Selling a dynasty team to highest bidder. (1 Viewer)

[King of the Wolfies]

If you have a really good team but for whatever reason cannot play next year but have already paid the fees for next year, do you have the right to come to a FF site and auction your team off? Or must all teams be returned to the league for reassignment? We have a team with Brady, Moss and SJax and plenty of decent talent elsewhere whose owner may not return next year. I've never heard of a owner doing it because most people don't leave loaded teams. But this would be the team to do it with since it'll be good for 2-3 more years. Would it be ethical? Or do leagues in reality "own" all the franchises and have the right to pick the owners?

Figured this might be more fun to debate than more Indy/Pats garbage.

 

[jeter23]

Our league has rules that require any new owners to be sought by the commish and approved by the owners. That pretty much eliminates the possibility of someone selling their team. I do know several who have done it in other leagues though. As long as there are no rules against it, I don't see a problem.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I did the same thing with a dynasty baseball team a few years back. I went to the league first, and explained that I wanted to sell team, if I could. I pointed out that anyone who was willing to "buy" the team would probably be a decent owner (i.e. active). We ultimately agreed that the league would get final approval over any new owner, but the league would review any potential "buyers" before looking to actively fill the league opening.

Sold the team for $200, and the league approved the buyer.

 

[fsufan]

as a commsih of 2 dynasty leagues I would not allow this. If an owner had already paid for next year and decided to not play, I would refund his $ and find a new owner myself.

 

[Londo]

In both of my dynasty leagues, we have a waiting list to get in. While we don't have it expressly written anywhere, it is assumed that when an owner leaves, the next person on the list takes over his team.

In theory, I don't have a problem with selling your franchise.

 

[Ned]

as a commsih of 2 dynasty leagues I would not allow this. If an owner had already paid for next year and decided to not play, I would refund his $ and find a new owner myself.

why not? i actually think the idea of someone buying a team is better than just finding someone for free. If someone is going to fork up some cash to own a team, i'd be willing to bet they're a serious owner that will make the league better.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I saw a league the other day selling 2 franchises to the highest bidder. Both teams brought less than half the buyin for the other teams. i wondered whether those owners would get a prorated share if they won it all.

I've been thinking that a league might be fun if it started with 12 franchises and was run more like the NFL. Independent commish, and if wanted to sell your franchise, you'd need 75% approval from the other owners, a rules committee, etc.

 

[MOAT]

as a commsih of 2 dynasty leagues I would not allow this. If an owner had already paid for next year and decided to not play, I would refund his $ and find a new owner myself.

why not? i actually think the idea of someone buying a team is better than just finding someone for free. If someone is going to fork up some cash to own a team, i'd be willing to bet they're a serious owner that will make the league better.

I would run it past the commish/owners first. If you don't you may sell the team, have the new owner rejected by the other owners and comes back to you for a refund. As in all things, be above board.You SHOULD expect them to say that you can sell the team for whatever you can get as long as the new owner is approved. It is this way in the NFL and nearly any other franchise system, right? You can't just buy an NFL team because you have money. You have to be approved.At the very least they should refund your prepaid entry fees.

 

[PMENFAN]

If you have a really good team but for whatever reason cannot play next year but have already paid the fees for next year, do you have the right to come to a FF site and auction your team off? Or must all teams be returned to the league for reassignment? We have a team with Brady, Moss and SJax and plenty of decent talent elsewhere whose owner may not return next year. I've never heard of a owner doing it because most people don't leave loaded teams. But this would be the team to do it with since it'll be good for 2-3 more years. Would it be ethical? Or do leagues in reality "own" all the franchises and have the right to pick the owners?Figured this might be more fun to debate than more Indy/Pats garbage.

Interesting question. If it's not covered in the rules, it's wide open. I think it would depend on the league. Are you a group of work/personal associates? Or, an internet league with a passing familiarity with each other? IN the former, I think it goes back to the league, unless they're fine w/ opening it up. In the latter, I think selling it outright is your right.

