Rumour - Parcells to the Lions? (1 Viewer)

[MSULions]

I don't think Parcells wants to rebuild another team. He's too old. He'll stick it out in Dallas for another year, or maybe two, and then hang it up.

The Lions don't need to rebuild, they need to be coached.

they've been rebuilt for the most part already...they need someone to make the pieces at hand work together, not an intractable twit trying to pound all the round pegs into square holes like Mooch.

 

[MSULions]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

This has been discussed before, but there is plenty to back up that argument:Fords shell out mad cash for players, staff, and facilities

Lions have some of the best facilities in the league.

Lions have an extremely devoted fan base

Lions have a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that is young and needs direction

NFL Coaches are inherantly egomaniacs...they want to be the man that turned a losing franchise around.

Fords hell out mad cash....

 

[MSULions]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

you have no frigging idea what you are talking about...so just stop it already.

 

[Payne]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

This has been discussed before, but there is plenty to back up that argument:Fords shell out mad cash for players, staff, and facilities

Lions have some of the best facilities in the league.

Lions have an extremely devoted fan base

Lions have a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that is young and needs direction

NFL Coaches are inherantly egomaniacs...they want to be the man that turned a losing franchise around.

Fords hell out mad cash....

But be prepared to get slaughtered by those who think they know all.

 

[MSULions]

You can say the exact same things about Detroit as you can say about St. Louis, Baltimore, DC, Houston, Oakland, etc.....however, Metro Detroit is thriving, and places like Royal Oak have been sought after destinations for years now. Hell, i'd walk around Detroit at night long before I would Oakland, Baltimore or DC.

 

[Payne]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

I live less than a mile from Detroit.

I'll take my neighborhood over yours any day.

Detroit, itself, has some horrible neighborhoods. Nobody will deny that.

But it also has some very nice areas as well as some outstanding suburbs.

 

[stevejohnson]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

I live less than a mile from Detroit.

I'll take my neighborhood over yours any day.

Detroit, itself, has some horrible neighborhoods. Nobody will deny that.

But it also has some very nice areas as well as some outstanding suburbs.

I went to college with a guy from the Detroit burbs. He couldn't wait to get out of that slum! He married a girl from the northeast and never went back! When the most famous person from your town is Slim Shady (and even he moved to LA and didn't go back), you know you have a problem!

I'm not here to argue how crappy Detroit is, just to say that Parcells is NOT coming so get over it!

Hey Payne, good luck in your Detroit paradise. Hopefully you won't get car jacked on the way home from work tonight!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

This has been discussed before, but there is plenty to back up that argument:Fords shell out mad cash for players, staff, and facilities

Lions have some of the best facilities in the league.

Lions have an extremely devoted fan base

Lions have a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that is young and needs direction

NFL Coaches are inherantly egomaniacs...they want to be the man that turned a losing franchise around.

Fords hell out mad cash....

But be prepared to get slaughtered by those who think they know all.

I'm not looking to kill anyone. I'm just saying that Detroit, as a city, isn't San Diego or Miami in terms of appeal as a place to live. Also, with the fans in mutiny, staging marches to protest what's going on with the team, as well as glaring deficiencies on the OL, at QB, and basically on much of the defensive side of the ball, I wouldn't exactly call it many coaches dream job, that's all.For some coaches, ANY NFL job is going to be a dream job, though, so I'm sure they'll get someone decent.

 

[MSULions]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

This has been discussed before, but there is plenty to back up that argument:Fords shell out mad cash for players, staff, and facilities

Lions have some of the best facilities in the league.

Lions have an extremely devoted fan base

Lions have a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that is young and needs direction

NFL Coaches are inherantly egomaniacs...they want to be the man that turned a losing franchise around.

Fords hell out mad cash....

But be prepared to get slaughtered by those who think they know all.

I'm not looking to kill anyone. I'm just saying that Detroit, as a city, isn't San Diego or Miami in terms of appeal as a place to live. Also, with the fans in mutiny, staging marches to protest what's going on with the team, as well as glaring deficiencies on the OL, at QB, and basically on much of the defensive side of the ball, I wouldn't exactly call it many coaches dream job, that's all.For some coaches, ANY NFL job is going to be a dream job, though, so I'm sure they'll get someone decent.

Like Pittsburgh is a paradise

It's a stupid argument....Houston, St. Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, DC, Dallas and plenty of other NFL cities have terrible slums and lots of crime...plenty of places are colder and play outdoors....etc etc etc....anyone who thinks that really matters to a prospective NFL coach is fooling themselves.

