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Sciatica Nerve Pain: Make it go away! (1 Viewer)

Peak

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This flared up on Sunday and it is killing me. Whenever I go to stand up, a shooting pain goes down my right leg (from hip to knee). It is painful enough I stop moving. Once it subsides I can slowly start moving again and after a few steps it goes away until I sit down again. I've found a couple of stretches online, but they aren't really helping. I'm popping Advil like candy, but still no relief.

I am physically active - walking every day for 30-60mins, rollerblading 3x a week, and play softball. Team is in the semi-finals this Friday with a chance to repeat as league champs. I want to play, but this pain is killer every time I start moving. I heard exercise is the best thing, but the pain shoots down my leg every time I begin walking, running, moving.

Any ideas/suggestions from the FFA?

 
Sorry to hear man... I've had two surgeries. I played football for about 15 years and it has def left a mark on my body. I dealt with a severely herniated disc at L4/L5 for years. One of the surgeries I had was called a microdiscectomy, which is basically just removing a tiny piece of the disc pressing on the nerve, which then frees it. After I had this surgery, I was feeling relieved and then out of nowhere the disc reherniated. At that juncture I was left with the option to continue fighting through it or have a redo on the surgery. I elected to fight through. The pain was to the point where my right leg hurt so bad I could hardly walk. I'm an extremely active person, below is what I did and I am feeling like a whole new person. In all honesty it still flares up here and there, but nothing I can't handle and nothing close to how I was feeling in the past.

  • Weight loss, I'm between 210 and 215 now... That is more than 25 pounds less than my heaviest.
  • See a great physical therapist. You need a good one, I went through 3 before I found the guy I still see semi-regularly. They will not only put you on the right routine, but also massage and help get knots out. I have spent a lot of time strengthening my core - Planks, side-planks, crunches/leg raises (not until your body is up to it though or you will just make it worse), press-ups for extension, and a lot of swimming... The pool makes my body feel so much better.
At the end of the day, lower back pain and nerve pain are some of the worst things to deal with, but with the right treatment, hopefully you can get through it.

Good luck!!

 
Sounds like a herniated disc in your back, most likely at the L5- S1 vertebrae. I had to deal with this for almost 18 months, and there's no easy fix. Some pain alleviation techniques include lying down with your feet elevated, doing stretches that will stretch out your back, and taking some pain medication. If it's not getting better, they can do cortisone injections, but more importantly is to get an MRI to determine the cause of the pain.

 
Like Fantasy curse suggested, your best long-term non-surgical option is core strengthening. See a physical therapist.

 
This flared up on Sunday and it is killing me. Whenever I go to stand up, a shooting pain goes down my right leg (from hip to knee). It is painful enough I stop moving. Once it subsides I can slowly start moving again and after a few steps it goes away until I sit down again. I've found a couple of stretches online, but they aren't really helping. I'm popping Advil like candy, but still no relief.

I am physically active - walking every day for 30-60mins, rollerblading 3x a week, and play softball. Team is in the semi-finals this Friday with a chance to repeat as league champs. I want to play, but this pain is killer every time I start moving. I heard exercise is the best thing, but the pain shoots down my leg every time I begin walking, running, moving.

Any ideas/suggestions from the FFA?
Suggestion 1: stop popping Advil like candy. Really not a good thing for your health.

Suggestion 2: tell us if you have any idea what brought the pain on in the first place/when it started. Sciatica's one of those things with dozens of causes, ranging from lifestyle, to simple "tweaks," to full blown treatment-mandating injuries.

Suggestion 3: ignore Kal El. There is absolutely no justification for making that kind of dire and specific injury diagnosis in the absence of tons more info diagnosed by a trained professional. I'm sure he meant well, and probably sees symptoms resembling some he had with the aforementioned injury, but it's really important to realize the symptoms you describe have loads of possible causes, and it can be very counterproductive to make that kind of sweeping diagnostic assumption.

Suggestion 4: if a little R&R and a couple days of light stretching and physical activity don't get you to normal, see your primary.

 
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see the doc and get the referrals. I was miserable for several weeks before getting to the spine center. Within a week or two of seeing them, L5-S1 herniation confirmed by MRI. Meds, PT and one round of injections that brought great relief in a matter of days.

Now I just have some minor discomfort at times and i'm holding off on even a second round of injections.

 
Ice pack on your lower lumbar for 20 minutes on and then off and then on do that for at least an hour or two while watching TV...legs elevated (on a recliner preferably with a pillow under them).

Do that for 24-48 hours. It will relieve the pain drastically.

You have an inflamed nerve and need to bring down the swelling. Then if you have a jetted bath (or not) fill your tub as hot as you can take it and pour 2 full cups of epsom salt into the bath. And soak for 15-20 minutes (remember after the nerve pain subsides. keep icing until that pain goes away)

I am a very active 44 year old, been playing baseball my entire life as well as tennis and golf. I still play on Sundays (like you) and also coach my sons travel team, play a round of golf every Thursday and a set or two of tennis once a week). So I am always doing something. I have been battling a bad lower disc problem (L5/6) as well since 31 years of age. I have never needed surgery. I do core training and watch my weight to take as much pressure as I can off my lower back. Every pound you lose is equal to taking 10 pounds of pressure off your lower back.

