I think they most likely trade back, if not I'd expect WR or a DL. Lynch's comments earlier this week did not make it seem like he was enamored with the top of the OL draft class.
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*** San Francisco 49ers thread *** running it back in 2024 with 18 of 22 Super Bowl starters (2 Viewers)
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Wingnut
Footballguy
The 49ers have had conversations with teams, including with one picking in the top 10, about trading either of their prized wide receivers Brandon Aiyuk or Deebo Samuel in an effort to move up in the first round, per sources.
They needed WR. Seems like there was more value left at CB but my draft knowledge consists of listening to a handful of podcasts this week. Little surprised they didn’t go with the DT, Newton or whatever.
cdclopper
Footballguy
Great pick by the 49ers, even if Aiyuk might disagree.
Not really sure why Pearsall was rated so low, but this was a flaw in the consensus. Hes a crafty receiver who gets open against all different types of coverage. Meanwhile having combine numbers comparable to Julio Jones.
Not really sure why Pearsall was rated so low, but this was a flaw in the consensus. Hes a crafty receiver who gets open against all different types of coverage. Meanwhile having combine numbers comparable to Julio Jones.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Love Pearsall, but surprised that he or Legette went first round. SF got a good football player though and probably planning on moving on from Deebo or Aiyuk after this season so they have to fill the cabinet.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Aiyuk is a fan: “fire pick, can’t lie”
Lots of mock drafters are upset that he went 10 picks before they thought he would, but it seems like people more in the know were higher on him than the draftniks.
Stats show about 30 % of first round picks go on to actually have a good career in the NFL - 70% mostly tank or end up as backups
There are no 'in the know' people
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I actually like the pick. RGIII comped him to Kelce, which at 6’1, 190 I don’t really see - I think he meant he makes tough contested catches & has that dog in him.
But if the move is dealing Deebo, this makes a lot of sense. From his highlights he’s certainly comfortable running sweeps out of the backfield, he has burst, hands, YAC, looks like he runs good routes, too.
Imma let it breathe & see what the Niners do today before grading this pick. I’m kinda excited they didn’t go defense in such an offense-littered draft.
But if the move is dealing Deebo, this makes a lot of sense. From his highlights he’s certainly comfortable running sweeps out of the backfield, he has burst, hands, YAC, looks like he runs good routes, too.
Imma let it breathe & see what the Niners do today before grading this pick. I’m kinda excited they didn’t go defense in such an offense-littered draft.
The whole thing is a crapshoot, but I still put more stock in the professional evaluators (including the top guys in the media) rather than the website writers who have been grinding tape for the last month who are doing most of the blogging on this stuff.
I suppose but just pointing out teams of people paid millions of $$$s who only have one job evaluating talent get it wrong 70% of the time
I was in let-down mode regardless because I really wanted Wiggins to fall but those bastages from Baltimore ruined that. Pearsall kind of surprised me but the more I read about him, warming up to the pick. Loved the CJ Stroud reaction when he was picked, https://youtube.com/shorts/ieAFo-YidnI?si=pk_3_5ZD9brIflII
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Sorry
I'm not feeling a lot of sincerity here lolSorry
Now, you'll probably take Rosegarden right in front of us round 2
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'm close to positive Baltimore is taking OL tonight. I just don't know who, when, or how.I'm not feeling a lot of sincerity here lolSorry
Now, you'll probably take Rosegarden right in front of us round 2
Listening to DeCosta & Harbaugh last night, they seemed to be saying there are a bunch of OL they like that will be available when they pick. Of course, the Ravens lie about everything, so take however many grains of salt as seems appropriate
Wingnut
Footballguy
Ricky Pearsall isn't shy about his talent and abilities.
"I’m very confident in my football abilities. I’m obviously a great athlete. I think highly of myself.
I’m one of the best receivers in the 2024 NFL Draft. That’s the simple way of putting things.
I’m a workhorse. I think I have that going for me. I’ve improved every single season. I’m a very consistent, detail-oriented worker. Like I said earlier, I’m an elite route-runner. I know how to set defenders up with my routes. I really understand the art of route-running."
Link
The more I read the more I'm on board with the pick. Pearsall makes his living over the middle where Shanahan loves to attack, and he has elite speed and hands.
"I’m very confident in my football abilities. I’m obviously a great athlete. I think highly of myself.
I’m one of the best receivers in the 2024 NFL Draft. That’s the simple way of putting things.
I’m a workhorse. I think I have that going for me. I’ve improved every single season. I’m a very consistent, detail-oriented worker. Like I said earlier, I’m an elite route-runner. I know how to set defenders up with my routes. I really understand the art of route-running."
Link
The more I read the more I'm on board with the pick. Pearsall makes his living over the middle where Shanahan loves to attack, and he has elite speed and hands.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Another thought that strikes me is they run it back with Deebo, sign Aiyuk, and work in the new kid for their SB run, and that way they’ve built depth in the event of a Deebo injury, and they have a backup plan if/when they let Deebo walk next year to pay Purdy.