It's a nice drive from Grosse Pointe down Jefferson to Ford Field....no worries there.

 

[Al Czervik]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

I live less than a mile from Detroit.

I'll take my neighborhood over yours any day.

Detroit, itself, has some horrible neighborhoods. Nobody will deny that.

But it also has some very nice areas as well as some outstanding suburbs.

I went to college with a guy from the Detroit burbs. He couldn't wait to get out of that slum! He married a girl from the northeast and never went back! When the most famous person from your town is Slim Shady (and even he moved to LA and didn't go back), you know you have a problem!

I'm not here to argue how crappy Detroit is, just to say that Parcells is NOT coming so get over it!

Hey Payne, good luck in your Detroit paradise. Hopefully you won't get car jacked on the way home from work tonight!

New guy acting like an ###. I guess you are the type to make friends fast. Way to join up and start pissing right away.

Each time you post something new, it confirms how much you don't know.

 

[stevejohnson]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

I live less than a mile from Detroit.

I'll take my neighborhood over yours any day.

Detroit, itself, has some horrible neighborhoods. Nobody will deny that.

But it also has some very nice areas as well as some outstanding suburbs.

I went to college with a guy from the Detroit burbs. He couldn't wait to get out of that slum! He married a girl from the northeast and never went back! When the most famous person from your town is Slim Shady (and even he moved to LA and didn't go back), you know you have a problem!

I'm not here to argue how crappy Detroit is, just to say that Parcells is NOT coming so get over it!

Hey Payne, good luck in your Detroit paradise. Hopefully you won't get car jacked on the way home from work tonight!

New guy acting like an ###. I guess you are the type to make friend fast. Way to join up and start pissing right away.

Each time you post something new, it confirms how much you don't know.

So I don't know who I went to college with? Thanks for your advice buddy. I'll just file that under "who gives a F'"!

 

[Payne]

The fan morale may be low, but the stadium sells out every week.

Detroit itself may be exactly as you described, but metro Detroit offers some outstanding communities to live in.

Along with some of the worst gettos in the country in Detoit proper! Detroit is a HORRIBLE place to live. NOBODY ever moves to Detroit, the fans are all the people in the auto industry that can't afford to leave!

I live less than a mile from Detroit.

I'll take my neighborhood over yours any day.

Detroit, itself, has some horrible neighborhoods. Nobody will deny that.

But it also has some very nice areas as well as some outstanding suburbs.

I went to college with a guy from the Detroit burbs. He couldn't wait to get out of that slum! He married a girl from the northeast and never went back! When the most famous person from your town is Slim Shady (and even he moved to LA and didn't go back), you know you have a problem!

I'm not here to argue how crappy Detroit is, just to say that Parcells is NOT coming so get over it!

Hey Payne, good luck in your Detroit paradise. Hopefully you won't get car jacked on the way home from work tonight!

Seriously, you have no clue. None. In fact you're ignorant.

Please keep the topic to something you might know about.

Do you think I have a good shot of getting car jacked driving from my office in Troy to my home in Grosse Pointe? You don't even know where those cities are located.

Do I think Parcells will come to Detroit? Nope. But he has close ties to Mr. Ford and seems to be a friend of Matt Millen. Wouldn't be all that surprising would it?

What does he have?

Potential workhorse RB

A blossoming #1 WR in Roy Williams with a solid #2 WR in Rogers (misused)

A solid TE in Pollard

Also, the defense was very underrated this year. They played quite well.

A great defensive line that could improve with the drafting of a pass rushing DE

Solid LB core (if healthy)

Bly at the corner

This team has talent.

 

[UlyssesNorris]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

 

[Foosball God]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

Owner with deep pocketsState of the art stadium / practice facilities

Devoted fan base

Considered to have a young, talented team by many

Again....the ego thing with coaches

I'm not making this up. It's been said more than once that the Lions head coaching job has been sought after by many coaches in the past. Marvin Lewis practically begged for this job. We blew that one big time.

Marvin Lewis was begging for any job. Bengals were the ones smart enough to hire him. Most of the things above you could say about a LOT of teams.I just think given the state of the franchise, the fan morale at the moment, the personnel there, and the fact that it's Detroit (again no offense, but it's not exactly San Francisco when it comes to luring a coach - it's one of the most run-down, crime ridden, coldest cities in America) would put it somewhere around 30th on the list of desirable head coaching jobs. Maybe Cleveland and New Orleans, given the circumstances there, might be less desirable of all 32 franchises, and that's about it.