I also see a highly competent Chiropractor (many will laugh but for me it has worked wonders) once a month for a good adjustment of my neck and back (upper and lower lumbar) and have a monthly sports massage.

You can easily manage this just by taking the steps I described above. Your going to have some flair ups....can't really avoid those 100%. If none of this works you should get an MRI and see how bad the problem really is. Surgery should be the absolute last possible option imo. In most cases this can be holistically managed by eating right, core training, weight management and simple non medical methods, like ice and heat and good old common sense.

Also stretching daily is huge. I am not the most limber guy (never have been) my bane are my quads and hamstrings. They are tight. No matter how much I stretch they are just not the most limber muscles I have. But they directly affect your lower back big time. I rarely pull my hamstring or quad (have pulled my quad once in my life and it sucked) and tweaked my right hamstring a few times but nothing earth shattering. Been lucky in that regard. Same for my knees and shoulders and elbows....very lucky. But my back has been my bane and that is how I manage it.

So far so good.

Good luck man.

 
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Sounds like a herniated disc in your back, most likely at the L5- S1 vertebrae. I had to deal with this for almost 18 months, and there's no easy fix. Some pain alleviation techniques include lying down with your feet elevated, doing stretches that will stretch out your back, and taking some pain medication. If it's not getting better, they can do cortisone injections, but more importantly is to get an MRI to determine the cause of the pain.
Same thing with me, had microdisectomy performed since nothing else worked and now I am 100% better.

 
Sounds like a herniated disc in your back, most likely at the L5- S1 vertebrae. I had to deal with this for almost 18 months, and there's no easy fix. Some pain alleviation techniques include lying down with your feet elevated, doing stretches that will stretch out your back, and taking some pain medication. If it's not getting better, they can do cortisone injections, but more importantly is to get an MRI to determine the cause of the pain.
Same thing with me, had microdisectomy performed since nothing else worked and now I am 100% better.
15 years ago I had the same issue on and off for 2 years. The pain going down my leg was so unbearable I thought something was wrong with my leg. Turned out I had a herniated L-5 disk. Had surgery and the pain was gone right away and have not had an issue since.

 
There are lots of really good suggestions here. I have a herniated disc between L4 and L5. Had sciatica bouts in the beginning but a chiropractor (the third one) finally helped me greatly. I now have an adjustment religiously every 6 weeks...I never want that pain again. For temporary relief the icing suggestion mentioned works great as does stretching.

 
Thanks all. I've never felt this kind of pain before. It's the oddest thing, but I get a shooting pain right down my right leg every time I stand up. It lasts for a few steps and then dies down to a slow ache. It's still there. I try not to sit/stand in one position for too long right now. Reading the suggestions, I found some stretching exercises to help loosen it up. I'll try the icing tonight as well. I'm still holding out hope its not too severe. If it persists, I'll check out the doctor for help.

Been thinking of going to a chiropractor, but I keep hearing mixed reviews. Any Cincinnati FBGs know of a good one up around Mason/West Chester area?

 
Thanks all. I've never felt this kind of pain before. It's the oddest thing, but I get a shooting pain right down my right leg every time I stand up. It lasts for a few steps and then dies down to a slow ache. It's still there. I try not to sit/stand in one position for too long right now. Reading the suggestions, I found some stretching exercises to help loosen it up. I'll try the icing tonight as well. I'm still holding out hope its not too severe. If it persists, I'll check out the doctor for help.

Been thinking of going to a chiropractor, but I keep hearing mixed reviews. Any Cincinnati FBGs know of a good one up around Mason/West Chester area?
When your sitting a ton of pressure is put on the lower lumbar...so when you stand up you will unleash the build up and the nerve pain will shoot down your leg.

Icing will greatly reduce the inflamation that is directly causing your nerve to tell you....it's agitated. Finding a really good Chiro is probably the best thing you can do to help this problem and manage it without medication and surgery. Typically it will work for most. But for some the damage is far to great to be reversed and managed so they have no choice but to seek out a surgical solution. But with any surgery, nothing is guaranteed. And neither is chiropractic care.

Let me know how a few hours of the ice treatment helps and then the hot epsom salt bath once the nerve pain recedes. Remember whenever you first hurt or feel bad back pain or sciatica....ICE ICE ICE for 24-48. Never use heat first. And use some Advil but in small doses. Maybe just 2 a day for the first 48 hours. With ice that is all you will really need.

Also ease back onto stretching once the pain level is down to say a 3 or less. Also don't rush back to playing ball. Your back may not be ready to go 0-60 MPH even though you feel 100%. Then you will really throw it out. So be smart. I hate missing games as I am my teams captain but....whenever I have a strained back/episode (far more rare these days thanks to my routine). I take 2 full games off mandatory to make sure I don't rush back and knock myself out for the entire season. I learned that the hard way back in 2000 when I knew my back was not 100% but I felt like I could play just fine and boy did I make it a whole lot worse. Knocked me out for 2 months. I could not walk without pain for at least 4 weeks. It was crazy.

