The Lake City Gar
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Very good points. All.And just imagine...I was receiving a beating for using "Leftists" and "Propaganda".
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this guy is an arrogant ****. I hope he sucks...The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
Oh...
In case anyone is interested, this discussion is also taking place over at Free For All: Mash HERE!
And to this board's credit, it's fairly tame, just like this one. (I've seen posts like this get YANKED on political boards. I'm VERY impressed with the vast majority of posters here.
In case anyone is interested, this discussion is also taking place over at Free For All: Mash HERE!
And to this board's credit, it's fairly tame, just like this one. (I've seen posts like this get YANKED on political boards. I'm VERY impressed with the vast majority of posters here.
I think anytime you start saying "all liberal arguments are this way" or "all conservatives are nazis" you get into trouble. You have to segment things a little more before you start applying a broad brush.That's Coulter's problem. Well, besides her utter lack of anything resembling scholarship in her books. Joe McCarthy as American Martyr? Oh, puh-leeze. There are plenty of good Conservatives, Liberals and Moderates. If one can't see the different benefits of the different philosophies in different situations, then you're just following a demagogue's whims.
psychobillies
Footballguy
Nice try big guy. I said to repeat one lie you heard Rush tell on his show. You obviously could not so you ran an internet search and found a bunch of liberal propaganda that was put out in a sorry attempt to discredit Rush. I mean they put a bunch of chimps in a room who listened to this guys show for three hours a day for nearly 15 years and this is all they could come up with? All of that was probably taken out of context and you probably didn't look up any data to see who was right and who was wrong. You know darn well that I am not going to do the research it would take to prove all of that stuff wrong, just like you aren't going to do any research to prove it true. Why didn't you cite the actual source of your info instead of pasting it here and trying to take credit for it as if you had written it yourself? YOU got tons more? please. Sorry pal, but it was you who changed the rules, and if that was your answer then you lose.
Ohhh, I see your logic there. If THAT'S the criteria, then I would suppose that Larry King, Walter Cronkite, Mike Wallace, Morley Safer, etc, etc. would also be top-notch additions to any Sunday football program--given your criteria that they have made their lengthy careers out of "informing millions of viewers on the latest events." If we follow your reasoning to its logical conclusion, since these guys have decades of TELEVISION experience, they should actually be MORE qualified than RL.Your answer still begs the question. Who gives a crap about what HE thinks about FOOTBALL????
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
However, right now it seemss to be even worse than the Dennis Miller fiasco in that Miller was brought to add comedic relief, Rush is replacing Parcells and Sharpe. Sharpe was often a running joke, but he provided insight. I'm questioning Rush's ability to diagram Pittsburgh's zone blitz or tell why Denver's outside toss running play works.
psychobillies
Footballguy
Was that a response or a typo? You should write speeches for the DNC. Like them you have nothing to say so you make a weak attempt at taking a shot at Bush and change the subject.
Are you referring to your ignorance of the acronym SOTU or are you just continuing to dodge?I knew that nothing would satisfy or convince you. Of course it couldn't. You honestly believe Rush is right 100% of the time and is completely honest.With absolute religious faith like that, there is no preaching to fanatics.But, true to form, you changed the game once someone took your challenge. That is pretty typical of the true dittohead. Congrats!
The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
No. You're wrong.Rush DECIMATES the competition. He's THAT much better at what he does than anyone who competes with him...He simply knows how to "Speak to the people". Plus, he's a well educated football fan.All that adds up to him being a succes in his new line of work. I'm sorry if you liberals can't accept that but it's not my fault none of you can garner even 10% of the success Rush has, it's yours.DEAL with it!
YES!!! Will no one listen to the Voice of Reason????
I don't tune in on Sundays to hear:1. Howard Stern's, or2. Larry King's, or3. Rush Limbaugh's, or4. Al Franken's, or5. David Letterman's, or6. Bill Cosby's"insights" into the game of football. Call me a pompous fan, but unless you:a. play(ed) the game,b. coach(ed) the game, orc. covered the game for a living as a journalist, etc.then I honestly don't think you know a darn thing more about football than I do. And I don't give a crap WHO you are. Additionally, it doesn't entitle anyone to speak for me "as the voice of the fan". Who tunes in to the Sunday pregame show to hear WHAT OTHER FANS THINK???? I want to hear from the experts, not novices (famous or otherwise).It has nothing to do with politics--when Rush comes on this fall, I will turn the channel. He adds to the broadcast none of the things I tune in to see.The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
That's NOT what he was hired for?What part of the word "NOT" don't you people understand??????
