Ryan Mathews, RB, San Diego Chargers (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

I know you gotta get to the FFL Bowl before you can win it... blah blah blah.

But is anyone else a little bit concerned about the Week 16 matchup? S.D. @ NYJ

The Jets were only 13th against the run last year, but this is one of those games where I can see Mathews having quite a struggle. It's also the Sunday night game, and there is no Monday night game in Week 16. So your entire season could come down to Mathews that night.

 

[steelerfan1]

I know you gotta get to the FFL Bowl before you can win it... blah blah blah.But is anyone else a little bit concerned about the Week 16 matchup? S.D. @ NYJThe Jets were only 13th against the run last year, but this is one of those games where I can see Mathews having quite a struggle. It's also the Sunday night game, and there is no Monday night game in Week 16. So your entire season could come down to Mathews that night.

saw this too RN.they also have cincy and pitt weeks 13 and 14.he did have pretty good games against ravens and jags lastyear though, so hopefully the very least you get 5-6 receptions from him with the carries against tough to run teams.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Every year there seems to be one or two RBs that get hyped based on limited sample sizes and then falter. This is that guy this year. He hasn't played a full season and he has yet to show he can stand up to that type of punishment.....this has been his M.O. since college. I'll let someone else buy the hype and load up on two guys for the price of Mathews in my auction. Nice times out of ten people take chances on guys just like this and it backfires. If his price was about half what he is going for now I would take a chance, but the risk of a first round pick or what he is going for in auctions is not worth the reward when there are similar proven commodities at that same price.NO THANKS.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Every year there seems to be one or two RBs that get hyped based on limited sample sizes and then falter. This is that guy this year. He hasn't played a full season and he has yet to show he can stand up to that type of punishment.....this has been his M.O. since college. I'll let someone else buy the hype and load up on two guys for the price of Mathews in my auction. Nice times out of ten people take chances on guys just like this and it backfires. If his price was about half what he is going for now I would take a chance, but the risk of a first round pick or what he is going for in auctions is not worth the reward when there are similar proven commodities at that same price.NO THANKS.

Agreed, I prefer a guy who has proven himself with a finish as a top 10 RB, 270+ touches, over 1000 yards rushing, and 1500 total yards. ...Fortunately Mathews has done all of that. Injuries have definitely played a part over his career, but for the numbers he's produced and the immense upside going forward he's worth at least a 2nd round pick.

..So last year you were all over peyton hillis? How many times in the last 5 years has mathews played a full season?He is worth a second round pick in a 12 team league ....but I don't think most here are talking about that.

Peyton Hillis is a completely different situation. Their running styles, usage, and situation are vastly different. The writing was on the wall for Hillis to have a down year.I too would be surprised if Mathews played all 16 games, but that doesn't mean he isn't a top player. Look at how Brian Westbrook was valued. You could pencil him in for 1-2 games missed per year, yet he was a consensus 1st rounder most years. I guess the debate is how much a top 10 RB who will miss a game or two is worth. I'd be looking to grab him somewhere 10th-16th overall.

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Every year there seems to be one or two RBs that get hyped based on limited sample sizes and then falter. This is that guy this year. He hasn't played a full season and he has yet to show he can stand up to that type of punishment.....this has been his M.O. since college. I'll let someone else buy the hype and load up on two guys for the price of Mathews in my auction. Nice times out of ten people take chances on guys just like this and it backfires. If his price was about half what he is going for now I would take a chance, but the risk of a first round pick or what he is going for in auctions is not worth the reward when there are similar proven commodities at that same price.NO THANKS.

Agreed, I prefer a guy who has proven himself with a finish as a top 10 RB, 270+ touches, over 1000 yards rushing, and 1500 total yards. ...Fortunately Mathews has done all of that. Injuries have definitely played a part over his career, but for the numbers he's produced and the immense upside going forward he's worth at least a 2nd round pick.

..So last year you were all over peyton hillis? How many times in the last 5 years has mathews played a full season?He is worth a second round pick in a 12 team league ....but I don't think most here are talking about that.

Peyton Hillis is a completely different situation. Their running styles, usage, and situation are vastly different. The writing was on the wall for Hillis to have a down year.I too would be surprised if Mathews played all 16 games, but that doesn't mean he isn't a top player. Look at how Brian Westbrook was valued. You could pencil him in for 1-2 games missed per year, yet he was a consensus 1st rounder most years. I guess the debate is how much a top 10 RB who will miss a game or two is worth. I'd be looking to grab him somewhere 10th-16th overall.

