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***San Francisco 49ers 2007 Offseason*** (1 Viewer)

derek19

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Damn, the season goes by way to fast. I wish the 9ers could of played the seahawks acouple more times.. :D

I am very pleased with the job Mike Nolan has done in the two years he has been the head coach. In his first year as head coach, the niners finished with a 4-12 record. Two more wins than the previous year. After his second season, the niners finished the season with a 7-9 record. Just acouple of wins away from the wildcard spot.

Anyone who has watched the Niners this season knows that the Niners need a lot of help on Defense. The biggest need is a monster LB and a shutdown corner. DL may become a need if BY decides he doesn't want to comeback for another season.

Here is my FA Wishlist (in order of what I would want):

LB's:

Adalius Thomas, UFA, Baltimore Ravens (3-4) (Has ties with Mike Nolan)

Lance Briggs, UFA, Chicago Bears (3-4)

Cato June, UFA, Indianapolis Colts (4-3)

CB's:

Nate Clements, UFA, Buffalo Bills

Asante Samuel UFA New England Patriots

DL:

Justin Smith, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals (If BY decides to retire)

Terdell Sands UFA Oakland Raiders

The Niners draft 11th right after ATL. Which kind of sucks if you ask me. If the Niners are able to sign Adalius Thomas and Asante Samuel, I would love for them to draft Teddy Ginn Jr at the 11th spot. But I don't think he will get past ATL. If he even falls that far.

Feel free to add, bash or whatever :D

GO NINERS!!!

 
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Hell of a "wish" list......if they get one of those guy's I hope it's Nate Clements. As for Ted Ginn.....he is gone by their pick. I hope the work a deal to even strengthen their already excellent "quantity" of early picks and move down and get USC's Jarrett or Smith. I'll bet there are 8-10 difference making WR's picked in the first 2 rds. Even an early rd. 2 jump to get the next great "Rice"......perfect fit!!!! But even if they take (LB) Willis at 11, they will have quite a few options to land a very good WR later. I know that sounds crazy, and I'm not thinking in terms of how the Saints got Colston......but I saw alot of REAL good WR's play this season. :lmao:

 
I didn't mean it like i wish the niners sign all those players. Those are the players i wish and hope the niners go after. I just wish we get at least one of them.

 
Good list. I hear the Niners are looking to spend money on FAs this year.

As bad as the D is, the Niners badly need a WR1. Battle was the best WR on the team this year, but he's really not very good. I hope they draft either Ginn or Jarrett.

Other names out there are Revis and Willis. Posluszny would also be a great guy to draft IMO, his value has gone down a bit because of injuries.

 
I agree with Derek19 in that I'm very pleased with Nolan's work over the first two years. I was at the Seahawks game when Smith threw for two and ran for one TD in the 4th quarter; it was very refreshing to see him look so "in control." I felt like it was a game in which he really grew up.

Of course, the next week they lost to Arizona at home, handing the division to Seattle. That's a bit disconcerting.

As far as FA pickups go, I'd love to see Adalius Thomas in SF with a shot to prove he's the man. Briggs, IMO, is a guy who needs Urlacher beside him (and Harris and Johnson in front of him) to make plays...he obviously would not have those things in SF.

I've seen many mocks tabbing a DB for the 49ers in Round 1, but I'd love to see them sign a DB in FA and pickup Jarret in the 1st round, assuming he falls that far (may be a big assumption).

 
Thanks Derek for starting this thread…Count me as someone who is also happy with the direction that the team is going. In the two years that Nolan and McCloughan have operated the team, they’ve followed their initial blueprint very well and they have brought talented and high-character players back into the organization.

We’re in a great place salary cap-wise- it shouldn’t be jeopardized by overpaying for players in FA that are not considered cornerstone-type players. It would seem Clements or Thomas would fit that description, but I’ll leave that to better talent evaluators. I could see them giving Gore a big bonus in a new contract and applying it toward next year’s cap to minimize the impact of the balance of his contract… I can see them continuing to sign second and third-tier, yet still productive players like Walt Harris and Larry Allen.

I do not want them to spend a first on a wide receiver- the track record for teams drafting a wide out in the first rounder is spotty at best. I think Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald are the closest things to sure bets the past few years- everyone else is a crap shoot (in varying degrees) in my opinion. A high-risk pick at WR when we can have BPA on defense doesn’t make sense to me. Not to mention, there is not enough evidence that the Niners can properly evaluate wide-receivers in the draft. There are a lot of otherwise successful teams (Eagles, Falcons to name two) that have problems in this area.

I think the offense will be solid enough as they have another year to mature in the same offense. It’s easy to forget that Smith and Gore are just entering their third years and Vernon Davis his second. If Davis becomes the playmaker they envision, then Bryant and Battle are good enough and they can bring in a second-tier receiver for depth. I also like Delanie Walker as an H-back to add dimension to the offense.

They have to focus on rebuilding the defense. Ultimately, this is where Nolan would like the strength of the team to lie and the future begins now. I’ve said before that I think they will perennially draft run-stuffers and defensive playmakers at the top of their drafts, similar to what the Ravens do year-to-year.

 
In House

1. Do whatever possible to continue Alex Smith's development. Next season hinges on his ability to improve.

2. Make up your mind Nolan. Go 3-4 or 4-3. I'm a fan of the 4-3.

3. Move Brandon Moore inside. He's the penetrating,attacking downhill hitter the team needs. No more mighty mouse Ulbrich, or Smith tripping a guy 7 yds downfield.

4. Kwame Harris is history. I don't want to see his sorry ### on the field again. I really thought Snyder would beat him in camp, still not sure what happened there...but Snyder seemed to regress this year. Re-evaluate the RT position and give Snyder a fair shot, or address it in FA. Harris is awful.

