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S Damar Hamlin, BUF (1 Viewer)

I was aware of MIN OT Korey Stringer's death from heat stroke during training camp back in 2001.
Vikings football player dies of heat stroke August 2, 2001

And of the 1978 hit on NE WR Daryl Stingley by OAK DB Jack Tatum that left him paralyzed for life.
Darryl Stingley, paralyzed by Tatum hit, dies at 55

I wasn't aware of these other past devastating injuries.
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I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.

Hamlin is currently in day 3 of his medically induced coma and is reportedly starting to show big signs of improvement.

There was also a Utah State basketball player that suffered full cardiac arrest on the court in 2013. I don't know the circumstances behind his recovery but he is now a fully functioning adult as well.

Response time is so critical and it seems like they were on top of that with Hamlin. As others said in the original thread, if something like this is going to happen there's basically no better place it could happen other than maybe if you're already in a hospital with the doctor already in the room.
 
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FreeBaGeL said:
I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.
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This would be such a great outcome, I can only imagine how loud the cheers would be if Hamlin steps back on the field.
 
foxco said:
FreeBaGeL said:
I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.
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This would be such a great outcome, I can only imagine how loud the cheers would be if Hamlin steps back on the field.
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I’m actually wondering, and maybe I’m getting WAAAYYYY too far ahead of where he is right now, but if he were able to give a “thumbs up”, and the family allow a picture of that to be displayed at games this weekend. Buffalo does play at home this weekend. That place would explode if a picture of him showed up on the Jumbotron giving a thumbs up.
 
Bracie Smathers said:
I was aware of MIN OT Korey Stringer's death from heat stroke during training camp back in 2001.
Vikings football player dies of heat stroke August 2, 2001

And of the 1978 hit on NE WR Daryl Stingley by OAK DB Jack Tatum that left him paralyzed for life.
Darryl Stingley, paralyzed by Tatum hit, dies at 55

I wasn't aware of these other past devastating injuries.
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Remembering the tragic day Detroit Lions' Chuck Hughes died on the field 50 years ago
Picture
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The AFL which 'basically' became the AFC had its share of devastating injuries and deaths during play.
----------
LINK
Pete Damilatis
@PeteDamilatis
Stone Johnson, a Chiefs kick returner (and Olympic sprinter) who died after suffering a broken neck in an AFL preseason game:

Pete Damilatis
@PeteDamilatis
Howard Glenn, a NY Titans OL who died after suffering a broken neck during an AFL game:
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Stingley is the grandfather of Derek Stingley, #3 overall pick by Houston
I didn't know that
 
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FreeBaGeL said:
I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.

Hamlin is currently in day 3 of his medically induced coma and is reportedly starting to show big signs of improvement.

There was also a Utah State basketball player that suffered full cardiac arrest on the court in 2013. I don't know the circumstances behind his recovery but he is now a fully functioning adult as well.

Response time is so critical and it seems like they were on top of that with Hamlin. As others said in the original thread, if something like this is going to happen there's basically no better place it could happen other than maybe if you're already in a hospital with the doctor already in the room.
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I think Keyontae had an actual underlying heart issue too.
I guess we don't know that Hamlin doesn't at this point.
 
matttyl said:
foxco said:
FreeBaGeL said:
I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.
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This would be such a great outcome, I can only imagine how loud the cheers would be if Hamlin steps back on the field.
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I’m actually wondering, and maybe I’m getting WAAAYYYY too far ahead of where he is right now, but if he were able to give a “thumbs up”, and the family allow a picture of that to be displayed at games this weekend. Buffalo does play at home this weekend. That place would explode if a picture of him showed up on the Jumbotron giving a thumbs up.
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The worldwide cheering of the Bills during the playoffs is going to be off the charts, as it should be. And if not the Bills if they lose, then the Bengals for the incredible class and support they demonstrated.
 
zamboni said:
The worldwide cheering of the Bills during the playoffs is going to be off the charts, as it should be. And if not the Bills if they lose, then the Bengals for the incredible class and support they demonstrated.
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Coach Bill will be coaching no differently.
 
SoBeDad said:
zamboni said:
The worldwide cheering of the Bills during the playoffs is going to be off the charts, as it should be. And if not the Bills if they lose, then the Bengals for the incredible class and support they demonstrated.
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Coach Bill will be coaching no differently.
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As one would expect. But anyone not on the Pats or fans of the Pats will be pulling hard for the Bills from this week on.
 
Wow. A couple Doc's giving an update, televised on NFLN now. Apparently Damar was alert enough last night to "respond to commands" and he even asked* who won the game.

Goosebumps...

* - Correction, he is still not able to speak due to the breathing tube, but he 'asked' the question in writing.
 
