoka]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

I didn't say it was impossible- but do you honestly think that the Packers are better than the Vikings or Bears right now going into the season? if things fall their way they could win the division- but thats probably only going to to happen ~15-20% of the time (off the top of my head) and thats with Detroit just sucking. Marshall on that team could turn them into an Arizona like offense but with a better running game.

Yes. And I think their WRs corps is deeper than any other in the league. With Jennings, Nelson and Jones in tow, this offense should be humming along for years to come. I think the Packers are the best team in the division right now.

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

 

[daddo39]

im calling "B*ll$h*t!"

 

[Verbal Kint]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

totally ridiculous. A team like the Ravens, I get it. No way the Pack risks disrupting a built-to-win team for a chance to marginally improve a stacked WR core. Makes zero sense at all.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Hey little guy, You have been in this thread for 2 hours costructing that piece of trash comeback that is rife with errors and false information. You have succesfully taken EVERY SINGLE word i have said and taken it out of context. It takes talent to be able to put that much bullsh*t into one full days' worth of posting, yet you have accomplished it in one thread. I can't even begin to dissect your baseless rambling, so therefore, I won't. Congrats on being the first person I have ever put on ignore.

Thanks. I guess I won. What ever happened to the guy that wanted to crack wise and hurl insults about people's reading comprehension when they disagreed with him?It speaks volumes that you feel the need to come back here and tell me that you are putting me on ignore...after you make a parting shot. I bet you're the kind of guy who squeals the tires, flips the bird and calls the other guy a ##### as you run away.Yeah, I think you'll sneak back and read this.But it's nothing personal on my end. I just try and give as good as I get. If we differ in opinions in another thread, I'll be civil until you turn into an insulting smartass again. No worries.

I wasn't trying to be a smartass until you kept turning my debate into something it wasn't. I'm generally very civil. The topic of this thread was Brandon Marshall rumored to go to GB. I simply stated my opinion that this would never happen for DD because it's not in Denver's interest to get an older receiver even if he is a good clubhouse guy (which mop thought would be a contributing factor as to why Denver might want him), which is also why I mentioned Troy Brown as a good comparison(he was a good role model as well). I never once compared talent level, but instead was forced to defend my position for even bringing the guy's name up. I'm really not sure how the whole thing got sidetracked after that. Anyways, sorry for throwing insults. I still firmly believe that there is no way Denver trades for DD unless there are picks involved.

I think your ignore function is messed up. PM Rude for help.

 

[rascal]

some guy on twitter of a trade with NYG.

 

[sho nuff]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

]Why are they unlikely to win their division with the WRs they have?

 

[sho nuff]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

I didn't say it was impossible- but do you honestly think that the Packers are better than the Vikings or Bears right now going into the season? if things fall their way they could win the division- but thats probably only going to to happen ~15-20% of the time (off the top of my head) and thats with Detroit just sucking. Marshall on that team could turn them into an Arizona like offense but with a better running game.

Yes...I honestly think the Packers are every bit as good as the Vikings and Bears right now.They proved it against those teams on the field last year too.

 

[PatsWillWin]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Actually I've never heard a team do a trade and mention that they wanted to "get younger." The NFL is a win-now league. Fantasy players talk about "getting younger" a lot more than NFL people do.

 

[sho nuff]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

Well lets just call the season now. I mean thats what Vegas said...and they have never been wrong on the odds to win right?Just a tip...the odds to win...are not always who they think will win. They design things to make money...to influence how betting will go to best make them a profit.

 

[baconisgood]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

]Why are they unlikely to win their division with the WRs they have?

Because their team isn't as good as the Vikings for sure, and probably not as good as the Bears.I REALLY don't understand what people are thinking in saying this wouldn't be a good idea for the Pack. They are getting a FREE upgrade at a position. Its a great deal from their POV as proposed in the OP. Marshall > 35 year old DD. Its very simple.

 

[Buffaloes]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

]Why are they unlikely to win their division with the WRs they have?

Because their team isn't as good as the Vikings for sure, and probably not as good as the Bears.I REALLY don't understand what people are thinking in saying this wouldn't be a good idea for the Pack. They are getting a FREE upgrade at a position. Its a great deal from their POV as proposed in the OP. Marshall > 35 year old DD. Its very simple.