Top 4 areas of need: CB, DE, WR, RT

Free Agency

I'd love to see the Niners acquire a true #1 CB like Clements this offseason. Spencer is a solid #2 CB, and Harris would be an outstanding #3 CB. Its foolish to expect Harris to duplicate last season's career year. Samuel wouldn't be a bad consolation prize either.

The only player on the O side of the ball I'd like to take a look at is DJ Hackett. It will be interesting to see what Seattle tenders him at. Not only would his signing hurt Seattle, but I think this kid could be a legit starter. I think this area has to be addressed in the draft at some point. Gilmore can't be our #3 again next year :lmao:

There are some nice DEs who might see FA, but a big name guy like Freeney/Allen would kill our cap room...and if Nolan goes back to the 3-4 like he's hinted, a smaller speed pass rushing guy doesn't fit. Again, make up your mind Nolan. I like the Terdell Sands call. He should be affordable, and play both the 4-3 and 3-4.

The FA OL list is ugly for RTs. I don't see any rookie being able to step in and play, so Snyder/Harris it will have to be. Love to see some solid vet with a year left cut for cap reasons prior to camp.

Draft

This team is still not good enough to target positions....but McG and Nolan have shown they will target a need spot. The way I'm seeing mocks go, this will be either Jarrett or Revis. Here on the west coast, I've never seen Revis, but Jarrett is plenty good and would be an outstanding addition. Depth is needed at both outside spots (CB, WR), safety, DL, and LB. I think we are fine at OL (besides RT), QB, RB and TE (if EJ stays).

My best scenario: overpay Clements. Jarrett falls to us. The CB from Fresno falls to us in Rd2.

 
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Awesome thread Derek19!!

Is it a given that Bryant is gone? No one's really posted about him in this thread but I think they should let him go. Kevin Lynch (beat writer) said that he gets a sense that Nolan will give AB another shot next year....we'll see.

As for FA's and the draft, I've learned more about who's available in this thread than anywhere else, so thank you again. Y'all know far more about potential FA and the draft than I do but here's my 2 cents:

Nolan is absolutely on the right track. It is so hilarious to listen to Derek Deese on Fox Sports talk about how Nolan is a "my way or highway" kinda guy and how "Nolan needs to bring in veteran guys".....My guess is that old Deese is having a difficult time letting go. Derek, the Niners swept SEA and kicked DEN out of the playoffs.....he's doing something right. Bitter much???? :ph34r:

Back on topic, as stated above I think they should let Bryant go...not worth the headache

And more than anything they need D-line. I don't care if they draft 3 D-linemen with their first 3 picks; get some dudes in there that can pressure the QB and stop the run. I know, every team needs to do that but I think our DB's are decent; with a good pass rush they become above average.

O-Line, as someone else stated Kwame must go.

My wishlist draft or otherwise is:

DL

OL

WR

LB

Go Niners!!!!

 
I don't get to watch the Niners much because of my location and lack of NFL Network. So, my opinions are solely based on the Denver game and the 2nd Seattle game (both televised in Pittsburgh, for some reason).

Anyway, I guess things are looking up for the Niners and they seem to be on the right track. I still think they have a ton of needs, so the only thing I would argue for is BPA from top to bottom in this draft. It's not worth reaching at any draft spot.

The only thing I have to say about the CB position is that it seems they have been drafting a CB high (#1 or #2) for what seems like forever. And yet they still have terrible pass defense. This tells me that either:

(1) They cannot evaluate CBs properly and they keep picking busts.

(2) The problems lie elsewhere (like a lack of a pass rush as has been stated).

I lean towards #2 based on what I saw this year. Of course that wasn't much :excited:

 
I don't get to watch the Niners much because of my location and lack of NFL Network. So, my opinions are solely based on the Denver game and the 2nd Seattle game (both televised in Pittsburgh, for some reason).Anyway, I guess things are looking up for the Niners and they seem to be on the right track. I still think they have a ton of needs, so the only thing I would argue for is BPA from top to bottom in this draft. It's not worth reaching at any draft spot.The only thing I have to say about the CB position is that it seems they have been drafting a CB high (#1 or #2) for what seems like forever. And yet they still have terrible pass defense. This tells me that either:(1) They cannot evaluate CBs properly and they keep picking busts.(2) The problems lie elsewhere (like a lack of a pass rush as has been stated).I lean towards #2 based on what I saw this year. Of course that wasn't much :unsure:
#1 has to be a wideout#2 OL larry allen is 50 years old#3 any help on Dthe 9ers play in a real bad divison with a good draft and some FA they could win it next year :cry:
 
the 9ers play in a real bad divison with a good draft and some FA they could win it next year
Starting next year, the NFC West will no longer be the joke it has been the last few years. Seattle has a talented roster and should have a bounce back season next year. (Not to mention the fact they are currently alive in the playoffs.) The Rams finished strong this past year- we’ll have to see how they develop on defense.The Cardinals, surprisingly, are the team that the Forty-Niners need to build a defense to match up against. While the Niners swept the Seahawks this year and the Rams last year, they are 0-4 against Arizona the last two years. The Niners defense, in its current state, can not handle physical receivers like Boldin and also expect to keep down Fitzgerald. The right hire in Arizona will make the Cardinals a dangerous team. I think if they had kept Dennis Green for another year, they would be a dangerous team next year.The Niners can be a better team next year and still have similar record to this year’s due to transitions/growing pains in the defense.
 
Kevin Lynch, SF Chronicle. 1/5/07:

"We have the $40 million (of salary-cap space) and everybody is excited, but if you spend it wrong, it doesn't help you," director of player personnel Scot McCloughan said.

The 49ers look to improve their defense in free agency, which is where this year's market is heavily weighted.

