Seneca Wallace Ranking (1 Viewer)

[HULLOBUDMAN]

1) 2nd NFL start

2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)

3) Darrell Jackson is questionable

I don't get the ranking on this one.

What am I missing?

 

[tppt]

they really like him this week

 

[TheWick]

I'm with you on this one...I just traded him for Garrard and am happy about it. Raiders have the #1 pass D in the league. I can't see this going well.

 

[Real Man of Genius]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

I agree. Too high. I am starting Alex Smith over him without a second thought.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I am starting Favre over him as I think Oakland's pass defense is very underrated. It is not just because teams are beating them. Big Ben was the first to put up yards against them last week, but he also had four picks.

= I'm avoiding this one.

 

[Warhogs]

I can't speak for others but this is my gut feeling.

1. Nobody respects the Oakland pass D despite their good showing.

2. Seattle has not shown much ability to run the football so far.

My gut feeling is that Wallace plays pretty well and puts up OK QB numbers this week.

 

[qimqam]

I'm with you on this one...I just traded him for Garrard and am happy about it. Raiders have the #1 pass D in the league. I can't see this going well.

Your happy about that ... You traded the Seahawks QB for the next 3-5 weeks for the Jags QB this week and you like it?

 

[TheWick]

Schedule

Ten at Jax

Hou at Jax

NYG at Jax

week 12 = Pennington vs. HOU

Seattle's schedule is also nice but I also have Leftwich and think Garrard is a better known commodity at this point. Perhaps I will pay for it. But I like Garrard better the next 2 weeks and Hasselbeck could be back for week 11.

 

[joffer]

3) Darrell Jackson is questionable

he's actually probable, but i agree Wallace is ranked too high. worth noting is if you look at the points projected, #10 thru #15 are essentially a tie, separated only by tenths of a point.

 

[cstu]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

The key one:4) From THE Iowa State University.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

I think the impression is that a fair amount of OAK's success against the pass this year seemed to be cases where teams felt there was no need to pass because the run was successful enough to stay ahead of the Raider's anemic offense at the time. Seattle really can't run the ball right now, so to get/stay ahead they will have to pass and can probably have enough success doing that to give him a decent day.

 

[ericttspikes]

I think the impression is that a fair amount of OAK's success against the pass this year seemed to be cases where teams felt there was no need to pass because the run was successful enough to stay ahead of the Raider's anemic offense at the time. Seattle really can't run the ball right now, so to get/stay ahead they will have to pass and can probably have enough success doing that to give him a decent day.

Yeah, Mo Morris is TERRIBLE. IF Seattle is going to win this game Wallace will have to do it. I'm still not starting the guy.

 

[Islander]

I think the impression is that a fair amount of OAK's success against the pass this year seemed to be cases where teams felt there was no need to pass because the run was successful enough to stay ahead of the Raider's anemic offense at the time. Seattle really can't run the ball right now, so to get/stay ahead they will have to pass and can probably have enough success doing that to give him a decent day.

Cards and Steelers did not have a need to pass?

 

[H.K.]

I think the impression is that a fair amount of OAK's success against the pass this year seemed to be cases where teams felt there was no need to pass because the run was successful enough to stay ahead of the Raider's anemic offense at the time. Seattle really can't run the ball right now, so to get/stay ahead they will have to pass and can probably have enough success doing that to give him a decent day.

Yeah, Mo Morris is TERRIBLE. IF Seattle is going to win this game Wallace will have to do it. I'm still not starting the guy.

Wallace is FF death this eeek, stay away, stay far, far away! You have been warned!!!!!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

As I said on The Audible - this is his audition for 30 other teams that will all be watching the game.

MNF gives Seneca a national audience to showcase what he can do as a QB. Run, pass, decision-making, poise, leadership, all that will be in Hi-Def across the country.

I think he does well enough to warrant some interest from another club for next year, like a trade of a pick for Wallace.

I don't think he will be flawless - he will turn it over once or twice - but I think 200+ yards and 2 TDs is again very plausible. I also expect him to run a little more and get 40+ rushing.

 

[qimqam]

ScheduleTen at Jax Hou at JaxNYG at Jaxweek 12 = Pennington vs. HOUSeattle's schedule is also nice but I also have Leftwich and think Garrard is a better known commodity at this point. Perhaps I will pay for it. But I like Garrard better the next 2 weeks and Hasselbeck could be back for week 11.

