BaBastage
Footballguy
Care to give some examples? I've only heard one interview (post above) and I didn't hear him say anything negative.
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San Francisco 49ers 2013 thread (SEE NEW 2014 THREAD) (1 Viewer)
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Wingnut
Footballguy
So when he's asked specifically about it, he should just say no comment? He didn't just start talking out of thin air, he's been asked all kinds of questions about it...and it has to be frustrating...I'd speak my mind just like he did. After the game he handled it with class...but how long should he bite his tongue when it comes up repeatedly? As a competitor I'm sure he's replayed it in his head a thousand times since the game, and he khows had he made a better throw the outcome would have been different. I have no problem with his comments at this point in time. I just hope he works on what he needs to improve on this off season and it shows next season.
0 problem with his comments the last few days. He had a relatively mild response to Sherman, but still made sure to stick up for his guy Crabtree, showed a lot of respect for the rest of the Seahawks, and took responsibility for his mistakes in the game. Handled it perfectly IMO.
BaBastage
Footballguy
I have no problem with this. In the interview, he gave high praise for Wilson and the Seahawks organization. He also respects Manning.
You're stretching here.
BaBastage
Footballguy
There's no contradiction involved. You're assuming that Kaepernick won't be happy for Wilson if he wins. That's different than having a favorite team in the game.Alkahsu said:
Seriously. You're exhibiting your inner Richard Sherman... you can't be happy enough that you win the game and have a great team, you have to go hating on your vanquished opponents.
Feel free to respond, but I won't anymore. Cheers and good luck this weekend.
Wingnut
Footballguy
He said that to Wilson on the field immediately after the game. Once he heard what Sherman said, he changed his mind and decided he would rather see Denver win. Fault him for that all you want, but you'd do the same in his situation. Someone calls your WR sorry and mediocre, when we all know that's a ridiculous statement, you're gonna hope he doesn't get a ring.Alkahsu said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
So let me get this straight...85 rec for 1105 yds and 9 tds (with 2 different QBs no less) is mediocre and sorry?
Seattle's best WR this season (Tate) had 64 rec for 898 yds and 5 tds.
If Crab is mediocre and sorry, your guy must be dog shiite.
LMFFAO, you buffoon. Now go home and get your shinebox. Maybe you can polish your turd of a WR with it.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Mediocre and sorry. There is a reason the whiners are sitting at home and Kaep is #####ing to the media about Sherman.
I'm assuming he wanted Wilson to win since he told him to get a ring, but how can Wilson get a ring if DEN wins? He can't, so Kap wanting DEN to win and Wilson to get a ring contradict each other. No need for you to respond since there isn't a way for both to happen being that his statements contradict each other.
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
chinawildman
Footballguy
5Rings
Lurker
Real SB was last week, there was no AFC team who could hang with the top 4 in the NFC. I made a small fortune on Seattle today. Folks always sleep on the West.
After today I hope the hawk morons feel validated and leave this thread. I can't imagine tards like Scotty can dress themselves.
After today I hope the hawk morons feel validated and leave this thread. I can't imagine tards like Scotty can dress themselves.
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beef
Footballguy
Seattle did it. SanFran couldn't.
drummer
Footballguy
After watching SEA in the Super Bowl crush DEN, I'm surprised the NFCC game was that close.
drummer
Footballguy
beef
Footballguy
Yep. Congrats on being #2.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Pretty sad your happiness is talking #### to 49er fans on an anonymous message board after the Super Bowl...Yep. Congrats on being #2.
ETA: your life must be awful
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5Rings
Lurker
Congrats! Best tream hands down. Great to see the good folks of Seattle enjoy a winner.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Seattle fans with a lack of class as usual.
lod01
Footballguy
Manning should have let stats take a back seat to winning and signed up with a team that had a great D instead of one with better offensive weapons.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I'm not. SF matches up better with Seattle than any other team. We almost beat em in their house with the 12th man screaming their lungs out.Can't wait to play them next year. I'm gonna fly out to SF to watch em beat the champs in the new stadium.
BaBastage
Footballguy
... and another Seattle fan gets added to my ignore list. Seriously, those guys have a monopoly it seems.
It's pretty sad when folks have such an empty life that the best they can do for entertainment is pushing some distorted schadenfreude agenda on the internet.