So take it slow so it does not become chronic.

 
Thanks all. I've never felt this kind of pain before. It's the oddest thing, but I get a shooting pain right down my right leg every time I stand up. It lasts for a few steps and then dies down to a slow ache. It's still there. I try not to sit/stand in one position for too long right now. Reading the suggestions, I found some stretching exercises to help loosen it up. I'll try the icing tonight as well. I'm still holding out hope its not too severe. If it persists, I'll check out the doctor for help.

Been thinking of going to a chiropractor, but I keep hearing mixed reviews. Any Cincinnati FBGs know of a good one up around Mason/West Chester area?
About 15 years ago I was working out and twisted my back strangely and felt a very similar pain. It was so bad I couldn't stand up straight. I hobbled into the chiropractor after a few days and left there feeling like a new man. I still go to the same office about once a year for to get cracked up. I was very impressed with how quickly I felt better.

I have heard mixed reviews too though, so your mileage may vary.

 
You have to remember that about 90% of herniated discs heal on their own... I'm personally a skeptic of chiro since it actually made me worse, but others swear by it.

 
The symptoms point toward a stuck sacroiliac joint causing muscles in the buttock to spasm pressing on the sciatic nerve. As a chiropractor, I treat these every day with alleviation of symptoms on average in 1-3 visits. However, as with all professions, there are different levels of competency among Doctors of Chiropractic since you are relying on the ability to diagnose joint, muscle, and nerve dysfunction and then treat appropriately. More individual skill is required vs. a pill. Ask around until the same name keeps coming up is the best advice I can give.

 
Thanks all. I've never felt this kind of pain before. It's the oddest thing, but I get a shooting pain right down my right leg every time I stand up. It lasts for a few steps and then dies down to a slow ache. It's still there. I try not to sit/stand in one position for too long right now. Reading the suggestions, I found some stretching exercises to help loosen it up. I'll try the icing tonight as well. I'm still holding out hope its not too severe. If it persists, I'll check out the doctor for help.

Been thinking of going to a chiropractor, but I keep hearing mixed reviews. Any Cincinnati FBGs know of a good one up around Mason/West Chester area?
I am still going through this myself...herniated disc L5-S1 left me with a significantly weaker leg than the other. Everything on here is exactly what you'll need to experience. Best starting advice is get an MRI to confirm the diagnosis. When I started out with this process, I had the same leg pain/stiffness as you. Started with a chiro who mentioned the frozen sacro joint, had some adjustments which helped a little but still had issues. It took 2 MRIs , an EMG, and a CT scan to find my herniated disc, then went to PT which is where I really noticed a difference. Primarily core strengthening like FC42 listed out, plus stretching daily has made a huge difference in my pain management. Now the pain is minor, some tingling in outer toes at times, but a lot more manageable.

I'm in your area and went to NovaCare for the PT. The chiro I saw retired and I no longer see one. I would get in front of a spinal specialist to get a diagnosis (my Sports Ortho doc missed the herniation) then work on PT as a first course of action. Surgery should be a last resort for now.

 
I went and saw my doctor yesterday as the pain continued to get worse. I felt (and looked) like an 85 year old man trapped in a 38 year old's body. I couldn't stand, walk, or sit without pain shooting down my right leg. Based on the doctor's diagnosis, I have Piriformis Syndrome (here's the link I found once I got home - sounds just like what I am feeling). This muscle sits on top of the Sciatic nerve, so the irritated muscle also irritates and puts pressure on the nerve. She provided me with some meds and a stretching routine to use (once the pain subsides). She told me that if the pain continues for more than 5 days, to let her know and she would look into referring me to a PT.

So now I'm on an anti-infalmmatory for the muscle, along with a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help me sleep and get through the day. Having the meds in my body for almost 24 hours, I now feel a little better. But the underlying ache/pain is still there. I also feel the knotted muscle when I sit/move. I'm glad it's not a herniated disc, or anything too severe. I still don't know what caused this to happen - just came out of the blue.

 
I went and saw my doctor yesterday as the pain continued to get worse. I felt (and looked) like an 85 year old man trapped in a 38 year old's body. I couldn't stand, walk, or sit without pain shooting down my right leg. Based on the doctor's diagnosis, I have Piriformis Syndrome (here's the link I found once I got home - sounds just like what I am feeling). This muscle sits on top of the Sciatic nerve, so the irritated muscle also irritates and puts pressure on the nerve. She provided me with some meds and a stretching routine to use (once the pain subsides). She told me that if the pain continues for more than 5 days, to let her know and she would look into referring me to a PT.

