Schrute
Footballguy
Given that these "sources" were apparently dead wrong on a pretty significant issue, I'd be curious to know who they are. Or if they exist.
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Rumor: Cutler out for year (1 Viewer)
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
You didn't have anyone else you could drop to pick up Clemens?I would have wanted to pick up Clemens anyway, in your shoes...Couldn't drop a kicker until further news came out?
madd futher
Footballguy
Yes I could have dropped a kicker I suppose, But Cecil referred more than once to his Bronco sources saying Cutler was done (listen to podcast), and if anyone knows what is going on in Denver, it is Lammey. So i took it as a Lammey golden nugget, and pulled the trigger.
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
After listening to the Audible, Cecil said his sources told him Cutler would be "out for the year, we could definitely see if that plays out, I highly doubt if we see Cutler again this year, according to the early reports".
Note, he said "according to the early reports".
Sources are not always right, no matter who and no matter how good.
Note, he said "according to the early reports".
Sources are not always right, no matter who and no matter how good.
madd futher
Footballguy
I take that to mean you dont think Cecil should have to reimburse me for my league entry fee?
easy there - FBG reported Javon Walker was going to be inactive before anyone else (including Schefter). FBG also reported that Selvin Young was going to start in last week's MNF before anyone else... Ive been at Broncos camp behind the scenes with Cecil, and I can assure you his sources exist.
madd futher
Footballguy
I was just kidding about re-imbursing the entry fee - unless you guys insist. I know that over the course of the season your insights have been a great help in terms of my management of my team.
Sometimes jumping the gun based on early source information really pays off............just not THIS time. (Unless Clemens puts up better numbers the rest of the way. In which case I will thank you guys for the early positive report on Clemens.)
Bloom: please, please tell me I'm gonna be ok with Clemens and Schaub!
Sometimes jumping the gun based on early source information really pays off............just not THIS time. (Unless Clemens puts up better numbers the rest of the way. In which case I will thank you guys for the early positive report on Clemens.)
Bloom: please, please tell me I'm gonna be ok with Clemens and Schaub!
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
A very deep bone bruise could also sideline JC for
an extended period of time.
I like the kid, I hope he doesn't miss too much time.
an extended period of time.
I like the kid, I hope he doesn't miss too much time.
I actually think there was a much bigger statistical day there for Clemens yesterday, but he was victimized by some drops. I was very impressed with his athleticism outside of the pocket, and I think he'll be just fine. I also like Schaub once Andre Johnson is back. Take a look at his week 1 and 2 numbers with Johnson in the lineup, and then remember that those were blowouts and the passing O was only opened up for 3ish quarters. You also have the emergence of Walter as a possession receiver and Davis as a deep threat since then (remember when we thought one of Andre's problems was that he had no #2 to distract coverage?)Youll be fine, except for next week, unless you have a 3rd QB.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler caught a break Monday: He doesn't have the hairline fracture in his left leg he feared.
An MRI exam was negative, but coach Mike Shanahan said he didn't know if Cutler would practice much this week or be under center Sunday at Kansas City.
"He doesn't have a stress fracture, which is a positive," Shanahan said. "The X-rays were negative, the MRI was negative. So, we'll see how sore he is. Right now he's quite sore. And we'll get a chance to see how he feels on Wednesday."
The Broncos felt like they finally caught a break when Cutler's MRI came back negative.
"Shoot, that's our franchise," wide receiver Brandon Marshall said. "So, we're happy that he's here and he's going to be with us for the rest of the season and it's just a little sore, nothing the ice tub couldn't handle."
An MRI exam was negative, but coach Mike Shanahan said he didn't know if Cutler would practice much this week or be under center Sunday at Kansas City.
"He doesn't have a stress fracture, which is a positive," Shanahan said. "The X-rays were negative, the MRI was negative. So, we'll see how sore he is. Right now he's quite sore. And we'll get a chance to see how he feels on Wednesday."
The Broncos felt like they finally caught a break when Cutler's MRI came back negative.
"Shoot, that's our franchise," wide receiver Brandon Marshall said. "So, we're happy that he's here and he's going to be with us for the rest of the season and it's just a little sore, nothing the ice tub couldn't handle."
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
And you are bragging about it?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
wow. seriously uncalled for. it (may have) turned out differently than initial prognosis by some cecil spoke to.. so he must have made it up.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
That is bushleague.
Karma is a biznatch....
Listen to THE AUDIBLE radio show / podcast, much? He mentions it on there.
Sup_Yo
Footballguy
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler doesn't have the hairline fracture in his left leg he feared.
An MRI exam Monday was negative, but coach Mike Shanahan said he didn't know if Cutler would practice much this week or be under center Sunday at Kansas City.
"He doesn't have a stress fracture, which is a positive," Shanahan said. "The X-rays were negative, the MRI was negative. So, we'll see how sore he is. Right now he's quite sore. And we'll get a chance to see how he feels on Wednesday."