Don't get me wrong, I like the rivalry. But there are 30 other teams in the league, and none of their fans drop in here to talk their ####.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I'm not giving any of em that come into this thread and talk smack any satisfaction by responding any more. I've never posted in the Seahawk thread except to say congrats to 95% of their fans last night.
Enough about them, I still can't believe Bowman got snubbed in the DPOY voting.
So its off season now...lets talk draft!
Enough about them, I still can't believe Bowman got snubbed in the DPOY voting.
So its off season now...lets talk draft!
sho nuff
Footballguy
I don't think proninja was talking trash.
I think he was giving the 9ers credit as being better than Denver and right there with the Seahawks (given his other posts on the topic and respect for the 9ers team and that matchup)
Neofight
Footballguy
He's admitted the 49ers scare him big time in other threads, and this was clearly meant to be a compliment. Can't win for winning, I suppose.
BaBastage
Footballguy
Ok; I can see that. I saw his post in the Seattle thread when he made it. Although a one-liner in here seemed at most an underhanded compliment, and at worst, a "reminder". It would have been nice to have included the Denver reference if that's what was meant.
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drummer
Footballguy
The reality is the 49ers could be the second best team. SEA is clearly the best. For some 49er fans, that maybe too sobering a thought. For me however, it just tells me how much more work the so called dream duo of HarBaalke has to do this off season in order to truly earn their accolades from the Bay Area media and fans.
Now they did turn a moribund team around left from Nolan and Singletary. But they also had the shelves stocked with talent from Scot McGlouhan's tenure as DoP and GM, who is now with SEA. 49er fans were like "HAHA SCOT GET'S A JOB WITH SEATTLE HAHA CARROLL TAKES OUR LEFTOVERS HAHA!". McGlouhan get's that last laugh with a ring. I don't know how much influence he has in SEA's FO, but any information he can bring from being in the roles he had in SF can only help.
The 2012 and 2013 drafts - again I'm gonna harp on this - hasn't produced much at all with the exception of Eric Reid. Of course 2013's draft has some promising talent, but it would had been nice to see the flashes of promise this season where they could have had impact on plays, as opposed to "Well, we still have to see if they can get back to 100% from their respective college play."
Hoarding future players, UDFA's, and picks seems like a good idea in the Cap era to keep the team competitive. But blowing a first round pick in Jenkins is blowing a first round pick period. Then you follow that pick in the second round with LaMichael James. Again, speed kills but size matters, and now you have to have both. If you only have two picks in the early rounds, you find big impact players or draft BPA.
Of course Baalke has a ton of picks for this draft, and he can load up on DB, WR, RB along with the shelf picks of 2013. But the 2012 draft is a total wash at this point. I'd rather they had drafted two big WR's then at picks 1 and 2.
Now they did turn a moribund team around left from Nolan and Singletary. But they also had the shelves stocked with talent from Scot McGlouhan's tenure as DoP and GM, who is now with SEA. 49er fans were like "HAHA SCOT GET'S A JOB WITH SEATTLE HAHA CARROLL TAKES OUR LEFTOVERS HAHA!". McGlouhan get's that last laugh with a ring. I don't know how much influence he has in SEA's FO, but any information he can bring from being in the roles he had in SF can only help.
The 2012 and 2013 drafts - again I'm gonna harp on this - hasn't produced much at all with the exception of Eric Reid. Of course 2013's draft has some promising talent, but it would had been nice to see the flashes of promise this season where they could have had impact on plays, as opposed to "Well, we still have to see if they can get back to 100% from their respective college play."
Hoarding future players, UDFA's, and picks seems like a good idea in the Cap era to keep the team competitive. But blowing a first round pick in Jenkins is blowing a first round pick period. Then you follow that pick in the second round with LaMichael James. Again, speed kills but size matters, and now you have to have both. If you only have two picks in the early rounds, you find big impact players or draft BPA.
Of course Baalke has a ton of picks for this draft, and he can load up on DB, WR, RB along with the shelf picks of 2013. But the 2012 draft is a total wash at this point. I'd rather they had drafted two big WR's then at picks 1 and 2.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
CalBear
Footballguy
Doesn't look like Seattle needed big WRs. TDs scored by Kearse, Baldwin, and Harvin, all smaller than both Crabtree and Boldin. The Niners have sufficient talent at receiver.
johnadams
Footballguy
This is the truth. However, I'd also add that Harbaugh and company need to advance their offensive philosophy. I guess I understand the conservatism given that they seem to only trust Kaep so far, but it was refreshing to see SEA (I hate typing that sentence) go for the jugular last night every chance they had. I think Carroll and his staff coached miles around all of their opponents in the playoffs (somewhere, there's an icepick with my eyeball's name on it for that one), including the niners. I'm a bigger fan of Kaep than most, but SEA has set the bar pretty high and SF is going to have to improve and a big piece of that improvement needs to be in developing a better killer instinct on offense.