 

[Wu-banger]

An owner willing to bid on an already existing team shows that they are very interested in being a member of the league and managing the team.

As long as the new owner was approved by the Commision and league there should be no issue with it.

An owner builds the team, manages it, and is an active participant in the league .. he should have the right to sell his team if the situation dictates it.

I was selling my team (sig.) due to needing another owner in the league ASAP.

The vacant team was so bad that we really had a hard time finding someone willing to take over it. I figured if I could sell my team and then take over the horrible team it would be good for the league.

We finally found some one willing to take over the bad team (and he is doing a nice job rebuilding them fwiw)...... my teams bids were over $300 had I sold it.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

An owner willing to bid on an already existing team shows that they are very interested in being a member of the league and managing the team.As long as the new owner was approved by the Commision and league there should be no issue with it.An owner builds the team, manages it, and is an active participant in the league .. he should have the right to sell his team if the situation dictates it.I was selling my team (sig.) due to needing another owner in the league ASAP. The vacant team was so bad that we really had a hard time finding someone willing to take over it. I figured if I could sell my team and then take over the horrible team it would be good for the league. We finally found some one willing to take over the bad team (and he is doing a nice job rebuilding them fwiw)...... my teams bids were over $300 had I sold it.

I could see that happening next year. I'm guessing 2 teams will need new owners in addition to the new owner we already got this year. Its hard to find someone willing to take a horrible team. if we need 2 owners next year, i think they both should be auctioned off and with one team proably going for more and the other less than the yearly fee, combine both winning bids and throw it all into the pot.

 

[Thorpe]

If you can give a team to someone, then you should be able to sell the team to him. If the league objects to selling the team, then you could always give the team, and in a separate transaction take the money for it.

 

[bonesman]

Does Jerry Jones have to ask Goodell if he wants to sell the Cowboys to say, Mark Cuban?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Does Jerry Jones have to ask Goodell if he wants to sell the Cowboys to say, Mark Cuban?

Yes?!?

 

[Christo]

If you have a really good team but for whatever reason cannot play next year but have already paid the fees for next year, do you have the right to come to a FF site and auction your team off? Or must all teams be returned to the league for reassignment? We have a team with Brady, Moss and SJax and plenty of decent talent elsewhere whose owner may not return next year. I've never heard of a owner doing it because most people don't leave loaded teams. But this would be the team to do it with since it'll be good for 2-3 more years. Would it be ethical? Or do leagues in reality "own" all the franchises and have the right to pick the owners?Figured this might be more fun to debate than more Indy/Pats garbage.

I would think that the remaining owners, rather than the departing owner, should be the ones to decide who actually gets the team and what the new owner has to do to buy into the league.Besides, who would want to jump into an ongoing dynasty league with a strong team? Isn't part of the fun of a dynasty league knowing that you built the team?

 

[Paddy O'Seanessy]

The only thing in the Constitution that may apply is that all rights not granted the government are held by the people. It could be argued that he is more people than the leagues is. Perhaps your state constitution would be more definitive.

Of course, that you ask the question makes me wonder if someones rights is really a concern of yours.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

The only thing in the Constitution that may apply is that all rights not granted the government are held by the people. It could be argued that he is more people than the leagues is. Perhaps your state constitution would be more definitive.Of course, that you ask the question makes me wonder if someones rights is really a concern of yours.

Is this schtick? A fantasy football league is not a nation nor a state, nor is it a representative republic. What "rights" do you think someone has in a fantasy league?A fantasy football league is an exclusive club, and the club should decide who gets to be a member. They can discriminate based on whatever criteria they want. So if a new owner is a tool or doesn't mesh well with the league, or the league wants only good friends in the league...that's reason enough to not allow a sale. I will say that a person who pays money to purchase a team might be more active...but they might also have a lot of money and not really care about the team once the novelty of owning it wears off. An existing owner cannot sell the ability to be in the league. That's for the league to decide.