Grigs Allmoon said:
Wow. A couple Doc's giving an update, televised on NFLN now. Apparently Damar was alert enough last night to "respond to commands" and he even asked* who won the game.

Goosebumps...

* - Correction, he is still not able to speak due to the breathing tube, but he 'asked' the question in writing.
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Best news of the week.
 
Chris Pronger collapsed because is heart skipped a beat he said. He was lucky regained consciousness on his own and never missed a game. I know it's different for Hamlin but there is hope!
 
Combing the twitterverse, Hamlin is moving his hands and feet. Can't talk yet, but apparently first thing he wrote down was "Who won the game?"
 
SoBeDad said:
Please don't tell him about the $6,000,000 just yet. It might cause some heart palpitations.
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Sounds like they may have told him about that already.

I was really hoping they'd hold that info until he was a bit more coherent, and able to respond. Either way, it warms my heart to imagine how much joy that will bring such a selfless, generous, good dude.
 
jm192 said:
matttyl said:
He apparently wrote “who won the game”, and his doctors replied with “you did.”
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They said some corny line of “you won the game of life.” Hamlin’s seriously thinking about the 1 seed.
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"The Bengals won by two. Jaquan Johnson fell down and gave up a 65 yard TD as time expired [pause] Nah, we're just busting your balls a little!"

This is why I'm not a doctor.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I think the most similar case to this by far is Keyontae Johnson, who suffered cardiac arrest during a Florida/FSU basketball game in 2020. He was in a medically induced coma for 3 days and ultimately pulled through, and 2 years later started playing basketball again.

Hamlin is currently in day 3 of his medically induced coma and is reportedly starting to show big signs of improvement.

There was also a Utah State basketball player that suffered full cardiac arrest on the court in 2013. I don't know the circumstances behind his recovery but he is now a fully functioning adult as well.

Response time is so critical and it seems like they were on top of that with Hamlin. As others said in the original thread, if something like this is going to happen there's basically no better place it could happen other than maybe if you're already in a hospital with the doctor already in the room.
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Would change that to already in an ICU room, or maybe a big hospital ER already on the monitor. Critical care nurses are all fully ACLS trained, floor nurses know CPR but can struggle with something like this.
 
I feel like the NFL deserves some serious credit here too.

The last major heart trauma on an NFL field was 50 years ago. To say that it would be easy to get complacent about something like that is an understatement. But here they are, 50 years later, still paying people to be ready for this once in a lifetime event. And not just there in name or as a checkbox for appearances, but people trained, on top of their game, on their toes as if this could happen at any moment, even though the last time it happened was 20 years before they were even born.

Everyone always focuses on the bad, especially with player safety (concussions, etc), but it's pretty remarkable that for something that hasn't happened in 50 years, we've come out of it saying that this was just about the best place in the world for this to happen because they were so well prepared for it.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I feel like the NFL deserves some serious credit here too.

The last major heart trauma on an NFL field was 50 years ago. To say that it would be easy to get complacent about something like that is an understatement. But here they are, 50 years later, still paying people to be ready for this once in a lifetime event. And not just there in name or as a checkbox for appearances, but people trained, on top of their game, on their toes as if this could happen at any moment, even though the last time it happened was 20 years before they were even born.

Everyone always focuses on the bad, especially with player safety (concussions, etc), but it's pretty remarkable that for something that hasn't happened in 50 years, we've come out of it saying that this was just about the best place in the world for this to happen because they were so well prepared for it.
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The protocol in place saved his life. The protocol had the EMT’s present to have a lightning response to save his life.

Great post.
 
There is a lot more that just the EMTs (I posted this in the other thread):

On the field from the NFL:
There is a home UNC doc
Visitor UNC doc
Airway/critical care doc
Visiting team medical liaison doc
usually two EMS teams of 2-3 medics with one ambulance
there is also a UNC doc in the booth with 2 AT spotters to watch the feeds in real time and call down to field if necessary to pull a player

Any other medical staff is employed by each team including trainers, and at least 3 docs on the sideline, sometimes more

Airway/critical care doc is in completely in charge in this situation, it's all in the protocols we train in yearly
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I feel like the NFL deserves some serious credit here too.

The last major heart trauma on an NFL field was 50 years ago. To say that it would be easy to get complacent about something like that is an understatement. But here they are, 50 years later, still paying people to be ready for this once in a lifetime event. And not just there in name or as a checkbox for appearances, but people trained, on top of their game, on their toes as if this could happen at any moment, even though the last time it happened was 20 years before they were even born.