And, yeah, the 2012 draft was weird at the time and those first two picks were considered headscratches by many, just. A big woulda shoulda coulda this year, but in the end, the Seahawks were better (that's it. I'm getting my 12 gauge).
Seattle doesn't sniff the SB if that game is played in SF or on any neutral field. They were fortuntate this year that we got off to a slow start with all of the injuries. The way Seattle / Wilson was playing to end the year they would have been blown out had they run the same gauntlet the Niners did in the playoffs. It all came down to a few regular season points that decided who was going to the SB this year. We fell just a bit short but by no means are they clearly the better team. I was truly impressed with how well they did this year considering they were coming of a tough SB loss and they lost Crabtree, Culliver and Williams to start the year along with the several other key injuries throughout.drummer said:
Kap still needs some work but after last night it goes to show how well he has really done given how raw he truly is.
ETA - Roman is the biggest deterent to Kap's success IMO. One thing Bevell does well is keeps things simple and plays to Wilson strengths. Roman has a complicated mess of an offense and he gets cute far too often. I really like the offense Seattle runs and wish Roman would take a few notes.
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drummer
Footballguy
True, but Wilson is a bit less than 6', and Kaep is 6'5" and less compact with less accuracy. Davis is his biggest target at 6'3", and Crabs is 6'2". Crabs makes his living snatching balls above his head. The 49ers have had a host of smaller WR's, most who hardly play or have been traded or cut because they could not grasp the offense. They're not "fine" at WR. Hell, they only had one in Boldin most of the season with Crabs out.
drummer
Footballguy
The point spreads between SEA at home vs. SF at home between both teams over the past two regular seasons aren't even close. SEA in the SB dominated from start to finish. SF was down 28-6 in the 3rd quarter before rallying short. SEA also had injuries as well. One game, a few points, whatever. They won the division and the NFCC game. The better team wins period. That means the division, the NFCC game, and where the 49ers fell short last year, the Super Bowl.
They finished the season on top. I know it's hard for 49er fans to fathom, but that's the reality. Harbaugh and Co. has yet to finish on top. Maybe in his year 4 he could do what Carroll did in his. You admit SEA runs a better offense than SF, so there's that.
You have to let a team have it's due, and you have to give credit to what they have done, and we also have to put pressure on SF and not just be happy with moral victories. You go through two drafts and only have one player make a significant contribution out of them in 2013, then you didn't do something right to help them be the better team in 2013. The margin is that slim, and just maybe had they got few key plays out of more than just one player from those drafts, they just might have made it back to the Super Bowl and win it.
In 2014, if they get it right and win the Super Bowl then they are the better team than SEA. It's really that close, but the scales could had been tipped in the 49ers favor is Baalke knew anything about acquiring talent on offense over the past two drafts, and not get cute with it with players that hardly contribute because they can't get on the roster or a game day scratch like James. Hell, Boldin fell into their laps, so you can't even count that.
drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
I'm gonna paste this from another thread. Yeah, it's a Gekko post, but it makes sense to me:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703638&p=16494249
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703638&p=16494249
Paulymaggs
Footballguy
http://www.seahawks.com/news/press/article-1/Seahawks-hire-McCloughan-as-Senior-Personnel-Executive/c57a12ea-f168-4ffb-b95f-6e3e90e629d6
Chancellor was drafted in April 2010. McCloughan didn't join the Seahawks until June of that year.
Chancellor was drafted in April 2010. McCloughan didn't join the Seahawks until June of that year.
proninja
Footballguy
Was definitely a compliment. Kaep was right. That pass goes a foot further, there's a parade by the Bay tomorrow. I've been fairly consistent with my respect for the team you guys have down there. I don't look forward to any of those games.
BaBastage
Footballguy
Ok. Thanks for clarification... losing the NFC game is still a sore topic... will be for a while... I overreacted. I've seen your posts elsewhere, we've had some very respectful exchanges.
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