Santonio Holmes Returns this Week (1 Viewer)

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Jets passing game is far more successful than I thought it would be at this ponit of the season (basically minus Holmes). Keller and Edwards are obviously having a great early season, possibly as a result of the LT resurrection. Or perhaps LT's resurrection is a result of Sanchez's solid play.

Either way, all this would seem to translate to a golden opportunity for Holmes and his FF owners. He will be the beneficiary of strong qb play, strong rb play and limited double coverage. At least that's what I am hoping. Anybody see it differently?

 

[1stand2nd]

Jets fan here. In preseason the team, coaches and players, couldn't say enough good things about Holmes as a route runner and catcher. Sanchez seemed to go to him as the primary receiver a lot. He will be the Jets #1 WR right away.

 

[brednbuddah]

Jets passing game is far more successful than I thought it would be at this ponit of the season (basically minus Holmes). Keller and Edwards are obviously having a great early season, possibly as a result of the LT resurrection. Or perhaps LT's resurrection is a result of Sanchez's solid play.

I think you may have answered your own question.Its hard to think Holmes is going to come in make a significant impact right away with the way Sanchez is connecting with Edwards and Keller. I think Holmes goes with pedestrian numbers the next two games (MIN, @DEN) then makes some noise against the Jets' next four opponents who have been susceptible to the pass (GB*, @DET #26 pass D, @CLE #24 pass D, HOU #32 pass D).

* Shaun Hill just passed for 331 yds against GB in wk4.

 

[dharmapunk]

I won't be starting him this week, but I expect (hope) to from week 5 out.

I think it'll take him a week or two to fit back into the emerging offense. That said, he's clearly their most talented WR and should become the Jets' #1 receiving option by Week 8 (again, I hope).

 

[Sabertooth]

With Ocho Cinco stinking up the joint, I may just throw him in to see what shakes out. I think he's going to be uneven as a player and let's not forget this is a rush oriented attack here.

 

[elbowrm]

In Hard Knocks, it seemed like the team was in love with Holmes. Additionally, I can't get that scene of Ryan screaming "I love being right!" (in reference to the LDT signing) out of my mind, and it's leading me to think that they'll be feeding Holmes. Coupled with the fact that the addition of Moss makes it more likely to be a high scoring game (not saying it will be, just that it's more likely), Holmes seems like a sneaky start this week.

Anyone seen any comments in the papers, Jets boards, etc. that may give some more insights?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jets fan here. In preseason the team, coaches and players, couldn't say enough good things about Holmes as a route runner and catcher. Sanchez seemed to go to him as the primary receiver a lot. He will be the Jets #1 WR right away.

From the source.Not a NYJ fan but that has been my take.I'm not starting him vs the Vikes but I could see him have a great first game, I just want to see it first.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

 

[ponchsox]

Does he hurt Keller's value?

 

[Go deep]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

 

[Go deep]

Does he hurt Keller's value?

Maybe slightly, but i wouldnt think much at all. Sanchez loves Keller, and i dont think that is going to change much. Edwards is going to take a big hit though.

 

[Papa Georgio]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

Edwards has played very well this year. I think they can be 1a 1b 1c with Keller.

 

[Papa Georgio]

Does he hurt Keller's value?

As long as every time they get in the red zone teams keep leaving Keller wide open I don't see how it could, or maybe Keller is just getting wide open.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

I noticed, that is why I pointed it out. I am fine with being in the minority... that usually ends up working out well for me. BTW... I don't own either of them in any of my 4 $ leagues. I just really don't think that Holmes is better than Edwards.

 

[Go deep]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

I noticed, that is why I pointed it out. I am fine with being in the minority... that usually ends up working out well for me. BTW... I don't own either of them in any of my 4 $ leagues. I just really don't think that Holmes is better than Edwards.

Even if you dont think Holmes is the better WR, dont you think if the Jets were happy with Edwards they wouldnt have brought Holmes in?

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

I noticed, that is why I pointed it out. I am fine with being in the minority... that usually ends up working out well for me. BTW... I don't own either of them in any of my 4 $ leagues. I just really don't think that Holmes is better than Edwards.

Even if you dont think Holmes is the better WR, dont you think if the Jets were happy with Edwards they wouldnt have brought Holmes in?

I don't see why that would be the case. It isn't a sin to have 2 really good WR's on your team. Cowboys were clearly happy with Miles Austin, but that didn't stop them from drafting Dez Bryant with their first round pick even though they had other needs. I don't think that Baltimore picked up Housh because they weren't happy with Boldin. Just as I don't think that the Bengals picked up TO because they weren't happy with Ocho. It is a huge advantage to have two top notch WR's. Jets clearly took advantage of the uncapped year and tried to put together a super bowl contender. I would think more along the lines of the Jets not being happy with Cotchery as their other starting WR. A two wide receiver set looks a lot better with Edwards and Holmes than it does with Edwards and Cotchery.

 

[flooredyas]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

I noticed, that is why I pointed it out. I am fine with being in the minority... that usually ends up working out well for me. BTW... I don't own either of them in any of my 4 $ leagues. I just really don't think that Holmes is better than Edwards.

