Seinfeld to Netflix - Not the story you think (1 Viewer)

[gump]

The Office is also on almost every night on Comedy Central.  Seinfeld is the one that’s become much harder to find, so this Netflix timing is good for me.

 

[skol asylum]

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but I believe NBC is possibly going to bring back the Office for new seasons on their streaming service named Peacock.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/movies/the-office-revival-news-cast/%3famp

 

[TheIronSheik]

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but I believe NBC is possibly going to bring back the Office for new seasons on their streaming service named Peacock.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/movies/the-office-revival-news-cast/%3famp

I'd love to see new episodes with the old cast (no way, I know), but I'm not sure just starting a new show and calling it The Office would make it good.  

 

[skol asylum]

I'd love to see new episodes with the old cast (no way, I know), but I'm not sure just starting a new show and calling it The Office would make it good.  

I'm sure the money would be there to make it happen. That's how you launch and get subscribers, especially if it's streaming only. CBS All Access tried to use a new Star trek series to attract subscribers. A show like the Office would be much more successful. I'm already looking to add Disney + to my Netflix, Hulu, and Prime subs. How many streaming services is too much? 

I'm also curious about the new HBO Max streaming service. I wonder if it will have all the current HBO shows and movies too. If so probably a no brainer to drop HBO from my DirecTV package and replace with that.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I'm sure the money would be there to make it happen. That's how you launch and get subscribers, especially if it's streaming only. CBS All Access tried to use a new Star trek series to attract subscribers. A show like the Office would be much more successful. I'm already looking to add Disney + to my Netflix, Hulu, and Prime subs. How many streaming services is too much? 

I'm also curious about the new HBO Max streaming service. I wonder if it will have all the current HBO shows and movies too. If so probably a no brainer to drop HBO from my DirecTV package and replace with that.

NBC already said it would be a reboot with new characters but would have "threads" to the old show.  Not sure what that means, but if I had to classify it, I'd say: Not great, not terrible.

I would probably think it could work even without Michael, Jim and Pam.  The others don't have much going on.  

 

[belljr]

I'm almost at the point where I won't watch anything because I'm not paying for all this

 

[GroveDiesel]

NBC already said it would be a reboot with new characters but would have "threads" to the old show.  Not sure what that means, but if I had to classify it, I'd say: Not great, not terrible.

I would probably think it could work even without Michael, Jim and Pam.  The others don't have much going on.  

I feel like this would be like the last season of Scrubs where they kept the name of the show but everything else was pretty much different and it was horrible.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I'm almost at the point where I won't watch anything because I'm not paying for all this

The splintering of content is what makes me resent it the most & makes it all feel like when cable got out of hand or when we paid $89.95 for VHS movies. I guess we have apps making folks used to fees to thank for that. We're likely ever on a hamster's bicycle of chaos-order-chaos with media now. A great, centralizing innovation will come along and make us happy to be consumers once more til the corporates beat the horse dead again and sell us head, belly & butt guts at reasonable prices.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I'm almost at the point where I won't watch anything because I'm not paying for all this

I kind of feel like everyone complaining about how cable bundled everything together was the devil we knew.  And now that everything is heading to a dozen different streaming services, we're going to miss the days of things being bundled.

ETA: Eventually, there will be a service that bundles all of the streaming services together and it will only cost $200 a month and everyone will be so happy. 

 

[Bull Dozier]

I kind of feel like everyone complaining about how cable bundled everything together was the devil we knew.  And now that everything is heading to a dozen different streaming services, we're going to miss the days of things being bundled.

ETA: Eventually, there will be a service that bundles all of the streaming services together and it will only cost $200 a month and everyone will be so happy. 

I don't get the complaints personally.  I know I'm overpaying but my DirecTV package is about $100 right now for three TVs.  Once Disney+ comes out I'll be dropping DTV, and will have Disney, ESPN+, Hulu ($14 bundle), Netflix ($14), Amazon Prime (not counting since I would have Amazon Prime even without the TV package), and potentially upgrade to Hulu w live TV ($45 more), all for less than DTV, and I have Netflix and Prime already so the difference is really even bigger.  If some other streaming option comes in that I think I need, I can still add on one or two more for more savings than DTV.  And I'm not limited to the three TVs in my house + one mobile device.  

 

[TheIronSheik]

I don't get the complaints personally.  I know I'm overpaying but my DirecTV package is about $100 right now for three TVs.  Once Disney+ comes out I'll be dropping DTV, and will have Disney, ESPN+, Hulu ($14 bundle), Netflix ($14), Amazon Prime (not counting since I would have Amazon Prime even without the TV package), and potentially upgrade to Hulu w live TV ($45 more), all for less than DTV, and I have Netflix and Prime already so the difference is really even bigger.  If some other streaming option comes in that I think I need, I can still add on one or two more for more savings than DTV.  And I'm not limited to the three TVs in my house + one mobile device.  