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

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[VaTerp]

Every year there seems to be one or two RBs that get hyped based on limited sample sizes and then falter. This is that guy this year. He hasn't played a full season and he has yet to show he can stand up to that type of punishment.....this has been his M.O. since college. I'll let someone else buy the hype and load up on two guys for the price of Mathews in my auction. Nice times out of ten people take chances on guys just like this and it backfires. If his price was about half what he is going for now I would take a chance, but the risk of a first round pick or what he is going for in auctions is not worth the reward when there are similar proven commodities at that same price.NO THANKS.

Agreed, I prefer a guy who has proven himself with a finish as a top 10 RB, 270+ touches, over 1000 yards rushing, and 1500 total yards. ...Fortunately Mathews has done all of that. Injuries have definitely played a part over his career, but for the numbers he's produced and the immense upside going forward he's worth at least a 2nd round pick.

..So last year you were all over peyton hillis? How many times in the last 5 years has mathews played a full season?He is worth a second round pick in a 12 team league ....but I don't think most here are talking about that.

Peyton Hillis is a completely different situation. Their running styles, usage, and situation are vastly different. The writing was on the wall for Hillis to have a down year.I too would be surprised if Mathews played all 16 games, but that doesn't mean he isn't a top player. Look at how Brian Westbrook was valued. You could pencil him in for 1-2 games missed per year, yet he was a consensus 1st rounder most years. I guess the debate is how much a top 10 RB who will miss a game or two is worth. I'd be looking to grab him somewhere 10th-16th overall.

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

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Exactly.

 

[Raider Nation]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

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This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

Look at me Look at me Look at me, I think i'm important on a message board

This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

Stole your guru...... Nice miss quote though.....wow...u remember things over a year old....not sure what that says about you. I thank the raiders every day. Cable is the man.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

Look at me Look at me Look at me, I think i'm important on a message board

This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

He's close to unreadable in here because he's an arrogant armchair QB

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

Look at me Look at me Look at me, I think i'm important on a message board

This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

Stole your guru...... Nice miss quote though.....wow...u remember things over a year old....not sure what that says about you. I thank the raiders every day.

Prolly means you are going to be held accountable when you speak in hyperbole, so use discretion when you post.

 

[Raider Nation]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

Look at me Look at me Look at me, I think i'm important on a message board

This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

He's close to unreadable in here because he's an arrogant armchair QB

Ummm, he passed "close to" unreadable about 40 exits back. I've had him on ignore for months. I only saw his usual chest-pounding garbage because you decided to quote it. Please try not to do that again.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Consider yourself lucky he was injured in the preseason. I warned you yet you didn't listen. Hopefully you didn't draft all ready bro..you can thank me whenever..

Look at me Look at me Look at me, I think i'm important on a message board

This is the gimp who shed tears of joy when Seattle "STOLE Oakland's best offensive lineman" last year.The same Gallery who is now retired, BTW.

See if he bumps that thread.

He's close to unreadable in here because he's an arrogant armchair QB

Ummm, he passed "close to" unreadable about 40 exits back. I've had him on ignore for months. I only saw his usual chest-pounding garbage because you decided to quote it. Please try not to do that again.

Haha true, I'll attempt to refrain in the future

 

[meyerj31]

The value of the top tier RBs just skyrocketed further.

 

[VaTerp]

The value of the top tier RBs just skyrocketed further.

How so? The value of the top 3 RBs was already well established and I don't really see how it goes any higher. Mathews already had durability concerns and with this injury is likely to only miss a week or two.I could see how CJ's stock just went up but not sure how the top tier is affected.

 

[meyerj31]

The value of the top tier RBs just skyrocketed further.

How so? The value of the top 3 RBs was already well established and I don't really see how it goes any higher. Mathews already had durability concerns and with this injury is likely to only miss a week or two.I could see how CJ's stock just went up but not sure how the top tier is affected.

Would the value of the top 3 Rbs change if the 4th-10th best RBs all broke their leg? (The answer is yes, they would.)There is now a bigger difference between the best RBs and the middle/lower guys, as far as replacement value. Now, I know Mathews will be back near the beginning of the season, so this doesn't alter it much, but I would be much happier paying $50 for Foster/Rice/McCoy at this point.