I’m not writing off keeping Deebo at all, though I could see another team offering them something they couldn’t resist in trade during the 2nd round.
If the 2nd round gets past pick 15 or so, I’m thinking they keep the band together.
I’m not writing off keeping Deebo at all, though I could see another team offering them something they couldn’t resist in trade during the 2nd round.
If the 2nd round gets past pick 15 or so, I’m thinking they keep the band together.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Same. RGIII loves the guy.
Wingnut
Footballguy
How 49ers Super Bowl loss led to Pearsall draft selection:
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
How 49ers' Super Bowl loss led to Pearsall draft selection
The reason for the 49ers’ Ricky Pearsall selection can be traced back to the team’s crushing Super Bowl LVIII loss in February.
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
I was fine with them taking a WR (not that I had a choice). With Purdy developing, they should be throwing the ball more and having another WR made sense. Even if they don't move Deebo (I have a feeling they are), Pearsall will help. I like Jennings and all, but he's more of a TE type.How 49ers Super Bowl loss led to Pearsall draft selection:
How 49ers' Super Bowl loss led to Pearsall draft selection
The reason for the 49ers’ Ricky Pearsall selection can be traced back to the team’s crushing Super Bowl LVIII loss in February.
My first response was definitely not positive, a f-bomb laced reaction. But feeling better about it now. Joked about the CJ Stroud reaction earlier, but that guy knows his WRs. He was the one who insisted the Texans take Tank Dell last year when most deemed Dell "too small".
Wingnut
Footballguy
According to @SumerSports, new 49ers WR Ricky Pearsall was second among all WRs in the draft in average separation and third in separation when the ball is in the air. He was WR7 in YAC.
Average Separation:
1. Xavier Worthy, 3.54 yards
2. Ricky Pearsall, 3.25 yards
3. Xavier Leggette, 3.03 yards
Worthy, Pearsall and Leggette went within 4 picks of each other at 28, 31, and 32.
Average Separation:
1. Xavier Worthy, 3.54 yards
2. Ricky Pearsall, 3.25 yards
3. Xavier Leggette, 3.03 yards
Worthy, Pearsall and Leggette went within 4 picks of each other at 28, 31, and 32.
Wingnut
Footballguy
CJ Stroud reacts to the 49ers drafting Pearsall:
"Damn they got Pearsall, I wanted him bad.
How was he even on their radar?!
Hes elite, youll see."
"Damn they got Pearsall, I wanted him bad.
How was he even on their radar?!
Hes elite, youll see."
Wingnut
Footballguy
"I don't think the 49ers trade either Brandon Aiyuk OR Deebo Samuel... Ricky Pearsall is a smart wide receiver. I think he's going to play as a rookie, which we haven't seen a lot."
- @jenniferleechan via @SteinyGuru957
The [Ricky Pearsall pick] is for now and the future... It means we can keep Brandon Aiyuk AND Deebo Samuel for one more year together and it gives you insurance for the future."
- Steiny via @SteinyGuru957.
- @jenniferleechan via @SteinyGuru957
The [Ricky Pearsall pick] is for now and the future... It means we can keep Brandon Aiyuk AND Deebo Samuel for one more year together and it gives you insurance for the future."
- Steiny via @SteinyGuru957.
Silver seems to be losing confidence Deebo will be traded. https://x.com/mikesilver/status/1783994397643993490?s=46&t=uanS4qV7tV2E5v8MzO027A
Would be nice to keep the band together and kick *** this year
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Called it. Ha.I'm not feeling a lot of sincerity here lolSorry
Now, you'll probably take Rosegarden right in front of us round 2
God I hate being right all the timeCalled it. Ha.I'm not feeling a lot of sincerity here lolSorry
Now, you'll probably take Rosegarden right in front of us round 2
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
go watch the LSU-FSU tape
Green is nasty
- v Malik Nabers - 5 targets, 2 catches, 20 yards, 1 INT, 1 PBU
I mean really great
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
He seems a better real-world player than a fantasy player. I saw more drops than I expected. The workout numbers were incredible, but the production seemed lacking to me. He landed in a good place, though. He had some wow catches, and his body adjustment is good, but for being as great as he thinks he is, defensive backs seemed to be in his hip pocket facing press coverage. I did not see the offline burst; he appeared to play slower than his 40 time.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
I thought I saw a stat that stated he had 2 drops his entire collegiate career? Most “experts” I’ve seen say his hands are exceptional. Just surprised by that part of your comment but I haven’t seen much tape on him.