Against the Giants is not a good matchup (Giants let up 42 pts and 5 passing tds in 1 game against Seattle since then they have let up 42 points and 2 passing tds in the last 4 games)Leftwich could be back next week ... Hasselback is out at least 3 weeks

 

[chris1969]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

I agree. Too high. I am starting Alex Smith over him without a second thought.

I agree as well Hasselbeck was supposed to be my bye week fill in for McNabb, but I picked Smith over Wallace as well on waivers.

 

[Kai's Hero]

I'm with you on this one...I just traded him for Garrard and am happy about it. Raiders have the #1 pass D in the league. I can't see this going well.

Oaklands pass defense is overrated. Their ranking is high because everyone runs the ball down their throat. Play Seneca he will put up 19/32/276 with 2 passing TD's and 1 rushing TD.

 

[Bearsfan5434]

I don't think Oakland's pass defense is that overrated.

Take these statistics into account:

They are 7th in the NFL in passer rating against with a 71.54

They are better against the pass in the first half: 63.7 rating against (1st half) vs. 85.2 rating against (2nd half)

They are worse against the run in the first half: 3.8yds/att (1st half) vs. 2.5yds/att (2nd half)

Take into account that they are playing from behind just over 51% percent of the time. They have an offense that is dead last in the NFL.

That said, they're rush defense allows 3.1yds/att.

They have 41 tackles for loss, including 15 sacks.

I like Wallace this week as I will be starting him in my league as well (I also have Huard vs. StL and Plummer vs. Pitt). I like the job that Wallace did last week, althought the int's hurt, he still played well.

Hope this helps someone!

 

[boonesfarm4me]

anyone think Branch may have a decent game with DJ hurting a bit along with no running game?

 

[[scooter]]

Call it the FBGuys Reverse Jinx.

Everytime someone makes one of these posts, they end up getting

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

The key one:4) From THE Iowa State University.

Why would you want to copy one of the worst attempts at pretentiousness on the college landscape?

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

As I said on The Audible - this is his audition for 30 other teams that will all be watching the game.MNF gives Seneca a national audience to showcase what he can do as a QB. Run, pass, decision-making, poise, leadership, all that will be in Hi-Def across the country.I think he does well enough to warrant some interest from another club for next year, like a trade of a pick for Wallace.

What does Hi-def have to do with anything?And this isn't college. If an NFL team has any interest whatsoever, they will watch every play whenever they want. This "national spotlight" thing is meaningless. It's just as easy to say the Oakland defense will play harder than normal because this is their big game, TV-wise.

 

[commisholio]

' date='Nov 4 2006, 03:16 AM' post='5846744']Call it the FBGuys Reverse Jinx.Everytime someone makes one of these posts, they end up getting

This is known as a "Keerock" in honor of the poster who did it first and best.

 

[BoltBacker]

I think the impression is that a fair amount of OAK's success against the pass this year seemed to be cases where teams felt there was no need to pass because the run was successful enough to stay ahead of the Raider's anemic offense at the time. Seattle really can't run the ball right now, so to get/stay ahead they will have to pass and can probably have enough success doing that to give him a decent day.

Cards and Steelers did not have a need to pass?

Steelers didn't pass well?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

As I said on The Audible - this is his audition for 30 other teams that will all be watching the game.MNF gives Seneca a national audience to showcase what he can do as a QB. Run, pass, decision-making, poise, leadership, all that will be in Hi-Def across the country.I think he does well enough to warrant some interest from another club for next year, like a trade of a pick for Wallace.

What does Hi-def have to do with anything?And this isn't college. If an NFL team has any interest whatsoever, they will watch every play whenever they want. This "national spotlight" thing is meaningless. It's just as easy to say the Oakland defense will play harder than normal because this is their big game, TV-wise.

Thanks as always for your poignant insight, Sonny.How's this statline from last week: 15-30-198, 3TDs, 2 Ints, 4-18 rushing. That's against a KC team that was supposedly a tough defense in a tough place to play.Wallace has been waiting for a chance to show everyone what he can do. Now he can. At home. Against Oakland. Everyone watches MNF, including players, in season. There's only so many hours to watch other teams play during the season, as teams gameplan for their next opponent.As for the "National Spotlight" being meaningless, tell that to New Orleans when MNF re-opened the Superdome. I'm sure that had to impact whatsoever.

 

[seahawk 17]

Wallace drops three TD's on KC on the road. what do you think he is going to do in his house?

I'll just post the same thing I posted last week....Seattle can't run, they will have to throw all day.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

Wallace drops three TD's on KC on the road. what do you think he is going to do in his house?I'll just post the same thing I posted last week....Seattle can't run, they will have to throw all day.

