Ryan Grant - 2011 Season (1 Viewer)

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

I hope I get some posts here. What's the deal with Grant for the 2011 season? I know he is still under contract with GB, but is due a fairly big signing bonus. Do the Packers cut him this spring and go with a rookie? My dynasty league is doing cuts now to get players completely off the books contract-wise. Does Grant still have value?

In my opinion Grant is just an average RB that was reaping the rewards of a very good offense. I think the Packers cut him and go a different direction. Is there any speculation out there on this subject?

 

[Sammy Traveller]

 

[Mello]

I hope I get some posts here. What's the deal with Grant for the 2011 season? I know he is still under contract with GB, but is due a fairly big signing bonus. Do the Packers cut him this spring and go with a rookie? My dynasty league is doing cuts now to get players completely off the books contract-wise. Does Grant still have value?

In my opinion Grant is just an average RB that was reaping the rewards of a very good offense. I think the Packers cut him and go a different direction. Is there any speculation out there on this subject?

I thought this too until I saw Grant's backups fail to come close to his production. I would guess the Packers value Grant more now and will keep him next year.

 

[Concept Coop]

I think any answer you get is a pretty wild guess, here's mine:

Yes, Grant does have value. Depending on the league, "average" runningbacks have value.

I don't know that Greenbay cuts their ties. I thought so originally, but after watching Jackson struggle, I have my doubts. I would not be surprised to see them draft a RB, nor would I be surprised if the still kept Grant after doing so.

 

[Avery]

IIRC, Grants contract is due to ballon next year meaning that if the Packers were to keep him, in all likelihood they would have to negotiate a new deal/extension meaning a long term commitment to Grant that I'm not convinced they are willing to make.

 

[mental]

They certainly have other needs, but given how much pressure there was on the Packers to trade for Marshawn Lynch, it's easy to imagine GB looking to add a top RB through the draft or free agency. If it's a FA, you'd think they'd have to offer the guy a chance to be a starter.

 

[thriftyrocker]

He makes 6 mil next year

2011: $3.5 million (+ $1.75 million roster bonus due in March + $500,000 roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus)

 

[Garts]

Traded Ryan Grant

got Brand Lloyd

The other owner has bad RB keepers for next year and has great WR depth this year and going nowwhere and wanted to take a chance on Grant.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

Traded him for a 2011 2nd rd pick in a package deal with other players

 

[Warhogs]

I have a hunch Grant sticks around in Green Bay. I believe he is well liked and has been productive. I do however he will either have to negotiate a new contract or he will be cut and resigned if he can not find someone willing to give him a big contract. In any case my gut tells me he is in Green Bay next year.

 

[zamboni]

Hard to say - I think they keep Grant around, but also maybe draft his eventual replacement and let him gradually work in the mix. Not unlike Shonn Greene last year with Thomas Jones around.

 

[Tau837]

Grant's injury should have no lasting effects. He turns 28 next month, so he isn't too old. His backups have failed to impress since he went down, which arguably shows his value to the team.

IMO Grant is generally underrated. He has performed well when healthy and is a good fit for the Packers system. I expect the team will bring in one or more RBs either through the draft or free agency or both to improve the RB situation behind Grant and/or to better complement him. I don't see the Packers using a high draft pick at RB or brining in a marquee free agent, so I think Grant will be the starter next year. Beyond that will depend on how he performs, but I certainly think it's possible he could be the starter for the next 2-3 seasons.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I hope I get some posts here. What's the deal with Grant for the 2011 season? I know he is still under contract with GB, but is due a fairly big signing bonus. Do the Packers cut him this spring and go with a rookie? My dynasty league is doing cuts now to get players completely off the books contract-wise. Does Grant still have value?

In my opinion Grant is just an average RB that was reaping the rewards of a very good offense. I think the Packers cut him and go a different direction. Is there any speculation out there on this subject?