That's based off of current streaming services.  But everyone wants to put out their own service.  So, yes, currently it's cheaper.  But my concern is that eventually there will be 15 streaming services out there that all have 1 or 2 shows that sound really good.  And each service will charge $15 a month.  So 15 times 15 is... carry the 2...  well, let's just say it's well over $15 a month for all 15 of them.  

 

[Bull Dozier]

That's based off of current streaming services.  But everyone wants to put out their own service.  So, yes, currently it's cheaper.  But my concern is that eventually there will be 15 streaming services out there that all have 1 or 2 shows that sound really good.  And each service will charge $15 a month.  So 15 times 15 is... carry the 2...  well, let's just say it's well over $15 a month for all 15 of them.  

I get that but I've been complaining for a long time of having to pay for channels I don't want AND having to watch commercials.  Between Neflix and Amazon Prime already I have more TV than I want.  Would I have watched Game of Thrones had I had HBO?  Sure, but guess what, and no time over the last five years have I sat down in the evening to kill and hour and thought "wow, there is nothing in my queue to watch."  TV to me is a relaxing time killer, not a bucket list of things to accomplish.  Having two or three streaming services to watch provides more content than anyone could ever possibly watch.

 

[belljr]

I don't get the complaints personally.  I know I'm overpaying but my DirecTV package is about $100 right now for three TVs.  Once Disney+ comes out I'll be dropping DTV, and will have Disney, ESPN+, Hulu ($14 bundle), Netflix ($14), Amazon Prime (not counting since I would have Amazon Prime even without the TV package), and potentially upgrade to Hulu w live TV ($45 more), all for less than DTV, and I have Netflix and Prime already so the difference is really even bigger.  If some other streaming option comes in that I think I need, I can still add on one or two more for more savings than DTV.  And I'm not limited to the three TVs in my house + one mobile device.  

guess it depends on service.

I can stream comcast to all my devices on 5 tvs and even take recorded shows with me

And I log into 1 place and can see all my stuff. (even can see Netflix and Prime without opening their app)

 

[Black Box]

Cycling streaming services will be the future. I plan to carry one or two at a time, and just cycle them in and out.

 

[Bull Dozier]

guess it depends on service.

I can stream comcast to all my devices on 5 tvs and even take recorded shows with me

And I log into 1 place and can see all my stuff. (even can see Netflix and Prime without opening their app)

I'm sure individual preferences are going to matter.  It doesn't bother me to have different apps to log in to.

Even if Comcast had a superior interface, I'm hesitant to give them more of my money.  I do use them for internet, but only because I have no other choice for their speed (I noticed my bill jump triple one month.  Looked at it and they signed me up for phone service, and then there were $100+ in international calls on my bill.  Had to spend over an hour with customer service straightening it out.  After all was said and done, the billing was corrected, but I got no "thank you" discount or anything.  Then this same thing happened TWICE more over the next six months.  The third time I spent even more time trying to get to someone who actually cared that it appeared Comcast was either scamming me with fake billing, or not caring that someone else was using them to run up charges).

 

[TheIronSheik]

I get that but I've been complaining for a long time of having to pay for channels I don't want AND having to watch commercials.  Between Neflix and Amazon Prime already I have more TV than I want.  Would I have watched Game of Thrones had I had HBO?  Sure, but guess what, and no time over the last five years have I sat down in the evening to kill and hour and thought "wow, there is nothing in my queue to watch."  TV to me is a relaxing time killer, not a bucket list of things to accomplish.  Having two or three streaming services to watch provides more content than anyone could ever possibly watch.

I think the days of streaming services releasing all of their episodes at once may be coming to an end.  It takes them 18 months to make 8 episodes and people watch them all on the day they come out.  And then they immediately ask when the next season will be available.  I think we'll eventually see streaming services start releasing things weekly, like regular television.  

 

[Bull Dozier]

I think the days of streaming services releasing all of their episodes at once may be coming to an end.  It takes them 18 months to make 8 episodes and people watch them all on the day they come out.  And then they immediately ask when the next season will be available.  I think we'll eventually see streaming services start releasing things weekly, like regular television.  

Is this responsive to my comment?  I don't think it matters (at least to me) if they change the drop schedule.  I think it is likely as well, as I do think people will stream hop like Black Box indicated and they'll need a reason to keep subscribers month to month.  The only other alternative is to have big series drop on a monthly schedule so there is something new each month.

But to me, regardless of if they drop at the same time or not, I don't watch a whole series in a day (I don't have time for that).  

 

[TheIronSheik]

Is this responsive to my comment?  I don't think it matters (at least to me) if they change the drop schedule.  I think it is likely as well, as I do think people will stream hop like Black Box indicated and they'll need a reason to keep subscribers month to month.  The only other alternative is to have big series drop on a monthly schedule so there is something new each month.

But to me, regardless of if they drop at the same time or not, I don't watch a whole series in a day (I don't have time for that).  