The team will handle the market much like a draft, by ranking players 1 through 20 in the areas of need. The strategy will be to go after the big names first, then drop to lower-priced players if the bidding gets too high.

Though neither McCloughan nor head coach Mike Nolan wanted to say what the needs are, they are self evident: pass rusher, wide receiver, safety, cornerback.

The most attractive free-agent pass rushers are restricted, meaning the 49ers would have to give up a draft choice and the original team could match any offer.

Cincinnati's Robert Geathers (10.5 sacks), Kansas City's Jared Allen (7.5 sacks, 22.5 in a three-year career) and Jacksonville's Bobby McCray (10 sacks) are restricted, which generally means they've just finished their third season of play. The 49ers could hook Allen, who went to Los Gatos High, with the allure of coming back home.

In the unrestricted category are Indianapolis' Dwight Freeney, New Orleans' Charles Grant, St. Louis' Leonard Little, Cincinnati's Justin Smith and Miami's David Bowens. Unrestricted free agents have a minimum of four years of experience, and teams can acquire them without compensation.

The wide-receiver market is sparse, with the most intriguing free agents being Rams speedster Kevin Curtis, the Falcons' Ashley Lelie, who's coming off a disappointing season, and the Eagles' oft-injured Donte Stallworth. The performance of Orinda native Drew Bennett has declined the last two years, but he could be an option if he doesn't re-sign in Tennessee.

The top cornerback and perhaps this year's crown jewel is the Bills' Nate Clements, who fits most teams' criteria in youth (just turned 27), character (active in charity activities), production (voted to the Pro Bowl in '05) and durability (started 91 straight games).

New England's Asante Samuel is a distant second.

Evaluating cornerbacks in the draft can be tricky; often a terrific college player will fail in the NFL, which is one reason established cornerbacks fetch big free-agent dollars.

"It's much easier to get a corner in pro free agency than it is to get one in the draft," McCloughan said.

At safety, Seattle's Ken Hamlin, Jacksonville's Deon Grant and Philadelphia's Michael Lewis top the list.

Linebacker also could be a position in line for an upgrade, particularly if Chicago's Lance Briggs, a Sacramento native, comes with a reasonable price tag. However, the 49ers feel secure at inside linebacker with Derek Smith and Brandon Moore, and Jeff Ulbrich as a backup.

The team wants to have lots of linebackers, which makes sense and could save dollars because the 49ers will go into free agency and the draft with an eye toward converting to a 3-4 defense, McCloughan said.

The 3-4 allows a team to hide its blitzes and provides freedom for versatile players such as Manny Lawson and Moore to line up in different spots. Also, by switching to a 3-4, the 49ers can tap a new vein of talent.

"In college, you have at least 10 guys throughout the country (who) are 250 to 265 pounds, and they are not 4-3 ends, and they are not fast enough or athletic enough to be a linebacker in a 4-3," McCloughan said. "So half the teams in the league forget about them."

Also, linebackers are generally cheaper than defensive ends and they typically make the best special-teams players.

The 49ers' cap space also could be consumed by their own free agents, who include defensive tackle Bryant Young and tight end Eric Johnson. The 49ers also will try to extend running back Frank Gore's contract before it expires at the end of next season. "It's going to be a busy year," McCloughan said.

 
Re the last two posts. I think Turner has done a good job at OC but I personally think that getting Larry Allen as a free agent LG and having the prior year's free agent pickup, Jonas Jennings at LT, healthy after missing most of '05 made a huge difference, more than anything.

As for JP I didn't disagree with the decision to let him go. At $9M per (the amount they would have had to pay if they franchised him) and slower than he used to be, following a major ACL injury, and constantly complaining about money, I don't think he was the kind of player to build around. He certainly has a lot of talent but at the price I don't think Nolan thought it was even a close call.

 
Re the last two posts. I think Turner has done a good job at OC but I personally think that getting Larry Allen as a free agent LG and having the prior year's free agent pickup, Jonas Jennings at LT, healthy after missing most of '05 made a huge difference, more than anything. As for JP I didn't disagree with the decision to let him go. At $9M per (the amount they would have had to pay if they franchised him) and slower than he used to be, following a major ACL injury, and constantly complaining about money, I don't think he was the kind of player to build around. He certainly has a lot of talent but at the price I don't think Nolan thought it was even a close call.
I will have to agree with you that JP probably slowed down a lil bit after his ACL injury. Problem is, he's probably still considered one of the fastest LB's.
 
49ers loaded with draft picks, salary cap space and optimism

By Matthew Barrows - Bee Staff Writer

Last Updated 11:00 am PST Wednesday, January 3, 2007

SANTA CLARA -- Mike Nolan likes to say his 49ers are a team that builds through the draft, but some of its biggest contributors in 2006 were free-agent acquisitions.

Sunday's rousing finale in Denver was an example. San Francisco's first touchdown was scored by fullback Moran Norris, an afterthought when he was signed in May but someone who flattened enough tacklers as Frank Gore's lead blocker to earn a contract extension.

Another free agent, cornerback Walt Harris, had two interceptions in Denver, one for a touchdown. On Tuesday, Harris was named the NFC Defensive Player of the Week.

The biggest offseason addition -- in stature and salary -- was left guard Larry Allen, who helped pave the way for the league's sixth-best rushing attack and is headed for his 11th Pro Bowl next month.

The 49ers will be even more aggressive in free agency this year, Nolan said Tuesday. And if they are as successful at identifying players as they were last year, he said, he fully expects San Francisco's 2007 squad to make the playoffs for the first time in five years.

"Right now we are still the '06 team -- that's the team that's beginning to believe it can win," Nolan said. "With the offseason, then we'll become the team that expects to win. Hopefully that's what happens."