I thought this too until I saw Grant's backups fail to come close to his production. I would guess the Packers value Grant more now and will keep him next year.

I think we need put that line of thinking to rest.

As for 11, really hard to say. We know Thompson doesn't like to deal with aging vets coming off serious injuries, but I don't think Grant, at almost 28 fits that category yet.

And it's clear the offense misses him.

My hunch is Grant's back and it's his job to lose next season.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I think its nearly impossible to predict what the Packers RB situation will be like in 2011. They don't have a marquee talent at the position. Grant is good not great. Jackson is a good not great 3rd down back, although he is performing better than most give him credit for right now. Kuhn is a FB.

One thing I can say with some degree of certainty. RB perhaps more than any other position is a young mans spot. Thompson has a definite preference for young players and his own guys. The Packers will most likely have four choices in the top 100 next spring. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Packers take a RB with one of those picks, then let Grant, Jackson, Starks and the rookie compete for playing time.

 

[az_prof]

Grant's injury should have no lasting effects. He turns 28 next month, so he isn't too old. His backups have failed to impress since he went down, which arguably shows his value to the team.IMO Grant is generally underrated. He has performed well when healthy and is a good fit for the Packers system. I expect the team will bring in one or more RBs either through the draft or free agency or both to improve the RB situation behind Grant and/or to better complement him. I don't see the Packers using a high draft pick at RB or brining in a marquee free agent, so I think Grant will be the starter next year. Beyond that will depend on how he performs, but I certainly think it's possible he could be the starter for the next 2-3 seasons.

He isn't TOO old, but a 28 yeard old, average RB coming off a serious injury isn't exactly a shoe in to reclaim the starting job. I think he will be in GB on a restructured deal because I doubt anyone else will pay him and they will not want to pay him 6 mil. I think he will compete for starting job with either a FA or a rookie. He will have a chance, but it is no sure thing.So in dynasty, he has some value. But you have to carry him this year and get nothing from him and there is no certainty he will ever produce fantasy worthy numbers again. Most guys in fantasy would rather have a 21 or 22 year old unproven rookie than a 28 year old guy coming off injury who has to fight for a starting spot. I would say his value is maybe a mid to late secound round rookie pick. I can't imagine anyone offering a first round pick. A third round pick wouldn't be unreasonable.

 

[Resident A]

I thought Grant was just an average RB who benefited from a great passing offense to take pressure off the run game. Then I saw Brandon Jackson try to do the same. Jackson is barely even fantasy-relevant doing the same job Grant excelled at, despite being in a top offense. I think we have to say that Grant's talent as much as his situation is what made him a high-end RB2.

If GB goes after DeAngelo Williams, another FA, or drafts a RB high- all bets are off. But if Grant returns to the same role he had in 07'-09', he's a top-15 option.

 

[Richard_the_Vampire]

Grant's injury should have no lasting effects. He turns 28 next month, so he isn't too old. His backups have failed to impress since he went down, which arguably shows his value to the team.IMO Grant is generally underrated. He has performed well when healthy and is a good fit for the Packers system. I expect the team will bring in one or more RBs either through the draft or free agency or both to improve the RB situation behind Grant and/or to better complement him. I don't see the Packers using a high draft pick at RB or brining in a marquee free agent, so I think Grant will be the starter next year. Beyond that will depend on how he performs, but I certainly think it's possible he could be the starter for the next 2-3 seasons.

He isn't TOO old, but a 28 yeard old, average RB coming off a serious injury isn't exactly a shoe in to reclaim the starting job. I think he will be in GB on a restructured deal because I doubt anyone else will pay him and they will not want to pay him 6 mil. I think he will compete for starting job with either a FA or a rookie. He will have a chance, but it is no sure thing.So in dynasty, he has some value. But you have to carry him this year and get nothing from him and there is no certainty he will ever produce fantasy worthy numbers again. Most guys in fantasy would rather have a 21 or 22 year old unproven rookie than a 28 year old guy coming off injury who has to fight for a starting spot. I would say his value is maybe a mid to late secound round rookie pick. I can't imagine anyone offering a first round pick. A third round pick wouldn't be unreasonable.