I wouldn't put crime rate or the general ####tiness of Detroit as real down sides. There are a lot of very desirable neighborhoods in the suburbs which is where most players and coaches live.My personal opinion is not that we're not overly desirable nor un-desirable. Some of what Payne listed is correct but I agree with you that a lot of teams can boast the same sorts of things.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

This has been discussed before, but there is plenty to back up that argument:Fords shell out mad cash for players, staff, and facilities

Lions have some of the best facilities in the league.

Lions have an extremely devoted fan base

Lions have a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that is young and needs direction

NFL Coaches are inherantly egomaniacs...they want to be the man that turned a losing franchise around.

Fords hell out mad cash....

But be prepared to get slaughtered by those who think they know all.

I'm not looking to kill anyone. I'm just saying that Detroit, as a city, isn't San Diego or Miami in terms of appeal as a place to live. Also, with the fans in mutiny, staging marches to protest what's going on with the team, as well as glaring deficiencies on the OL, at QB, and basically on much of the defensive side of the ball, I wouldn't exactly call it many coaches dream job, that's all.For some coaches, ANY NFL job is going to be a dream job, though, so I'm sure they'll get someone decent.

Like Pittsburgh is a paradise

It's a stupid argument....Houston, St. Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, DC, Dallas and plenty of other NFL cities have terrible slums and lots of crime...plenty of places are colder and play outdoors....etc etc etc....anyone who thinks that really matters to a prospective NFL coach is fooling themselves.

It's a nice drive from Grosse Pointe down Jefferson to Ford Field....no worries there.

Who ever said Pittsburgh is a paradise? Although I've been to both cities, and believe Pittsburgh is a much cooler city, I don't doubt that Pittsburgh isn't many people's first choice of somewhere to coach either (although it's a much better FOOTBALL town than Detroit, which divides its interest among several sports.)Don't take it so personally - all I am saying is that Detroit doesn't offer the weather or entertainment options of many other NFL cities. I know almost all cities have slums, and all cities have nice areas to live also. I simply didn't care much for Detroit and those I know who have lived there didn't care much for it either.

 

[Payne]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

 

[Foosball God]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

Lewis was gone before Mooch was hired.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

Owner with deep pocketsState of the art stadium / practice facilities

Devoted fan base

Considered to have a young, talented team by many

Again....the ego thing with coaches

I'm not making this up. It's been said more than once that the Lions head coaching job has been sought after by many coaches in the past. Marvin Lewis practically begged for this job. We blew that one big time.

Marvin Lewis was begging for any job. Bengals were the ones smart enough to hire him. Most of the things above you could say about a LOT of teams.I just think given the state of the franchise, the fan morale at the moment, the personnel there, and the fact that it's Detroit (again no offense, but it's not exactly San Francisco when it comes to luring a coach - it's one of the most run-down, crime ridden, coldest cities in America) would put it somewhere around 30th on the list of desirable head coaching jobs. Maybe Cleveland and New Orleans, given the circumstances there, might be less desirable of all 32 franchises, and that's about it.

I wouldn't put crime rate or the general ####tiness of Detroit as real down sides. There are a lot of very desirable neighborhoods in the suburbs which is where most players and coaches live.My personal opinion is not that we're not overly desirable nor un-desirable. Some of what Payne listed is correct but I agree with you that a lot of teams can boast the same sorts of things.

You gotta go for a coach who grew up or spent a long time coaching in the area and has roots there. Guys like that will have a genuine affinity for the city/state and will be likely to step around. Hiring a young Jimmy Johnson who is taking the job as a stepping stone to get to a team in warm weather where he really wants to live would be a mistake.

 

[stevejohnson]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

There next coach will be a brother! They almost HAVE to hire a minority now.

 

[Foosball God]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

That was Moronweg, IIRC Lewis was hired by the time Detroit jettisoned Moronweg and hired Mooch.

 

[Foosball God]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

Owner with deep pocketsState of the art stadium / practice facilities

Devoted fan base

Considered to have a young, talented team by many

Again....the ego thing with coaches

I'm not making this up. It's been said more than once that the Lions head coaching job has been sought after by many coaches in the past. Marvin Lewis practically begged for this job. We blew that one big time.

