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'efactor said:
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 5:02 PM on Sat, Mar 16, 2013:

49ers announced they have signed (former Ram) S Craig Dahl to a three-year deal.

ETA: [url=" %5Burl="http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D"%5Dhttp://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D%5B/url%5D
Well, given that he's not all that good, I imagine they will be drafting a safety early, or that this is a special teams signing and they are going to bring someone else in.
3 years/5 million. That definitely wouldn't keep them from adding someone else in FA if they want.
Yup, that's not starter money.
That's just above scrub $$, with little expectation on the return. Body $$ if you will. All signs look to fortifying thru the draft, which IMO is the way to go. Just get more pass rush to backup Justin Smith. I'd rather a youth movement in the defensive backfield. They still have one of the best if not the best LB corp, but more push from the front offsets the youth in the back.
The guy started 16 games in a Jeff Fisher defense, so I would consider him more than a "body". Good back up who knows the NFC west. Can probably be a good special teams guy. Good signing but yeah, someone they are not looking at as a starter.
From what I read, despite he starting 16 games, he's horrid in coverage, and you can get a special teams kamakaze cheaper in the draft.
If he was horrid in coverage, he wouldn't have started 16 games for Jeff Fisher. Plus, they saw him twice this year, so something they liked about him.I read a lot of things, but doesn't mean they are true.
Just because Jeff Fisher inherited the guy doesn't mean he's more than a ST fodder that you can get cheap. He's a way below average S who STL let go, probably because they need like the 49ers a S they can get in the draft. Go and find me who thinks he is more than a scrub, then you have something to back yourself up with. You might not believe anything you read, but you from what you post, it's like you don't read anything at all.

 
'efactor said:
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 5:02 PM on Sat, Mar 16, 2013:

49ers announced they have signed (former Ram) S Craig Dahl to a three-year deal.

ETA: [url=" %5Burl="http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D"%5Dhttp://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D%5B/url%5D
Well, given that he's not all that good, I imagine they will be drafting a safety early, or that this is a special teams signing and they are going to bring someone else in.
3 years/5 million. That definitely wouldn't keep them from adding someone else in FA if they want.
Yup, that's not starter money.
That's just above scrub $$, with little expectation on the return. Body $$ if you will. All signs look to fortifying thru the draft, which IMO is the way to go. Just get more pass rush to backup Justin Smith. I'd rather a youth movement in the defensive backfield. They still have one of the best if not the best LB corp, but more push from the front offsets the youth in the back.
The guy started 16 games in a Jeff Fisher defense, so I would consider him more than a "body". Good back up who knows the NFC west. Can probably be a good special teams guy. Good signing but yeah, someone they are not looking at as a starter.
From what I read, despite he starting 16 games, he's horrid in coverage, and you can get a special teams kamakaze cheaper in the draft.
If he was horrid in coverage, he wouldn't have started 16 games for Jeff Fisher. Plus, they saw him twice this year, so something they liked about him.I read a lot of things, but doesn't mean they are true.
Believe what you want, but ask a Ram fan. The guy isn't very good. My opinion though is that Goldson wasn't anything special, and certainly not worth $8mil/year. SF's front seven made the secondary look better than it actually was. Look at the numbers after Justin Smith got hurt and the pass rush all but disappeared. No bueno.Dahl won't be starting at safety on this defense.

Eta: SF plays in Tampa this year, it will be fun to watch Goldson against his old team. I will be at that game.
:goodposting: Like I keep harping, get more pass rush and draft youth in the DB. If Goldson was even slightly overrated, then there is no reason to even try to argue Dahl. You can argue Dashon.

2 time Pro-Bowler and 1 time All-Pro vs. Dahl.

GO.

 
On the Moore signing:

The 49ers today signed Sacramento native Marlon Moore, a wide receiver, to a one-year deal. Moore, 25, spent the last three seasons with the Miami Dolphins where he mostly served as a gunner on special teams, and the 49ers are eyeing him to help bolster a special teams unit that struggled at times in 2012.

Moore started two games at receiver last season for the Dolphins, finishing the year with six catches - he averaged 19.3 yards a reception - and a touchdown. He also ran back two kickoffs for 51 yards.

The 6-foot, 190-pound wideout went from Natomas High to Fresno State where he handled 19 punts. He returned one of them 63 yards for a touchdown in 2008. He finished his career as a Bulldog with 90 catches for 1,374 yards and 10 touchdowns.

The 49ers are not expected to retain return man Ted Ginn, who has made free-agent visits to Cincinnati and Carolina. Moore said he's mostly been used on coverage units with the Dolphins but that he has experience as a returner and would jump at the possibility to do that with the 49ers.