Yeah, all of those other guys listed are complete and abject failures at their TELEVISION BROADCAST careers. (Uh, didn't Rush used to have a television show?? Well, probably better not bring that up here. . .) Yeah, nobody's ever heard of Mike Wallace on the short-running and insignificant show over on CBS. And the short-lived career of Larry King is well-documented.Your reason for "why RL will do a good job" is that he is successful in broadcasting. Well so are lots of people. And I'm not in the least interested in hearing THEM Sunday mornings, either. And for the last time, I could NOT care less what he knows about football. He does NOT know more than what you or I do. I don't tune in on Sunday mornings to hear WHAT OTHER FANS THINK. I get that all week long. I want expert commentary, information, and insights from people who have been doing FOOTBALL (not broadcasting) for their CAREERS.Having a hero is fine, but you have to be able to see that this guy IS, after all, just a guy, right??No. You're wrong.Rush DECIMATES the competition. He's THAT much better at what he does than anyone who competes with him...He simply knows how to "Speak to the people". Plus, he's a well educated football fan.All that adds up to him being a succes in his new line of work. I'm sorry if you liberals can't accept that but it's not my fault none of you can garner even 10% of the success Rush has, it's yours.DEAL with it!
The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
No. Not at all. But...NONE of them have totally and completely OVERWHELMED their competition the way Rush has. On top of that, Rush Limbaugh is personally responsible for the re-inventing of AM radio. When he started-out everyone said he was nuts and NO WAY would he succeed on a nationa level. AM radio was all about "Local" information, don't you know???Why do you think all you liberals HATE him so much? The answer is simple, and why you hate most things...He's a SUCCESS and he did it ON HIS OWN!
psychobillies
Footballguy
Actually it was the reference to the current SOTU controversy that I was calling a cheap shot. So that won't work. See if your mom will come and help you read these posts. I will be satisfied once you tell me of one occasion that you heard Rush lie. That's all I have ever asked for. Not some BS you plagiarized from some pinko web page.Trying to personalize this argument by calling me a fanatic will not win this argument for you. If you haven't noticed by now you are every bit as hard headed as I am.As I stated before, the game is still very much the same as when it started.And as far as the Congrats go, thank you. Thank you very much.
"OVERWHELMED" the competition? No one can dispute his radio show success. And has he sold lots of books? Sure. But television success? I'm not sure even RL can spin his way out of that one. (I know, I know, the liberal managers of the TV station-scheduling for syndicated shows wouldn't give his show good time slots and so he was tragically forced from the air). Whatever.Give the man his due--he's popular and rich. He's good at his radio broadcast job. He's sold lots of books. And all of those accomplishments mean jack squat in terms of a Sunday morning football pre-game show. I know he's supposed to "speak for the fan." I don't want to hear from OTHER FANS on Sunday morning. I get that at work (or on these boards) all week long. Parcells and Sharpe were FOOTBALL experts. RL is a football NOVICE.I am shocked that a rugged individualist such as yourself would be comfortable with having ANYONE "be his voice"--on an NFL pregame show or in any other venue!
The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
For the last time (Oh hell...Who am I kidding...No it's not)...Rush is NOT taking over for Sterling and Parcells. He's contributing something COMPLETELY NEW!!!
Now, if you want to bash Irvin as Sterling's and Parcell's replacement, get in line behind me. 
But that IS the point. They've lowered the value of the broadcast IMO by subtracting insights from football experts and adding the "insights" of a football novice. No interest in that from this quarter. . .For the last time (Oh hell...Who am I kidding...No it's not)...Rush is NOT taking over for Sterling and Parcells. He's contributing something COMPLETELY NEW!!!
Ooooh, the irony is thick here.You could say that, in terms of football knowledge, ESPN has opted for. . .SYMBOLISM OVER SUBSTANCE!!!I am literally laughing as I type that. . .But that IS the point. They've lowered the value of the broadcast IMO by subtracting insights from football experts and adding the "insights" of a football novice. No interest in that from this quarter. . .For the last time (Oh hell...Who am I kidding...No it's not)...Rush is NOT taking over for Sterling and Parcells. He's contributing something COMPLETELY NEW!!!
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Not all of us conservatives admire Rush. He is way too arrogant for my taste. I'm not looking forward at all to his appearances on Countdown.You dittoheads seem to be an emotional bunch. Perhaps what Rush is best at is playing to your emotions.gllllll peas
The Lake City Gar
Footballguy
Cute.So tell me, what's so special about this year if I haven't stalked him during the 13 years that I've been listening to him?Are you always such a #### to people who express interest in something, KCC?
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Rush SUCKS.
