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On another board, a guy posted this McNabb trade rumor is floating around Philly radio. Eagles fan, is an actual rumor or just talk show speculation. A quick search yielded nothing from the normal gossip mongering places.

 
Trading McNabb would be a HUGE mistake and won't happen. McNabb >>>> Garcia

 
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Well if anything crazy like this did happen I gotta hope and pray that the Eagles would get a lot more then just the #2 overall.

Quinn vs Mcnabb...

Not to mention the 3.8 million dollar cap hit the birds would take, not sure a trade like this could even happen

 
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It was definitely on the radio. I was listening to SportsTalk 950 and they were talking about it this morning. And all of the idiots calling in, along with the two hosts, thought that it would be a steal for the Eagles if they could also sign Garcia to a deal.

What a bunch of idiots. Yeah, McNabb has choked just like Manning in the playoffs, but the Eagles have been a MUCH better team since McNabb became their QB. The guy was THE BEST QB in the NFL this season until he got hurt.

 
As a metro Detroiter I'm calling out: :shrug:

There is no way this will happen! This is one very bad rumor.

The only thing that will happen with the number 2 pick is the Lions trade it and move down a few spots for extra picks or Detroit will be taking OT Joe Thomas or DE Jammal Anderson in the first round this year. There is another very slim possibility that between now and the draft that the Lions learn that KJ's injured foot is not healing and that he might miss 2007 then they would possibly draft Adrian Peterson. According to the Lions insider Tom the Killer Kowalski all indications are that KJ will be ready to go by training camp.

 
It was definitely on the radio. I was listening to SportsTalk 950 and they were talking about it this morning. And all of the idiots calling in, along with the two hosts, thought that it would be a steal for the Eagles if they could also sign Garcia to a deal. What a bunch of idiots. Yeah, McNabb has choked just like Manning in the playoffs, but the Eagles have been a MUCH better team since McNabb became their QB. The guy was THE BEST QB in the NFL this season until he got hurt.
Remember these are Philly fans...they probably booed him when he tore up his knee. What a city to live in, McNabb IS the Philadelphia Eagles...and they want to deal him for a draft pick and go with 208 year old Jeff GarciaSheesh!
 
It was definitely on the radio. I was listening to SportsTalk 950 and they were talking about it this morning. And all of the idiots calling in, along with the two hosts, thought that it would be a steal for the Eagles if they could also sign Garcia to a deal. What a bunch of idiots. Yeah, McNabb has choked just like Manning in the playoffs, but the Eagles have been a MUCH better team since McNabb became their QB. The guy was THE BEST QB in the NFL this season until he got hurt.
Remember these are Philly fans...they probably booed him when he tore up his knee. What a city to live in, McNabb IS the Philadelphia Eagles...and they want to deal him for a draft pick and go with 208 year old Jeff GarciaSheesh!
Thats how its played up by the media but its not true. Check the other trade McNabb thread for a link to a poll that shows over 90% support for McNabb as QB.
 
I lived in the Philly area for a number of years and if you have not lived there you just don't understand. These fans just have a lot of pride in their team. I did not understand this until I watched the movie Invincible. This will give you some background of why the Eagles fans act the way they do.

 
I could see Minny make a bigger push to trade for him than Detroit...doubt Philly would trade him, no matter what the offer.

 
McNabb is a 30 year old QB coming off ACL surgery. He most likely wont be ready to start the season. It seems that most here dont understand trading in the NFL. The Eagles getting the #2 from Detroit would be about right.

There are no more Herschel Walker deals to be made in the NFL.

Also, those saying that the Eagles would not want to take the cap hit of $3.8M, the 3.8 plus whatever they pay Garcia would still be less than McNabb is making.

There is a lot of talk in Philly that McNabb is unhappy about the way he is being treated (Reid not letting him travel with the team to NO. teammates openly lobbying for Garcia, etc.). McNabb could easily talk his way out of Philly.