So now I'm on an anti-infalmmatory for the muscle, along with a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help me sleep and get through the day. Having the meds in my body for almost 24 hours, I now feel a little better. But the underlying ache/pain is still there. I also feel the knotted muscle when I sit/move. I'm glad it's not a herniated disc, or anything too severe. I still don't know what caused this to happen - just came out of the blue.
This is exactly what I've got in my left leg. Turns out it was directly related to carrying my wallet in my left rear pocket, especially while driving. I removed it when driving and now only have occasional flare-ups when I'm careless and forget.

 
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I went and saw my doctor yesterday as the pain continued to get worse. I felt (and looked) like an 85 year old man trapped in a 38 year old's body. I couldn't stand, walk, or sit without pain shooting down my right leg. Based on the doctor's diagnosis, I have Piriformis Syndrome (here's the link I found once I got home - sounds just like what I am feeling). This muscle sits on top of the Sciatic nerve, so the irritated muscle also irritates and puts pressure on the nerve. She provided me with some meds and a stretching routine to use (once the pain subsides). She told me that if the pain continues for more than 5 days, to let her know and she would look into referring me to a PT.

So now I'm on an anti-infalmmatory for the muscle, along with a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help me sleep and get through the day. Having the meds in my body for almost 24 hours, I now feel a little better. But the underlying ache/pain is still there. I also feel the knotted muscle when I sit/move. I'm glad it's not a herniated disc, or anything too severe. I still don't know what caused this to happen - just came out of the blue.
This sounds exactly like me. I was told the same thing about the Piriformis muscle. Apparently it is like 20% of the population have the nerve like we do and the other 80% don't have this issue.

I self-diagnosed that mine came from a combo of gaining weight and crappy posture sitting at my desk all day. I had a rotated hip which I didn't deal with and it weakened by back a great deal and then had an inflamed muscle and soon had the debilitating sciatica. It sucked. I ended up on Percoset and then finally had to get two injections to reduce the inflammation. I tried everything else first, chiro, massages, PT, even acupuncture, but nothing did the trick but the injections. I'm now trying to figure out how to get my hip to stop rotating without much luck. My chiropractor will put it back in, but it is back out a day later. I tried going to him twice a week to try to keep it in place, but my back got super agitated from that and I chose not to return.

My best advice is listen to your doctors to get rid of the pain and once its gone, lose some weight and strengthen your core.

 
I went and saw my doctor yesterday as the pain continued to get worse. I felt (and looked) like an 85 year old man trapped in a 38 year old's body. I couldn't stand, walk, or sit without pain shooting down my right leg. Based on the doctor's diagnosis, I have Piriformis Syndrome (here's the link I found once I got home - sounds just like what I am feeling). This muscle sits on top of the Sciatic nerve, so the irritated muscle also irritates and puts pressure on the nerve. She provided me with some meds and a stretching routine to use (once the pain subsides). She told me that if the pain continues for more than 5 days, to let her know and she would look into referring me to a PT.

So now I'm on an anti-infalmmatory for the muscle, along with a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help me sleep and get through the day. Having the meds in my body for almost 24 hours, I now feel a little better. But the underlying ache/pain is still there. I also feel the knotted muscle when I sit/move. I'm glad it's not a herniated disc, or anything too severe. I still don't know what caused this to happen - just came out of the blue.
L4-5 herniated disc patient here. :hey:

Piriformis Syndrome is usually brought on my some other injury. My fall and injury caused sciatica as my muscles spasmed to avoid the herniation, putting pressure on the sciatic nerve root. (see "Worst pain you ever felt" thread) Sure, tight glutes can contribute- and strengthening and improving flexibility will always help- but I wouldn't rule out any disc issues without an MRI...

Edited to add that I have NEVER been to a chiropractor...

Edited to add- and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 
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Peak - I reccommended Rolfing to you earlier in the thread but now that you are diagnosed I wanted to follow back up and let you know I think it would help you greatly. I had something similar and rolfing sessions changed my life. I've provided some more info below but it is basically structural integration work and superior to going to a physical therapist in my opinion. You will have to pay out of pocket though.



Rolfing
What is Rolfing?
Rolfing is a form of deep tissue massage named after Dr. Ida P. Rolf, an American biochemist who referred to her work as "structural integration." Dr. Rolf designed the system as a way to deeply manipulate and reorganize connective tissue and fascia. Her aim was to relieve patterns of physical misalignment through a series of sessions, each focusing on a different part of the body, using deep pressure and breath work. The ultimate goal along with resetting alignment patterns in the body, is to improve movement and posture, reduce stress and create an overall sense of wellbeing.

What conditions are best treated with Rolfing?
People seek Rolfing as a way to ease pain and chronic stress as well as to improve performance in their professional and daily activities. Because chronic stress often leads to tension in the upper back, neck and shoulders, Rolfing can help the body break these patterns that contribute to chronic discomfort. Athletes may also benefit from Rolfing's ability to promote muscular efficiency.

Studies have shown that those with neurological impairments such as carpal tunnel syndrome, piriformis syndrome and pronator syndrome can benefit from this structural realignment. Rolfing may be able to relax tissues contributing to jaw pain in a condition known as temporomandibular joint disorder, or TMJD. Asthmatics may also consider Rolfing as a means to break up restrictive patterns in nerves and muscles in the chest that limit full chest expansion. Rolfing can often effectively address structural problems that contribute to low back pain. It can be a beneficial treatment for posture problems, with studies showing effectiveness in the treatment of lordosis or curvature of the spine.