No team is in better position to make a bigger offseason splash.

The 49ers expect to have 10 draft picks, eight coming in the first four rounds because of savvy trades and compensation for lost free agents such as Julian Peterson and Andre Carter. They have the 11th overall selection in April, a position that has yielded high-impact players such as linebacker DeMarcus Ware, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and cornerback Marcus Trufant in recent years.

They also are among the top five teams as far as salary-cap space, with close to $40 million to spend in March. The 49ers will focus primarily on upgrading their 26th-ranked defense, and most of the potential top free agents -- linebackers Lance Briggs and Adalius Thomas, cornerbacks Nate Clements and Asante Samuel, to name a few -- are defenders.

Nolan said he isn't solely interested in bringing in household names.

"I would rather have a big, tough mean, ornery, smart son of a gun that gets eight sacks and stuffs the run than a guy that gets 14 and gets his bonus," he said.

Asked if that means the 49ers aren't interested in Indianapolis sack master Dwight Freeney, a possible free agent in March, Nolan said: "He's on the list. Put him in this environment and maybe he becomes the (team player). Maybe not, but he's a good player."

The fact that the 49ers jumped from 4-12 in 2005 to 7-9 this season should show potential free agents they are a team on the rise. An equally important factor is that San Francisco has a remarkably upbeat locker room.

"It's the age of the cell phone -- (free agents) talk to all the players now," Nolan said. "They call, they ask, they want to know."

Harris said the 49ers ought to be an easy sell.

"These guys -- we always have fun with each other. We're like a big family," he said Monday, the day players cleared out their lockers. Then, noting the loud banter coming from the locker room: "Some guys are going to be here for a while hanging out because they don't want to leave."

As he did last offseason, Nolan said he was interested in bringing in a blend of big-name players, such as Allen, and more anonymous ones, such as Norris.

One free agent he didn't immediately mention Tuesday was receiver Antonio Bryant, who did not attend the end-of-season team meeting Monday. Nolan declined to explain Bryant's absence.

"We'll keep that confidential," he said. "There were some things that were going on, but it doesn't affect us."

Still, Nolan said the tempestuous receiver was not a disappointment this season, despite a four-game suspension that includes the first two games of 2007.

"I'm disappointed that AB did not play the last two games for us, yes, but as far as his contributions during the season, I'm not disappointed in that," he said. "He was a good acquisition for us."

 
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With so many picks in the first four rounds (eight), the 49ers ought to be going the BPA route. I wouldn't go QB or RB at 1.11, but any other position can be improved with more talent.

 
Like the fact that we ended the season on a positive note by beating the Broncos on their own turf. The future looks bright. Since we have 8 picks in the first 4rounds we stand a good chance of several of them turning out to be really good players. Yes I think defense is the first and formost priority and then a #1 go-to-guy type receiver. I don't think there's much of a #1 wr available in free agency. I haven't really checked much to see who's available. Since we have some decent cap money maybe we should use that for some much needed defensive acquistions. We've got a few guys on D that are getting a little long in the tooth. Walt Harris is 32, Derek Smith 31 and Bryant Young will be 35 this month. We sorely need someone who can rush the passer.I'm pleased with the job Nolan and his staff have done over the last couple of years and they seem to be headed in the right direction. While we can dissect the team and come up with areas we feel need addressed I'm sure Nolan and his staff are aware of these areas and hopefully they'll be aggessive in getting the players we need. I would like to see us get Jarrett but doubt he'll be there at 11 anyway. With the money we have we should be able to get some excellant defensive help in the free agent market. Clements would be a monster addition. At this point I'm just gonna have to put faith in the Niners staff to get the right players needed to put us back where we belong, at the top :pickle:

 
Anyone who has watched the Niners this season knows that the Niners need a lot of help on Defense. The biggest need is a monster LB...
Is Julian Peterson available? Oh, wait...
:lmao: Still waiting for one of Calbear's calls on the 49ers to be correct. Third offseason has to be the charm, eh? :shrug:
You mean you're glad you got rid of a Pro Bowl linebacker when your defense wound up last in the league?
 
Anyone who has watched the Niners this season knows that the Niners need a lot of help on Defense. The biggest need is a monster LB...
Is Julian Peterson available? Oh, wait...
:bowtie: Still waiting for one of Calbear's calls on the 49ers to be correct. Third offseason has to be the charm, eh? :shrug:
You mean you're glad you got rid of a Pro Bowl linebacker when your defense wound up last in the league?
The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB. He also is a Poston client. It's not like the 49ers didn't try.
 
The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB. He also is a Poston client. It's not like the 49ers didn't try.
Ah, another good general manager tactic, choose your personnel based on who their agent is.Face it, the Niners lost their best defensive player, who they could easily have afforded to keep, and he went to the Pro Bowl while the Niner defense again wound up dead last in points allowed (and #26 in yardage allowed). It was a bonehead move.
 
The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB.

He also is a Poston client.

It's not like the 49ers didn't try.
Ah, another good general manager tactic, choose your personnel based on who their agent is.Face it, the Niners lost their best defensive player, who they could easily have afforded to keep, and he went to the Pro Bowl while the Niner defense again wound up dead last in points allowed (and #26 in yardage allowed). It was a bonehead move.
What part of "The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB" did you not get? The 49ers were last in the league on defense when Peterson was on the team also. Nolan made his offer. Peterson and his agent didn't bite.

Simple.

 
What part of "The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB" did you not get?

The 49ers were last in the league on defense when Peterson was on the team also. Nolan made his offer. Peterson and his agent didn't bite.

Simple.
"One of the richest contract the franchise ever offered for an LB" is meaningless. They didn't offer market value, and they haven't had a decent LB outside of Peterson in years.And they were last in defense in 2005, when Peterson was injured.