That's ridiculous. Third round picks have virtually no value, nor do late second round picks. Grant has a good chance to reclaim the starting job next year. I wouldn't accept less than a first for him, and even then would probably hold.

 

[sho nuff]

I thought Grant was just an average RB who benefited from a great passing offense to take pressure off the run game. Then I saw Brandon Jackson try to do the same. Jackson is barely even fantasy-relevant doing the same job Grant excelled at, despite being in a top offense. I think we have to say that Grant's talent as much as his situation is what made him a high-end RB2.If GB goes after DeAngelo Williams, another FA, or drafts a RB high- all bets are off. But if Grant returns to the same role he had in 07'-09', he's a top-15 option.

Not saying Jackson is as good as Grant...but since when is a top 25 RB barely fantasy relevant (Jackson is #20 in my pretty standard scoring non-ppr league)?

 

[Tau837]

Grant's injury should have no lasting effects. He turns 28 next month, so he isn't too old. His backups have failed to impress since he went down, which arguably shows his value to the team.IMO Grant is generally underrated. He has performed well when healthy and is a good fit for the Packers system. I expect the team will bring in one or more RBs either through the draft or free agency or both to improve the RB situation behind Grant and/or to better complement him. I don't see the Packers using a high draft pick at RB or brining in a marquee free agent, so I think Grant will be the starter next year. Beyond that will depend on how he performs, but I certainly think it's possible he could be the starter for the next 2-3 seasons.

He isn't TOO old, but a 28 yeard old, average RB coming off a serious injury isn't exactly a shoe in to reclaim the starting job. I think he will be in GB on a restructured deal because I doubt anyone else will pay him and they will not want to pay him 6 mil. I think he will compete for starting job with either a FA or a rookie. He will have a chance, but it is no sure thing.So in dynasty, he has some value. But you have to carry him this year and get nothing from him and there is no certainty he will ever produce fantasy worthy numbers again. Most guys in fantasy would rather have a 21 or 22 year old unproven rookie than a 28 year old guy coming off injury who has to fight for a starting spot. I would say his value is maybe a mid to late secound round rookie pick. I can't imagine anyone offering a first round pick. A third round pick wouldn't be unreasonable.

I disagree with a lot of this. First off, I think Grant is better than average. I know it's a popular sentiment around here that he is merely average, and that's one reason I wrote that I think he is generally underrated.I also don't think his injury is a serious injury in terms of what it means for next year and beyond. It is not the type of injury that should have lingering effects or reduce his effectiveness long term. He should be able to fully participate in all offseason workouts. It's serious for this season, but this season only IMO. And the silver lining for Grant is that the Packers had no one step up and make him dispensable in his absence.I think there is a solid chance his contract will be reworked, but not as much because it is unreasonably high but rather to extend it for 2-3 years and enable the team to delay a major investment (i.e., high draft pick, marquee free agent) at RB.For those reasons, I think your valuation is off, and he is worth more than a mid to late second round pick, which I rarely find to be useful.

 

[moderated]

I thought Grant was just an average RB who benefited from a great passing offense to take pressure off the run game. Then I saw Brandon Jackson try to do the same. Jackson is barely even fantasy-relevant doing the same job Grant excelled at, despite being in a top offense. I think we have to say that Grant's talent as much as his situation is what made him a high-end RB2.If GB goes after DeAngelo Williams, another FA, or drafts a RB high- all bets are off. But if Grant returns to the same role he had in 07'-09', he's a top-15 option.

LOL, BJax is ranked 18th in my non-ppr standard scoring league and is averaging 4.25 YPC.Please explain how that is not fantasy relevant. He is startable in pretty much any 12+ team league as a decent RB2.