What should one expect on a visit to a practitioner of Rolfing?
A client should wear comfortable clothing that does not restrict movement. Plan to spend at least an hour each session - many practitioners request two hours. The most commonly known system of Rolfing is called the "Ten Series," which is broken up into three different steps. The first three sessions, typically referred to as "sleeve" sessions, are focused on loosening and rebalancing surface layers of connective tissue. Breathing techniques are suggested to enhance the quality of breath during the session.

Bodywork is typically first done on arms, chest and the abdominal wall, specifically focusing on the diaphragm. It then includes the back and neck as well as moving downward toward the upper legs and buttocks. The second and third sessions finish out the legs and focus on how the body - in context with the head, shoulders and hips - relates to itself in space. The next four, known as the "core" sessions, focus on the body from the head down to the pelvis and the deep tissue of the legs. The last three sessions are termed "integration" as the goal is to achieve balance, movement and coordination within the entire network of the body. Sessions are typically scheduled weekly, but can vary depending on the client and therapeutic goals. Often there is a short discussion following the treatment to determine outcomes and suggest a home program.

Are there any side effects or conditions where Rolfing should be avoided?
Soreness may be a side effect as well as mild pain during treatment. Pain is usually minor, and heat, ice and over-the-counter analgesics may be of short-term benefit. Hydration, before and after treatment, is recommended. It is also of extreme importance to let the practitioner know of any medical conditions you may have. Consult your physician first if you have a connective tissue disorder (such as lupus or scleroderma), are pregnant, or have a psychological disorder. Rolfing may not be recommended in these circumstances.

Extreme caution should be observed for those with cancer. The connective tissue is the protective barrier to the organs beneath it and Rolfing, being deep tissue work, may theoretically affect these tissues leading to a potential advancement of malignant cells. Also, anyone with an embolus or thrombus (blood clots) should not have deep tissue work as it may dislodge the clot. Individuals with high blood pressure, on blood thinners or with a know heart condition should consult with their medical team before undergoing Rolfing, or having any form of deep tissue work. Obviously, those with acute illnesses, infections or injuries should be cleared by a physician prior to having body work performed.

Is there a governing body that oversees or credentials practitioners in Rolfing?
The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration in Boulder, Colorado, is the governing body that certifies Rolfing practitioners in the United States. There are five other international institutes. A course of study up to a year and a half, or 600 to 700 hours (depending on prior certifications and education) is required to become certified in the Rolfing technique. One can then move on to advanced Rolfing, and receive certification in that as well. Trained Rolfers may designate themselves as a CR or CAR (Certified Rolfer or Certified Advanced Rolfer).

How does one get in touch with a practitioner of Rolfing?
The websites www.Rolf.org in the U.S. or www.Rolfing.org in Europe can provide the public with a list of certified practitioners in their respective areas.

Are there other therapies that might work well in conjunction with Rolfing?
When receiving a series of Rolfing sessions, it is generally not recommended to have other bodywork (including chiropractic and massage), so that one knows which specific intervention is actually beneficial. However, breathing exercises, relaxation techniques and energy work can certainly be done in conjunction with Rolfing. The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration promotes Rolfing in conjunction with yoga, Pilates and other low-impact exercises.
 
Good luck. I thought my issue was muscular because occasional spasms and etc were not uncommon for me prior to the sciatica and had scrips for flexiril and relafen worked well if i had a flare up. I temporarily felt better with the meds until I was taking so much flexeril that i was nodding off at my desk and still hated getting in/out of the car and driving even short distances.

I don't see how they can rule out a disc herniation without an MRI. (it even states that in your webMD link).

Getting the MRI doesn't change how it would be treated. It would still be NSAIDs or steroids, PT and possibly something for pain. If they see a herniation on the MRI, the muscle relaxer is useless and it would expedite injections on the path to better

 
Peak - I reccommended Rolfing to you earlier in the thread but now that you are diagnosed I wanted to follow back up and let you know I think it would help you greatly. I had something similar and rolfing sessions changed my life. I've provided some more info below but it is basically structural integration work and superior to going to a physical therapist in my opinion. You will have to pay out of pocket though.



Rolfing
What is Rolfing?

Rolfing is a form of deep tissue massage named after Dr. Ida P. Rolf, an American biochemist who referred to her work as "structural integration." Dr. Rolf designed the system as a way to deeply manipulate and reorganize connective tissue and fascia. Her aim was to relieve patterns of physical misalignment through a series of sessions, each focusing on a different part of the body, using deep pressure and breath work. The ultimate goal along with resetting alignment patterns in the body, is to improve movement and posture, reduce stress and create an overall sense of wellbeing.

What conditions are best treated with Rolfing?