 
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What part of "The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB" did you not get?

The 49ers were last in the league on defense when Peterson was on the team also. Nolan made his offer. Peterson and his agent didn't bite.

Simple.
"One of the richest contract the franchise ever offered for an LB" is meaningless. They didn't offer market value, and they haven't had a decent LB outside of Peterson in years.And they were last in defense in 2005, when Peterson was injured.
From database football:
Year AGE Team LG GP SK SFY INT YDS LNG TD TOT OWR OPR YDS TD

2000 22 SFO NFL 13 4.0 0 2 33 31 0 0 0 0 0 0

2001 23 SFO NFL 14 3.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 26 1

2002 24 SFO NFL 16 2.0 0 1 2 2 0 0 0 1 3 0

2003 25 SFO NFL 16 7.0 0 2 31 31 0 0 0 0 0 0

2004 26 SFO NFL 5 2.5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0

2005 27 SFO NFL 15 3.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

6 NFL Season Totals 79 21.5 0 5 66 0 0 1 0 3 29 1
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/pl...lkid=PETERJUL01But let's not let facts get in the way of your argument here.

The 49ers franchised Peterson in 2004, the actual year he was injured, and IIRC, they also franchised him in 2005. The 49ers offer to Peterson was somewhere in the $40+ million dollar range, with a fat signing bonus to boot, but his agent (either Carl or Kieth Poston), thought they could hi-jack the 49ers into a ridiculous contract. Again, they offered the richest contract ever to a 49er LB. Now, just in case you don't know much about the Postons (it seems you don't), just read this:

Agents Who Play As Rough As Linebackers

The controversial Poston brothers are rewriting the rules on NFL salaries

In his suburban Detroit home, sports agent Kevin D. Poston displays a gallery of family photos dating back to the days when his ancestors were slaves. One of his favorites is a picture of his great-grandfather Zachary Taylor Winston, who was born into slavery and rose to become a businessman and property owner. "He couldn't write," Poston says. "He signed his name with an X."

These days, Kevin and his brother Carl C. Poston III get their star-athlete clients to sign next to the X -- and in the process score some of the richest contracts ever seen in professional football. The brothers are partners in Professional Sports Planning Inc. (PSP), which negotiates deals for more than 40 players, mostly National Football League stars. Their clients include Kellen Winslow Jr. of the Cleveland Browns, Charles Woodson of the Oakland Raiders, and Charles Rogers of the Detroit Lions.

SWEET PACKAGES

Few sports agents make life as expensive -- or as uncomfortable -- for the NFL as the Postons do. To get their way, the Postons play rougher than a blitzing linebacker. They want nothing less than to tear down the NFL's feudal salary system. The brash brothers typically represent linemen, defensive backs, and other players who traditionally have earned far less than star quarterbacks. When quarterback Peyton Manning (not their client) of the Indianapolis Colts nabbed a seven-year $98 million contract this year, with a smashing $34.5 million signing bonus, the Postons started making noise about getting "fair market value" for less visible players.

Sometimes they don't do too badly. This season, for example, PSP negotiated a six-year $40 million deal, including a $16.5 million signing bonus, for tight end Winslow, the No. 6 pick in the NFL draft. That's a sweeter package than three of the players drafted before Winslow were able to land. But their tactics also can backfire: According to the NFL Players Assn., they recently got dropped by a key client, tackle Orlando Pace. This was the second year running that the Postons failed to negotiate a long-term deal for Pace. The brothers -- who as BusinessWeek went to press said Pace hadn't yet told them he was leaving -- are said to have demanded $71 million from his team, the St. Louis Rams, leading to a standoff. They also failed to negotiate record contracts for two other marquee players, the Raiders' Woodson and San Francisco 49ers linebacker Julian Peterson. When those teams balked at the Poston proposals, the brothers held the players back from preseason training camps. The Postons won't say how much they were demanding, but NFL insiders say they asked for "Manning money."

Hogwash, says Kevin, 45, who works from his home in Farmington Hills, Mich., outside Detroit, a time zone away from Carl's office in Houston. "I never said: 'Give me Peyton Manning money.' I did say Julian was the quarterback of that defense," he says. In the end, the agents failed to reach midfield with Woodson and Peterson. They eventually slinked back to work, just in time for the season to start, after being saddled with "franchise tag" status. As such, they'll be paid the average salary of the top five at their position. It's not a bad consolation prize -- $8.8 million for a year's work, in Woodson's case -- but the Postons are still trying to negotiate long-term contracts.

TOO CONFRONTATIONAL?

The acrimonious summer fed the growing perception in the NFL that the Postons consider no salary demand too stratospheric. "Their style is almost a take-no-prisoners approach," says Kenneth L. Shropshire, director of the Wharton School's Sports Business Initiative. Shropshire, an adviser to the family of Poston client Winslow, thinks that can work to a client's advantage. But other agents accuse the Postons of being needlessly confrontational. And NFL execs -- many of whom declined to talk about the Postons -- now avoid players represented by the controversial agents, insiders say. Many believe that "Poston fatigue" was a factor in the Washington Redskins' decision to pass on Winslow. The team won't comment.

The Postons can shrug off the criticism. Their firm usually takes a 3% share of each deal its players sign, earning them millions in fees. They've come a long way, especially since they got into the business serendipitously. Carl was practicing law in Houston in 1989 when a friend referred a Houston Oilers football player who had a tax problem. At about the same time, Kevin, also a lawyer, was working on financing for a new basketball arena outside Detroit. They decided to try their hands as agents, printed up a brochure, and began a tour of NFL tryouts, college stadiums, and the living rooms of prospects such as defensive back Terrell Buckley, their first star client.