Everyone always focuses on the bad, especially with player safety (concussions, etc), but it's pretty remarkable that for something that hasn't happened in 50 years, we've come out of it saying that this was just about the best place in the world for this to happen because they were so well prepared for it.
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Not only for the players, but also for the thousands of fans that attend each week. Regardless, I'm glad to hear the young man is showing signs of improvement.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I feel like the NFL deserves some serious credit here too.

The last major heart trauma on an NFL field was 50 years ago. To say that it would be easy to get complacent about something like that is an understatement. But here they are, 50 years later, still paying people to be ready for this once in a lifetime event. And not just there in name or as a checkbox for appearances, but people trained, on top of their game, on their toes as if this could happen at any moment, even though the last time it happened was 20 years before they were even born.

Everyone always focuses on the bad, especially with player safety (concussions, etc), but it's pretty remarkable that for something that hasn't happened in 50 years, we've come out of it saying that this was just about the best place in the world for this to happen because they were so well prepared for it.
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Love this. Great posting.
 
This is interesting.

Since the CTE settlement only 6.5% of claims have been paid when over 60% have an underlying diagnosis but have not been paid.

Hamlin has been in the league for 2 years, meaning he's not vested in the pension so if he doesn't play another down, he doesn't get another check.

We all saw it and know that it is possible that Hamlin may need extensive care for the remainder of his life.
The NFL makes a ton of money, they'll do the right thing and will take care of it.

Not so much.

The disability policy for the NFL.
Benefits for players requiring extensive care have been decreased from $22,000 a month to $4,000 a month. This is what a 'typical' elder care facility charges.

Only 15% of people who apply for disability benefits through Social Security are approved but even if Social Security deems a player to be permanently disabled the league has a private review board that seeks to deny benefits even if Social Security decrees that the player to be permanently disabled.

Additionally, the league has changed pension benefits out where players are not eligible for benefits until age 55 and have decreased those benefits from $5,600 a month to only $3,000 a month.

Side note, the owner who forced those changes into the bargaining agreement has a net worth of over $7 billion.
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Here's the scary side of the Damar Hamlin story nobody but
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GFM for his foundation is up to $7.863Mn (225K donations)

Saw quite a FF leagues in the donara list with gifts between $1K-4K

awesome stuff
 
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Bills-safety-Hamlin-back-in-Buffalo-to-resume-17705685.php

"ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — Doctors who treated Damar Hamlin said the Bills safety was back in Buffalo on Monday, an uplifting sign of the remarkable progress he has made a week after going into cardiac arrest and having to be resuscitated on the field during a game in Cincinnati.

Hamlin was discharged from the University of Cincinnati Medical Center in the morning and flown to Buffalo, where Dr. William Knight said he was "doing well....”

(y)
 
kodycutter said:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Bills-safety-Hamlin-back-in-Buffalo-to-resume-17705685.php

"ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — Doctors who treated Damar Hamlin said the Bills safety was back in Buffalo on Monday, an uplifting sign of the remarkable progress he has made a week after going into cardiac arrest and having to be resuscitated on the field during a game in Cincinnati.

Hamlin was discharged from the University of Cincinnati Medical Center in the morning and flown to Buffalo, where Dr. William Knight said he was "doing well....”

(y)
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Pretty wild and totally awesome.
 
Wow. Great news for the young man. I'm thrilled.

Not to get too sidetracked about the important things, but I wish all that money going to charity could ethically and legally go to his continuing care. That's going to be expensive. I'll bet, if upon reflection (and honestly my first thoughts when I heard about it), people knew the uphill climb he'll face for job security and stability, they might have donated straight to him.

But that's another issue for another time.
 
rockaction said:
Wow. Great news for the young man. I'm thrilled.

Not to get too sidetracked about the important things, but I wish all that money going to charity could ethically and legally go to his continuing care. That's going to be expensive. I'll bet, if upon reflection (and honestly my first thoughts when I heard about it), people knew the uphill climb he'll face for job security and stability, they might have donated straight to him.

But that's another issue for another time.
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Well, since it happened during the game, the Bills/NFL will be picking up all his medical bills.

As for his professional future, sure, that’s definitely at risk, but NFL players are one play away from never playing again for all sorts of injuries. At least in his case the Bills worked out a deal with the NFL and NFLPA to pay him his full salary this year even though players on IR typically have a clause that pays them less when they are on IR (I didn’t even know that until reading about this).
 
zamboni said:
Would be insane if he is physically able to make it to the game next weekend and watch.
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Would be awesome, but latest update I read is that he was flown to Buffalo but was just transferred to a hospital there where he is still receiving treatment there until he is released. At the rate of his recovery, it does seem possible, but I don’t think that doctors are going to cut corners just to try to get him to the game.
 
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