People seek Rolfing as a way to ease pain and chronic stress as well as to improve performance in their professional and daily activities. Because chronic stress often leads to tension in the upper back, neck and shoulders, Rolfing can help the body break these patterns that contribute to chronic discomfort. Athletes may also benefit from Rolfing's ability to promote muscular efficiency.

Studies have shown that those with neurological impairments such as carpal tunnel syndrome, piriformis syndrome and pronator syndrome can benefit from this structural realignment. Rolfing may be able to relax tissues contributing to jaw pain in a condition known as temporomandibular joint disorder, or TMJD. Asthmatics may also consider Rolfing as a means to break up restrictive patterns in nerves and muscles in the chest that limit full chest expansion. Rolfing can often effectively address structural problems that contribute to low back pain. It can be a beneficial treatment for posture problems, with studies showing effectiveness in the treatment of lordosis or curvature of the spine.

What should one expect on a visit to a practitioner of Rolfing?

A client should wear comfortable clothing that does not restrict movement. Plan to spend at least an hour each session - many practitioners request two hours. The most commonly known system of Rolfing is called the "Ten Series," which is broken up into three different steps. The first three sessions, typically referred to as "sleeve" sessions, are focused on loosening and rebalancing surface layers of connective tissue. Breathing techniques are suggested to enhance the quality of breath during the session.

Bodywork is typically first done on arms, chest and the abdominal wall, specifically focusing on the diaphragm. It then includes the back and neck as well as moving downward toward the upper legs and buttocks. The second and third sessions finish out the legs and focus on how the body - in context with the head, shoulders and hips - relates to itself in space. The next four, known as the "core" sessions, focus on the body from the head down to the pelvis and the deep tissue of the legs. The last three sessions are termed "integration" as the goal is to achieve balance, movement and coordination within the entire network of the body. Sessions are typically scheduled weekly, but can vary depending on the client and therapeutic goals. Often there is a short discussion following the treatment to determine outcomes and suggest a home program.

Are there any side effects or conditions where Rolfing should be avoided?

Soreness may be a side effect as well as mild pain during treatment. Pain is usually minor, and heat, ice and over-the-counter analgesics may be of short-term benefit. Hydration, before and after treatment, is recommended. It is also of extreme importance to let the practitioner know of any medical conditions you may have. Consult your physician first if you have a connective tissue disorder (such as lupus or scleroderma), are pregnant, or have a psychological disorder. Rolfing may not be recommended in these circumstances.

Extreme caution should be observed for those with cancer. The connective tissue is the protective barrier to the organs beneath it and Rolfing, being deep tissue work, may theoretically affect these tissues leading to a potential advancement of malignant cells. Also, anyone with an embolus or thrombus (blood clots) should not have deep tissue work as it may dislodge the clot. Individuals with high blood pressure, on blood thinners or with a know heart condition should consult with their medical team before undergoing Rolfing, or having any form of deep tissue work. Obviously, those with acute illnesses, infections or injuries should be cleared by a physician prior to having body work performed.

Is there a governing body that oversees or credentials practitioners in Rolfing?

The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration in Boulder, Colorado, is the governing body that certifies Rolfing practitioners in the United States. There are five other international institutes. A course of study up to a year and a half, or 600 to 700 hours (depending on prior certifications and education) is required to become certified in the Rolfing technique. One can then move on to advanced Rolfing, and receive certification in that as well. Trained Rolfers may designate themselves as a CR or CAR (Certified Rolfer or Certified Advanced Rolfer).

How does one get in touch with a practitioner of Rolfing?

The websites www.Rolf.org in the U.S. or www.Rolfing.org in Europe can provide the public with a list of certified practitioners in their respective areas.

Are there other therapies that might work well in conjunction with Rolfing?

When receiving a series of Rolfing sessions, it is generally not recommended to have other bodywork (including chiropractic and massage), so that one knows which specific intervention is actually beneficial. However, breathing exercises, relaxation techniques and energy work can certainly be done in conjunction with Rolfing. The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration promotes Rolfing in conjunction with yoga, Pilates and other low-impact exercises.
I've looked at this....seems there is only one guy in town and he covers multiple areas. May give it a shot.

 
Sorry to hear man... I've had two surgeries. I played football for about 15 years and it has def left a mark on my body. I dealt with a severely herniated disc at L4/L5 for years. One of the surgeries I had was called a microdiscectomy, which is basically just removing a tiny piece of the disc pressing on the nerve, which then frees it. After I had this surgery, I was feeling relieved and then out of nowhere the disc reherniated. At that juncture I was left with the option to continue fighting through it or have a redo on the surgery. I elected to fight through. The pain was to the point where my right leg hurt so bad I could hardly walk. I'm an extremely active person, below is what I did and I am feeling like a whole new person. In all honesty it still flares up here and there, but nothing I can't handle and nothing close to how I was feeling in the past.