Cutler took a helmet to his lower leg, which was badly bruised, in the first half of the Broncos' 44-7 loss at Detroit on Sunday. He was carted off the field and although immediate X-rays were negative, Cutler said he feared his leg was broken.
"You never know for sure until you get an MRI if there's a stress fracture," Shanahan said. "There's no stress fracture. There is a bruise. It's badly bruised. We'll see what the recovery time is."
Defensive end Cory Redding dived at Cutler helmet-first at the end of the play in which Shaun Rogers sacked the second-year quarterback. Shanahan said he didn't see the hit, but "if he did do something illegal, obviously, he'll get fined for it."
Cutler was the 11th pick in last year's draft out of Vanderbilt, the last of the "Big Three" quarterbacks chosen behind Arizona's Matt Leinert and Tennessee's Vince Young. He took over the starter's job from Jake Plummer with five weeks left in the season and became the first rookie in league history to throw for multiple touchdowns in each of his first four games.
Patrick Ramsey replaced Cutler and would start against the Chiefs if Cutler can't go. The Broncos would have to sign another quarterback in that case, and one possibility is practice squad player Darrell Hackney.
Also, X-rays were negative on wide receiver Glenn Martinez (ribs), who has gotten plenty of playing time with No. 1 receiver Javon Walker recovering from knee surgery.
The Broncos (3-5) have been hit by a spate of injuries. Last week they placed their career receptions leader Rod Smith (hip) and top draft pick Jarvis Moss (leg), a defensive end, on injured reserve, where they joined end Ebenezer Ekuban, center Tom Nalen, guard Ben Hamilton, linebacker Warrick Holdman and tight ends Stephen Alexander and Nate Jackson.
An MRI exam Monday was negative, but coach Mike Shanahan said he didn't know if Cutler would practice much this week or be under center Sunday at Kansas City.
"He doesn't have a stress fracture, which is a positive," Shanahan said. "The X-rays were negative, the MRI was negative. So, we'll see how sore he is. Right now he's quite sore. And we'll get a chance to see how he feels on Wednesday."
Cutler took a helmet to his lower leg, which was badly bruised, in the first half of the Broncos' 44-7 loss at Detroit on Sunday. He was carted off the field and although immediate X-rays were negative, Cutler said he feared his leg was broken.
"You never know for sure until you get an MRI if there's a stress fracture," Shanahan said. "There's no stress fracture. There is a bruise. It's badly bruised. We'll see what the recovery time is."
Defensive end Cory Redding dived at Cutler helmet-first at the end of the play in which Shaun Rogers sacked the second-year quarterback. Shanahan said he didn't see the hit, but "if he did do something illegal, obviously, he'll get fined for it."
Cutler was the 11th pick in last year's draft out of Vanderbilt, the last of the "Big Three" quarterbacks chosen behind Arizona's Matt Leinert and Tennessee's Vince Young. He took over the starter's job from Jake Plummer with five weeks left in the season and became the first rookie in league history to throw for multiple touchdowns in each of his first four games.
Patrick Ramsey replaced Cutler and would start against the Chiefs if Cutler can't go. The Broncos would have to sign another quarterback in that case, and one possibility is practice squad player Darrell Hackney.
Also, X-rays were negative on wide receiver Glenn Martinez (ribs), who has gotten plenty of playing time with No. 1 receiver Javon Walker recovering from knee surgery.
The Broncos (3-5) have been hit by a spate of injuries. Last week they placed their career receptions leader Rod Smith (hip) and top draft pick Jarvis Moss (leg), a defensive end, on injured reserve, where they joined end Ebenezer Ekuban, center Tom Nalen, guard Ben Hamilton, linebacker Warrick Holdman and tight ends Stephen Alexander and Nate Jackson.
WookieBooger
Footballguy
No I do not. I found it today though.My point is this: that type of info, even if only a rumor, used to be sent via E-mail to paid members. I received no such notice.just expressing a little disappointment with the service today. :ForestGump: That's all I got to say about that :ForestGump:
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
The Broncos certainly caught a break when the MRI came back negative. The information I talked about was post locker room xray, and pre-MRI.
Cutler is in a lot of pain. The kid is tough, and has a high pain threshold, but that hit was brutal. Based on that there were certain people close to the team that felt he was lost for the season.
Wednesday will be an interesting day out at Dove Valley!
Cutler is in a lot of pain. The kid is tough, and has a high pain threshold, but that hit was brutal. Based on that there were certain people close to the team that felt he was lost for the season.
Wednesday will be an interesting day out at Dove Valley!