Marvin Lewis was begging for any job. Bengals were the ones smart enough to hire him. Most of the things above you could say about a LOT of teams.I just think given the state of the franchise, the fan morale at the moment, the personnel there, and the fact that it's Detroit (again no offense, but it's not exactly San Francisco when it comes to luring a coach - it's one of the most run-down, crime ridden, coldest cities in America) would put it somewhere around 30th on the list of desirable head coaching jobs. Maybe Cleveland and New Orleans, given the circumstances there, might be less desirable of all 32 franchises, and that's about it.

I wouldn't put crime rate or the general ####tiness of Detroit as real down sides. There are a lot of very desirable neighborhoods in the suburbs which is where most players and coaches live.My personal opinion is not that we're not overly desirable nor un-desirable. Some of what Payne listed is correct but I agree with you that a lot of teams can boast the same sorts of things.

You gotta go for a coach who grew up or spent a long time coaching in the area and has roots there. Guys like that will have a genuine affinity for the city/state and will be likely to step around. Hiring a young Jimmy Johnson who is taking the job as a stepping stone to get to a team in warm weather where he really wants to live would be a mistake.

Funny you should mention Jimmy. That's my darkhorse candidate.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

There next coach will be a brother! They almost HAVE to hire a minority now.

Is it just me or does anyone else sense that Steve here is on borrowed time at FBG? No offense, Steve - you just seem like you're about to exlode with something inappropriate at any moment. Anyone else sense this, or is my FBG barometer off here?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

Owner with deep pocketsState of the art stadium / practice facilities

Devoted fan base

Considered to have a young, talented team by many

Again....the ego thing with coaches

I'm not making this up. It's been said more than once that the Lions head coaching job has been sought after by many coaches in the past. Marvin Lewis practically begged for this job. We blew that one big time.

Marvin Lewis was begging for any job. Bengals were the ones smart enough to hire him. Most of the things above you could say about a LOT of teams.I just think given the state of the franchise, the fan morale at the moment, the personnel there, and the fact that it's Detroit (again no offense, but it's not exactly San Francisco when it comes to luring a coach - it's one of the most run-down, crime ridden, coldest cities in America) would put it somewhere around 30th on the list of desirable head coaching jobs. Maybe Cleveland and New Orleans, given the circumstances there, might be less desirable of all 32 franchises, and that's about it.

I wouldn't put crime rate or the general ####tiness of Detroit as real down sides. There are a lot of very desirable neighborhoods in the suburbs which is where most players and coaches live.My personal opinion is not that we're not overly desirable nor un-desirable. Some of what Payne listed is correct but I agree with you that a lot of teams can boast the same sorts of things.

You gotta go for a coach who grew up or spent a long time coaching in the area and has roots there. Guys like that will have a genuine affinity for the city/state and will be likely to step around. Hiring a young Jimmy Johnson who is taking the job as a stepping stone to get to a team in warm weather where he really wants to live would be a mistake.

Funny you should mention Jimmy. That's my darkhorse candidate.

That's a million to 1 shot. I don't think he'd even consider coaching anywhere north of say, Atlanta.

 

[Foosball God]

1) The Lions job is one of the most sought after in the NFL.

I'm a Lions fan and that has me scratching my head too. The only thing I can think of is because the Ford's are stupid enough to give Millen a long term extention and are known to let idiots continue to be employed for long stretches.Meaning you can royally #### up and not get fired.

Owner with deep pocketsState of the art stadium / practice facilities

Devoted fan base

Considered to have a young, talented team by many

Again....the ego thing with coaches

I'm not making this up. It's been said more than once that the Lions head coaching job has been sought after by many coaches in the past. Marvin Lewis practically begged for this job. We blew that one big time.

Marvin Lewis was begging for any job. Bengals were the ones smart enough to hire him. Most of the things above you could say about a LOT of teams.I just think given the state of the franchise, the fan morale at the moment, the personnel there, and the fact that it's Detroit (again no offense, but it's not exactly San Francisco when it comes to luring a coach - it's one of the most run-down, crime ridden, coldest cities in America) would put it somewhere around 30th on the list of desirable head coaching jobs. Maybe Cleveland and New Orleans, given the circumstances there, might be less desirable of all 32 franchises, and that's about it.