The brothers never doubted their competence, having acquired a sense of confidence as children in Saginaw, Mich. Unlike many of their friends, the Postons grew up valuing education and business ownership. Their father, Carl Poston Jr., now 81, was a lawyer and one of the first blacks on the Saginaw City Council. His wife, Thelma, 74, was the first black to earn a real estate license in the Saginaw area, say Kevin and Carl.

For the most part, the Postons inspire intense loyalty among clients. Pace apparently got restless. But others look to them as older brothers and seek their advice about everything from girlfriends to cars. Carl's cell phone rings nonstop with calls from players checking in. "You're getting a haircut? Nice life," chides Carl when Woodson calls. A few minutes later he is joking with defensive back Ty Law. "I can talk to Carl and Kevin about issues in my life," Law says. "They're like my family."

Still, controversy dogs the Postons with each new deal. Redskins star linebacker LaVar Arrington, another client, is ensnared in an arbitration over whether the team negotiated one contract and then -- unbeknownst to Carl, he says -- slipped Arrington another to sign, minus a $6.5 million bonus. "If the agent admits he didn't read the contract, that's worrisome," says one player rep who asked not to be named. Carl says he's confident that Arrington will prevail in the arbitration. Arrington stands by the Postons.

Then there's the race question: All of the Postons' clients are African American, leading some Poston-bashers to speculate that PSP prefers to represent only blacks. Such talk mostly amuses the Postons. "We'd love to represent [white stars] Peyton Manning and Zach Thomas," says Carl, 49. "We don't get the time of day from white players and their families."

Even so, the Poston empire continues to expand. This year PSP added two first-round draft picks: Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Reggie Williams and Chris Gamble of the Carolina Panthers. In a field where success is measured in greenbacks, it seems no amount of controversy will stop these brothers from reaching the end zone.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...39/b3901094.htmCarl Poston's license was suspended from NFLPA for the Arrington deal, BTW.

Peterson wound up getting around $54 million/7 years from the Seahawks.

Now, despite Peterson's sub-par play in 2005, and coming off a major injury to boot, the 49ers were still willing to negotiate a deal, but, as you can see by the article posted, there was no way the Postons were gonna bite on that deal. During the 2005 season, Nolan wasn't impressed enough with Peterson to break the bank on him. The 49er's needs are too great on both sides of the ball.

Guess what? Like you see in this thread, the 49ers have $40 million dollars in cap space, 8 picks in the first 4 rounds, one of them a compensatory pick for Peterson. Nolan's, as well as Scott McGloughan's, moves have been solid. Getting 2 picks (a 3rd and a 4th) for a waste of roster space in Brandon Lloyd was another good move. Why Vinnie Ceratto still has a job in the NFL is beyond me.

You get a cookie for correcting yourself bringing up the 49er's 2006 defensive ranking from last to 28th. It still doesn't make you anymore credible, but it's nice to see you correct an obvious overreaction.

Of course, thats gonna happen when you don't know what you're talking about.

My goal isn't to discredit you (you do a fine job of that yourself), or illustrate your obvious bias/hard-on towards the 49ers. I'm just informing you of what the reality of the situation was.

 
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Some more news:

Gore

"It's a priority," Nolan said of a new contract for Gore. "It was talked about since before Frank started to show up on all of your radar screens because of what we knew about Frank."

"While Rosenhaus is likely to seek a contract that makes Gore among the top-three backs in the league, the 49ers are believed to see Gore being compensated along the lines of the top 10 backs."

BY

—Veteran defensive lineman Bryant Young has not officially made his plans known for next season, but Nolan said he believes Young has a lot to offer on the field and off. He also said he believes Young has the desire to continue playing.

"My feeling is that he still has gas in his tank — inside of him, not just physically, which is what I can see," Nolan said. "That will be his decision."

Young is not under contract for next season, but he has said that if he does not play for the 49ers, he will not play in 2007.

AB

—Coach Mike Nolan still holds out hope that receiver Antonio Bryant can be a contributor for the 49ers in the future. The NFL suspended Bryant four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy. He served two games at the end of the season, and will also be ineligible to play in the first two regular-season games of 2007.

"Looking back down the road I will be able to answer that a little more accurately," Nolan said when asked if Bryant was a disappointment. "I'm disappointed that Antonio did not play the last two games for us. As far as his contributions during the season, I'm not disappointed in that."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/niners/home.htm

 
Some news about the coaching vacancies......

--Donnie Henderson (fired as Lions defensive coordinator Jan. 2) - Interviewed Jan. 13, and went out to dinner that night with Mike Nolan. Henderson and Nolan worked together with the Ravens for two seasons, including two years when Nolan was the defensive coordinator and Henderson was the defensive backs coach. Apparently, Nolan had his differences with Henderson when they worked together, but Nolan respects Henderson's coaching ability.

Others who might become factors:

--Mike Singletary (49ers assistant head coach/LBs) -- He had an interview for the Falcons' head-coaching job, though Bobby Petrino ended up getting hired. It's doubtful Singletary would get the 49ers' defensive coordinator job if he's still available because Mike Nolan prefers somebody with a little more experience. That would enable Nolan to back away from the down-to-down involvement of running the defense and concentrate on managing the game.

--Wade Phillips (Chargers def. coordinator) -- Marty Schottenheimer might have to win a couple games in the playoffs to be back next season. If Schottenheimer gets fired, Phillips could land with the 49ers. Nolan and Phillips coached together in Denver from 1989-'92. By the way, if Schottenheimer does not return, expect Steve Mariucci's name to surface as a leading candidate to coach the Chargers.

--Dave McGinnis (Titans assistant head coach/LBs) - Former Cardinals head coach is well-respected defensive mind.

--Ed Donatell (Falcons def. coordinator) - Former Packers coordinator didn't do much with the Falcons this season.