Even if you dont think Holmes is the better WR, dont you think if the Jets were happy with Edwards they wouldnt have brought Holmes in?

Shot in the dark-Maybe it will turn out to be Cotchery that they aren't happy with.

 

[Go deep]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I think you are in the minority.

I noticed, that is why I pointed it out. I am fine with being in the minority... that usually ends up working out well for me. BTW... I don't own either of them in any of my 4 $ leagues. I just really don't think that Holmes is better than Edwards.

Even if you dont think Holmes is the better WR, dont you think if the Jets were happy with Edwards they wouldnt have brought Holmes in?

I don't see why that would be the case. It isn't a sin to have 2 really good WR's on your team. Cowboys were clearly happy with Miles Austin, but that didn't stop them from drafting Dez Bryant with their first round pick even though they had other needs. I don't think that Baltimore picked up Housh because they weren't happy with Boldin. Just as I don't think that the Bengals picked up TO because they weren't happy with Ocho. It is a huge advantage to have two top notch WR's. Jets clearly took advantage of the uncapped year and tried to put together a super bowl contender. I would think more along the lines of the Jets not being happy with Cotchery as their other starting WR. A two wide receiver set looks a lot better with Edwards and Holmes than it does with Edwards and Cotchery.

It is possible that Holmes was brought in because they were not happy with Cotchery. I just think sonce both Holmes and Edwards are both "field stretchers" and Cotchery is a possession receiver that Holmes would hurt Edwards more than Cotchery.I think Holmes is the clear #1 WR, with Edwards and Cotchery rotating in as the #2. Considering the Jets are a run first team, and Keller is the #1 target, i dont think there is enough to go around for more than 1 WR. My bet is that WR is Holmes, but i could certainly be wrong, it wouldnt be the first time.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

It is possible that Holmes was brought in because they were not happy with Cotchery. I just think sonce both Holmes and Edwards are both "field stretchers" and Cotchery is a possession receiver that Holmes would hurt Edwards more than Cotchery.I think Holmes is the clear #1 WR, with Edwards and Cotchery rotating in as the #2. Considering the Jets are a run first team, and Keller is the #1 target, i dont think there is enough to go around for more than 1 WR. My bet is that WR is Holmes, but i could certainly be wrong, it wouldnt be the first time.

I doubt that they would have Edwards and Cotchery rotating in as #2. Doesn't make much sense to me, especially considering that both of them have had more time and work with Sanchez than Holmes has. On their own Depth Chart they have Edwards starting on one end with Brad Smith as the #2 behind him... and Cotchery starting on the other end, with Holmes as the #2 behind him. Also, just because they can go deep, doesn't mean that they can't run shorter routes. Holmes and Edwards are also both perfectly capable of running shorter routes... and Cotchery could still be put in the slot if needed... which they shouldn't need it too much with Keller in the middle of the field and LT's receiving ability.

 

[atcdav]

Sanchez has never thrown for 300 yds I dont think. He averages 230-270. Jets love to run, I dont see a lot of upside, 60-80yds a game, and a touchdown every couple of weeks. I am keeping him on my roster for now, in case I am wrong

 

[Go deep]

It is possible that Holmes was brought in because they were not happy with Cotchery. I just think sonce both Holmes and Edwards are both "field stretchers" and Cotchery is a possession receiver that Holmes would hurt Edwards more than Cotchery.I think Holmes is the clear #1 WR, with Edwards and Cotchery rotating in as the #2. Considering the Jets are a run first team, and Keller is the #1 target, i dont think there is enough to go around for more than 1 WR. My bet is that WR is Holmes, but i could certainly be wrong, it wouldnt be the first time.

I doubt that they would have Edwards and Cotchery rotating in as #2. Doesn't make much sense to me, especially considering that both of them have had more time and work with Sanchez than Holmes has. On their own Depth Chart they have Edwards starting on one end with Brad Smith as the #2 behind him... and Cotchery starting on the other end, with Holmes as the #2 behind him. Also, just because they can go deep, doesn't mean that they can't run shorter routes. Holmes and Edwards are also both perfectly capable of running shorter routes... and Cotchery could still be put in the slot if needed... which they shouldn't need it too much with Keller in the middle of the field and LT's receiving ability.

Are you thinking that Holmes is #3 WR for the Jets? He may not start right away, but i would bet good money he will take over as the starter there at some point this season.As far as Edwards and Cotchery, i suppose its possible that Cotchery plays only in 3WR sets, but at this point he has been targeted more than Edwards. Also, Edwardds is only on pace for 48 receptions this season. That is not a guy i want in my starting lineup each week. I doubt his receptions are going to go up now that Holmes is playing.Holmes may not end being a guy someone will want to plug in their starting lineup every week, but i would rather take my chancess with him than Edwards.