Now factor in the contract Jennings just received and the fact that Marshall is underpaid and would likely want a raise. Now factor in Marshall's off-field antics and the recent video from practice that has surfaced. Now factor in the fact that Lee and Driver both know the Packer offense and have a good rapport with Rodgers. This deal doesn't make sense for either side.BTW, I have no idea why you think this team isn't as good as the Vikings "for sure." Do you really think the addition of Brett Favre makes the Vikes that much better?

 

[baconisgood]

Now factor in the contract Jennings just received and the fact that Marshall is underpaid and would likely want a raise. Now factor in Marshall's off-field antics and the recent video from practice that has surfaced. Now factor in the fact that Lee and Driver both know the Packer offense and have a good rapport with Rodgers. This deal doesn't make sense for either side.

BTW, I have no idea why you think this team isn't as good as the Vikings "for sure." Do you really think the addition of Brett Favre makes the Vikes that much better?

Its already been stipulated

Supposedly, the hangup is that GB will not give Marshall a contract extension

That GB would be trading for him for one season. They would only do this after having access to Marshall and making sure he was on board. What of Marshall's off field antics have occurred during the season? Good rapport doesn't trump a large gap in talent.

The vikings have a better defense and a better running game. If BJ Raji plays well and their secondary plays better they would be strong contenders, but yes- Favre is a noticeable upgrade over what they had last year at QB and Harvin has the potential to win them an extra game with his big play ability.

 

[thehornet]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Actually I've never heard a team do a trade and mention that they wanted to "get younger." The NFL is a win-now league. Fantasy players talk about "getting younger" a lot more than NFL people do.

In a hypotheetical trade like this being dsiscussed here, teams like picks. Is this really debatable?

 

[sho nuff]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

]Why are they unlikely to win their division with the WRs they have?

Because their team isn't as good as the Vikings for sure, and probably not as good as the Bears.I REALLY don't understand what people are thinking in saying this wouldn't be a good idea for the Pack. They are getting a FREE upgrade at a position. Its a great deal from their POV as proposed in the OP. Marshall > 35 year old DD. Its very simple.

Because this is not fantasy football.Because Driver with those WRs might very well be better for the Packers than brining in Brandon Marshall.As for not being as good as the Vikings...maybe. We will see...its a long season.Bears...same thing.One thing is for sure...the Packer offense should be able to score on anyone the way it is right now.Why disrupt that with a guy like Marshall who might snap and screw up and be suspended byt he league at anytime...who doesn't know the system...has no chemistry with the other WRs or the QB at this point?IMO...it looks nice on paper if you look at Marshall's stats...but looks bad in any other way of looking at it.Plus it leaves GB with one TE.

 

[sho nuff]

Good rapport doesn't trump a large gap in talent.

I disagree.

 

[PatsWillWin]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Actually I've never heard a team do a trade and mention that they wanted to "get younger." The NFL is a win-now league. Fantasy players talk about "getting younger" a lot more than NFL people do.

In a hypotheetical trade like this being dsiscussed here, teams like picks. Is this really debatable?

Yeah, teams like picks. Picks are good. This is not the same thing as what you said. At all.

 

[twistd]

why would GB trade for Marshall. They are so stacked at WR as it is they can't get them all on the field. "Hey let's bring in a malcontent cancer!"

A- its for one year. Just oneB- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

]Why are they unlikely to win their division with the WRs they have?

Actually, after seeing the preseason, I'd say the Packers are the favorites to win the division. I knew the offense would be good, but I am surprised that the defense has played so well. Capers has done a masterful job.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

This may have been true several weeks ago, but the odds have tightened significantly since preseason play began. Sportsbook.com currently has the Vikings at +150 and the Bears and Packers at +180 to win the NFC North. I was in Vegas this weekend and was disappointed to see the season win totals for the Packers are now over 9.0 at -140 (Vikings are over 9.5 at -135).Otherwise, no comment to the absurd rumor referenced in this thread.

 

[thehornet]

Actually I've never heard a team do a trade and mention that they wanted to "get younger." The NFL is a win-now league. Fantasy players talk about "getting younger" a lot more than NFL people do.