 

[SYMPHONY X]

Any updates on Mathews of late? Good, bad, or otherwise? In a blurb dated 8/17/12, Mathews was quoted as saying that he still thinks he will be ready to go week 1. I was just checking the schedule, and saw some potential negatives for Mathews. From weeks 11-14, he plays the at the Broncos, Ravens and Bengals at home, and then at the Steelers in the all-important fantasy week 14 (if you lose week 14, you don't win the trophy). Any chance Mathews makes it through these weeks healthy (get out your crystal ball!) And if he does go into Pittsburgh in week 14, doesn't it seem the odds are stacked against him having a big fantasy production day in the most important fantasy week of the whole year?

I was all set to assume the risk of Mathews in the 3rd round or so this year, but upon further review, I am reversing that call. I will bypass Mathews unless he falls to like the 5th round, which I don't see happening.

 

[Raider Nation]

Kevin Acee of the Union-Tribune San Diego believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3.Note that Acee is merely answering a question on Twitter here, not reporting. Still, no one has a better handle on the pulse of the Chargers. A Week 3 return would give Mathews six full weeks of recovery time. His original timetable was set at roughly 4-6 weeks. The Chargers won't hesitate to use Mathews as a workhorse back once he's healed. We like him as a second-round value pick.

 

[SYMPHONY X]

Kevin Acee of the Union-Tribune San Diego believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3.Note that Acee is merely answering a question on Twitter here, not reporting. Still, no one has a better handle on the pulse of the Chargers. A Week 3 return would give Mathews six full weeks of recovery time. His original timetable was set at roughly 4-6 weeks. The Chargers won't hesitate to use Mathews as a workhorse back once he's healed. We like him as a second-round value pick.

Thanks for the update RN. I just noticed also that my schedule concerns were brought up by you and others at the top of page 4 of this thread. You mentioned at the Jets in week 16. I forgot to include that in my post, but yeah, that just adds to Mathews brutal looking closing fantasy schedule. And if he gets shut down by PIT in week 14, you may not even have the luxury of worrying about week 16 at the JETS. Guess a guy should look at drafting Mathews at the best value possible, hope he goes off for a few weeks in a row starting in week 3 (when he will most likely be back), and then trade him, if possible. I say just completely stay away from Mathews, cross him off of your cheatsheet.

 

[hines]

Kevin Acee of the Union-Tribune San Diego believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3.Note that Acee is merely answering a question on Twitter here, not reporting. Still, no one has a better handle on the pulse of the Chargers. A Week 3 return would give Mathews six full weeks of recovery time. His original timetable was set at roughly 4-6 weeks. The Chargers won't hesitate to use Mathews as a workhorse back once he's healed. We like him as a second-round value pick.

Thanks for the update RN. I just noticed also that my schedule concerns were brought up by you and others at the top of page 4 of this thread. You mentioned at the Jets in week 16. I forgot to include that in my post, but yeah, that just adds to Mathews brutal looking closing fantasy schedule. And if he gets shut down by PIT in week 14, you may not even have the luxury of worrying about week 16 at the JETS. Guess a guy should look at drafting Mathews at the best value possible, hope he goes off for a few weeks in a row starting in week 3 (when he will most likely be back), and then trade him, if possible. I say just completely stay away from Mathews, cross him off of your cheatsheet.

yes cross him off your cheatsheet lol. a guy who finished 7th while missing 2 games and splitting carries last year should never be crossed of anyone's cheat sheet. drop him a few spots for likely missing a game or two but who can predict defenses well in advance? who's to say he doesn't catch 7 passes that week. it's comments like this that make me think he could be one of the steals of the draft

 

[FF Ninja]

Sorry, I haven't read through everything so maybe this has been mentioned but is drafting Kevin Smith not the easy fix here? He can start for you for 2 weeks while he's the clear primary RB for Detroit and then he's your bye week filler later on down the road. And personally, I believe he'll be the best RB on that roster all year long (assuming he's healthy). I don't think LeShoure will ever be the same after that injury and if Best starts the year on the PUP from a hit in 2011 then I can't see him being the RB1 on that team at any point.

Kevin Smith is coming off the board as RB35 (88th overall - 8.04 in a 12 team league), so he'd likely be your RB3 or RB4 depending on how you draft your RBs. It is worth noting that he's got an ADP in the 70's on FF calc, RTS, and CBS.