Keep it CLEAN boys... Keep it CLEAN. Actually it was the reference to the current SOTU controversy that I was calling a cheap shot. So that won't work. See if your mom will come and help you read these posts. I will be satisfied once you tell me of one occasion that you heard Rush lie. That's all I have ever asked for. Not some BS you plagiarized from some pinko web page.Trying to personalize this argument by calling me a fanatic will not win this argument for you. If you haven't noticed by now you are every bit as hard headed as I am.As I stated before, the game is still very much the same as when it started.And as far as the Congrats go, thank you. Thank you very much.Fine. I heard this one:LIMBAUGH: "And it was only 4,000 votes that--had they gone another way in Chicago--Richard Nixon would have been elected in 1960." (TV show, 4/28/94) REALITY:Kennedy won the 1960 election with 303 electoral votes to 219 for Nixon. Without Illinois' 27 electoral votes, Kennedy would still have won, 276-246. And this one:LIMBAUGH: On Bosnia: "For the first time in military history, U.S. military personnel are not under the command of United States generals." (TV show, 4/18/94) REALITY: That's news to the Pentagon. "How far back do you want to go?" asked Commander Joe Gradisher, a Pentagon spokesperson. "Americans served under Lafayette in the Revolutionary war." Gradisher pointed out several famous foreign commanders of U.S. troops, including France's Marshall Foch, in overall command of U.S. troops in World War I. In World War II, Britain's General Montgomery led U.S. troops in Europe and North Africa, while another British General, Lord Mountbatten, commanded the China-Burma-India theatre. The second one was of particular interest to me and I remember it explicitly. There. I have fulfilled your request. Rush is a liar. What else is there?Ah, except for your otherworldly loyal explanation of how now this doesn't make Rush a liar. I have an idea. Why don't we compromise on "ignorant"?
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I can honestly say that the only thing this whole thread has made me do is be much less likely to find relevance in Lake City's football posts. Anyone that is so angry and emotional is not someone I would want to take fantasy football advice from. Otherwise, let's just see how Rush does. Maybe he'll be great.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Yeah, dumb####, I was trying to debate.
What is really pathetic is attempting an attack on a post saying, and on a ff message board at that, nothing more than I don't like the guy.What's more, deducing from that, that I don't agree with his politics, gets you a gold star, lil' buddy! Good for you! 
You're contributing to the team! :rotflmao: 
Jim11
Footballguy
Let it be noted that the Rush haters can often be very emotional.Yeah, dumb####, I was trying to debate.
This whole thread is getting freiking stupid. "Rush lied." "No he didn't." "Rush sucks." "No he doesn't." "You suck because you don't like Rush." "You suck because you do like Rush." "Shut up." "Oh HUH!"Could we get back to the idea that this post was started about? Will Rush be an asset to the ESPN broadcast? A well-formed and defended argument would be a welcome change of pace.Let it be noted that the Rush haters can often be very emotional.Yeah, dumb####, I was trying to debate.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
How many TD's did he score that year?
Please let this topic go. This is a ####in FF site not a damn political debate area. I've held off this comment because I was hoping it would just slip of theboard but its still here like a sore thumb. TAKE IT TO THE FREE FOR ALL IF YOUR THAT ANGRY AND FEEL A NEED TO ARGUE! 
Class Dismissed
Footballguy
In an unrelated story the New York Times "A Newspaper of Record" "The standard by which all journalisn is measured published yet another 2300 word retraction and apology.
developing.......
Impacting.......This weeks "Corrections by the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/corrections.html
10 this time
Corrections
n article yesterday about efforts in Willits, Calif., and by the nearby Ridgewood Ranch to promote interest in the racehorse Seabiscuit, who retired there, misspelled the surname of a man who recalled having heard about the horse's intelligence from his father-in-law, the jockey's doctor. He is George C. Akins, not Atkins.
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An article on Thursday about fees paid to trustees of private foundations misstated the asset value of the Duke Endowment, whose trustees divide 3 percent of its investment income. It is $2.5 billion, not $6 billion.
•
An obituary on June 18 about Dr. Robert Alan Good, a founder of modern immunology, misstated the hometown of a surviving daughter, Mary E. Good. It is Smithfield, Me., not Smithville.
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An article in Business Day on Friday about the use of stock options and restricted stock in employee compensation plans among Silicon Valley companies misstated the tax consequences for employees. They are usually taxed at ordinary income rates, not at capital gains rates, on the difference between the price of the option and the market value on the date of exercise.
The article also misstated the name of a firm that advises companies on compensation. It is the Croner Company, not the Croner Group.