"I'm coming in here with an open mind, and I'm ready to work for whatever need they want me to fill," he said on a conference call.

Moore will join a group of young players at the position - Ricardo Lockette, Chad Hall and Joe Hastings - who presumably will battle for a spot on the roster and perhaps playing time.

Moore is known for his speed, and he ran a 4.49-second 40-yard dash before the 2010 draft. He went undrafted and was signed by the Dolphins.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-sacramento-native-marlon-moore.html

 
49ers add Lombardi to staff

Mick Lombardi, son of Cleveland Browns personnel chief Michael Lombardi, has been added to the 49ers' staff as coach Jim Harbaugh's assistant.

Lombardi worked last year for the New England Patriots as a scouting assistant. He will have coaching responsibilities on both sides of the ball, too. Harbaugh raved about young Lombardi on Wednesday at the NFL owners meetings.

"Everybody loves Mick. I've already given him stuff. He's become a go-to guy," Harbaugh said. "We said, 'Let's have him do this project.' He did such a good job on this project that we had him do this project over here.

"Great kid and a great worker. A great combination."

Lombardi was hired to replace Bill Nayes, who served four seasons with the 49ers -- first under Mike Singletary and, then, for Harbaugh's first two seasons -- as special assistant to the head coach. Nayes was hired in January as North Carolina State's director of football operations.

Michael Lombardi, formerly an NFL Network analyst, had two interviews two years ago for the 49ers' general manager position. Team CEO Jed York ended up promoting Trent Baalke to the job.

Lombardi is no relation to Hall of Fame coach Vince Lombardi, after whom the Super Bowl trophy is named.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/49ers-add-lombardi-staff

 
49ers add Lombardi to staff

Mick Lombardi, son of Cleveland Browns personnel chief Michael Lombardi, has been added to the 49ers' staff as coach Jim Harbaugh's assistant.

Lombardi worked last year for the New England Patriots as a scouting assistant. He will have coaching responsibilities on both sides of the ball, too. Harbaugh raved about young Lombardi on Wednesday at the NFL owners meetings.

"Everybody loves Mick. I've already given him stuff. He's become a go-to guy," Harbaugh said. "We said, 'Let's have him do this project.' He did such a good job on this project that we had him do this project over here.

"Great kid and a great worker. A great combination."

Lombardi was hired to replace Bill Nayes, who served four seasons with the 49ers -- first under Mike Singletary and, then, for Harbaugh's first two seasons -- as special assistant to the head coach. Nayes was hired in January as North Carolina State's director of football operations.

Michael Lombardi, formerly an NFL Network analyst, had two interviews two years ago for the 49ers' general manager position. Team CEO Jed York ended up promoting Trent Baalke to the job.

Lombardi is no relation to Hall of Fame coach Vince Lombardi, after whom the Super Bowl trophy is named.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/49ers-add-lombardi-staff
Bill Nayes was my buddy's neighbor. Very nice guy. I thought it was weird when my buddy told me that he took a job somewhere else in the middle of a playoff run... but then I remember reading his bio and saw that he was already apart of a couple (few?) organizations when they won it all. It sounds like a fun job.
 
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'efactor said:
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 5:02 PM on Sat, Mar 16, 2013:

49ers announced they have signed (former Ram) S Craig Dahl to a three-year deal.

ETA: [url=" %5Burl="http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D"%5Dhttp://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D%5B/url%5D
Well, given that he's not all that good, I imagine they will be drafting a safety early, or that this is a special teams signing and they are going to bring someone else in.
3 years/5 million. That definitely wouldn't keep them from adding someone else in FA if they want.
Yup, that's not starter money.
That's just above scrub $$, with little expectation on the return. Body $$ if you will. All signs look to fortifying thru the draft, which IMO is the way to go. Just get more pass rush to backup Justin Smith. I'd rather a youth movement in the defensive backfield. They still have one of the best if not the best LB corp, but more push from the front offsets the youth in the back.
The guy started 16 games in a Jeff Fisher defense, so I would consider him more than a "body". Good back up who knows the NFC west. Can probably be a good special teams guy. Good signing but yeah, someone they are not looking at as a starter.
From what I read, despite he starting 16 games, he's horrid in coverage, and you can get a special teams kamakaze cheaper in the draft.
If he was horrid in coverage, he wouldn't have started 16 games for Jeff Fisher. Plus, they saw him twice this year, so something they liked about him.I read a lot of things, but doesn't mean they are true.
Just because Jeff Fisher inherited the guy doesn't mean he's more than a ST fodder that you can get cheap. He's a way below average S who STL let go, probably because they need like the 49ers a S they can get in the draft. Go and find me who thinks he is more than a scrub, then you have something to back yourself up with. You might not believe anything you read, but you from what you post, it's like you don't read anything at all.
Well, Harbaugh and Baalke think he is more than a scrub, so that means a little more than finding someone on the internet who thinks he is good. From what you post, you really don't know much about football. I guess you subscribe to the belief that if you read it on the internet, it must be true. If he was "horrid" in coverage as you say and only a special teams scrub, why did the NFC champs sign him at all? My guess is the brain trust of the team disagrees with you and my guess is they have more access to information on player evaluation than you do. If you were talking about a scrub team, then you might be able to sell this to someone, but SF seems to be pretty good at acquiring players who can contribute.