In a hypothetical trade like this being dsiscussed here, teams like picks. Is this really debatable?

Yeah, teams like picks. Picks are good. This is not the same thing as what you said. At all.

Ya because getting picks doesn't mean getting younger. Jesus dude, you couldn't deduce that from what i wrote???

See, you think you're being funny but you're just making yourself look stupid. You know that's exactly what I meant but you chose to post something ignorant anyways.

im outta this thread. Nothing but combative posters.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I wasn't trying to be a smartass until you kept turning my debate into something it wasn't. I'm generally very civil. The topic of this thread was Brandon Marshall rumored to go to GB. I simply stated my opinion that this would never happen for DD because it's not in Denver's interest to get an older receiver even if he is a good clubhouse guy (which mop thought would be a contributing factor as to why Denver might want him), which is also why I mentioned Troy Brown as a good comparison(he was a good role model as well). I never once compared talent level, but instead was forced to defend my position for even bringing the guy's name up. I'm really not sure how the whole thing got sidetracked after that. Anyways, sorry for throwing insults. I still firmly believe that there is no way Denver trades for DD unless there are picks involved.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree about what I was doing, but we're cool as far as I am concerned. I actually agree with you that this trade isn't likely to happen, so we've got some common ground. Peace.

 

[dschuler]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Actually I've never heard a team do a trade and mention that they wanted to "get younger." The NFL is a win-now league. Fantasy players talk about "getting younger" a lot more than NFL people do.

 

[footballnerd]

I think FFers aren't realizing Marshall can't fetch as much in a trade as you think. He needs a new contract and he's another slip on a McDonalds wrapper away from a lengthy league suspension. Teams aren't going to break out 1st round picks and hot young talent to acquire him. I think the Broncos would be doing about as well as they could if they get a legit veteran WR like Driver.

A Disgruntled Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton.A Disgruntled Randy Moss for a 4th round pick.A Disgruntled Terrell Owens get cut and signs with the CowboysThis is when rip offs happen.

 

[yoadrian]

Fact:

GB has enough talent at WR

Currently, DEN is absolutely thin at receiver

DEN already has a clear possession receiver with Royal

DEN already has a great TE in Scheffler

Driver is already well aquainted with the GB playbook

DEN suspended Marshall for the preseason but not the regular season

This may have been true BEFORE all the injuries in Denver, I wouldn't do it but lets see how much of an idiot McDaniels can be this year!

 

[shredhead]

I'm pretty sure almost everyone is in agreement that Marshall to the Pack for Driver and Lee isn't going to happen, so I pose this question. As a wishful Broncos fan, would any team give up a QB for Marshall? I know there would have to be other pieces to the puzzle, but could it happen? How about Marshall for Tavarius Jackson? Derrick Anderson? Jon Kitna? Any of these guys would be an upgrade over Orton/Simms, and at least 2 if not all 3 of those teams could use an upgrade at WR. I know McDoosh's ego is too big and he backed himself into a corner with Orton, and none of these scenarios is likely to happen, but a guy can have some wishful thinking can't he? I figured since this whole thread is about a crazy trade scenario involving Marshall that I'd just throw some more craziness into the fire.

 

[J R]

I'm pretty sure almost everyone is in agreement that Marshall to the Pack for Driver and Lee isn't going to happen, so I pose this question. As a wishful Broncos fan, would any team give up a QB for Marshall? I know there would have to be other pieces to the puzzle, but could it happen? How about Marshall for Tavarius Jackson? Derrick Anderson? Jon Kitna? Any of these guys would be an upgrade over Orton/Simms, and at least 2 if not all 3 of those teams could use an upgrade at WR. I know McDoosh's ego is too big and he backed himself into a corner with Orton, and none of these scenarios is likely to happen, but a guy can have some wishful thinking can't he? I figured since this whole thread is about a crazy trade scenario involving Marshall that I'd just throw some more craziness into the fire.

They are?