I would think Minnesota would be more likely with Philly getting the #7 pick and another 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 
McNabb is a 30 year old QB coming off ACL surgery. He most likely wont be ready to start the season. It seems that most here dont understand trading in the NFL. The Eagles getting the #2 from Detroit would be about right.There are no more Herschel Walker deals to be made in the NFL.Also, those saying that the Eagles would not want to take the cap hit of $3.8M, the 3.8 plus whatever they pay Garcia would still be less than McNabb is making.There is a lot of talk in Philly that McNabb is unhappy about the way he is being treated (Reid not letting him travel with the team to NO. teammates openly lobbying for Garcia, etc.). McNabb could easily talk his way out of Philly.I would think Minnesota would be more likely with Philly getting the #7 pick and another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Trading away a proven Pro Bowl caliber QB and taking a cap hit for the privilege of over-paying the #2 pick and going with a 37 year old QB. :eek:
 
It is what it is said:
McNabb is a 30 year old QB coming off ACL surgery. He most likely wont be ready to start the season. It seems that most here dont understand trading in the NFL. The Eagles getting the #2 from Detroit would be about right.There are no more Herschel Walker deals to be made in the NFL.Also, those saying that the Eagles would not want to take the cap hit of $3.8M, the 3.8 plus whatever they pay Garcia would still be less than McNabb is making.There is a lot of talk in Philly that McNabb is unhappy about the way he is being treated (Reid not letting him travel with the team to NO. teammates openly lobbying for Garcia, etc.). McNabb could easily talk his way out of Philly.I would think Minnesota would be more likely with Philly getting the #7 pick and another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
:blackdot: If the Eagles are actually considering this, I would have to believe they are targeting the WR Calvin Johnson, with all the difficulties they have been having with that position (Owens, Stallworth appears 2b leaving).
There is even less chance of this happening than McNabb being traded. Eagles believe in their WR corp right now and if anything would resign Stallworth if they needed more firepower.
 
It is what it is said:
McNabb is a 30 year old QB coming off ACL surgery. He most likely wont be ready to start the season. It seems that most here dont understand trading in the NFL. The Eagles getting the #2 from Detroit would be about right.There are no more Herschel Walker deals to be made in the NFL.Also, those saying that the Eagles would not want to take the cap hit of $3.8M, the 3.8 plus whatever they pay Garcia would still be less than McNabb is making.There is a lot of talk in Philly that McNabb is unhappy about the way he is being treated (Reid not letting him travel with the team to NO. teammates openly lobbying for Garcia, etc.). McNabb could easily talk his way out of Philly.I would think Minnesota would be more likely with Philly getting the #7 pick and another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
:blackdot: If the Eagles are actually considering this, I would have to believe they are targeting the WR Calvin Johnson, with all the difficulties they have been having with that position (Owens, Stallworth appears 2b leaving).
Wouldn't that be great! McNabb throwing to Calvin? Oh wait... :P
 
makes perfect sense. Garcia has, maybe, a year left in him and McNabb is 30.

why not? the Eagles would be foolish not to do this.

 
makes perfect sense. Garcia has, maybe, a year left in him and McNabb is 30.why not? the Eagles would be foolish not to do this.
I don't know about being foolish.The 30 year old theory holds true to RBs, not QBs. A QB can still be effective into his mid 30's.Still a very interesting thought here. It's not as farfetched as people would think, but the key thing would be getting Garcia signed. You could not pull this deal off if a deal with Garcia wasn't reached first.
 
makes perfect sense. Garcia has, maybe, a year left in him and McNabb is 30.why not? the Eagles would be foolish not to do this.
I don't know about being foolish.The 30 year old theory holds true to RBs, not QBs. A QB can still be effective into his mid 30's.Still a very interesting thought here. It's not as farfetched as people would think, but the key thing would be getting Garcia signed. You could not pull this deal off if a deal with Garcia wasn't reached first.
I would imagine that if this were true, Garcia would be resigned first and we would hear of that.
 
So in other words it is either a completely bogus rumor, or the Lions want to make people think if they want Quinn they have to move up to #2 to get him.