That's all

 
'efactor said:
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 5:02 PM on Sat, Mar 16, 2013:

49ers announced they have signed (former Ram) S Craig Dahl to a three-year deal.

ETA: [url=" %5Burl="http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D"%5Dhttp://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/03/49ers-sign-safety-craig-dahl-to-a-three-year-deal.html%5DLink%5B/URL%5D%5B/url%5D
Well, given that he's not all that good, I imagine they will be drafting a safety early, or that this is a special teams signing and they are going to bring someone else in.
3 years/5 million. That definitely wouldn't keep them from adding someone else in FA if they want.
Yup, that's not starter money.
That's just above scrub $$, with little expectation on the return. Body $$ if you will. All signs look to fortifying thru the draft, which IMO is the way to go. Just get more pass rush to backup Justin Smith. I'd rather a youth movement in the defensive backfield. They still have one of the best if not the best LB corp, but more push from the front offsets the youth in the back.
The guy started 16 games in a Jeff Fisher defense, so I would consider him more than a "body". Good back up who knows the NFC west. Can probably be a good special teams guy. Good signing but yeah, someone they are not looking at as a starter.
From what I read, despite he starting 16 games, he's horrid in coverage, and you can get a special teams kamakaze cheaper in the draft.
If he was horrid in coverage, he wouldn't have started 16 games for Jeff Fisher. Plus, they saw him twice this year, so something they liked about him.I read a lot of things, but doesn't mean they are true.
Just because Jeff Fisher inherited the guy doesn't mean he's more than a ST fodder that you can get cheap. He's a way below average S who STL let go, probably because they need like the 49ers a S they can get in the draft. Go and find me who thinks he is more than a scrub, then you have something to back yourself up with. You might not believe anything you read, but you from what you post, it's like you don't read anything at all.
Well, Harbaugh and Baalke think he is more than a scrub, so that means a little more than finding someone on the internet who thinks he is good. From what you post, you really don't know much about football. I guess you subscribe to the belief that if you read it on the internet, it must be true. If he was "horrid" in coverage as you say and only a special teams scrub, why did the NFC champs sign him at all? My guess is the brain trust of the team disagrees with you and my guess is they have more access to information on player evaluation than you do. If you were talking about a scrub team, then you might be able to sell this to someone, but SF seems to be pretty good at acquiring players who can contribute.

That's all
If you wanna argue Craig Dahl, be my guest. If all you have is "Harbaugh and Baalke know more than you", then you might as well tell the whole Shark Pool not to post about football. First person to stop posting: You.

 
Wow. Sorry that I challenged your blanket statement that Dahl is no more that a scrub and "body" pick up. Guess we should shut down the Shark Pool to anyone who disagrees with your uneducated opinions.

Plus, I hate to break it to you, but your "harping" on SF drafting Safety early is not an original thought. Pretty wide spread opinion.

 
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Wow. Sorry that I challenged your blanket statement that Dahl is no more that a scrub and "body" pick up. Guess we should shut down the Shark Pool to anyone who disagrees with your uneducated opinions.Plus, I hate to break it to you, but your "harping" on SF drafting Safety early is not an original thought. Pretty wide spread opinion.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. Even though it's obvious it has nothing to do with football after all. :fruithanger:
 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false

 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
The dude is a gym rat from what I've read. My only concern is the time needed to develop chemistry with Kap. He's a tough WR with good hands and a great blocker.. compliments SF's style of O perfectly.I will say that ever since that bone crushing hit he took a few years back when he was still with AZ, he just hasn't been the same dominating force that he was prior to that (in fact he was coming on real strong that year). Of course, I could be way off on this assessment.