Wallce passed for less than 200 yards and two of the TD drives he had started after KC turnovers where he was handed a short field. One of them inside the KC 10. I'm not saying that won't happen this week but I think it's alot to leave to chance that it will happen again this week.

 

[ericttspikes]

Wallace drops three TD's on KC on the road. what do you think he is going to do in his house?I'll just post the same thing I posted last week....Seattle can't run, they will have to throw all day.

I don't disagree with you about having to throw all day. He was behind most of the game last week and had to throw all day only completing 50% of his passes and didn't get over 200 yards, 50 of which came on one play. He may very well light it up at home, but not sure he is a must start as his projections indicate.

 

[TheWick]

ScheduleTen at Jax Hou at JaxNYG at Jaxweek 12 = Pennington vs. HOUSeattle's schedule is also nice but I also have Leftwich and think Garrard is a better known commodity at this point. Perhaps I will pay for it. But I like Garrard better the next 2 weeks and Hasselbeck could be back for week 11.

Against the Giants is not a good matchup (Giants let up 42 pts and 5 passing tds in 1 game against Seattle since then they have let up 42 points and 2 passing tds in the last 4 games)Leftwich could be back next week ... Hasselback is out at least 3 weeks

Thanks for the info on NYG, I was just looking at raw numbers not in depth like you did If Leftwich comes back well then....I'll start him. The rest of my team is strong and I'm looking for a consistent 10-15 points from my QBBC of Leftwich/Garrard and Pennington. I can't take the 25 one week and 3 the next week kind of quaterback....not in a heads up league.

 

[My Hope Street Alias]

Speaking of Seattle's QB situation, when is Hasselbeck expected back? Have there been any updates from the original 2-4 weeks prediction or the "at least 3 weeks" quote from the HC?

 

[H.K.]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

Nothing. I have no idea where they get there projections sometimes and this is one of their worst efforts in the history of the site. Expect 150 yards passing 0 TD and 2 Int and you'll be OK.

 

[phillzphan]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

Nothing. I have no idea where they get there projections sometimes and this is one of their worst efforts in the history of the site. Expect 150 yards passing 0 TD and 2 Int and you'll be OK.

ohhh, i finally figured it out. this is the reason you're not a staff member.

 

[H.K.]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

Nothing. I have no idea where they get there projections sometimes and this is one of their worst efforts in the history of the site. Expect 150 yards passing 0 TD and 2 Int and you'll be OK.

ohhh, i finally figured it out. this is the reason you're not a staff member.

Exactly. I know what I am talking about, therefore I am not on staff. If I were, Wallace would be QB28 on the week.

 

[Sputnikv8]

Looks like he fell off the chart on the Saturday update?

Man.. a line with "why the changes are made" would be VERY helpful.

 

[[scooter]]

IIRC, Wallace was the 3rd QB when Dilfer was still around. I'd say Wallace does well simply because Dilfer is a lucky rabbits foot for QBs. Hasslebeck, Frye, Smith, etc, have all improved at the QB position because of Dilfer. The guy is a hybrid coach/player, he knows his role on a team, and he probably did more for Hasslebeck's development than Holmgren ever did.

Interesting theory, although Chris Redman would disagree.

 

[BlackHole]

IIRC, Wallace was the 3rd QB when Dilfer was still around. I'd say Wallace does well simply because Dilfer is a lucky rabbits foot for QBs. Hasslebeck, Frye, Smith, etc, have all improved at the QB position because of Dilfer. The guy is a hybrid coach/player, he knows his role on a team, and he probably did more for Hasslebeck's development than Holmgren ever did.

So the fact that the weather report is looking to be a higher and higher percentage of rain and foul weather, combined with the absenteeism of Alexander and the fact that the Raiders pass D is #1 in the NFL and has been for the past 5 weeks, Walace should be ranked higher due to Dilfer being on the team?I think Wallace might do better then his Saturday ranking, just due to his ability to run. I could see a rushing TD for him and a passing TD, an interception and 50 yards rushing with 250 yards passing. (1 TD will come due to the Raiders offense giving up the ball inside the 30 and the other against a prevent D when the Raiders are up 13 with around 8 minutes to play) Then I'll throw in the fumble he'll have, 4 sacks and 2nd interception putting Oakland in the endzone or at least red zone. yeah, he might score you 8-15 points in FF, but he'll cost the Hawks the game.