 

[NinerFan49]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

Edwards drops a lot of catchable passes.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Guess I don't understand the love. Too many mouths to feed on a team not known for its passing attack. Keller has emerged and you still have Edwards and Cotchery. What kind of numbers are people realistically expecting for him going forward? (Project to a full 16 game season if you want.)

 

[Tyrion]

Guess I don't understand the love. Too many mouths to feed on a team not known for its passing attack. Keller has emerged and you still have Edwards and Cotchery. What kind of numbers are people realistically expecting for him going forward? (Project to a full 16 game season if you want.)

I don't know maybe 60-900-6 for the remainder for the season?

 

[Sabertooth]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

 

[Tyrion]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

Braylon's a drinker where Holmes is a puffer. Everyone knows that puffers play better.

 

[Sabertooth]

That's because its tough to play with a hangover.

 

[cvnpoka]

Guess I don't understand the love. Too many mouths to feed on a team not known for its passing attack. Keller has emerged and you still have Edwards and Cotchery. What kind of numbers are people realistically expecting for him going forward? (Project to a full 16 game season if you want.)

I don't know maybe 60-900-6 for the remainder for the season?

how much you want on the under?

 

[jurrassic]

I think Holmes is more talented than Edwards and it's not that close. I agree it will probably take a few weeks for Holmes and Sanchez to get it going but I think once they do Holmes is going to get alot of looks. Sanchez is going to realize what he has in Holmes pretty quickly. Holmes is alot better than some guys are giving him credit for. I agree that the offensive philosophy is going to hold him back some but the Jets aren't the 1964 Packers. I am hoping for low-end number 2/high 3 numbers. I think Keller is still going to be heavily involved.

 

[Velvet Revolver]

Holmes comes from a great Pittsburgh organization and has a track record of playing big when it matters (Super Bowl) - i see him being the big play - deep Wr for the Jets and a lot more dependable than the head-case Edwards.

Cotchery is just a guy, I can see him being phased out sooner rather than later as a result of Holmes return.

#1 - Holmes

#2 - Keller

#3 - Edwards.

I'm starting Holmes Monday night - Minny will stop the run and force Sanchez to look for Holmes - Vikes can be beaten deep.

 

[Tyrion]

Guess I don't understand the love. Too many mouths to feed on a team not known for its passing attack. Keller has emerged and you still have Edwards and Cotchery. What kind of numbers are people realistically expecting for him going forward? (Project to a full 16 game season if you want.)

I don't know maybe 60-900-6 for the remainder for the season?

how much you want on the under?

60 gazillion dollars but I have to see the color of your money first and it has to all be in 1933 Gold Double Eagles. I am very particular in how I am paid.

 

[The Doctor]

i think the addition of holmes really makes people wonder how far this team will go this year

of course he will eat into keller and edwards catches. but this can also benefit both of them as well. coverage will be drawn towards holmes allowing for more opportunities that may have not been available in the previous weeks.we will have to see his production in the next few weeks to see who the true #1 on the jets is

 

[pollardsvision]

I really don't see why everyone keeps acting like Holmes is such a better receiver than Braylon Edwards. I just don't see it.

I don't know who is better, but I agree with this. Braylon's drops and his performance over the past couple of years have led to that thought (that Holmes is alot better). They were once considered very comparable talents and I think they still should be. Their career numbers are fairly similar, with Holmes having an edge in yards/game (63.9 to 57.2) and Edwards having alot more TDs (though that's skewed by his monster '07). Making it even harder to compare is the QBs they've played with. Holmes has always had one of the 5 best QBs in the league throwing to him and someone with a knack for extending a play, which really helps Holmes. Edwards is currently playing the best QB he's ever played with, in a 2nd year Mark Sanchez. Sending Derek freakin' Anderson to the Pro Bowl was an amazing feat that Edwards pulled off. If Edwards continues to not drop balls this season, then you've got 2 very good and very similarly talented WRs. Not that it'll matter much. I don't see how both perform well for fantasy. In this "high-powered" Jets offense, they've still thrown the ball for less than 700 yards through 4 games, leaning heavily on the TE. They may be scoring points, but this is still a very below-average situation to have 2 good deep threats on.These are 2 very talented WRs, but it's very likely that neither will consistently help fantasy teams. They both have WR1 potential on another team, but together, on the Jets, they are both middle of the road WR3's, imo.

 

[onehung]

I was actually encouraged by Holmes' game last night. Sanchez took several deep shots at him although unsuccessful. He's going to make me a fine wr3 for the rest of the year.

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[Dos46]

I was actually encouraged by Holmes' game last night. Sanchez took several deep shots at him although unsuccessful. He's going to make me a fine wr3 for the rest of the year..

I think he can be a good WR2 in a PPR league.

 

[Clifford]

I was actually encouraged by Holmes' game last night. Sanchez took several deep shots at him although unsuccessful. He's going to make me a fine wr3 for the rest of the year.

How could you not be? He's obviously Sanchez's fave target and they just need to work on their timing a little, and he needs to shake off some rust. I think Holmes is a great WR2 going forward and has WR1 upside if Sanchez can continue on his development. I'm trying to buy him low right now.