 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
It's not so much the ability - because even though Moss had been out for a period of time, he still has the natural ability to make plays, big time plays - it's the amount of targets and where he fit in the 49er offense. Moss during the regular season: 28 rec for 434 yards, 3 TDs.

I don't put that on Moss. I put that more on the QB and the OC. Although Moss was wide open on a lot of plays that either Smith and to a lesser extent Kaep didn't look his way or target him, especially Smith. Moss' complaint that he wasn't used much in the 49er offense kinda holds true. He basically was a decoy on a lot of plays where he was open deep, but just stretching the defense for all of the other plays and targets.

Now where Boldin fits, who knows? He is not known for the separation Moss brought, or speed, but lets take a peek and then try to project where he would be in the dynamic and versatile 49er offense with Kaep under center now, by looking at his BAL numbers of 2012:

65 rec, 921 yards, 4TDs.

Now there is a HUGE difference in receptions and yards, but again I don't pin that on each WR's respective abilities. BAL changed their offense during the season like the 49ers had, but the 49ers change was at QB and what he could bring as far as all the options due to Kaep's skill set and natural athletic ability. All of Kaep's attributes will still hold true and go even further into the playbook this off-season, but Kaep still has to spread the ball around to all of the other targets such as Crabs, Davis, etc.

So do we split the difference of Boldin's season and Moss' in the 49er offense? I see less receptions and yards for Boldin this upcoming season, but the kicker is a jump in TDs to maybe around 7 or 8. Moss was one TD less (where he could have have at least two more) than Boldin last season with the 49ers. I'm being generous with TDs for Boldin, but I am just looking at the upside with the greater RZ opportunities.

 
I hear ya drummer. Moss wasn't on the field much, I dont recall the percentage of plays though. I'm pretty sure Bodin will be WR2 entering the season since Manningham is still rehabbing and will get a lot more targets than Moss got. I too think 7-8 tds is likely for Boldin - he's a great RZ target. Where he will make a real difference, IMO is between the 20s. I'm betting a good number of his catches are for 1st downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep eventually leans on him on 3rd downs to keep the chains moving.

I doubt think there will be a problem with chemistry or rapport between Kaep and Boldin. It won't happen overnight but Boldin understands that the work has to start now in order to translate into the regular season.

Once Manningham is back 100%, our WR corps will look much improved over last year. And if just one of the 3 or 4 young WRs on the roster pans out, we will be loaded with weapons.

 
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 5:04 PM on Thu, Mar 21, 2013:

Former 49ers WR Ted Ginn is signing a one-year deal with the Carolina Panthers.

 
I hear ya drummer. Moss wasn't on the field much, I dont recall the percentage of plays though. I'm pretty sure Bodin will be WR2 entering the season since Manningham is still rehabbing and will get a lot more targets than Moss got. I too think 7-8 tds is likely for Boldin - he's a great RZ target. Where he will make a real difference, IMO is between the 20s. I'm betting a good number of his catches are for 1st downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep eventually leans on him on 3rd downs to keep the chains moving.I doubt think there will be a problem with chemistry or rapport between Kaep and Boldin. It won't happen overnight but Boldin understands that the work has to start now in order to translate into the regular season. Once Manningham is back 100%, our WR corps will look much improved over last year. And if just one of the 3 or 4 young WRs on the roster pans out, we will be loaded with weapons.
I'd think Boldin would be huge on 3rd down, to which the 49ers are finally improving upon, now with Kaep. I think Kaep adapts faster to receivers than Smith had, who with FA WR's didn't target much. I still think they need to find one more WR in the draft, and big physical target around the size of VD. Maybe one more TE as well.
 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
It's not so much the ability - because even though Moss had been out for a period of time, he still has the natural ability to make plays, big time plays - it's the amount of targets and where he fit in the 49er offense. Moss during the regular season: 28 rec for 434 yards, 3 TDs.

I don't put that on Moss. I put that more on the QB and the OC. Although Moss was wide open on a lot of plays that either Smith and to a lesser extent Kaep didn't look his way or target him, especially Smith. Moss' complaint that he wasn't used much in the 49er offense kinda holds true. He basically was a decoy on a lot of plays where he was open deep, but just stretching the defense for all of the other plays and targets.

Now where Boldin fits, who knows? He is not known for the separation Moss brought, or speed, but lets take a peek and then try to project where he would be in the dynamic and versatile 49er offense with Kaep under center now, by looking at his BAL numbers of 2012:

65 rec, 921 yards, 4TDs.