It wasn't really a counterpoint, GB.  I was just adding more to the conversation.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Is this responsive to my comment?  I don't think it matters (at least to me) if they change the drop schedule.  I think it is likely as well, as I do think people will stream hop like Black Box indicated and they'll need a reason to keep subscribers month to month.  The only other alternative is to have big series drop on a monthly schedule so there is something new each month.

But to me, regardless of if they drop at the same time or not, I don't watch a whole series in a day (I don't have time for that).  

It wasn't really a counterpoint, GB.  I was just adding more to the conversation.

But I will add, that I believe a couple of the new streaming services are going to have commercials in them.  Not sure how, but I thought NBC was one of the ones toying with that idea.

 

[lardonastick]

The splintering of content is what makes me resent it the most & makes it all feel like when cable got out of hand or when we paid $89.95 for VHS movies. I guess we have apps making folks used to fees to thank for that. We're likely ever on a hamster's bicycle of chaos-order-chaos with media now. A great, centralizing innovation will come along and make us happy to be consumers once more til the corporates beat the horse dead again and sell us head, belly & butt guts at reasonable prices.

mmmm butt guts

 

[belljr]

I'm sure individual preferences are going to matter.  It doesn't bother me to have different apps to log in to.

Even if Comcast had a superior interface, I'm hesitant to give them more of my money.  I do use them for internet, but only because I have no other choice for their speed (I noticed my bill jump triple one month.  Looked at it and they signed me up for phone service, and then there were $100+ in international calls on my bill.  Had to spend over an hour with customer service straightening it out.  After all was said and done, the billing was corrected, but I got no "thank you" discount or anything.  Then this same thing happened TWICE more over the next six months.  The third time I spent even more time trying to get to someone who actually cared that it appeared Comcast was either scamming me with fake billing, or not caring that someone else was using them to run up charges).

No arguments that Comcast is overpriced the devil

But I enjoy their product for now

 

[Bull Dozier]

It wasn't really a counterpoint, GB.  I was just adding more to the conversation.

OK, cool.  Sometimes I miss stuff and am not too bright, so I wasn't sure if I was missing a point being made or otherwise.

But I will add, that I believe a couple of the new streaming services are going to have commercials in them.  Not sure how, but I thought NBC was one of the ones toying with that idea.

That would piss me off.  I can take a 30 second break here and there, and introductory commercials.  But it I had to sit through 3 minute commercial breaks for a paid app, I'd skip that pretty quick.

NBC is not on my list.  Unlike some other lemmings I know (my two sons, I'm looking at you) I don't need 24/7 access to the Office at any cost.  I haven't looked at their potential lineups to see if there is anything that attracts me.

 

[TheIronSheik]

OK, cool.  Sometimes I miss stuff and am not too bright, so I wasn't sure if I was missing a point being made or otherwise.

That would piss me off.  I can take a 30 second break here and there, and introductory commercials.  But it I had to sit through 3 minute commercial breaks for a paid app, I'd skip that pretty quick.

NBC is not on my list.  Unlike some other lemmings I know (my two sons, I'm looking at you) I don't need 24/7 access to the Office at any cost.  I haven't looked at their potential lineups to see if there is anything that attracts me.

Yeah, I'm not sure they know their setup yet, either.  Sounds like they're almost spitballing.  But I had heard a rumor that they were thinking about putting in commercials and that way they'd be able to offer a discounted price.  But what is a discounted price?  It almost sounded like they put it out there to see if there'd be backlash.  Read the temperature of the room, in a sense.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Yeah, I'm not sure they know their setup yet, either.  Sounds like they're almost spitballing.  But I had heard a rumor that they were thinking about putting in commercials and that way they'd be able to offer a discounted price.  But what is a discounted price?  It almost sounded like they put it out there to see if there'd be backlash.  Read the temperature of the room, in a sense.

I can see that.

This reminds me of, and is taking me way off the point of this thread, but I'll digress anyway, the most annoying commercial set up is DirecTV on demand.  I'm catching up on Yellowstone, so we watch those on demand.  There are commercial breaks in the middle.  There are only three commercials per break so it isn't too bad, but the annoying thins is there are only 5 different commercials total, and two are just different commercials for the same TV show (The Hills).  They rotate, but it is a constant loop.  At least once per episode there will be a break where both Hills commercials show in the same break.  So annoying.

 

[wikkidpissah]

is somebody gonna carry the ball on live TV? ok to shop content, but i'm not piecemealing news/sports too

 

[TheIronSheik]

This does seem like the logical step for the cord-cutters. With the back catalog of each services Original Series available for a long, long time, I could see more people having a Netflix month, then a Hulu Month, then an Amazon month (or, more likely, 3-month quarters). 

Parents with young kids will keep Disney all the time and then swap out an additional service, binge everything it has in 3 months, then move on to the next.

I think this will be another reason that streaming companies start to stagger their episode releases.  If Stranger Things comes out, I can subscribe for one month, watch them all, then cancel.  Now, I could wait until they are all out to sign up, but then I'd risk spoilers, so there would be a large amount of people who would stay signed up for the entirety of the run.