--Jim Mora (recently fired Falcons head coach) - Will get a second interview for the Dolphins' head-coaching position and reportedly has a real chance to land that job.

More news to come.....

 
two down and one more to go.....

Jim Tomsula has been hired as the 49ers' new defensive line coach, replacing Gary Emanuel, who was fired, along with defensive coordinator Billy Davis, on Jan. 2.

Tomsula has never coached in the NFL, but as an extensive resume from NFL Europe. He became the youngest head coach in NFL Europe League history in November 2005 at the age of 38. The Fire went 5-4 last season in Tomsula's only season.

Last season, Tomsula had three offensive linemen on his team who are currently with the 49ers: Tony Wragge, Harvey Dahl and Nick Steitz.

In 2004 and '05, he served as defensive coordinator of the Berlin Thunder, advancing to the World Bowl in each of those seasons. In 2005, the Thunder ranked second in NFL Europe in total defense

Tomsula joined the Thunder after five seasons as defensive line coach with the Scottish Claymores. His first season in pro football was with the England Monarchs in 1998. He began his coaching career at Charleston Southern and Catawba College in Salisbury, N.C. Tomsula played his college football at Catawba after transferring from Middle Tennessee State.

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=437365

 
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...hispers2129.htm

The Niners realize it would behoove them to give ace RB Frank Gore a healthy raise before his contract expires after the 2007 season. However, the way we hear it, negotiations with Gore’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, will hardly be cut and dried, since, regardless of Gore’s great success, they still consider him a 24-year-old running back in a 30-year-old’s body. Another valued young Niner with the same contract situation as Gore, starting ORG Justin Smiley, is a good bet to be re-signed first.

 
I sure hope Dallas isn't looking towards Norv Turner as a Head Coach candidate. Losing him could really set the 49ers back next season.

 
A coaching search has begun. Current Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera and former Cowboys offensive coordinator Norv Turner have already expressed interest in the job.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/16519023.htm

Well this sucks. Alex Smith might have to learn his 3rd offense in three years. Damn it. He leaves, kiss the playoffs goodbye next year.

 
I sure hope Dallas isn't looking towards Norv Turner as a Head Coach candidate. Losing him could really set the 49ers back next season.
Hard to get set back much from having the 26th-ranked offense.(That's four years in a row now that Turner has run an offense ranked #20 or worse. With 3 different teams).
 
Another Cowboy joining 49ers?

CAMPO WAS TO MEET ABOUT TEAM'S JOB AS DEFENSIVE CHIEF

By Daniel Brown

Mercury News

Delighted with the work of one former Dallas Cowboys coordinator, the 49ers are exploring the idea of adding another.

The 49ers planned to interview Dave Campo on Monday for their vacant defensive coordinator position. Campo spent 14 seasons in various capacities with Dallas in 1989-2002 and, with fellow assistant Norv Turner, helped the Cowboys win Super Bowls after the 1992 and '93 seasons. (Campo stuck around to help win one more, after the 1995 season.)

Turner joined the 49ers last season as offensive coordinator. Campo becomes the second candidate to interview for the 49ers defensive job, following Donnie Henderson, the former New York Jets and Detroit Lions defensive coordinator, who interviewed earlier this month.

Campo, 59, spent the past two seasons as assistant head coach/secondary with Jacksonville. The Jaguars ranked second in total defense last season and sixth in 2005.

Like Turner, Campo had a disappointing experience as a head coach. He went 5-11 for three consecutive seasons, 2000-02, before he was replaced by Bill Parcells.

Campo performed admirably as a defensive coordinator, however. In his five years as the defensive boss, Dallas was ranked in the NFL's top 10 four times and among the top three twice.

49ers Coach Mike Nolan is in Mobile, Ala., this week, where he will coach the South team in the Senior Bowl on Saturday. Nolan is searching for a replacement for defensive coordinator Billy Davis, who was fired promptly after a season in which the 49ers surrendered an NFL-worst 25.8 points per game.

 
Dolphins QB coach Garrett interviews with Cowboys

The Cowboys' plan for replacing Parcells at this point is to determine whether Garrett as offensive coordinator can call plays, develop the offensive scheme and manage the offensive coaching staff and the players -- particularly Terrell Owens. If it is determined that Garrett, who has never called plays, can handle that much responsibility, then the Cowboys are expected to pursue San Diego defensive coordinator Wade Phillips to replace Parcells. If Jones decides that Garrett is not quite ready for that role, he would be hired as offensive coordinator and then paired with Norv Turner, who can handle the overall offense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2741032

Am i missing something here? I have not read or heard anything about Norv going to the Cowboys. Has anyone heard anything?

 
CRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!

FOXSports.com has learned that the Cowboys have called for and received permission to interview 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner for their head coaching post. Niners coach Mike Nolan told FOXSports.com Wednesday night that he was very hopeful of keeping Turner, but expected Dallas to come calling. That call came Thursday morning.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6407828

 
From Dallas' perspective, I think it would be more important to bring in Wade Phillips into the organization as he is the best available person to run a 3-4. He can only be interviewed to come in as a HC.

Dallas is acknowledging now that Garrett is their future. Norv Turner has to know that he would only be coming in as a seatwarmer and if Dallas doesn't do well next year, then fans will be clamoring for Garrett to take over and Turner would be fired for the third time.

 
Updated: Jan. 26, 2007, 8:25 PM ET

Sources: Niners make lucrative bid to retain Turner

By Ed Werder

ESPN.com

The San Francisco 49ers are offering Norv Turner a lucrative incentive package in his contract in a bid to persuade him to remain and continue developing quarterback Alex Smith, rather than interviewing for the Dallas Cowboys' head-coaching position, according to sources.