Now there is a HUGE difference in receptions and yards, but again I don't pin that on each WR's respective abilities. BAL changed their offense during the season like the 49ers had, but the 49ers change was at QB and what he could bring as far as all the options due to Kaep's skill set and natural athletic ability. All of Kaep's attributes will still hold true and go even further into the playbook this off-season, but Kaep still has to spread the ball around to all of the other targets such as Crabs, Davis, etc.

So do we split the difference of Boldin's season and Moss' in the 49er offense? I see less receptions and yards for Boldin this upcoming season, but the kicker is a jump in TDs to maybe around 7 or 8. Moss was one TD less (where he could have have at least two more) than Boldin last season with the 49ers. I'm being generous with TDs for Boldin, but I am just looking at the upside with the greater RZ opportunities.
Ever since I read THIS article, I find myself looking for the "incorrect" spelling more often... and your reply was full of them :P
 
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I hear ya drummer. Moss wasn't on the field much, I dont recall the percentage of plays though. I'm pretty sure Bodin will be WR2 entering the season since Manningham is still rehabbing and will get a lot more targets than Moss got. I too think 7-8 tds is likely for Boldin - he's a great RZ target. Where he will make a real difference, IMO is between the 20s. I'm betting a good number of his catches are for 1st downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep eventually leans on him on 3rd downs to keep the chains moving.I doubt think there will be a problem with chemistry or rapport between Kaep and Boldin. It won't happen overnight but Boldin understands that the work has to start now in order to translate into the regular season. Once Manningham is back 100%, our WR corps will look much improved over last year. And if just one of the 3 or 4 young WRs on the roster pans out, we will be loaded with weapons.
I'd think Boldin would be huge on 3rd down, to which the 49ers are finally improving upon, now with Kaep. I think Kaep adapts faster to receivers than Smith had, who with FA WR's didn't target much. I still think they need to find one more WR in the draft, and big physical target around the size of VD. Maybe one more TE as well.
Ertz
 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
It's not so much the ability - because even though Moss had been out for a period of time, he still has the natural ability to make plays, big time plays - it's the amount of targets and where he fit in the 49er offense. Moss during the regular season: 28 rec for 434 yards, 3 TDs.

I don't put that on Moss. I put that more on the QB and the OC. Although Moss was wide open on a lot of plays that either Smith and to a lesser extent Kaep didn't look his way or target him, especially Smith. Moss' complaint that he wasn't used much in the 49er offense kinda holds true. He basically was a decoy on a lot of plays where he was open deep, but just stretching the defense for all of the other plays and targets.

Now where Boldin fits, who knows? He is not known for the separation Moss brought, or speed, but lets take a peek and then try to project where he would be in the dynamic and versatile 49er offense with Kaep under center now, by looking at his BAL numbers of 2012:

65 rec, 921 yards, 4TDs.

Now there is a HUGE difference in receptions and yards, but again I don't pin that on each WR's respective abilities. BAL changed their offense during the season like the 49ers had, but the 49ers change was at QB and what he could bring as far as all the options due to Kaep's skill set and natural athletic ability. All of Kaep's attributes will still hold true and go even further into the playbook this off-season, but Kaep still has to spread the ball around to all of the other targets such as Crabs, Davis, etc.

So do we split the difference of Boldin's season and Moss' in the 49er offense? I see less receptions and yards for Boldin this upcoming season, but the kicker is a jump in TDs to maybe around 7 or 8. Moss was one TD less (where he could have have at least two more) than Boldin last season with the 49ers. I'm being generous with TDs for Boldin, but I am just looking at the upside with the greater RZ opportunities.
Ever since I read THIS article, I find myself looking for the "incorrect" spelling more often... and your reply was full of them :P
Tre used to call me a "troll" there for bagging on Sing and his coaching, even when I wrote for that site. So I'm spelling it right.
 
I hear ya drummer. Moss wasn't on the field much, I dont recall the percentage of plays though. I'm pretty sure Bodin will be WR2 entering the season since Manningham is still rehabbing and will get a lot more targets than Moss got. I too think 7-8 tds is likely for Boldin - he's a great RZ target. Where he will make a real difference, IMO is between the 20s. I'm betting a good number of his catches are for 1st downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep eventually leans on him on 3rd downs to keep the chains moving.I doubt think there will be a problem with chemistry or rapport between Kaep and Boldin. It won't happen overnight but Boldin understands that the work has to start now in order to translate into the regular season. Once Manningham is back 100%, our WR corps will look much improved over last year. And if just one of the 3 or 4 young WRs on the roster pans out, we will be loaded with weapons.
I'd think Boldin would be huge on 3rd down, to which the 49ers are finally improving upon, now with Kaep. I think Kaep adapts faster to receivers than Smith had, who with FA WR's didn't target much. I still think they need to find one more WR in the draft, and big physical target around the size of VD. Maybe one more TE as well.
Ertz
He's gonna go high in the draft, yet they can package picks and such for him. But he still might be too much given all of the other 49er needs.
 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
It's not so much the ability - because even though Moss had been out for a period of time, he still has the natural ability to make plays, big time plays - it's the amount of targets and where he fit in the 49er offense. Moss during the regular season: 28 rec for 434 yards, 3 TDs.