I wouldn't put crime rate or the general ####tiness of Detroit as real down sides. There are a lot of very desirable neighborhoods in the suburbs which is where most players and coaches live.My personal opinion is not that we're not overly desirable nor un-desirable. Some of what Payne listed is correct but I agree with you that a lot of teams can boast the same sorts of things.

You gotta go for a coach who grew up or spent a long time coaching in the area and has roots there. Guys like that will have a genuine affinity for the city/state and will be likely to step around. Hiring a young Jimmy Johnson who is taking the job as a stepping stone to get to a team in warm weather where he really wants to live would be a mistake.

Funny you should mention Jimmy. That's my darkhorse candidate.

That's a million to 1 shot. I don't think he'd even consider coaching anywhere north of say, Atlanta.

You're probably right. I just get the feeling like he's getting the coaching itch again.

 

[Foosball God]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

There next coach will be a brother! They almost HAVE to hire a minority now.

Is it just me or does anyone else sense that Steve here is on borrowed time at FBG? No offense, Steve - you just seem like you're about to exlode with something inappropriate at any moment. Anyone else sense this, or is my FBG barometer off here?

 

[UlyssesNorris]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

That was Moronweg, IIRC Lewis was hired by the time Detroit jettisoned Moronweg and hired Mooch.

Just to clarify: The Lewis I was referring to was not Marvin, but Giants D-coordinator Tim, who turned down a prior interview request from Millen.

 

[Kleck]

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[Foosball God]

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[Payne]

The other assistant high on Millen's list is probably Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a coach he wanted to interview prior to hiring Steve Mariucci.

Lewis, though, declined the opportunity because he felt he was simply a token minority candidate who didn't have a chance against Mariucci. Millen was fined $200,000 by the league for failing to interview a minority candidate and now he may have two of them — after Parcells — at the top of his list.

If all this is true (I don't remember Lewis' name coming up when Mariucci was hired) I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get a shot at the job. I can't think of anything more fitting than one of those candidates the Lions tried to interview then costing themselves a chance now because they refused the opportunity to interview.Of course, if he is considered, he should be Exhibit A for any minority candidate who refuses an interview because he feels he's a "token." The landscape changes fast in the NFL, and making a good impression in an interview can only enhance your future opportunities.

There was no doubt Millen wanted Mooch from day 1.But rumors say Marvin Lewis wanted the Lions job bad, but Millen turned a deaf ear to him.

Millen better choose wisely. The city is not ready to sit and start over with an unproven coach. But what proven coach would want to come here knowing what they are walking into?

Tough spot for Millen, but he put himself there.

That was Moronweg, IIRC Lewis was hired by the time Detroit jettisoned Moronweg and hired Mooch.

Just to clarify: The Lewis I was referring to was not Marvin, but Giants D-coordinator Tim, who turned down a prior interview request from Millen.

I was the one referring to Marvin Lewis. A little confusing I guess.I heard Marvin Lewis wanted the Detroit job. I said it was before they hired Mooch, but Foos corrected me and rightfully so. Marvin Lewis wanted the job prior to Marty being hired.

 

[UlyssesNorris]

Marvin Lewis wanted the job prior to Marty being hired.

I try not to think about that too much. Although Marty has worked wonders with Mike McMahon. :X

 

[redman]

I went to college with a guy from the Detroit burbs. He couldn't wait to get out of that slum! He married a girl from the northeast and never went back! When the most famous person from your town is Slim Shady (and even he moved to LA and didn't go back), you know you have a problem!

I'm not here to argue how crappy Detroit is, just to say that Parcells is NOT coming so get over it!

Hey Payne, good luck in your Detroit paradise. Hopefully you won't get car jacked on the way home from work tonight!

I had a college roommate from Minneapolis, so I'm an expert on no fewer than 10,000 lakes!

 

[wannabee]

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and he was so nice ...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

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Wow. Did I call that one?

 

[SofaKings.]

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FFToday? That's a shocker.Good job Shick!

It was all I could do to not type "You are such a Johnson". I'm really diggin my NY resolution.

 

[redman]

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He was not being excellent.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

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Wow. Did I call that one?

Good call Evilgrin.BTW stevejohnson check the pic

 

[swirvenirvin]

Not going to happenHTH

 

[Cecil Lammey]

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He was not being excellent.

pissing in the Shark Pool is not allowed, fortunately shameless name dropping is!

 

[toastedgnome]

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Wow. Did I call that one?

Good call Evilgrin.BTW stevejohnson check the pic