 
Not that this is ever going to happen, but it would it be hilarious. Adding Donovan McNabb to a roster of prima donnas and crybabies would make for some pretty great headlines. :bag:

 
It is what it is said:
McNabb is a 30 year old QB coming off ACL surgery. He most likely wont be ready to start the season. It seems that most here dont understand trading in the NFL. The Eagles getting the #2 from Detroit would be about right.There are no more Herschel Walker deals to be made in the NFL.Also, those saying that the Eagles would not want to take the cap hit of $3.8M, the 3.8 plus whatever they pay Garcia would still be less than McNabb is making.There is a lot of talk in Philly that McNabb is unhappy about the way he is being treated (Reid not letting him travel with the team to NO. teammates openly lobbying for Garcia, etc.). McNabb could easily talk his way out of Philly.I would think Minnesota would be more likely with Philly getting the #7 pick and another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
:bag: If the Eagles are actually considering this, I would have to believe they are targeting the WR Calvin Johnson, with all the difficulties they have been having with that position (Owens, Stallworth appears 2b leaving).
The Eagles have some sense and have built their club in a pretty similar way to the Patriots. There is absolutely, positively no way they would draft a WR with the 1.02 pick in the draft. With their business model, I seriously doubt they even want the #2 pick in the draft.
 
makes perfect sense. Garcia has, maybe, a year left in him and McNabb is 30.why not? the Eagles would be foolish not to do this.
I don't know about being foolish.The 30 year old theory holds true to RBs, not QBs. A QB can still be effective into his mid 30's.Still a very interesting thought here. It's not as farfetched as people would think, but the key thing would be getting Garcia signed. You could not pull this deal off if a deal with Garcia wasn't reached first.
i was being facetious :thumbup:no way would i cut loose McNabb in favor of a guy who had a hot half-a-season. :shrug: no chance.
 
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
 
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Please, if the Lions thought they could get McNabb with the 1.2 pick they'd fall over themselves running to the podium to announce the trade.
 
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Uh-oh... here come the Lions....look out NFC Norris. This might be the best news I've seen about them since the Furrey signing.
 
makes perfect sense. Garcia has, maybe, a year left in him and McNabb is 30.why not? the Eagles would be foolish not to do this.
Eagles would be smart to do it but no way in hell Detroit would be dumb enough to give up that much for Mcnabb. If you say 2.02 ok no way 1.02
 
Like I stated yesterday guys, It's not gonna happen.

The Lions absolutely need to address OL, DE & MLB!

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McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
scratcher said:
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Please, if the Lions thought they could get McNabb with the 1.2 pick they'd fall over themselves running to the podium to announce the trade.
I don't think so.Has Mike Martz ever had a high-profile QB? Meaning a guy that was high profile before he got hold of him? I think Martz thinks he can take almost any late round pick, or grocery-bagger and turn them into a Pro Bowl QB.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
scratcher said:
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Please, if the Lions thought they could get McNabb with the 1.2 pick they'd fall over themselves running to the podium to announce the trade.
I don't think so.Has Mike Martz ever had a high-profile QB? Meaning a guy that was high profile before he got hold of him? I think Martz thinks he can take almost any late round pick, or grocery-bagger and turn them into a Pro Bowl QB.
WTF does Martz have to do with anything? Last I heard, he wasn't the HC.McNabb is a top 5 QB in this league (Personally, I'd only take Brady, Manning or Palmer over him), he's on more commercials than anyone not named Manning and he's a marketable face that the Lions haven't had since Sanders retired. I haven't even mentioned he's locked up for several more years so they don't have to worry about losing him.

There's a reason franchise QB's never hit the FA market, every team know how much they're worth, including inept organizantions like the Lions.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
scratcher said:
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Please, if the Lions thought they could get McNabb with the 1.2 pick they'd fall over themselves running to the podium to announce the trade.
I don't think so.Has Mike Martz ever had a high-profile QB? Meaning a guy that was high profile before he got hold of him? I think Martz thinks he can take almost any late round pick, or grocery-bagger and turn them into a Pro Bowl QB.
WTF does Martz have to do with anything? Last I heard, he wasn't the HC.McNabb is a top 5 QB in this league (Personally, I'd only take Brady, Manning or Palmer over him), he's on more commercials than anyone not named Manning and he's a marketable face that the Lions haven't had since Sanders retired. I haven't even mentioned he's locked up for several more years so they don't have to worry about losing him.