I don't put that on Moss. I put that more on the QB and the OC. Although Moss was wide open on a lot of plays that either Smith and to a lesser extent Kaep didn't look his way or target him, especially Smith. Moss' complaint that he wasn't used much in the 49er offense kinda holds true. He basically was a decoy on a lot of plays where he was open deep, but just stretching the defense for all of the other plays and targets.

Now where Boldin fits, who knows? He is not known for the separation Moss brought, or speed, but lets take a peek and then try to project where he would be in the dynamic and versatile 49er offense with Kaep under center now, by looking at his BAL numbers of 2012:

65 rec, 921 yards, 4TDs.

Now there is a HUGE difference in receptions and yards, but again I don't pin that on each WR's respective abilities. BAL changed their offense during the season like the 49ers had, but the 49ers change was at QB and what he could bring as far as all the options due to Kaep's skill set and natural athletic ability. All of Kaep's attributes will still hold true and go even further into the playbook this off-season, but Kaep still has to spread the ball around to all of the other targets such as Crabs, Davis, etc.

So do we split the difference of Boldin's season and Moss' in the 49er offense? I see less receptions and yards for Boldin this upcoming season, but the kicker is a jump in TDs to maybe around 7 or 8. Moss was one TD less (where he could have have at least two more) than Boldin last season with the 49ers. I'm being generous with TDs for Boldin, but I am just looking at the upside with the greater RZ opportunities.
Ever since I read THIS article, I find myself looking for the "incorrect" spelling more often... and your reply was full of them :P
Tre used to call me a "troll" there for bagging on Sing and his coaching, even when I wrote for that site. So I'm spelling it right.
But what about Tim K's tweet on checking with the 49ers (also contained in the article)... I think Kaep is the way to go, but it looks like the man himself prefers Kap.I agree on the Ertz thing too, but it wouldn't surprise me if they went for him that high. Especially given the history with him and Jim.

 
'drummer said:
'goldenchild said:
From a fantasy football standpoint, I've always been a big fan of Quan since his days in AZ. I'm pretty stoked he's on our team now. Can't wait to see him perform in the Red and Gold.
Let's hope he isn't Moss part deux.
I highly doubt he is. He hasn't been away from the game like Moss was, and he has stayed productive. He's only hit double digit TDs once in his career, so dont expect too much in that dept.He had 65rec, 921yds, 4tds in 15 games last year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BoldAn00.htm?mobile=false
It's not so much the ability - because even though Moss had been out for a period of time, he still has the natural ability to make plays, big time plays - it's the amount of targets and where he fit in the 49er offense. Moss during the regular season: 28 rec for 434 yards, 3 TDs.

I don't put that on Moss. I put that more on the QB and the OC. Although Moss was wide open on a lot of plays that either Smith and to a lesser extent Kaep didn't look his way or target him, especially Smith. Moss' complaint that he wasn't used much in the 49er offense kinda holds true. He basically was a decoy on a lot of plays where he was open deep, but just stretching the defense for all of the other plays and targets.

Now where Boldin fits, who knows? He is not known for the separation Moss brought, or speed, but lets take a peek and then try to project where he would be in the dynamic and versatile 49er offense with Kaep under center now, by looking at his BAL numbers of 2012:

65 rec, 921 yards, 4TDs.

Now there is a HUGE difference in receptions and yards, but again I don't pin that on each WR's respective abilities. BAL changed their offense during the season like the 49ers had, but the 49ers change was at QB and what he could bring as far as all the options due to Kaep's skill set and natural athletic ability. All of Kaep's attributes will still hold true and go even further into the playbook this off-season, but Kaep still has to spread the ball around to all of the other targets such as Crabs, Davis, etc.