From the Athletic: “Overall, Green is a polarizing prospect among NFL teams, because he doesn’t have desired size, speed or ball-tracking skills and won’t be a fit for every scheme. ” sounds awesome
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I reviewed two game tapes, South Carolina / LSU 2023, and all catches and targets from 2023. I counted at least four. I have not done anything with his 2022, but I have a full-time job, so I typically go through the recent season unless there is a reason to look at 2022. Here are all the catches and targets from 2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnmGTQisFqA&t=629s
If there is an injury or I don't get a feel for a player, I'll go further back. South Carolina was his highest-production game: 10 catches/166 yards and one touchdown. South Carolina played a lot of off-coverage. He is talented. I think he is talented. I did not think he was going in the first round, but he did, so there is that. LOL. He has some really good body adjustments. The QB play did not do him a lot of justice.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
New 49ers OL Dominic Puni started 25 games split between left guard and left tackle at Kansas over the past two seasons.
At LT in 2023, he allowed four pressures and no sacks. He was 1 of 3 FBS left tackles with at least 700 snaps at the position and no sacks allowed.
At LT in 2023, he allowed four pressures and no sacks. He was 1 of 3 FBS left tackles with at least 700 snaps at the position and no sacks allowed.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Most of the league plays quarters / quarters half. If your DC favors press man he's the guy. Def a flavor of CB who doesn't fit every scheme.
PFF: "Green is a calm and confident man-coverage cornerback with CB2 potential for a team that likes to play press coverage."
Lance Zierlein draft profile at NFL.com
Rakestraw, widely mocked to the Lions at 1.29 a few months ago, was CB6 - went 2.61. Green is consensus CB7 (2.64) so these are chalk picks that are both great from a scheme fit perspective.
Wingnut
Footballguy
49ers GM John Lynch says the team “didn’t entertain any of that today” when asked about potentially trading WR Deebo Samuel or WR Brandon Aiyuk.
Maintains that Niners are very happy with their current WR group.
Maintains that Niners are very happy with their current WR group.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
I like the draft so far. Potential impact player in Pearsall and guys who seemingly have the ability to contribute next year in Green and Puni. They are all a bit older, hopefully that means more mature? Puni is 24 and Pearsall and Green will turn 24 in September and November, respectively.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Lombardi:
The 49ers have needed to add a safety and they do so in the 4th round, drafting Wake Forest's Malik Mustapha — one of the best run defenders in the draft at the position.
Mustapha is a ball of muscle at 5-10, 210 pounds. 4.5 40... he didn't commit a single penalty over 4 years in college.
Also: gunner experience. Special teams will be important to make a crowded SF 53-man roster
The 49ers have needed to add a safety and they do so in the 4th round, drafting Wake Forest's Malik Mustapha — one of the best run defenders in the draft at the position.
Mustapha is a ball of muscle at 5-10, 210 pounds. 4.5 40... he didn't commit a single penalty over 4 years in college.
Also: gunner experience. Special teams will be important to make a crowded SF 53-man roster
Wingnut
Footballguy
Love what I'm reading about Mustapha. Some opinions:
Steal for the 49ers with Malik Mustapha. Violent player and maybe the best tackler in the class. Explosive downhill missile
Wake Strong Safety. Best Tackling DB in the class. Attacks downhill at a high level. Great anticipation. Smart angles. Solid pick.
Malik Mustapha is my #1 safety in the 2024 class. Outstanding form tackler who plays with controlled violence all the time. Awesome vs the run. Can play all over. Not a ball hawk as a deep safety, but his range is underrated.
Malik Mustapha is a bargain for SF. The dude can flat out play physical DB football.
New 49ers S Malik Mustapha was especially strong in coverage for the Demon Deacons in 2023. He held opposing QBs to a 32% completion rate, which was sixth best in FBS among safeties with a minimum of 400 snaps. He allowed one touchdown in 304 coverage snaps.
Malik Mustapha's grades via PFF in 2023:
Run Defense: 96th percentile
Run Stop: 95th percentile
Slot Coverage: 90th percentile
The 49ers have added a physical safety to help them in run support and even in coverage. Versatile defender.
Steal for the 49ers with Malik Mustapha. Violent player and maybe the best tackler in the class. Explosive downhill missile
Wake Strong Safety. Best Tackling DB in the class. Attacks downhill at a high level. Great anticipation. Smart angles. Solid pick.
Malik Mustapha is my #1 safety in the 2024 class. Outstanding form tackler who plays with controlled violence all the time. Awesome vs the run. Can play all over. Not a ball hawk as a deep safety, but his range is underrated.
Malik Mustapha is a bargain for SF. The dude can flat out play physical DB football.
New 49ers S Malik Mustapha was especially strong in coverage for the Demon Deacons in 2023. He held opposing QBs to a 32% completion rate, which was sixth best in FBS among safeties with a minimum of 400 snaps. He allowed one touchdown in 304 coverage snaps.
Malik Mustapha's grades via PFF in 2023:
Run Defense: 96th percentile
Run Stop: 95th percentile
Slot Coverage: 90th percentile
The 49ers have added a physical safety to help them in run support and even in coverage. Versatile defender.
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