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Santonio Holmes facing 4 game suspension (1 Viewer)

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Sources: Santonio Holmes facing four-game suspension

Posted by Mike Florio on April 10, 2010 11:24 AM ETLate Friday afternoon brought good news for the Pittsburgh Steelers, with the report from ESPN that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be charged with sexual assault in Milledgeville, Georgia.

Now for the bad news.

Multiple sources have advised us that receiver Santonio Holmes is facing a four-game suspension under the league's substance-abuse policy. It's presently unknown whether Holmes tested positive for a prohibited substance or committed some other violation of the policy, such as missing a required test. It's our current understanding that the internal NFL appeals process has not been finalized.

Under the substance-abuse policy, a four game suspension comes after multiple violations. The fact that Holmes, the MVP of Super Bowl XLIII, is facing a four-game suspension means that Holmes previously has paid a fine in the amount of three seventeenths of his base salary (i.e., three game checks).

Though we're not aware of the specific identity of the substance involved, Holmes has a history with marijuana. In 2008, he was cited for marijuana possession, prompting the Steelers to suspend him for one game with pay. Recently, he posted on Twitter a message indicating an intention to "wake n bake," slang for smoking marijuana upon getting out of bed.

Holmes also has recently been accused of throwing a drink in the face of a woman at an Orlando nightclub. The alleged victim has both sued Holmes and pursued criminal liability, after indicating on the scene that she did not want to press charges. His lawyer has denied the accusations, recently claiming that a witness has signed a sworn statement taking responsibility for throwing the drink. The suspension Holmes faces arose independently of this alleged incident.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ame-suspension/

 
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It wouldn't surprise me. Holmes is in the middle of a "perfect storm" right now with this being his contract year, the misconduct allegations and the civil suit, the prior for marijuana possession, the Twitter controversy, and local media's second-hand reports of him telling associates that the Steelers "won't pay him what he's worth" and that he "would rather play in a bigger market" next season.

If this rumor turns out to be true, I expect the Steelers will use a second or third round pick on a receiver in the draft, If that happens, I think Holmes is as good as gone after this season.

 
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It wouldn't surprise me. Holmes is in the middle of a "perfect storm" right now with this being his contract year, the misconduct allegations and the civil suit, the prior for marijuana possession, the Twitter controversy, and local media's second-hand reports of him telling associates that the Steelers "won't pay him what he's worth" and that he "would rather play in a bigger market" next season.If this turns out to be true, I expect the Steelers will use a second or third round pick on a receiver in the draft, If that happens, I think Holmes is as good as gone after this season.
I believe they will take a WR fairly high; seems like they've been bringing in a lot of rookie wrs for a look-see.I'm sure they've known about Holmes' possible suspension for some time.
 
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i take it holmes is already in the substance abuse program...

advertising his wake and bake intentions, he clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

 
The Steelers had aleady made thoughts towards letting Holmes walk after his contract was up prior to this report. (btw: its PFT - so its anythng but confirmed) Holmes likes to smoke weed and his decision making and lifestyle just don't fit the Steelers style (hi Plaxico!) which is unfortunate.

April 7 visits:

Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant (6-2, 225) [if he slides in round 1]

Notre Dame wide receiver Brandon (Golden?) Tate (5-10, 200) [if he slides in round 2]
April 9 visits

WRs Emmanuel Sanders (SMU) & Arrelious Benn (Illinois)

 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.

Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :shrug:

 
I have Holmes in one of eight dynasty leagues and that's one too many. Several owners have been trying to trade him to me the last two weeks. I guess I'll just hold on to him in that league, because I sure as hell can't trade him for any value. The warning signs have been there for a long time. He is what he is....a pot head who makes bad decisions.

 
The Steelers had aleady made thoughts towards letting Holmes walk after his contract was up prior to this report. (btw: its PFT - so its anythng but confirmed) Holmes likes to smoke weed and his decision making and lifestyle just don't fit the Steelers style (hi Plaxico!) which is unfortunate.

April 7 visits:

Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant (6-2, 225) [if he slides in round 1]

Notre Dame wide receiver Golden Tate (5-10, 200) [if he slides in round 2]
Neither of these will happen.....I seriously doubt the Steelers draft Bryant ahead of their other glaring needs......like OL and every level of that defense.
 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :rolleyes:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :angry:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
You should be worried about the pot, because if a player can't give it up it could lead to a lifetime ban. Yep, that's pretty serious.
 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :angry:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
You should be worried about the pot, because if a player can't give it up it could lead to a lifetime ban. Yep, that's pretty serious.
agree. I still remember Koren Robinson's suspensions for DUIs. Most would discount one or two in college as well. But, the NFL is not messing around on this stuff.
 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.

Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :IBTL:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
Are you saying that Bowe is a juicer?
 
What a joke. Holmes may be an idiot for posting he was going to wake-n-bake, just as it would be stupid for someone to post that he was going to get up and guzzle a bottle of vodka. Unfortunately, in this backwards country, the latter is perfectly fine, while the former is grounds for suspension or in the regular working environment, termination. There are far more harmful things than pot that are perfectly legal. Enough already. Just legalize the stuff.