So do we split the difference of Boldin's season and Moss' in the 49er offense? I see less receptions and yards for Boldin this upcoming season, but the kicker is a jump in TDs to maybe around 7 or 8. Moss was one TD less (where he could have have at least two more) than Boldin last season with the 49ers. I'm being generous with TDs for Boldin, but I am just looking at the upside with the greater RZ opportunities.
Ever since I read THIS article, I find myself looking for the "incorrect" spelling more often... and your reply was full of them :P
Tre used to call me a "troll" there for bagging on Sing and his coaching, even when I wrote for that site. So I'm spelling it right.
But what about Tim K's tweet on checking with the 49ers (also contained in the article)... I think Kaep is the way to go, but it looks like the man himself prefers Kap.I agree on the Ertz thing too, but it wouldn't surprise me if they went for him that high. Especially given the history with him and Jim.
You know I go against the usual fan/49er conventions don't you? I thought you knew me by now? :P

 
I agree on the Ertz thing too, but it wouldn't surprise me if they went for him that high. Especially given the history with him and Jim.
While I love Ertz and would love to see him in SF, what would they do with Vernon Davis? It's hard enough for Davis to break through and post another season number like he did in 2009 under Jimmy Raye's offense. He hasn't even posted a 1000 yard season yet like his contemporaries like Witten, Gonzalez, or Gronkowski. If they drafted Ertz high he would definately be in the starting rotation where Walker used to be in the two TE set, and just how would Davis react if Ertz posted better numbers or was targeted more because Davis again is held back to block? Davis being there, along with Ertz probably going high makes it unrealistic, with Davis going into his prime. I dunno the status of Davis' contract, so you could think that Ertz would be a sort of TE in waiting that would be cheaper the next few years. But again given the 49ers greater needs, Ertz would be a luxury pick that would be expensive as far as picks.
 
'Wingnut said:
Lulz. I actually like Lynch and Branch more than anything CSN Bay Area. Maiocco has become Jed's lapdog like JT The Brick was with Al Davis. He was gutless during the Sing era. Barrows is alright, but I hardly ever read any of the Bay Area propaganda that the local media has become since they are afraid of both Harbaugh and Jed. Hunter coming back is good news, although another Bell Cow is in order to be a true replacement to Gore. Draft looks to have DB, DT/NT, RB, WR, QB, DT, and DB along with whatever they go after in the 6th-7th. Well, that's my half assed mock order.

 
I read that HE called the 49ers, they did not reach out to him. There's no harm in having a guy in for a look-see though.

 
I read that HE called the 49ers, they did not reach out to him. There's no harm in having a guy in for a look-see though.
My 'favorite' site tries to make a case for him.

A comment that kinda makes sense:

Well if you're going to look at White, might as well look at Vince Young
Another that is quite a bit optimistic from the other article posted:

Pat White might just be the perfect No. 3 quarterback for the 49ers. He might have all the qualities Harbaugh looks for in a quarterback, especially athleticism. White completed about 65% of his passes in college, which is very good. I think Harbaugh will give him a contract and watch how he progresses, especially in the preseason games.
Is there such a thing as 'the perfect #3 QB'?

 
Don't mind the colt McCoy acquisition. I guess he's a better insurance policy than Tolzien. Didnt really cost anything.

 
Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefterTerms of deal: Browns agree to trade QB Colt McCoy and 6th-round pick to San Francisco for 5th- and 7th-round picks. Niners have new backup.

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Good trade for both clubs.

San Fran had a need for an experienced backup QB with athleticism after trading Smith.

They have a surplus of picks and some of those late round picks will not have a shot to make the club so bundling a couple for an expereinced starter makes a lot of sense.

Also the Browns were a pick shy in this draft after selecting WR Josh Gordon in last year's supplemental draft. The Browns just picked up QB Jason Cambell who fits Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner's vertical offense because Jason has the size and a bigger arm than Colt and a big arm is a requirement for the vert-stretch.

You'll like Colt. He is not big nor does he have a strong arm but his lack of a gun won't be as big of a disadvantage late in the season in SF as apposed to late in the year in Cleveland where the ball would hang in the cold icy air and die. The Bay area gets chilly but its not the same as surviving a game late in December in CBS sitting in a blizzard on six inches of ice with a wind chill factor of -19. .

He is much more athletic than you might imagine. He's capable of making some incredibly athletic plays. He's been a solid proffessional. Few Browns fans would say anythng bad about Colt. We wish him well. You will be very happy with him.

 
Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefterTerms of deal: Browns agree to trade QB Colt McCoy and 6th-round pick to San Francisco for 5th- and 7th-round picks. Niners have new backup.

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Good trade for both clubs.

San Fran had a need for an experienced backup QB with athleticism after trading Smith.

They have a surplus of picks and some of those late round picks will not have a shot to make the club so bundling a couple for an expereinced starter makes a lot of sense.