•
An article in Business Day on Monday about the boom in Wi-Fi, a technology for wireless connection of personal computers to the Internet, referred incompletely to the data transmission speed. The latest technology allows for maximum rates of 54 megabits a second; it is not limited to 11 megabits a second.
The article also credited the creation of the Wi-Fi standard, incompletely. While Apple Computer was indeed a leader, the development group included many companies.
•
The Advertising column in Business Day on Monday, about the increasingly diverse sponsors of Nascar racing, misidentified the military sponsor that paid $30 million for a role. It was the branches of the United States armed forces together, not just the Army.
•
A sports article on Monday about accusations of academic improprieties involving an Ohio State football player, Maurice Clarett, referred incorrectly in some copies to an Ohio newspaper that reported a meeting between him and N.C.A.A. officials. It is The Columbus Dispatch, not Post-Dispatch.
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A sports article on Monday about changes in the lineup of the MetroStars professional soccer team misspelled the given name of the new starting goalkeeper and misidentified the team for which he played in Chile last year. He is Jonny Walker, not Johnny. The team was Universidad Católica, not Colo Colo.
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A sports article on Monday about the championship game for the Independent Women's Football League misstated the record of the New York Sharks. It is 8-1, not 7-1.
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An article in Arts & Ideas on Saturday about the book "Moses: A Memoir," by Joel Cohen, misspelled the name of the law firm in which the author is a partner. It is Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, not Levan.
developing.......
Impacting.......This weeks "Corrections by the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/corrections.html
10 this time
Corrections
n article yesterday about efforts in Willits, Calif., and by the nearby Ridgewood Ranch to promote interest in the racehorse Seabiscuit, who retired there, misspelled the surname of a man who recalled having heard about the horse's intelligence from his father-in-law, the jockey's doctor. He is George C. Akins, not Atkins.
•
An article on Thursday about fees paid to trustees of private foundations misstated the asset value of the Duke Endowment, whose trustees divide 3 percent of its investment income. It is $2.5 billion, not $6 billion.
•
An obituary on June 18 about Dr. Robert Alan Good, a founder of modern immunology, misstated the hometown of a surviving daughter, Mary E. Good. It is Smithfield, Me., not Smithville.
•
An article in Business Day on Friday about the use of stock options and restricted stock in employee compensation plans among Silicon Valley companies misstated the tax consequences for employees. They are usually taxed at ordinary income rates, not at capital gains rates, on the difference between the price of the option and the market value on the date of exercise.
The article also misstated the name of a firm that advises companies on compensation. It is the Croner Company, not the Croner Group.
•
An article in Business Day on Monday about the boom in Wi-Fi, a technology for wireless connection of personal computers to the Internet, referred incompletely to the data transmission speed. The latest technology allows for maximum rates of 54 megabits a second; it is not limited to 11 megabits a second.
The article also credited the creation of the Wi-Fi standard, incompletely. While Apple Computer was indeed a leader, the development group included many companies.
•
The Advertising column in Business Day on Monday, about the increasingly diverse sponsors of Nascar racing, misidentified the military sponsor that paid $30 million for a role. It was the branches of the United States armed forces together, not just the Army.
•
A sports article on Monday about accusations of academic improprieties involving an Ohio State football player, Maurice Clarett, referred incorrectly in some copies to an Ohio newspaper that reported a meeting between him and N.C.A.A. officials. It is The Columbus Dispatch, not Post-Dispatch.
•
A sports article on Monday about changes in the lineup of the MetroStars professional soccer team misspelled the given name of the new starting goalkeeper and misidentified the team for which he played in Chile last year. He is Jonny Walker, not Johnny. The team was Universidad Católica, not Colo Colo.
•
A sports article on Monday about the championship game for the Independent Women's Football League misstated the record of the New York Sharks. It is 8-1, not 7-1.
•
An article in Arts & Ideas on Saturday about the book "Moses: A Memoir," by Joel Cohen, misspelled the name of the law firm in which the author is a partner. It is Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, not Levan.
GIG2000
Footballguy
I have to say emphatically NO! Just as I felt Dennis Miller really didnt bring much to the games he was on as well. Rush is a political figure, his area of expertise is radio commentary on political issues. As far as I know, I have never heard of him having any real experience with football other than being a fan (just like me). The networks just keep on fumbling this particular ball. If they want to draw more people with the people they have calling the games, get MORE of the retired stars to call games. Jerry Glannville always did a decent job I thought as does the guys on Fox crew.I didnt like dennis miller on MNF and I wont like rush for much of the same reason, he doesnt bring anything FOOTBALL related to the discussion. Sure dennis came up with some funny stuff, but thats not really why I would be watching. I think rush will be the same way.Hope thats a little more on target for you
GIG
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