  • Weight loss, I'm between 210 and 215 now... That is more than 25 pounds less than my heaviest.
  • See a great physical therapist. You need a good one, I went through 3 before I found the guy I still see semi-regularly. They will not only put you on the right routine, but also massage and help get knots out. I have spent a lot of time strengthening my core - Planks, side-planks, crunches/leg raises (not until your body is up to it though or you will just make it worse), press-ups for extension, and a lot of swimming... The pool makes my body feel so much better.
At the end of the day, lower back pain and nerve pain are some of the worst things to deal with, but with the right treatment, hopefully you can get through it.Good luck!!
The P.T. part of this is key. Fund one that does all that and it helps a lot. Planks. Crunches, Massage, and ice are key. Good luck.
 
I went and saw my doctor yesterday as the pain continued to get worse. I felt (and looked) like an 85 year old man trapped in a 38 year old's body. I couldn't stand, walk, or sit without pain shooting down my right leg. Based on the doctor's diagnosis, I have Piriformis Syndrome (here's the link I found once I got home - sounds just like what I am feeling). This muscle sits on top of the Sciatic nerve, so the irritated muscle also irritates and puts pressure on the nerve. She provided me with some meds and a stretching routine to use (once the pain subsides). She told me that if the pain continues for more than 5 days, to let her know and she would look into referring me to a PT.

So now I'm on an anti-infalmmatory for the muscle, along with a muscle relaxer and pain meds to help me sleep and get through the day. Having the meds in my body for almost 24 hours, I now feel a little better. But the underlying ache/pain is still there. I also feel the knotted muscle when I sit/move. I'm glad it's not a herniated disc, or anything too severe. I still don't know what caused this to happen - just came out of the blue.
The rumor is true. It is all downhill post 40. You could have strained your back just sneezing, or sleeping the wrong way...or quite honestly stress can easily strain your back. Could have been a number of things.

So did she suggest ice at all? Great to hear it is just a really bad back strain. But did you have an MRI to confirm no disc problem? Pain pills and muscle relaxers will no doubt give relief....but not solve the problem. Her advice is pretty sound if indeed the diagnosis is correct. But wait till all the pain subsides before you start stretching...and start light or you can easily re aggravate the muscle. Take those hot epsom salt baths soon to loosen up and unwind the knot in your back muscles. Epsom salt is great for sprains. And treat yourself to a nice massage after your feeling a lot better.

I also would get an MRI anyway. Cover all the bases.

 
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Peak - I reccommended Rolfing to you earlier in the thread but now that you are diagnosed I wanted to follow back up and let you know I think it would help you greatly. I had something similar and rolfing sessions changed my life. I've provided some more info below but it is basically structural integration work and superior to going to a physical therapist in my opinion. You will have to pay out of pocket though.



Rolfing
What is Rolfing?

Rolfing is a form of deep tissue massage named after Dr. Ida P. Rolf, an American biochemist who referred to her work as "structural integration." Dr. Rolf designed the system as a way to deeply manipulate and reorganize connective tissue and fascia. Her aim was to relieve patterns of physical misalignment through a series of sessions, each focusing on a different part of the body, using deep pressure and breath work. The ultimate goal along with resetting alignment patterns in the body, is to improve movement and posture, reduce stress and create an overall sense of wellbeing.

What conditions are best treated with Rolfing?

People seek Rolfing as a way to ease pain and chronic stress as well as to improve performance in their professional and daily activities. Because chronic stress often leads to tension in the upper back, neck and shoulders, Rolfing can help the body break these patterns that contribute to chronic discomfort. Athletes may also benefit from Rolfing's ability to promote muscular efficiency.

Studies have shown that those with neurological impairments such as carpal tunnel syndrome, piriformis syndrome and pronator syndrome can benefit from this structural realignment. Rolfing may be able to relax tissues contributing to jaw pain in a condition known as temporomandibular joint disorder, or TMJD. Asthmatics may also consider Rolfing as a means to break up restrictive patterns in nerves and muscles in the chest that limit full chest expansion. Rolfing can often effectively address structural problems that contribute to low back pain. It can be a beneficial treatment for posture problems, with studies showing effectiveness in the treatment of lordosis or curvature of the spine.

What should one expect on a visit to a practitioner of Rolfing?

A client should wear comfortable clothing that does not restrict movement. Plan to spend at least an hour each session - many practitioners request two hours. The most commonly known system of Rolfing is called the "Ten Series," which is broken up into three different steps. The first three sessions, typically referred to as "sleeve" sessions, are focused on loosening and rebalancing surface layers of connective tissue. Breathing techniques are suggested to enhance the quality of breath during the session.

Bodywork is typically first done on arms, chest and the abdominal wall, specifically focusing on the diaphragm. It then includes the back and neck as well as moving downward toward the upper legs and buttocks. The second and third sessions finish out the legs and focus on how the body - in context with the head, shoulders and hips - relates to itself in space. The next four, known as the "core" sessions, focus on the body from the head down to the pelvis and the deep tissue of the legs. The last three sessions are termed "integration" as the goal is to achieve balance, movement and coordination within the entire network of the body. Sessions are typically scheduled weekly, but can vary depending on the client and therapeutic goals. Often there is a short discussion following the treatment to determine outcomes and suggest a home program.