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I don't own Cutler but I agree with this. FBG's wasted no time letting us know about a rumor being reported by another source-yet when a rumor is being started by a FBG staffer, we get ZERO notice? I appreciate this site and in the grand scheme of things, this isn't a big deal so long as it doesn't happen again. This site is awesome but that doesn't mean they didn't drop the ball on this issue.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Meh, until you have an official source that's linked isn't it all kind of speculative?I have no problem with Cecil's; "Based on that there were certain people close to the team that felt he was lost for the season." I trust his speculation more than the speculation of ESPN.... but I don't believe any of it until someone is able to link an actual source.Keep up the good work Cecil and keep us up to date with which way the wind is blowing on DEN matters. Most of us can decide for ourselves what is news and what is rumor and what is ESPN.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
If you don't trust his sources, or that he has any, then disregard what he says. That's pretty easy.I don't know any NFL insider that hasn't been dead wrong on something or another. Cecil is pretty good, just don't expect him to be purple jesus.
pinda
Footballguy
wow this is pretty harsh, you guys are chastising a guy who is close to the organization and heard some talk about Cutler being out for the year.. He reported it as is, that he heard it from inside the organization. He didn't confirm it, he didn't say it was 100%, he said it's what he heard.
I think the only ones that need to change the way they do things are the guys that are complaining. You guys should figure out that a rumor/rumbling is not a confirmation. Wait for the coach to confirm it. But in the mean time, for guys that can go and pick up Ramsey if need be, or trade for a QB should do so with the knowledge that it's an unconfirmed report.
Keep up the great work Cecil.
I think the only ones that need to change the way they do things are the guys that are complaining. You guys should figure out that a rumor/rumbling is not a confirmation. Wait for the coach to confirm it. But in the mean time, for guys that can go and pick up Ramsey if need be, or trade for a QB should do so with the knowledge that it's an unconfirmed report.
Keep up the great work Cecil.
Yesterday, Ramsey converted three 3rd-and-10s, a 3rd-and-12, a 3rd-and-13, and a 3rd-and-16. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady, but let's give him a couple of weeks before throwing him under the bus, here.Ramsey is fairly horrible.
From what I hear, Cutler himself thought he was gone for the season. Maybe Cutler is no longer a reliable source for injuries to Cutler, too. Or maybe Cutler just doesn't exist? I don't know, I was never very good at ontological questions.
If Cutler's leg broke in a forest, and no one could hear it, would it make a sound?Yesterday, Ramsey converted three 3rd-and-10s, a 3rd-and-12, a 3rd-and-13, and a 3rd-and-16. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady, but let's give him a couple of weeks before throwing him under the bus, here.Ramsey is fairly horrible.
From what I hear, Cutler himself thought he was gone for the season. Maybe Cutler is no longer a reliable source for injuries to Cutler, too. Or maybe Cutler just doesn't exist? I don't know, I was never very good at ontological questions.
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Well, the only thing of it is that it got picked up by a Denver sports radio station and they started reporting it like actual news. Now FBG has egg on their faces.
FBG is becoming more and more like what ProFootballTalk used to be with all the speculation and rumors flying around.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Ramsey will get every WR killed if he has to start for any large amount of time. Marshall and Martinez both went down due to Ramsey hanging it Sunday and nearly got both killed. Also he apparently is stupid and doesn't know how to take speed off of his ball for short and intermediate routes... I never understood how someone could throw bullets on those and never realize that it isn't helping his WR's. Perhaps he took one too many hits in Washington because he was a bonehead Sunday.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I'm gonna have to call rose colored glasses on this one. The game was well out of hand at that point and the Lions D wasn't going full force, yet Ramsey still found it neccesary to try and kill Marshall and Martinez either by throwing 100 mph on a 3 yard throw or overthrowing forcing his receiver to go get it and leaving them exposed. Ramsey is an ok fill in but having him in will not lead to wins and probably should lead to further concerns of Denver WR's.Yesterday, Ramsey converted three 3rd-and-10s, a 3rd-and-12, a 3rd-and-13, and a 3rd-and-16. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady, but let's give him a couple of weeks before throwing him under the bus, here.Ramsey is fairly horrible.
From what I hear, Cutler himself thought he was gone for the season. Maybe Cutler is no longer a reliable source for injuries to Cutler, too. Or maybe Cutler just doesn't exist? I don't know, I was never very good at ontological questions.
fatness
Footballguy
I agree with you. It's the same criticism leveled at PFT for reporting rumors/rumblings/what-I-heard as exactly what they are. Some people just don't want to read and understand what they're reading, they just want to be spoonfed "the truth" --- before anyone else gets it, of course.
BusMan
Footballguy
This is a message board, not the Associated Press.
Texican
Footballguy
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that early indications are that Jay Cutler has a good chance to play this week.
Schefter made sure to say it's early in the process, and Cutler still has a ways to go. But he's known as a tough guy and has recovered faster than expected since Sunday's injury.
Schefter made sure to say it's early in the process, and Cutler still has a ways to go. But he's known as a tough guy and has recovered faster than expected since Sunday's injury.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
HOOORAY!!! Now I can continue to make the absolute worst choice from among him Rivers and Griese. Then again there was no right choice this past week...But seriously, even as a Charger fan I've enjoyed watching Cutler, so it's good that he isn't seriously injured. I'll be rooting for that when the Broncos are more of a threat.
Just kidding.