Seeking a replacement for retired head coach Bill Parcells, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones interviewed San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Wade Phillips through the morning and into the early afternoon Friday. Phillips also discussed the team's personnel with Parcells, who has also been offering Jones his opinion on the coaching candidates.

Jones is expected to interview New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs on Saturday and then Turner sometime after Saturday's Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., where Turner and the 49ers coaching staff are working.

While the Cowboys have insisted that newly hired Jason Garrett remains under consideration for the head coaching position, it appears they have become comfortable with him as the next offensive coordinator.

It now appears that Jones will pair Garrett -- whom he views as the Cowboys' head coach as soon as 2008 -- with either Turner or Phillips. If the Cowboys are comfortable with Garrett running the entire offensive side of the ball, even though he has only two years of coaching experience and has never called plays, they would be more inclined to offer the job to Phillips.

But if they decide Garrett requires a mentor, then the job probably belongs to Turner.

Phillips, the former head coach at Denver and Buffalo who also had interim stints in New Orleans and Atlanta, said he had a "very encompassing talk" with Jones. Phillips has a 48-39 coaching record.

"I'm going to go on my record," Phillips said. "I've won as a head coach, been in the playoffs three out of the five years I've been a head coach. ... I have a lot of experience; I've been 30 years in the league, 25 as either a head coach or coordinator."

Although Phillips didn't get a timetable from Jones about when a decision would be made, Phillips doesn't expect it to be a long time.

"I don't think it will be a long drawn out process," he said. "That's what I've been told."

Phillips said he met with Garrett and Parcells while at Valley Ranch.

"I know Jason," Phillips said. "I think he's a bright young mind that's going to do well in this league. He's one of those rising stars."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2744279

 
I do not want them to spend a first on a wide receiver- the track record for teams drafting a wide out in the first rounder is spotty at best. I think Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald are the closest things to sure bets the past few years- everyone else is a crap shoot (in varying degrees) in my opinion. A high-risk pick at WR when we can have BPA on defense doesn’t make sense to me. Not to mention, there is not enough evidence that the Niners can properly evaluate wide-receivers in the draft. There are a lot of otherwise successful teams (Eagles, Falcons to name two) that have problems in this area. I think the offense will be solid enough as they have another year to mature in the same offense. It’s easy to forget that Smith and Gore are just entering their third years and Vernon Davis his second. If Davis becomes the playmaker they envision, then Bryant and Battle are good enough and they can bring in a second-tier receiver for depth. I also like Delanie Walker as an H-back to add dimension to the offense. They have to focus on rebuilding the defense. Ultimately, this is where Nolan would like the strength of the team to lie and the future begins now. I’ve said before that I think they will perennially draft run-stuffers and defensive playmakers at the top of their drafts, similar to what the Ravens do year-to-year.
:wub: I completely agree. Focus on the defense, and let Smith develop with some of the young talent on offense (Davis, Bryant, Battle). I don't know if Larry Allen is signed or not, but if not they probably need some more depth on the line.
 
The 49ers offered Peterson one of the richest contracts the franchise ever offered for an LB. He also is a Poston client. It's not like the 49ers didn't try.
Ah, another good general manager tactic, choose your personnel based on who their agent is.Face it, the Niners lost their best defensive player, who they could easily have afforded to keep, and he went to the Pro Bowl while the Niner defense again wound up dead last in points allowed (and #26 in yardage allowed). It was a bonehead move.
:lmao: After making yourself look ridiculous with last season's predictions, I have to give you props for coming back for more this year.
 
:confused: After making yourself look ridiculous with last season's predictions, I have to give you props for coming back for more this year.
What was ridiculous? Predicting that the Niner defense, Niner offense, Alex Smith, and Vernon Davis all would suck? Exactly what did I get wrong there? (For those keeping score: #26, #26, suck, suck).
 
:lmao: After making yourself look ridiculous with last season's predictions, I have to give you props for coming back for more this year.
What was ridiculous? Predicting that the Niner defense, Niner offense, Alex Smith, and Vernon Davis all would suck? Exactly what did I get wrong there? (For those keeping score: #26, #26, suck, suck).
Davis was injured this past season, and only played in ten games. He broke a leg, you know. Or do you?

Smith posted a 74.8 QB rating this past season also, which isn't too bad, considering his WR corp.

But really, considering you screwed the pooch on your Peterson take, your predictions hardly make you sagelike. 49er fans know the why's and how's of the team's offensive and defensive rankings amongst the other teams.

It isn't like you add anything to the conversation, other than to anklebite in a another 49er thread.

Who is your team, anyway?

 
:lmao: After making yourself look ridiculous with last season's predictions, I have to give you props for coming back for more this year.
What was ridiculous? Predicting that the Niner defense, Niner offense, Alex Smith, and Vernon Davis all would suck? Exactly what did I get wrong there? (For those keeping score: #26, #26, suck, suck).
Davis was injured this past season, and only played in ten games. He broke a leg, you know. Or do you?

Smith posted a 74.8 QB rating this past season also, which isn't too bad, considering his WR corp.

But really, considering you screwed the pooch on your Peterson take, your predictions hardly make you sagelike. 49er fans know the why's and how's of the team's offensive and defensive rankings amongst the other teams.

It isn't like you add anything to the conversation, other than to anklebite in a another 49er thread.

Who is your team, anyway?
Yes, Davis played in only 10 games. He caught only 20 passes in those games, and dropped, what, 7 or 8? Is that what you're looking for out of your first-round draft pick?What, exactly, was wrong with my Peterson take? I said he was the best defensive player the Niners had and they should have kept him. They let him go due to their pigheadishness, and, surprise!, their defense sucked and Peterson went to the Pro Bowl.

I don't root for any pro team. I root for my fantasy team.

 

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