 

[VaTerp]

Sorry, I haven't read through everything so maybe this has been mentioned but is drafting Kevin Smith not the easy fix here? He can start for you for 2 weeks while he's the clear primary RB for Detroit and then he's your bye week filler later on down the road. And personally, I believe he'll be the best RB on that roster all year long (assuming he's healthy). I don't think LeShoure will ever be the same after that injury and if Best starts the year on the PUP from a hit in 2011 then I can't see him being the RB1 on that team at any point.Kevin Smith is coming off the board as RB35 (88th overall - 8.04 in a 12 team league), so he'd likely be your RB3 or RB4 depending on how you draft your RBs. It is worth noting that he's got an ADP in the 70's on FF calc, RTS, and CBS.

This has been mentioned as a path to follow here and I think others Mathews threads.In my draft this past Sunday I took Mathews at 3.03 and was able to get Smith at 9.03. I know he's likely to go higher in most drafts and I'm curious as to his value in my auction next week.But targeting Smith is a strategy that many of us who like Mathews have discussed.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Philip Rivers has become captain checkdown of late. 4 rec for 37 yards in the last preseason game for Ronnie Brown. Mike Tolbert and Ryan Mathews combined for 104 receptions last year. Matchups won't matter with Mathews becaue he will always sustain value via the passing game. Week 15 last year Mathews played the Ravens. I bet pre-season people were worried about that. He had 109 total yards and 2 td's. Not drafting players based on matchups that won't happen 3 months from now is silly. While it is smart to target people with easier schedule's, you never know when injuries will happen to a defense. Pittsburgh was 8th against the run and the Jets were 13th (9th and 7th, respectively, in YPC against). Both were good but not scary. In fact, Pittsburgh has only gotten older and slower. They are beatable. Any week Ryan Mathews plays, versus any team, he is a threat for 20 touches or 5 catches or multiple touchdowns. Avoid him for injury reasons, not for who he plays.

 

[Badgers Fan]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/19871232

Mathews improving: RB Ryan Mathews caught and threw footballs during rehab work. Mathews broke a clavicle just 13 days ago in the preseason opener against the Packers. He is expected to be out four to six weeks but has said his goal is to play in Week 1 against the Raiders. It's still a long-shot that Mathews will be ready for the season opener, but his recovery has been impressive.

 

[meyerj31]

Sorry, I haven't read through everything so maybe this has been mentioned but is drafting Kevin Smith not the easy fix here? He can start for you for 2 weeks while he's the clear primary RB for Detroit and then he's your bye week filler later on down the road. And personally, I believe he'll be the best RB on that roster all year long (assuming he's healthy). I don't think LeShoure will ever be the same after that injury and if Best starts the year on the PUP from a hit in 2011 then I can't see him being the RB1 on that team at any point.Kevin Smith is coming off the board as RB35 (88th overall - 8.04 in a 12 team league), so he'd likely be your RB3 or RB4 depending on how you draft your RBs. It is worth noting that he's got an ADP in the 70's on FF calc, RTS, and CBS.

This has been mentioned as a path to follow here and I think others Mathews threads.In my draft this past Sunday I took Mathews at 3.03 and was able to get Smith at 9.03. I know he's likely to go higher in most drafts and I'm curious as to his value in my auction next week.But targeting Smith is a strategy that many of us who like Mathews have discussed.

Similar strategy ... only I took him in the 2nd and got Smith in the 8th.

 

[gbill2004]

Any Mathews updates? Chances he plays week one?

 

[Beerguzzler]

He won't play week 1, but he's back doing some non contact drills to stay conditioned.

 

[gbill2004]

Ryan Mathews (fractured clavicle) returned to Chargers practice on Monday.Mathews remains unlikely to play on Monday Night Football and we don't realistically expect him to resume handling full workloads until Week 3, but this is a step in the right direction. We'll be keeping close tabs on this situation throughout the week. For now, expect Ronnie Brown and Curtis Brinkley to be San Diego's primary backs against the Raiders. Le'Ron McClain may also mix in. Jackie Battle is focusing on special teams at the moment.

 

[Jene Bramel]

No evidence that Mathews has been cleared for contact. Pictures from practice show the team in helmets and shoulder pads only. Still unlikely he'll be ready for Week 1 but this is a good sign he's getting closer. Week 2 looks to be well within reason, and it's a sign that surgeons growing more comfortable allowing players to return to contact at limits of bone healing after surgical fixation of clavicle injuries.

 

[Raider Nation]

He speaks!

 

[RBM]

He speaks!

What a rack on that broad

 

[Sabertooth]

So is Ronnie Brown the spot-start here for owners of Mathews?

 

[Raider Nation]

He speaks!