There's a reason franchise QB's never hit the FA market, every team know how much they're worth, including inept organizantions like the Lions.
You may be right. I forgot about how many commercials McNabb did.Copnsider my mind changed.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
scratcher said:
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

McNabb trade rumor gets chuckle from Lions

No, no, no. Donovan McNabb is not coming to the Detroit Lions.

Most fans who are knowledgeable about the Lions situation -- not to mention the NFL salary cap -- are well aware there's no chance the Lions are going to trade their second overall pick for McNabb. Still, since the rumor is making the rounds on AOL, it needs to be addressed.

A call to the Lions, just to make sure, drew a hearty laugh. While the Lions respect McNabb as a quarterback, that's not one of the many positions they're hoping to address in the off-season.

So, no, it's not going to happen. The writer was merely speculating about what he thinks the Lions "should'' do, not reporting any info that talks, internal or otherwise, have actually happened.
So much for that.
Please, if the Lions thought they could get McNabb with the 1.2 pick they'd fall over themselves running to the podium to announce the trade.
I don't think so.Has Mike Martz ever had a high-profile QB? Meaning a guy that was high profile before he got hold of him? I think Martz thinks he can take almost any late round pick, or grocery-bagger and turn them into a Pro Bowl QB.
WTF does Martz have to do with anything? Last I heard, he wasn't the HC.McNabb is a top 5 QB in this league (Personally, I'd only take Brady, Manning or Palmer over him), he's on more commercials than anyone not named Manning and he's a marketable face that the Lions haven't had since Sanders retired. I haven't even mentioned he's locked up for several more years so they don't have to worry about losing him.

There's a reason franchise QB's never hit the FA market, every team know how much they're worth, including inept organizantions like the Lions.
You may be right. I forgot about how many commercials McNabb did.Copnsider my mind changed.
:rolleyes: Yeah, the Lions would hate to have a player that was actually marketable for a change. My point, which I'm sure you already know, was that the Lions haven't had a face to their team in ages. Who would you rather spend your hard earned money to watch: McNabb or Jon Kitna? Heck McNabb or Quinn (or Russell)? Lions fans would kill a puppy for a QB the caliber of McNabb.

 
First, I think you discount Martz too easily. He's not your average OC, in terms of influence. His presence matters, IMO. How much? Well, who knows. But he has proven he can score points with a QB who doesn't have the 1st round pedigree.

Second, you know what's marketable? Winning. You get a good team together, and all of a sudden, anyone is marketable. They'll fill the stadium by putting a good product on the field. YOu don't have to much. This isn't soccer, for pete's sake.

By the way, this isn't to say that the Lions shouldn't do it, if given the chance. If I were running them, and got this offer, I'd take it too. I'm just disagreeing with your theory that the Lions would jump all over it. I wonder if they would.

 
With what happened with Culpepper this offseason, why on Earth would any franchise, even one run by Matt Millen, give up a potential young, franchise QB (or another franchise player) for McNabb without any indication he's going to be healthy?

McNabb's my boy...but no way I make that deal if I'm Detroit.

 
With what happened with Culpepper this offseason, why on Earth would any franchise, even one run by Matt Millen, give up a potential young, franchise QB (or another franchise player) for McNabb without any indication he's going to be healthy?McNabb's my boy...but no way I make that deal if I'm Detroit.
On the flip side, you have Carson Palmer who came back just fine. I think the fact Culpepper wasn't that good to begin with was more a reason for his suckatude this season than the injury was.
 
If you look back at the track record of players over 30 coming back from an ACL it's not very good. I think more than anything age is a determining factor in coming back from an ACL tear. Palmer was 26 last year when he tore his ACL, Culpepper was 29 when he tore his, and McNabb was 30.

 
If you look back at the track record of players over 30 coming back from an ACL it's not very good. I think more than anything age is a determining factor in coming back from an ACL tear. Palmer was 26 last year when he tore his ACL, Culpepper was 29 when he tore his, and McNabb was 30.
ACL's aren't that big of a deal for QB's, especially these days. Culpepper tore 3 ligaments, not just the ACL.
 

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