Are there any side effects or conditions where Rolfing should be avoided?

Soreness may be a side effect as well as mild pain during treatment. Pain is usually minor, and heat, ice and over-the-counter analgesics may be of short-term benefit. Hydration, before and after treatment, is recommended. It is also of extreme importance to let the practitioner know of any medical conditions you may have. Consult your physician first if you have a connective tissue disorder (such as lupus or scleroderma), are pregnant, or have a psychological disorder. Rolfing may not be recommended in these circumstances.

Extreme caution should be observed for those with cancer. The connective tissue is the protective barrier to the organs beneath it and Rolfing, being deep tissue work, may theoretically affect these tissues leading to a potential advancement of malignant cells. Also, anyone with an embolus or thrombus (blood clots) should not have deep tissue work as it may dislodge the clot. Individuals with high blood pressure, on blood thinners or with a know heart condition should consult with their medical team before undergoing Rolfing, or having any form of deep tissue work. Obviously, those with acute illnesses, infections or injuries should be cleared by a physician prior to having body work performed.

Is there a governing body that oversees or credentials practitioners in Rolfing?

The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration in Boulder, Colorado, is the governing body that certifies Rolfing practitioners in the United States. There are five other international institutes. A course of study up to a year and a half, or 600 to 700 hours (depending on prior certifications and education) is required to become certified in the Rolfing technique. One can then move on to advanced Rolfing, and receive certification in that as well. Trained Rolfers may designate themselves as a CR or CAR (Certified Rolfer or Certified Advanced Rolfer).

How does one get in touch with a practitioner of Rolfing?

The websites www.Rolf.org in the U.S. or www.Rolfing.org in Europe can provide the public with a list of certified practitioners in their respective areas.

Are there other therapies that might work well in conjunction with Rolfing?

When receiving a series of Rolfing sessions, it is generally not recommended to have other bodywork (including chiropractic and massage), so that one knows which specific intervention is actually beneficial. However, breathing exercises, relaxation techniques and energy work can certainly be done in conjunction with Rolfing. The Rolf Institute of Structural Integration promotes Rolfing in conjunction with yoga, Pilates and other low-impact exercises.
One of my sisters married a Canadian who was an equine rolfer. :shock: No ####. It turns out the ******* also used her to gain US citizenship. She dumped his ### real fast.

 
Sorry to hear man... I've had two surgeries. I played football for about 15 years and it has def left a mark on my body. I dealt with a severely herniated disc at L4/L5 for years. One of the surgeries I had was called a microdiscectomy, which is basically just removing a tiny piece of the disc pressing on the nerve, which then frees it. After I had this surgery, I was feeling relieved and then out of nowhere the disc reherniated. At that juncture I was left with the option to continue fighting through it or have a redo on the surgery. I elected to fight through. The pain was to the point where my right leg hurt so bad I could hardly walk. I'm an extremely active person, below is what I did and I am feeling like a whole new person. In all honesty it still flares up here and there, but nothing I can't handle and nothing close to how I was feeling in the past.

  • Weight loss, I'm between 210 and 215 now... That is more than 25 pounds less than my heaviest.
  • See a great physical therapist. You need a good one, I went through 3 before I found the guy I still see semi-regularly. They will not only put you on the right routine, but also massage and help get knots out. I have spent a lot of time strengthening my core - Planks, side-planks, crunches/leg raises (not until your body is up to it though or you will just make it worse), press-ups for extension, and a lot of swimming... The pool makes my body feel so much better.
At the end of the day, lower back pain and nerve pain are some of the worst things to deal with, but with the right treatment, hopefully you can get through it.Good luck!!
The P.T. part of this is key. Fund one that does all that and it helps a lot. Planks. Crunches, Massage, and ice are key. Good luck.
Finding a good PT is tough especially a good one that accepts insurance.... If anyone in NY needs one, I have a great recommendation.

Once you find one, it will help. Patience is key too, you aren't just going to be better over night. I've been working out like an animal, dropped from 240ish to 210ish, and followed a routine religiously.

Also remember, these things work themselves out on their own within 6 months on over 90% of the people who suffer disc problems. If it has been over 6 months of consistent pain and you have tried everything, surgery may be needed.

 
So yeah, I am having problems with sciatica lately and it sucks. After a week of it hurting down my left leg, I went to the doctor and she gave me a 5-day prescription of prednisone. First day and I can already feel the soreness going away, which leads to the question: what are the odds the soreness just comes back after the five days of taking it are over? My goal is to get back to exercising regularly, losing a bit of weight (I need to get back down to 190; I'm at 210 now), strengthening my core, and swimming a lot. I just don't want to overdo it too soon and re-aggravate it. Thoughts?

 
It may help with the inflammation for a while but the root cause of it is still there. Will almost definitely come back.

Doctors don't know #### about that sort of thing. All they can do is give you medicine.

 
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Yeah, I know the root is still there, but if I can learn how to manage it, it won't come back with as much soreness as I recently had, no? Swimming and yoga are two things I have read will help a lot. I have a minor curve in my lower spine.

 

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