Also the Browns were a pick shy in this draft after selecting WR Josh Gordon in last year's supplemental draft. The Browns just picked up QB Jason Cambell who fits Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner's vertical offense because Jason has the size and a bigger arm than Colt and a big arm is a requirement for the vert-stretch.

You'll like Colt. He is not big nor does he have a strong arm but his lack of a gun won't be as big of a disadvantage late in the season in SF as apposed to late in the year in Cleveland where the ball would hang in the cold icy air and die. The Bay area gets chilly but its not the same as surviving a game late in December in CBS sitting in a blizzard on six inches of ice with a wind chill factor of -19. .

He is much more athletic than you might imagine. He's capable of making some incredibly athletic plays. He's been a solid proffessional. Few Browns fans would say anythng bad about Colt. We wish him well. You will be very happy with him.
I liked him in Texas. Always thought he had enough talent to be solid in the NFL in a WCO scheme. Still is a young guy who can benefit from being a backup in SF. Not a bad pickup who like the catch said didn't cost really anything,

 
Kevin Lynch thinks it's no April Fool's joke

The 49ers continued to fill needs Monday, when they dealt a fifth- and seventh-round choice this year’s NFL Draft for Browns quarterback Colt McCoy. It means the 49ers quarterback cupboard is now full with starter Colin Kaepernick and backups Scott Tolzien and McCoy.

The 49ers also get a sixth round draft choice in the deal.

McCoy became a star at the University of Texas and finished second to Sam Bradford in the 2008 Heisman Trophy race. However, he faltered as a starter in Cleveland. In three NFL seasons, he compiled a 74.8 passer rating with 21 touchdowns and 20 interceptions. The last time we saw McCoy in a significant game, he was getting concussed by Steelers linebacker James Harrison in the 14th game of the 2011 season.

McCoy’s inability to win a starting job prompted the Browns to draft Brandon Weeden in the first round of last year’s draft.

The trade for McCoy is somewhat of a surprise, because he plays similarly to Tolzien. Both are smart but physically limited.

Hopefully this trade is April Fool’s Day-proof. One key fact: McCoy will no longer have to wear the orange of his college and first professional team. That could improve his play dramatically.
BTW, my new favorite troll in Alexlover has a comment there:

Alexlover4:01 PM on April 1, 2013

Tolzein is the only real QB we have on the roster right now. Will he get a chance to start for Coach "Classless" Hairball? No only if Tattoo Boy goes down. With Walsh here Tolzein is our starter and rightly so because he epitifies what a 49ers QB should be, something fans who are easily brainwashed, magically forgot here. With our self absorbed, selfish coach Harbaugh we got a QB who has no business being here unless the circus was in town and Jimmy Raye was still our OC.

Flacco finally won because he had a team that had confidence and stood by him. They won because he had class and represented the position they way it suppose to be represented. Alex finally would've won and got his props he deserved but our backstabbing coach again thought it was all about him and tried to win it on his own ridiculous terms. We all know how it backfired on him because selfish, balloon heads like Hairball never win.

Little do fans now it's over and Harbaugh will never reached the Super Bowl again but as I can see, that's not going to stop the guppies here from still believing.

GO ALEX!!!! GO TO THE CHIEFS AND WIN WITH CLASS!!! Leave the Tattoo Parlor, 502's, Classless Dances and classless touchdown moves here at Coach Harbaugh's New 49er Penitentiary, where there are no more rules or standards!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
Shrewd move to get McCoy... As a Texas alum I can safely say that he didn't get enough credit for what he was able to accomplish following in the shadow of Vince Young. They still haven't found a qb to fill the void left by McCoy.

I see McCoy as basically a very young Shaun Hill, a high floor/low ceiling guy that can bring it during a game. In fact I don't see he and Smith as being that far off in physical ability.

 
If the 49ers' defense struggles like it did at the end of last year, and they are relying on the offense to win games, Kaepernick is going to be simply irreplaceable. The team we saw walk off the field a couple of months ago couldn't win with game managers like Alex Smith/Hill/McCoy. We'll see if they can improve the defensive depth enough this offseason to get the defense back up to its dominant standards.

 
Niners signed Nnamndi. 1 year 1.35 mil base salary with incentives up to 3 mil.

Wow. Talk about low risk/high reward.

 
Niners signed Nnamndi. 1 year 1.35 mil base salary with incentives up to 3 mil.Wow. Talk about low risk/high reward.
Pretty crazy to see how much he dropped as far as salary. Low risk indeed, but jeebus the market was soft on him for a reason.

 
I'm happier with the Nmandi cost-benefit ratio more than I would have with Revis.

So, can he still match strides with guys like Harvin in man coverage?

 

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