 

[cvnpoka]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

This may have been true several weeks ago, but the odds have tightened significantly since preseason play began. Sportsbook.com currently has the Vikings at +150 and the Bears and Packers at +180 to win the NFC North. I was in Vegas this weekend and was disappointed to see the season win totals for the Packers are now over 9.0 at -140 (Vikings are over 9.5 at -135).Otherwise, no comment to the absurd rumor referenced in this thread.

bodog nfc north oddsminn 27/20chi 9/5gb 11/5det 15/1betus:minn +150chi +185gb +225det +1500pinnacle only has regular season winsminn 9.5 -101/-115chi 8.5 -149/+133gb 8.5 -170/+1545dimes future lines are down at the moment.sportsbook:minn +150chi +185gb +185sbgglobalminn evenchi +180gb +180the vikes are pretty clear favorites everywhere i look. packers fanboys should be loading up if they truly believe the opinions expressed itt.

 

[cvnpoka]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

Well lets just call the season now. I mean thats what Vegas said...and they have never been wrong on the odds to win right?Just a tip...the odds to win...are not always who they think will win. They design things to make money...to influence how betting will go to best make them a profit.

heres a tip for you, just bc a team beat the odds, just bc the "books lost," doesnt mean they were wrong.and i do think its pertinent what the odds are. you are random guy on message board saying the pack are the best team. sportsbooks are billion dollar industry with millions riding on finding the proper odds. with a team of researchers and analyzers working to find the best lines. i dont think its unreasonable to side with them.

now, maybe you do your own analysis and have layed boatloads on this. in that case, i would take what you say quite a bit more seriosly.

 

[Gargoylez]

A- its for one year. Just one

B- they would be trading away a starting WR to get him- Jones and Nelson would see the same amount of PT either way.

C- Marshall is a by low candidate, the Packers are unlikely to win their division, a player like Marshall could make their offense strong enough to overcome the holes they have on defense.

I disagree. The Packers have a championship-caliber offense, IMO. It's the defense that probably needs some work. But even then, this is a team that can realistically compete for the NFC North as constructed.

I didn't say it was impossible- but do you honestly think that the Packers are better than the Vikings or Bears right now going into the season? if things fall their way they could win the division- but thats probably only going to to happen ~15-20% of the time (off the top of my head) and thats with Detroit just sucking. Marshall on that team could turn them into an Arizona like offense but with a better running game.

Yes. And I think their WRs corps is deeper than any other in the league. With Jennings, Nelson and Jones in tow, this offense should be humming along for years to come. I think the Packers are the best team in the division right now.

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

and Vegas was dead on with Arizona last year..........I'd be very disappointed and surprised if the Pack don't win the division.

 

[FUBAR]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

Well lets just call the season now. I mean thats what Vegas said...and they have never been wrong on the odds to win right?Just a tip...the odds to win...are not always who they think will win. They design things to make money...to influence how betting will go to best make them a profit.

heres a tip for you, just bc a team beat the odds, just bc the "books lost," doesnt mean they were wrong.and i do think its pertinent what the odds are. you are random guy on message board saying the pack are the best team. sportsbooks are billion dollar industry with millions riding on finding the proper odds. with a team of researchers and analyzers working to find the best lines. i dont think its unreasonable to side with them.

now, maybe you do your own analysis and have layed boatloads on this. in that case, i would take what you say quite a bit more seriosly.

And what exactly do you think the "proper odds" are based on?FWIW, I expect to see Green Bay in the playoffs this year. If they aren't, it'll probably be due to injury or something else surprising.

 

[VTjkru]

vegas disagrees quite a bit. vikes are about 1.5x as likely to win the division despite playing a tougher schedule according to most sites. some have them closer to 2x. bears are close to pack but 3 of the 5 sites i checked had the bears as favorites over pack.

and Vegas was dead on with Arizona last year..........I'd be very disappointed and surprised if the Pack don't win the division.

I believe Vegas more often than not but "1.5x as likely to win" is not "disagreeing quite a bit" nor is that even correct. Just a quick glance at sportsbook has these lines:Chicago Bears +180Detroit Lions +1400Green Bay Packers +180Minnesota Vikings +150 That's very marginal...Now the AFC east, that's a division that Vegas believes in one team a lot more than any other: Buffalo Bills +1000Miami Dolphins +900New England Patriots -700New York Jets +800

 

[Sabertooth]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

you think he'd like a do-over on that one?

No. Moss wiped his butt on the goalpost at Lambeau. Not every team is willing to sell their souls.