 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :angry:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
You should be worried about the pot, because if a player can't give it up it could lead to a lifetime ban. Yep, that's pretty serious.
I am hopeful American society will finally figure out you can't win a "war on drugs," and legalize pot at least. We get to vote on it in California this year. When it passes, and I expect it will, the rest of the country will follow in a few years.In any case, you can get suspended for Roid use just as easily, and as I said, it masks a players real skill, whereas pot doesn't affect skill at all.
 
This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.

Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :angry:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
Are you saying that Bowe is a juicer?
Yes, we discussed this ad nauseum a few months ago. He was suspended last season for using drugs that mask the use of Roids. His defenders claim it was "just weight loss drugs," but everyone knows that those drugs mask Roids, which is why the NFL forbids them. He knew it; the drugs were on the list of drugs forbidden by the NFL. And I don't think the NFL is banning star players lightly--there is a reason the substance he took is banned. Beyond his suspension, you can look at him and tell that he is likely using Roids by how thick his neck is. Put that together with the drug suspension and judge for yourself. If he gets caught using again his suspension will be even longer.
 
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This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :angry:
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
You should be worried about the pot, because if a player can't give it up it could lead to a lifetime ban. Yep, that's pretty serious.
agree. I still remember Koren Robinson's suspensions for DUIs. Most would discount one or two in college as well. But, the NFL is not messing around on this stuff.
KRob also had a big problem with alcohol. It wasn't just the pot.
 
In any case, you can get suspended for Roid use just as easily, and as I said, it masks a players real skill, whereas pot doesn't affect skill at all.
While I think this is technically true, I don't think it is practically true.While on juice, players have their cycles, and know when they should take masking agents and so on. There isn't much temptation to do steroids just for the hell of it, these guys have it down to a schedule, which I am thinking is why so few players get caught, when it is obvious (to my mind) that there are a lot of players using.Pot, on the other hand, is a casual drug, and guys use it more often, and can trip up pretty easily, and piss hot. I think the nature of the drugs makes pot more dangerous for players to get caught using it.You might worry more about steroids than pot, but they both can keep players from contributing to your fantasy team. And the fact that pot isn't as dangerous in your mind doesn't help your fantasy team.
 
What a joke. Holmes may be an idiot for posting he was going to wake-n-bake, just as it would be stupid for someone to post that he was going to get up and guzzle a bottle of vodka. Unfortunately, in this backwards country, the latter is perfectly fine, while the former is grounds for suspension or in the regular working environment, termination. There are far more harmful things than pot that are perfectly legal. Enough already. Just legalize the stuff.
please keep opinions like this to yourself, this is a football forum.
 
Mike Wallace owners the world across rejoiced at this news.... :)
:goodposting: If accurate, I think this hurts Wallace. He is in no way ready to replace Holmes.I have my doubts of the accuracy of the rumor given that Florio is involved.
 
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Mike Wallace owners the world across rejoiced at this news.... :thumbup:
:thumbup: If accurate, I think this hurts Wallace. He is in no way ready to replace Holmes.I have my doubts of the accuracy of the rumor given that Florio is involved.
The dynasty WR to own on the Steelers will be known in a couple of weeks. I like Wallace however.
 
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This is why GMs are concerned about whether or not players have tested positive in college.Maybe fantasy GMs should be as well. :X
Pot doesn't concern me. Roiding up does because that gives you the illusion that the player is really better than he is and most of them have to stop roiding at some point and then you know. I worry less about Holmes than about Bowe.
You should be worried about the pot, because if a player can't give it up it could lead to a lifetime ban. Yep, that's pretty serious.
I am hopeful American society will finally figure out you can't win a "war on drugs," and legalize pot at least. We get to vote on it in California this year. When it passes, and I expect it will, the rest of the country will follow in a few years.In any case, you can get suspended for Roid use just as easily, and as I said, it masks a players real skill, whereas pot doesn't affect skill at all.
God is perfect, man is not, man made whiskey, God created pot.
 
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Holmes is such an idiot. I am looking forward to the day I can refer to him as a former Steeler WR.
Didn't have a very long wait -- thanks Steelers! :thumbup:
you still giving the steelers thanks for getting a 5th out of the whole deal?!
Yep. He wasn't going to be a Steeler next season any way, was going to miss at least 1/4 of this season, and has been a major headache and embarassment. I will miss him on the field, but off the field I was tired of his act. Good riddance.
 
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Holmes is such an idiot. I am looking forward to the day I can refer to him as a former Steeler WR.
Didn't have a very long wait -- thanks Steelers! :D
you still giving the steelers thanks for getting a 5th out of the whole deal?!
Yep. He wasn't going to be a Steeler next season any way, was going to miss at least 1/4 of this season, and has been a major headache and embarassment. I will miss him on the field, but off the field I was tired of his act. Good riddance.
could be for the same reason the Raiders got rid of Randy Moss for a 4th.It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out this season.
 
Holmes is such an idiot. I am looking forward to the day I can refer to him as a former Steeler WR.
Didn't have a very long wait -- thanks Steelers! :D
you still giving the steelers thanks for getting a 5th out of the whole deal?!
Yep. He wasn't going to be a Steeler next season any way, was going to miss at least 1/4 of this season, and has been a major headache and embarassment. I will miss him on the field, but off the field I was tired of his act. Good riddance.
could be for the same reason the Raiders got rid of Randy Moss for a 4th.It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out this season.
Comparing the Steelers front office moves to the Raiders.Ooff.
 

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