What a rack on that broad

MAN, am I ever focused. I didn't even notice that before!

 

[BoltBacker]

So is Ronnie Brown the spot-start here for owners of Mathews?

Starter yes. Take over Mathews intended work load, no.

 

[gethugefast1]

So is Ronnie Brown the spot-start here for owners of Mathews?

Starter RBBC yes. Take over Mathews intended work load, no.

fixed... IMO

 

[two_dollars]

Kevin Acee of the Union-Tribune San Diego believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3.Note that Acee is merely answering a question on Twitter here, not reporting. Still, no one has a better handle on the pulse of the Chargers. A Week 3 return would give Mathews six full weeks of recovery time. His original timetable was set at roughly 4-6 weeks. The Chargers won't hesitate to use Mathews as a workhorse back once he's healed. We like him as a second-round value pick.

Thanks for the update RN. I just noticed also that my schedule concerns were brought up by you and others at the top of page 4 of this thread. You mentioned at the Jets in week 16. I forgot to include that in my post, but yeah, that just adds to Mathews brutal looking closing fantasy schedule. And if he gets shut down by PIT in week 14, you may not even have the luxury of worrying about week 16 at the JETS. Guess a guy should look at drafting Mathews at the best value possible, hope he goes off for a few weeks in a row starting in week 3 (when he will most likely be back), and then trade him, if possible. I say just completely stay away from Mathews, cross him off of your cheatsheet.

How'd that work last year when he dropped 2 TDs on the OMGRavens rush D in week 15? I remember that because it was against me and knocked me out of the semi finals

 

[Raider Nation]

Ryan Mathews (collarbone) has accepted he won't play Monday night against the Raiders and has reset his sights on a Week 2 return.

"I haven't been cleared for contact, and I think we're just going to wait this week," Mathews said. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. ... The next game, that's what I'm looking for now. I don't know about the team, but me personally, now I'm looking for that (Week 2) game against Tennessee." Mathews' injury occurred on August 9, and the Chargers-Titans game will occur on September 16, giving him 38 days off. His original timetable was 4-6 weeks.

 

[shadyridr]

Ryan Mathews (collarbone) has accepted he won't play Monday night against the Raiders and has reset his sights on a Week 2 return.

"I haven't been cleared for contact, and I think we're just going to wait this week," Mathews said. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. ... The next game, that's what I'm looking for now. I don't know about the team, but me personally, now I'm looking for that (Week 2) game against Tennessee." Mathews' injury occurred on August 9, and the Chargers-Titans game will occur on September 16, giving him 38 days off. His original timetable was 4-6 weeks.

not sure why the thumbups. He was looking to play week 1. Now hes refocusing his efforts on week 2.

 

[Raider Nation]

Ryan Mathews (collarbone) has accepted he won't play Monday night against the Raiders and has reset his sights on a Week 2 return.

"I haven't been cleared for contact, and I think we're just going to wait this week," Mathews said. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. ... The next game, that's what I'm looking for now. I don't know about the team, but me personally, now I'm looking for that (Week 2) game against Tennessee." Mathews' injury occurred on August 9, and the Chargers-Titans game will occur on September 16, giving him 38 days off. His original timetable was 4-6 weeks.

not sure why the thumbups. He was looking to play week 1. Now hes refocusing his efforts on week 2.

Most reasonable people expected him back week 3.Week 2 is better than week 3.

 

[shadyridr]

Ryan Mathews (collarbone) has accepted he won't play Monday night against the Raiders and has reset his sights on a Week 2 return.

"I haven't been cleared for contact, and I think we're just going to wait this week," Mathews said. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. ... The next game, that's what I'm looking for now. I don't know about the team, but me personally, now I'm looking for that (Week 2) game against Tennessee." Mathews' injury occurred on August 9, and the Chargers-Titans game will occur on September 16, giving him 38 days off. His original timetable was 4-6 weeks.

not sure why the thumbups. He was looking to play week 1. Now hes refocusing his efforts on week 2.

Most reasonable people expected him back week 3.Week 2 is better than week 3.

ok but hes not saying he'll be back week 2. he just said he is now focusing on week 2, where as before today he was focusing on week 1.

 

[Raider Nation]

Ryan Mathews (collarbone) has accepted he won't play Monday night against the Raiders and has reset his sights on a Week 2 return.