 

[thayman]

Does Jerry Jones have to ask Goodell if he wants to sell the Cowboys to say, Mark Cuban?

Yes, new owners have to be approved by the commish and the rest of the league IIRC.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

 

[thayman]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

 

[thayman]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

Well you are quite the tool aren't you? We have a rookie draft every year, it's fun only 4 rounds but it starts the season off with lots of trades and talks. Just a bunch of friends hanging out at a bar talking FF.It is understandable that you don't care about your leaguemates. Most Yahoo leagues are like that. However when you start playing for some big money it helps to know that you have a group of good competent owners.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

Well you are quite the tool aren't you? We have a rookie draft every year, it's fun only 4 rounds but it starts the season off with lots of trades and talks. Just a bunch of friends hanging out at a bar talking FF.It is understandable that you don't care about your leaguemates. Most Yahoo leagues are like that. However when you start playing for some big money it helps to know that you have a group of good competent owners.

I just question why a group of friends would even make this an issue (selling a team for profit)?I play for big $$. As long as everyone pays (which they do or they don't draft), I could give a crap less about them. Big $$ = no trades + $$ for waiver guys. I long ago quit paying big $$ for leagues to pay for the stupidity of others in trades.

 

[thayman]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

Well you are quite the tool aren't you? We have a rookie draft every year, it's fun only 4 rounds but it starts the season off with lots of trades and talks. Just a bunch of friends hanging out at a bar talking FF.It is understandable that you don't care about your leaguemates. Most Yahoo leagues are like that. However when you start playing for some big money it helps to know that you have a group of good competent owners.

I just question why a group of friends would even make this an issue (selling a team for profit)?I play for big $$. As long as everyone pays (which they do or they don't draft), I could give a crap less about them. Big $$ = no trades + $$ for waiver guys. I long ago quit paying big $$ for leagues to pay for the stupidity of others in trades.

You do understand that I'm not the OP right??Personally I don't care if someone sells their team off. We seem to differ on what type of owner we like in leagues. I prefer active owners that stay on top of their team.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

Well you are quite the tool aren't you? We have a rookie draft every year, it's fun only 4 rounds but it starts the season off with lots of trades and talks. Just a bunch of friends hanging out at a bar talking FF.It is understandable that you don't care about your leaguemates. Most Yahoo leagues are like that. However when you start playing for some big money it helps to know that you have a group of good competent owners.

I just question why a group of friends would even make this an issue (selling a team for profit)?I play for big $$. As long as everyone pays (which they do or they don't draft), I could give a crap less about them. Big $$ = no trades + $$ for waiver guys. I long ago quit paying big $$ for leagues to pay for the stupidity of others in trades.

You do understand that I'm not the OP right??Personally I don't care if someone sells their team off. We seem to differ on what type of owner we like in leagues. I prefer active owners that stay on top of their team.

I don't care what type of owners are in there. Money spends the same. I leave those issues up to the Commissioner.-----------But anyways, it's easy to sell a team w/o anyone knowing. Majority of leagues are online. It's just funny to see people all up in arms over this.If I can profit by selling my dynasty team, I will. And you'll probably never know until I'm done spending the money

 

[NatronIsMean]

No WAY. It is the league and commissioner's job to find a good replacement owner. If you leave a league, you don't "own rights" to the team you had as you never "bought the rights". GMAFB. If I'm commish, you don't even have much of a say in who gets your team. League vote at best.

 

[thayman]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

Well you are quite the tool aren't you? We have a rookie draft every year, it's fun only 4 rounds but it starts the season off with lots of trades and talks. Just a bunch of friends hanging out at a bar talking FF.It is understandable that you don't care about your leaguemates. Most Yahoo leagues are like that. However when you start playing for some big money it helps to know that you have a group of good competent owners.

I just question why a group of friends would even make this an issue (selling a team for profit)?I play for big $$. As long as everyone pays (which they do or they don't draft), I could give a crap less about them. Big $$ = no trades + $$ for waiver guys. I long ago quit paying big $$ for leagues to pay for the stupidity of others in trades.