 

[[scooter]]

So the fact that the weather report is looking to be a higher and higher percentage of rain and foul weather, combined with the absenteeism of Alexander and the fact that the Raiders pass D is #1 in the NFL and has been for the past 5 weeks

Part of the reason that the Raiders are #1 vs. the pass is because they're #18 vs. the run. Teams simply don't need to pass against Oakland (they're #32 in passes-against). The Raiders have given up 9 passing TDs (slightly above average) and allowed QBs to complete 60% of passes (slightly below average), while averaging 11 yards per catch (also slightly below average).I think Wallace will do alright Monday night. But I still wouldn't rank him in the top 15.

 

[The Contrarian]

I'll be starting him this week because he has the most upside of between johnson and smith. I'll also add, I'm desperate.

Let's say the Hawks get the lead, the will not be able to run it out with Mo Morris. if they are losing they will have to pass, which may also mean he will run. OF course if they are losing there may be lots of desperation INT's too.

 

[redman]

IIRC, Wallace was the 3rd QB when Dilfer was still around. I'd say Wallace does well simply because Dilfer is a lucky rabbits foot for QBs. Hasslebeck, Frye, Smith, etc, have all improved at the QB position because of Dilfer. The guy is a hybrid coach/player, he knows his role on a team, and he probably did more for Hasslebeck's development than Holmgren ever did.

Hmm, a rookie backup QB versus a veteran backup QB, and you think the rookie must suck because he's behind the veteran. That logic has a pretty obvious flaw, no? BTW, doesn't it also bear mentioning that when it came time to let one of those guys go, they kept Wallace and parted ways with Dilfer?

 

[BlackHole]

' date='Nov 5 2006, 04:30 AM' post='5850180']

So the fact that the weather report is looking to be a higher and higher percentage of rain and foul weather, combined with the absenteeism of Alexander and the fact that the Raiders pass D is #1 in the NFL and has been for the past 5 weeks

Part of the reason that the Raiders are #1 vs. the pass is because they're #18 vs. the run. Teams simply don't need to pass against Oakland (they're #32 in passes-against). The Raiders have given up 9 passing TDs (slightly above average) and allowed QBs to complete 60% of passes (slightly below average), while averaging 11 yards per catch (also slightly below average).I think Wallace will do alright Monday night. But I still wouldn't rank him in the top 15.

Alright is about what I predicted in my post : Don't discount the Raiders D though. We've had this discussion three weeks in a row now and that #18 against the run ranking just keeps getting better and better and the pass against ranking stays the same. As long as the offense doesn't give the ball up inside their own 40 a bunch of times, this D keeps teams under their control."I think Wallace might do better then his Saturday ranking, just due to his ability to run. I could see a rushing TD for him and a passing TD, an interception and 50 yards rushing with 250 yards passing. (1 TD will come due to the Raiders offense giving up the ball inside the 30 and the other against a prevent D when the Raiders are up 13 with around 8 minutes to play) Then I'll throw in the fumble he'll have, 4 sacks and 2nd interception putting Oakland in the endzone or at least red zone. yeah, he might score you 8-15 points in FF, but he'll cost the Hawks the game."

 

[TheWick]

I'm with you on this one...I just traded him for Garrard and am happy about it. Raiders have the #1 pass D in the league. I can't see this going well.

Your happy about that ... You traded the Seahawks QB for the next 3-5 weeks for the Jags QB this week and you like it?

This is my official hindsight 20/20 post. I knew Garrard would get 3 TDs today

 

[mad sweeney]

I have so much faith in him I picked him up to start over Frye (Jake on bye). Both to win the game and put up fantasy numbers. He'll brainfart, but his legs will give him a chance and with Jax and Branch as receivers, Stevens as fall back any QB who has time to throw will do just fine.

Nine points Seneca, nine points.

Oh, and more important, BEAT THE RAIDERS!!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

1) 2nd NFL start2) Oakland has a pretty decent pass D (Wimer ranks as a tough matchup)3) Darrell Jackson is questionableI don't get the ranking on this one. What am I missing?

Nothing. I have no idea where they get there projections sometimes and this is one of their worst efforts in the history of the site. Expect 150 yards passing 0 TD and 2 Int and you'll be OK.

ohhh, i finally figured it out. this is the reason you're not a staff member.

Exactly. I know what I am talking about, therefore I am not on staff. If I were, Wallace would be QB28 on the week.

176 yards, 1TD, 49 more rushing.That's 8.8 + 4 + 4.9 for an FBG score of 17.7.Too bad Jerramy Stevens can't catch, else this wouldn't be close.

 

[chris1969]

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