"I haven't been cleared for contact, and I think we're just going to wait this week," Mathews said. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. ... The next game, that's what I'm looking for now. I don't know about the team, but me personally, now I'm looking for that (Week 2) game against Tennessee." Mathews' injury occurred on August 9, and the Chargers-Titans game will occur on September 16, giving him 38 days off. His original timetable was 4-6 weeks.

not sure why the thumbups. He was looking to play week 1. Now hes refocusing his efforts on week 2.

Most reasonable people expected him back week 3.Week 2 is better than week 3.

ok but hes not saying he'll be back week 2. he just said he is now focusing on week 2, where as before today he was focusing on week 1.

Yeah, it never mattered to me that he was "focusing" on week 1. That wasn't realistic.Scroll up a bit to read Jene's post. He nailed it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Need a little help trying to figure this guy out. I have an oppertunity to grab him for what I think is a pretty good price but honestly I know nothing about the guy. I may have watched 2-3 SD games over the past couple of years and while he looks good his numbers just don't. Whats going on with him this year? Coaching? Injuries? Both? What are his long term prospects?

TIA

 

[Mile High]

Need a little help trying to figure this guy out. I have an oppertunity to grab him for what I think is a pretty good price but honestly I know nothing about the guy. I may have watched 2-3 SD games over the past couple of years and while he looks good his numbers just don't. Whats going on with him this year? Coaching? Injuries? Both? What are his long term prospects?TIA

Coaching and he fumbled 2 times so this season he is only playing 1st and 2nd downs. Gets pulled on every 3rd down play. Isn't in on the 2 minute offense and doesn't get goal line work.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Need a little help trying to figure this guy out. I have an oppertunity to grab him for what I think is a pretty good price but honestly I know nothing about the guy. I may have watched 2-3 SD games over the past couple of years and while he looks good his numbers just don't. Whats going on with him this year? Coaching? Injuries? Both? What are his long term prospects?TIA

Coaching and he fumbled 2 times so this season he is only playing 1st and 2nd downs. Gets pulled on every 3rd down play. Isn't in on the 2 minute offense and doesn't get goal line work.

What do you attribute the second sentance to? Coaching or talent?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Need a little help trying to figure this guy out. I have an oppertunity to grab him for what I think is a pretty good price but honestly I know nothing about the guy. I may have watched 2-3 SD games over the past couple of years and while he looks good his numbers just don't. Whats going on with him this year? Coaching? Injuries? Both? What are his long term prospects?TIA

Coaching and he fumbled 2 times so this season he is only playing 1st and 2nd downs. Gets pulled on every 3rd down play. Isn't in on the 2 minute offense and doesn't get goal line work.

What do you attribute the second sentance to? Coaching or talent?

Coaching. He caught 50 balls last year and looked damn good doing it.

 

[Mile High]

Need a little help trying to figure this guy out. I have an oppertunity to grab him for what I think is a pretty good price but honestly I know nothing about the guy. I may have watched 2-3 SD games over the past couple of years and while he looks good his numbers just don't. Whats going on with him this year? Coaching? Injuries? Both? What are his long term prospects?TIA

Coaching and he fumbled 2 times so this season he is only playing 1st and 2nd downs. Gets pulled on every 3rd down play. Isn't in on the 2 minute offense and doesn't get goal line work.

What do you attribute the second sentance to? Coaching or talent?

Coaching. He caught 50 balls last year and looked damn good doing it.

Agree with SameSong. I think he has more talent then the guys he is in a RBBC with, but I'm not a coach and don't know what is going on inside the Chargers. Since SD is still in it don't see them changing things.

 

[duaneok66]

I haven't read the whole thread -

but has anyone mentioned his blocking - since the OL is suspect, maybe they trust Brown to be a better blocker . . . I am guessing that's it.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I haven't read the whole thread - but has anyone mentioned his blocking - since the OL is suspect, maybe they trust Brown to be a better blocker . . . I am guessing that's it.

I'm honestly not sure as to whether he is proficient at pass pro. I've taken it into consideration and came to the conclusion that Brown must be better. However, I believe the possible reward of getting Mathews into space when you're in need of points far outweighs the risk of Rivers being hurried/sacked even more so than he already has this year. No one on that team can change the landscape of the game like Mathews can. The entire offense should be centered around him. Dumping off a ball to R.Brown when you're down a score does not win football games..it just doesn't.I acquired Mathews right before his "breakout" game vs. NO and swiftly traded him the following week for McGahee. I only owned him for a very short period and this topic still manages to piss me off. What's going on in SD this year is criminal from a fantasy and real life perspective.