You do understand that I'm not the OP right??Personally I don't care if someone sells their team off. We seem to differ on what type of owner we like in leagues. I prefer active owners that stay on top of their team.

I don't care what type of owners are in there. Money spends the same. I leave those issues up to the Commissioner.

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But anyways, it's easy to sell a team w/o anyone knowing. Majority of leagues are online. It's just funny to see people all up in arms over this.

If I can profit by selling my dynasty team, I will. And you'll probably never know until I'm done spending the money

Well I can't disagree with you there.

 

[ThePittbully]

So anybody wanna buy mine?

 

[Christo]

So anybody wanna buy mine?

$0.99

 

[BaBastage]

(Sigh.) Which is more important in your league: the money, or the fun?

If it's the money, and your league has no rules prohibiting it, then it should be allowed.

If your league is about friends and camaraderie and the money just makes it sweeter, then no way. Go find an owner that you *want* to be part of your league.

Myself : It's about the fun and camaraderie. I have no desire to play against guys where it's all about the money. Sure, the money makes it competitive, but it's still about the fun first.

 

[NatronIsMean]

(Sigh.) Which is more important in your league: the money, or the fun?If it's the money, and your league has no rules prohibiting it, then it should be allowed.If your league is about friends and camaraderie and the money just makes it sweeter, then no way. Go find an owner that you *want* to be part of your league.Myself : It's about the fun and camaraderie. I have no desire to play against guys where it's all about the money. Sure, the money makes it competitive, but it's still about the fun first.

Bingo - Well said. Chances are, the guy that would pay the most would end up being a dbag.

 

[Londo]

LMAO

Ebay listing for fantasy football team

Ok, not sure why the link won't work, but type "fantasy football team" into eBay...The entry for "Lousy Fantasy Football Team" is pretty funny.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

gotta love that the team costs 99 cents but shipping is $10k.....LOL

 

[fsufan]

as a commsih of 2 dynasty leagues I would not allow this. If an owner had already paid for next year and decided to not play, I would refund his $ and find a new owner myself.

why not? i actually think the idea of someone buying a team is better than just finding someone for free. If someone is going to fork up some cash to own a team, i'd be willing to bet they're a serious owner that will make the league better.

i would find a new owner that would be willing to pay the league fee, not over pay.

 

[fsufan]

No WAY. It is the league and commissioner's job to find a good replacement owner. If you leave a league, you don't "own rights" to the team you had as you never "bought the rights". GMAFB. If I'm commish, you don't even have much of a say in who gets your team. League vote at best.

someone that gets it. your fee pays for the team for that YEAR not forever

 

[fsufan]

LOL I find all this talk of "league acceptance" humorous. You do realize that it's very easy to sell a team for a nice profit, and not let anyone else in the league know that a change in ownership has happened?

In my league it would be very hard since we have a live draft and see each other every day.

On the whole, most leagues aren't amongst friends (or even know each other). Most leaguemates I could really give two ####s about in all reality. If you see everybody every day, why is this even an issue? And why would you have a live draft for a dynasty league? Perhaps you mean keeper league? Or do your leaguemates really like taking guys like Mike Hass in Round 7 of a rookie draft that much?

both of my dynasty leagues have live drafts. it is about friend getting together and have a good time.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

No WAY. It is the league and commissioner's job to find a good replacement owner. If you leave a league, you don't "own rights" to the team you had as you never "bought the rights". GMAFB. If I'm commish, you don't even have much of a say in who gets your team. League vote at best.

someone that gets it. your fee pays for the team for that YEAR not forever

dyanasty is slightly different than redrafts. i cannot understand why anyone would buy a redraft team...LOLWhat if you've already paid for the year? Do you get to sell the team?My personal opinion is that teams belong to the league, and that no owner should come in without a "sponsor". But I love the debating on the topic